Wow, The Sopranos is seriously the best show ever (RIGHT NOW)

[Triple A]

Holy shit, just saw last night's episode. Wow. It's officially my favorite show right now. Incredible. This entire season has been ****ing amazing. Like every episode has given me chills and has made me like completely mark out. aodfsuiasodfuisadofpadsopfuasopi

[Jon Kano]

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Good to hear man.

Im waiting for Channel 4 in UK to sort their lives out and get season 5 on my TV.

I been watching the teasers and readin the previews on the website, other than that I don't know much.

A mate of mine in the states said that Buscemi is not lookin as good as he could, maybe because we both assumed he would play someone like Mr Pink or Mr Ssssh (TTDIDBYD).

[John la Rock]

Sopranos is awesome :y:

Too bad I never watch it :(

[The Miz]

my mom got me the first season like a week ago, it it pretty gangstaaaaa.

i wanna see the ones with steve buscemi though. :(

[Boondock Saint]

My school doesn't get HBO. So all I've seen is the first episode this season since I was home for it. It was ok. But I'm prolly going to On Demand all the ones I missed this weekend when I go home. I heard this past week's was better than the Pine Barrens episode from season 3, which kicked ass.

[Triple A]

If you don't get HBO, download those shits off IRC.

Every new episode is on IRC the next day it airs. I got Sunday's episode last night cause I missed it on TV.

www.packetnews.com

[Kristanna Vola]

Holy shit, just saw last night's episode. Wow. It's officially my favorite show right now. Incredible. This entire season has been ****ing amazing. Like every episode has given me chills and has made me like completely mark out. aodfsuiasodfuisadofpadsopfuasopi

:p I could have told you that years ago Triple A. For real though it's awesome. After season 4 (which was medicore IMO) season 5 has put the show back on the mark :y:

[Boondock Saint]

Yeah, I was disappointed with Season 4.

[Triple A]

:p I could have told you that years ago Triple A. For real though it's awesome. After season 4 (which was medicore IMO) season 5 has put the show back on the mark :y:
I have already known how much it ruled, asshole.

I am just reaffirming my love.

[MoRcHeEbA]

1st,2nd,3rd seasons' were amazing but 4th lacked... this season is being the man so far though :D

[Triple A]

The 4th season was amazing too. All of you STFU.

[MoRcHeEbA]

nothing special happend, and I wanted to knife that adriana chick all season :mad:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Is this show still on in Australia? I'm pretty sure FOX8 will pick it up soon, but I know it was one sometime, but I'm not sure about now.

[Jon Kano]

I ****ing hate it when people say they hate season 4. Each numnut has their reason, but fa fux sake, each season looks at the saga in a different perspective. David Chase openly stated Season 4 revolved around Tony and Carmela, and with that, you have to expect more focus on the home life. But it was as good nonetheless.

I think all the seasons are as good as eachother. Episodes are a different story.

[The CyNick]

I ****ing hate it when people say they hate season 4. Each numnut has their reason, but fa fux sake, each season looks at the saga in a different perspective. David Chase openly stated Season 4 revolved around Tony and Carmela, and with that, you have to expect more focus on the home life. But it was as good nonetheless.

I think all the seasons are as good as eachother. Episodes are a different story.

No need to get defensive.

I like the Sopranos as much as anyone (although 24 still rules all...FOX Tues 9PM), but if I were to rank the seasons, #4 would be last by far.

Sure they may have deliberately focused on Tony and Carm, but it still sucked. Most of the episodes were boring, and they lacked that excitement that made Sopranos a hit. I mean the show is about a Mob Boss and his two families, we expect his home life to be boring, but when his mob life is more boring than his home life something is wrong. As entertaining as crying over a horse can be, for some reason it just didn't hit home with me like some of the early stuff.

Even this season I felt started off really slow, the first episode was IMO one of the worst of all time. However, as the season has went on its got better. I still dont think they have been able to match their peak early in the series, but the last couple of episodes have been entertaining.

[Ninti the Mad]

If you say so.

[Sephiroth]

The Sopranos rule, i really like them also because i am half Italian :D

[Jon Kano]

See Cynick, you have just proved my point really. Most people say the 4th sucked because it lacked what the formers had or the show was full of blaaa bllla blla whatever you just said.....

...but the fact is, the show is not about a mob boss. In the scriptbook and in a lot of interviews, Chase goes over the fact that first and foremost the show is not about a mob boss, its about a family man who works in O.G. Infact the show was going to be called 'Family Man'.

[The CyNick]

See Cynick, you have just proved my point really. Most people say the 4th sucked because it lacked what the formers had or the show was full of blaaa bllla blla whatever you just said.....

...but the fact is, the show is not about a mob boss. In the scriptbook and in a lot of interviews, Chase goes over the fact that first and foremost the show is not about a mob boss, its about a family man who works in O.G. Infact the show was going to be called 'Family Man'.

But if they called it Family Man it would still be about a man dealing with the two sides of his life, organized crime and his real family. Which is exactly what I said.

The point is when the show first got popular it was because you felt like you couldn't miss an episode. They still managed to tell the story of Tony's battle dealing with both sides of his life (ie in the episode where he takes Medow to Colleges) while at the same time having tons of action. Also, I think if you talk to most people they will say they enjoy the 'mob' aspects of the show over the marital issues between Tony and Carm. Granted thats a big part of the overall story, but if you dont have the action, the killings, the drug deals, the renegade gangsters, you have a show that should be on the We network instead of HBO.

Last season had nothing that I would call exciting. The Cramela/Furio story didn't ever peak with an affair (another letdown), Tony bought a horse (I was on the edge of my seat for that one), Chris goes to rehab (although that did make for a funny episode), Paulie got a painting touched up (feel the drama!), The guys spent an entire episode talking about Columbus, I mean it was a boring season. It was a season that seemed to set up a lot of the stuff that is going on this season. Which is fine from a stroytelling POV, but it still made for a boring season. I cant see how anyone can honestly say Season 4 was anywhere as good as 1 or 2. Its like saying Goldfather III was "just as good as the first two", which would be a horrible lie.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Wow. I watched this show last night and all I can say is, wow. The acting was great, and although it was slower than a lot of shows, it kept me hooked. Arena showed the episode "House Arrest" of Season 2 last night, so I dunno if it was an up or down of the series, but it was great anyway.

[Jon Kano]

But if they called it Family Man it would still be about a man dealing with the two sides of his life, organized crime and his real family. Which is exactly what I said.

The point is when the show first got popular it was because you felt like you couldn't miss an episode. They still managed to tell the story of Tony's battle dealing with both sides of his life (ie in the episode where he takes Medow to Colleges) while at the same time having tons of action. Also, I think if you talk to most people they will say they enjoy the 'mob' aspects of the show over the marital issues between Tony and Carm. Granted thats a big part of the overall story, but if you dont have the action, the killings, the drug deals, the renegade gangsters, you have a show that should be on the We network instead of HBO.

Last season had nothing that I would call exciting. The Cramela/Furio story didn't ever peak with an affair (another letdown), Tony bought a horse (I was on the edge of my seat for that one), Chris goes to rehab (although that did make for a funny episode), Paulie got a painting touched up (feel the drama!), The guys spent an entire episode talking about Columbus, I mean it was a boring season. It was a season that seemed to set up a lot of the stuff that is going on this season. Which is fine from a stroytelling POV, but it still made for a boring season. I cant see how anyone can honestly say Season 4 was anywhere as good as 1 or 2. Its like saying Goldfather III was "just as good as the first two", which would be a horrible lie.

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Your still missing the point.

Its easy to say what your saying, and I know what your saying. But each season has a specific focus. They are all in my script book. Basically, 1 = Tony and his crew 2 = Tony and his Children 3 = Tony and his mother/shrink 4 = Tony and his marriage.

Like you said, In the earlier episodes we could see Tony dealing with his family life (taking meadow to college) and his criminal side…which you liked. But as for the bits you claim were boring…. Don’t you see that even those examples fit right into the whole saga and relate directly to the other side of his life?

The Carmela/Furio story didn't ever peak with an affair (another letdown) = An advantage over films, you can pan out a story.

Tony bought a horse (I was on the edge of my seat for that one) = A factor that distanced himself from his wife (financially) and his crew (emotionally), while making himself actually feel better. It also lead onto another affair, the death of Ralphie and more money.

Paulie got a painting touched up (feel the drama!) = Can go either way. Tony is his boss. How will Tony react if he sees that painting of him as Napoleon?

The guys spent an entire episode talking about Columbus. = The Columbus episode lead onto the deals with the Native Americans, when Furio was about to try and push Tony into the chopper blades etc

I can’t see how anyone can honestly say Season 4 was anywhere as good as 1 or 2. Its like saying Godfather III was "just as good as the first two", which would be a horrible lie. = Well, I cant see how you can say it was boring. I guess at the end of the day, its all down to personal preference.

[The CyNick]

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Your still missing the point.

Its easy to say what your saying, and I know what your saying. But each season has a specific focus. They are all in my script book. Basically, 1 = Tony and his crew 2 = Tony and his Children 3 = Tony and his mother/shrink 4 = Tony and his marriage.

Like you said, In the earlier episodes we could see Tony dealing with his family life (taking meadow to college) and his criminal side…which you liked. But as for the bits you claim were boring…. Don’t you see that even those examples fit right into the whole saga and relate directly to the other side of his life?

The Carmela/Furio story didn't ever peak with an affair (another letdown) = An advantage over films, you can pan out a story.

Tony bought a horse (I was on the edge of my seat for that one) = A factor that distanced himself from his wife (financially) and his crew (emotionally), while making himself actually feel better. It also lead onto another affair, the death of Ralphie and more money.

Paulie got a painting touched up (feel the drama!) = Can go either way. Tony is his boss. How will Tony react if he sees that painting of him as Napoleon?

The guys spent an entire episode talking about Columbus. = The Columbus episode lead onto the deals with the Native Americans, when Furio was about to try and push Tony into the chopper blades etc

I can’t see how anyone can honestly say Season 4 was anywhere as good as 1 or 2. Its like saying Godfather III was "just as good as the first two", which would be a horrible lie. = Well, I cant see how you can say it was boring. I guess at the end of the day, its all down to personal preference.

But I'll say again, its not that it was bad storytelling, they are great at that.

However, most people who have followed the series from the beginning (like myself) would say that Season 4 was boring, not bad, just boiring/dull/unexciting, whatever term you want to use.

You're right its all personal prefernce, but all I can say is that for myself if I would have started to watch Sopranos last season I wouldn't have been hooked. There was too much bitching, not enough action and generally boring plots. The stpory all ties in nicely, and like I said makes sense, but the action that made the show is long gone, which kinda sucks.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

CyNick, you need to stop watching wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I agree with CyNick. Season 4 wasn't out of place of the show, just a change of pace. The story was more focused on the psychology of a marriage from my understanding, and that's usually something that is tied into the background of a story. It was very daring to take this out into the foreground of a show.

Take The Simpsons for example. Homer and Marge's marriage is always going through tough times, but it never seems to be the focus of an entire season. Most people would also agree that the new seasons have faced a MAJOR change of pace. Homer isn't as stupid as he used to be, the characters are predictable (not in a good way), and they seem to be trying too hard. One of the best things about The Simpsons was that it never used to try and be funny. The writers/Matt Groening had the talent to really just write it in. Personally I think they need to either hire new writers (bring back Conan), or just take a deep breath, sit down in front of a TV, and watch the episodes that are loved by all, and use the basic ingredients in that to script an uprise in the show's progress.

But anyway, The Sopranos changed their line quite dramtically from what I've learned, intentionally too. They were brave and stood out and did something different, I commend them on that. They didn't just change the plotline of the season either, they kept on going and delivered something different, yet entertaining. Other people might have seen it as the show's death, but it kept going and produced Season 5. I think if you looked at it in a line, and compared, you'd have four really, really good seasons (about as good as they get), which everyone liked, and a unique one. This unique one might possibly be seen as the weaker of the the series.

[Boondock Saint]

Went home for Easter this weekend. Used On Demand to watch all the Sopranos episodes I've missed this season since the premiere. Good stuff. Episode 57, with the game of telephone about Adiranna was a damn good episode.

Now I must wait until school ends next month to see the rest :-\