Crotching on that top rope? That's a DQ. (Superstars Spoilers)

[Xero]

Recap of the main event via PWInsider.

Match Number Four: Matt Hardy versus Kane

They lock up and Kane misses a punch in the corner. Hardy with punches but Kane pushes Hardy into the corner. Hardy with punches to Kane but Kane pushes back into the corner again. Kane misses a charge into the corner and then Hardy drops Kane’s arm into the ropes. Hardy comes off the turnbuckles and hits a double sledge on the shoulder. Hardy works on the arm and shoulder. Kane with a shoulder tackle and a punch in the corner. Kane with a knee to the midsection followed by a snap mare and drop kick. Kane with a slam but he misses an elbow drop. Hardy with forearms and a punch. Hardy with a kick to Kane but Kane charges at Hardy and Hardy drops down and Kane goes over the top rope to the floor. We go to commercial.

We are back and Kane charges into an elbow. Hardy goes to the turnbuckles and he sets for the screaming elbow but Kane grabs Hardy by the throat and Hardy escapes the choke slam. Kane with a big boot to Hardy and Kane with knees to the head. Kane kicks Hardy in the head. Kane with a hard Irish whip. Kane with an elbow drop to the back and then he connects with another one. Kane with an Irish whip and bear hug to Hardy. Kane with a side slam for a near fall. Kane with a bear hug. Hardy with punches to Kane but Kane punches back. Hardy tries for a cross body but Kane catches him. Hardy with a clip and a clothesline into the corner. Hardy tries for the bulldog but Kane pushes him away. Hardy with a bulldog from the turnbuckles for a two count. Hardy with an elbow from the turnbuckles for a near fall. Hardy tries for a side effect and Kane with elbows. Hardy tries for a Twist of Fate but Kane blocks it. Hardy hits a DDT for a near fall. Hardy with punches but the referee pulls Hardy off. Hardy tries for a Twist of Fate but he crotches Matt on the ropes. He does it a second time and the referee calls for the bell.
Winner: Matt Hardy by disqualificiation

[Skippord]

yeah that was weird

[Londoner]

Oh goody, another weird DQ rule.

[Nicky Fives]

by the sounds of the report, the referee was letting one shot go, then must have told him to stop, then he did it again.... I haven't watched Superstars yet but by the sounds of it I can buy it at as DQ, but its still a shitty finish..... If they wanted a DQ finish why didn't they have Kane nail him with a chair or something?

[Jannettyzilla]

I was looking forward to the prospect of Kane beating Hardy down with a chair when I read the spoilers. This brings me a :(

[kareru]

its like back in the transition days of wcw when if you hit your opponent over the top rope to the floor, you get disqualified

[Rammsteinmad]

On "WWW: Superstars," Matt Hardy attempted a nigh-impossible feat: taking out the 7 foot Kane.

Lol, yeah because nobody can beat Kane can they.

[Chavo Classic]

its like back in the transition days of wcw when if you hit your opponent over the top rope to the floor, you get disqualified

That sort of made sense. If the rules were to keep yourself, your opponent and the match in the ring then a DQ if this were to happen would be logically.

However, when wrestlers can be irish whipped into barricades, steel ring steps and posts as well as into turnbuckles inside the ring, why should a crotching on the ropes be any different? It's these discrepancies that are likely to cause confusion and ultimately frustration. At least in the old days of WCW, the audience was aware of the 'over the top' ruling.

[XL]

It's another thing that the WWE can pick up and drop whenever they like. DQs for low blows or closed fists can be let go or called for a DQ if and when they choose to.

Nothing in WWE is canon.

[kareru]

http://jimberkin.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/jasper.jpg
Crotching on that top rope? That's a paddlin'

[ROHFan21]

well I guess technically it could be considered a form of a low blow if done intentionally in the Ref's eyes

[Chavo Classic]

well I guess technically it could be considered a form of a low blow if done intentionally in the Ref's eyes

And ramming an opponent's head into a turnbuckle would technically be the use of a foreign object. Where's the line DAMMIT!

[DaveBrawl]

Being snorted nightly.

[Chavo Classic]

Being snorted nightly.

Naitch?

[Londoner]

WWE's thinking: Tune in next month to find out what new weird DQ rule we have just invented and not told you about! Each month, there will be another new one, truly amazing!

[DAMN iNATOR]

The only things I can think of off the top of my head, why a DQ could've possibly been called for in that situation:

a.) (Note: I don't recall seeing this happen, so take it for whatever it's worth.) It could've been, although, as I said in my disclaimer I don't recall it happening, that the ref, noticing that a helpless wrestler was being attacked while caught up in the ropes, in whatever way, shape, or form, began to administer the 5 count on Kane, and Kane didn't listen, the ref counted to 5 and called the DQ.

b.) I think maybe Kane had had 2 warnings before when he attacked Hardy on the ropes a 3rd time, so maybe it was one of those weird scenarios where the ref can use the 3 strikes and you're disqualified rule.

c.) Maybe the ref equated what Kane was doing to Hardy, in his mind, as the same thing, or tantamount to, a blatant low-blow, so seeing such actions take place right in his vision, maybe the ref though that it would have been an insult to the his intelligence, so he called for a DQ.

[RVDmark]

Kane screwed Kane. :shifty:

[Kami Raki]

What a confusing finish. Sounds Dusty to me.....

[Mr. Nerfect]

It doesn't sound that confusing to me. Crotching an opponent on the ropes is using the ring to low blow a guy. Pulling your opponent by the legs crotch-first into the ring post is something that I always envisioned as illegal. When someone is on the top rope, and they get knocked down, it's not really "intentional" (like how people used to counter the Bronco Buster by getting their feet up, and X-Pac's crotch would go into it, and not vice versa).

The rules have relaxed a little bit, but low blows are sort of meant to be illegal. If Kane continuously attacked Hardy's crotch by using the ropes, I can imagine that being a DQ.

[Cool King]

9:10, if anyone want's to see it.

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[Evil Vito]

http://jimberkin.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/jasper.jpg
Crotching on that top rope? That's a paddlin'

:lol::y:

[Evil Vito]

It doesn't sound that confusing to me. Crotching an opponent on the ropes is using the ring to low blow a guy. Pulling your opponent by the legs crotch-first into the ring post is something that I always envisioned as illegal. When someone is on the top rope, and they get knocked down, it's not really "intentional" (like how people used to counter the Bronco Buster by getting their feet up, and X-Pac's crotch would go into it, and not vice versa).

The rules have relaxed a little bit, but low blows are sort of meant to be illegal. If Kane continuously attacked Hardy's crotch by using the ropes, I can imagine that being a DQ.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, given that it happened twice I don't see too much of a problem with it. If it only happened once though I probably would have thought WTF.</font>

[Droford]

So when a face gets a heel straddled on the top ropes and goes and shakes the top rope up and down, that should be a DQ now right?

[Gerard]

Its the same when someone interferes in a match, few years back whoever was interfering had to actually hit a wrestler for the dq, if the wrestler hit the intefering party theen the match just went on. These days someone just entering the ring constitutes a dq.

[XL]

Until the next time someone enters and there isn't a DQ.

Nothing is canon in WWE.

[Verbose Minch]

If Kane continuously attacked Hardy's crotch by using the ropes, I can imagine that being a DQ.

I don't know, but I laughed really hard at the thought of Kane attacking Hardy's crotch.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So when a face gets a heel straddled on the top ropes and goes and shakes the top rope up and down, that should be a DQ now right?

Not neccessarily. It's not directly attacking the crotch region. I've noticed that when you use a steel chair for example, you can get away with not being DQ'd if you send your opponent into the chair, and not vice versa. It's sort of inversed with the ropes. If you deliberately launch your opponent's crotch into them repeatedly then it's a DQ -- but if they are crotched and then you move the ropes -- you're not actually touching them, so it's their business to deal with.

The ropes aren't foreign objects. They're part of the ring, and although they aren't "legal," they aren't "foreign." You can use the ropes within reason to punish your opponent if you are smart about it.

[Afterlife]

Looks pretty obvious to me why it was a DQ.