Better Wrestler #94

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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Bret "The Hitman" Hart


VS


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Triple H



3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option></select>

[Supreme Olajuwon]

God, here we fucking go.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also, dunno what kind of incentive this will offer, but rep for anyone who gives a plausible reason for voting the way they did. "Bret sux" and "Hunter sux" will not suffice.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I can't believe I'm actually saying this... but my nod goes to Hunter...

Bret was a phenomenal technician and told the story of wrestling better than anyone not named Shawn Michaels BUT, Triple H is more of a complete package. He can cut a promo better, rather he's a heel or a face. And I think the parallels of what Hunter is to the business now, and to what Bret was to the business then are very similar.

Hunter is the guy who has carried the company through a rough patch, much in the way Bret did it in 93-94, only Hunter has done it not only in the ring, but as a writer, a promo, and a wrestler. So shockingly, I'm sticking with Hunter.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Similar to what HBK2K said. Hunter is more of an all round competitor.

Plus I'm a HHH mark so meh.

[Juan]

I'm no HHH hater, but there is no way he even comes close to how how good a technical wrestler Bret was and miles ahead in ring psychology.

[HeartBreakMan2k]

I'd disagree with the psychology quip. I think Hunter slow builds up to the finish a little more than he should but the man knows how to put a match together and pace it. And while Bret is a better technical wrestler I think Hunter is more versatile in terms of specialty matches (Hunters ladder match being the better of the two for example) and I think Hunter is miles ahead in terms of promo work.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Triple H has all the components you look for in a great wrestler. He's got the look, the mic skills, the charisma, the dedication, and he's good in the ring. His feuds with Mick Foley and the Rock rate as two of my all time favorites. As far as the look, mic skills, and charisma go I'd say Triple H has a pretty big edge on Bret.

BUT, you cannot discount Bret's ability in the ring. Well, maybe you can but I can't. And I won't.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Basically I'm using the same reasoning as HBM2k, yet coming to the opposite conclusion.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Bret for being miles ahead of HHH in the ring, for telling a story better than him and it's not even close, for cutting much more realistic promos that made you sense the feud was bigger than it was.

Bret also was a much better company man, even while main eventing he was the guy that would go out of his way to help the curtian jerkers, simply so the companies roster looked stronger.

Most guys will say Bret gave them their best matches ever, and well the greatest feuds in wwe history sway towards the Hitmans side.

HHH is mediocre in every category...there is nothing about him that stands out, and I think that's where his problem lies. HHH may be the most average wrestler to ever have as much success as he has gotten, but we know a big reason for that is because of who he's with.

Bret Hart is simply better.

[Nicky Fives]

"The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be"

[Emperor Smeat]

Bret Hart. His match with Stone Cold that led to Stone Cold not tapping out to the sharpshooter but passing out from the pain ended up being influential in the rise of Stone Cold.

What hurts Triple H is the beginning of the Brand Split where he ruled RAW and squashed everyone for a good 2-3 years. Also around same time no other big heel was developed equal to Triple H. To be fair, his time as leader of DX after HBK was a great time.

[The Gold Standard]

Bret Hart.

He is going to cruise to the Hall of Fame round where it will be Bret v Shawn and all the talk will start again

[The Gold Standard]

"The best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be"

[Anybody Thrilla]

Easy vote for Bret from me here. I don't hate Triple H or anything, but I really can't think of many Triple H matches where I was really impressed with him. Pretty overrated, in my opinion. There was the ladder match with The Rock, the career match with Foley...but that's about it. I enjoyed his Wrestlemania matches with Cena just for their hype. Same with his Batista Wrestlemania match....and maybe even the streetfight on Shawn Michaels return...but that catalogue pales in comparison to Bret's.

Bret/Shawn (Iron Man), Bret/Bulldog (SummerSlam), Bret/Perfect (SummerSlam), Bret/Austin (Wrestlemania OR Survivor Series), Bret/Owen (any time they wrestled), Bret/Piper (Wrestlemania)....Hart's resume just looks so much better on paper. And yes, I'm just a pretty big Bret Hart mark. Easy vote for me.

[AJHayes]

I certainly don't dislike HHH, but, I've got to go with Hart on this one. There is just no way that Hunter is in the same league as Bret. HHH is great, but Bret Hart is excellent (/promo)

[Lock Jaw]

Hmmm. This is a hard one for me. That's what she said.

Overall... I think I'm going to have to go with Bret. Bret stood out to me over his whole career. Triple H has only had periods of Awesome, mixed with periods of simply above average, mixed with some staleness.

[Theo Dious]

Hunter lives and breathes wrestling and has done so since he first became involved in the business. Bret was born into the business and just one viewing of his DVD will tell you how many times he almost quit because he wasn't getting what he wanted out of it, but decided not to because someone gave him what he wanted. Additionally, while both of them have had periods of phoning it in, HHH definitely is definitely much better at his worst.

[Jannettyzilla]

As much as I hate HHH, I have to give him credit for being strong on the mic and good enough in the ring to have stayed strong this long.

But Helmsley's matches on the biggest stages have never been near as memorable as Hart's, and that's the deciding factor for me.

[Ruien]

Bret Hart, but a tad. I wanted his sun glasses so bad as a kid.

Bret gave 1-2-3 Kid a great match, making 1-2-3 come off as a legit competitor while losing. If you can have someone lose and make them look great, you are special.

[CSL]

Fantastic match, one of the best, if not the best RAW match ever.

[Tazz Dan]

Bret is purely one of the greatest wrestlers ever. If both these guys were able to wrestle in their prime I have no doubt Bret would put HHH to shame.

That easy.

[Tazz Dan]

Also, WM13. :y:

[Tazz Dan]

And 12. :y: :y:

[El Fangel]

HHH is still around, for that sole fact that he isnt like Bret Hart and got with the bosses daughter is cause for my vote.

[CSL]

In relation to the first part of that, you know Bret is 12 years older than Triple H right?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

That's without question the most retarded reasoning I've ever heard ever.

[El Fangel]

I meant that in reference that HHH didnt leave to go join the rival company. Anyways, take it as you will, I think Bret is a bitch and HHH along with a few others got the company to where it is today.

[Skippord]

gonna go with Bret

because I like him better.

[muffalufagus]

I never thought I'd be able to vote against Bret Hart, but I did in this case. Triple H is just a better all around package than Bret. Granted, I feel Bret is a better technician than Triple H, but Triple H for a while there was THE MAN in the biz. The McMahon-Helmsley era anyone ?

[The Mackem]

Close one for me and when I tried to put my thoughts together, I seemed to be praising HHH more than Bret Hart so maybe I voted wrong :o

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I meant that in reference that HHH didnt leave to go join the rival company. Anyways, take it as you will, I think Bret is a bitch and HHH along with a few others got the company to where it is today.
This isn't better WWF wrestler. And even if it was, Triple H wrestled in WCW.

[El Fangel]

This isn't better WWF wrestler. And even if it was, Triple H wrestled in WCW.

HHH didnt jump to WCW

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So? I fail to see how Bret leaving a company has any bearing on his abilities as a wrestler. So I guess Savage, Flair, Piper, Dibiase, Hennig, Rude, Hall, Nash are all disqualified for jumping to WCW too right?

[Rammsteinmad]

Bret Hart. Easiest poll ever.

I can't stand HHH. Over the last ten years he hasn't done anything new or exciting. He's been using the same moves, wearing the same attires, and generally rehashing storylines over and over again.

Plus we all know he is so far up Vince's ass that he pretty much runs the company and always end up getting his way. When was the last time Triple H had a feud where he didn't get the final victory?

[El Fangel]

So? I fail to see how Bret leaving a company has any bearing on his abilities as a wrestler. So I guess Savage, Flair, Piper, Dibiase, Hennig, Rude, Hall, Nash are all disqualified for jumping to WCW too right?

So now you pulling the strawman out. Nice.

I dont like the fact that any of them jumped to WCW, I just dont like Bret Hart more because of that.

[The Mackem]

What an interesting set of developments in this argument. Bret really didn't have much choice though, did he? If your contract isn't getting renewed you aren't just going to hang around and wrestle for free.

[Calamondin]

HHH is good, but Hart is excellent.

The only thing HHH really has on Hart are his mic skills. And even then he usually shoots himself in the foot by being incredibly long winded. 02 - 04 were usually marked with a boring 20 minute HHH promo to start RAW.

However, there's no comparison in the ring. Bret Hart could wrestle a broomstick and make it look good, while HHH's match quality is highly dependent on his opponent. He has great matches with great wrestlers, and shit matches with average wrestlers.

[Zen v.W.o.]

HHH didnt jump to WCW

Neither did Bret.

[The Jayman]

My vote goes to HHH. He is an all around better competitor. His ring skills, mic skills, his presence make him one of the best in the business. There is no doubt Bret is one of if not the greatest techincal wrestlers of all time. My vote was strictly from a professional standpoint. HHH and Hart's personal lives had no influence. I don't care if Hart jumped ship nor do I care if HHH married the boss's daughter.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

So now you pulling the strawman out. Nice.

I dont like the fact that any of them jumped to WCW, I just dont like Bret Hart more because of that.


Vince told Bret to take WCW's offer because he couldn't afford to keep Bret around anymore. What exactly about that upsets you?

[Nark Order]

From what I understand, we're allowed to base our criteria on just about anything. That's what we've all been told in the past. It doesn't even need to be on who's the 'Better Wrestler'. I, and many others can't stand Bret for Montreal, I say that's fine criteria in itself. I won't go into any more details or it will cause some massive shitstorm.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

You are allowed to vote any way you want. No one's debating that.

[Testicle]

HHH

I think that their respecitve careers are in some ways very similar in that they 'carried' the WWF/WWE in their down times (early 90s for bret, early 2000s for HHH). Both are solid in the ring with an edge to the hitman. Where HHH gets the vote for me is his work in the attitude era in his fueds with Foley, Rock and Austin. All of which were well done and handled properly by HHH. Also HHH actually has some charisma something Hart can never claim.

[Phenomenal 1]

HHH because Hart never wanted to go over or attempt to go over as heel in WWE, he resisted it...Triple H has always at least been a guy you can depend on to be getting heat as a heel or drawing momentum as a face....tough call cause Hart is essentially the better wrestler, but I think ratings whys, HHH is the better draw because he is a better Entertainer...

[Sixx]

Hunter.

Hart was an excellent technical performer, but in all seriousness, whenever he cut a promo I thought he was struggling with each and every word. It kind of ruined every threat or whatever he was trying to say.

Hunter on the other hand, yeah, well he might be not that great in the ring but I enjoy his matches. Not that much anymore maybe, since his sledgehammer attacks are pure shit to me, but still. Besides, I love him on the mic. He's great as a heel and as cheesy as he is as a "funny face" he cracks me up sometimes.

Another thing is that I started watching wrestling around 1997 when the Attitude era started for WWF and Bret went to WCW which was slowly going downhill. Triple H back then was awesome, and Bret just like pretty much everyone in WCW started to look like a clown for me. Sure, I've seen older matches on youtube and all, but it's not the same as the memories of watching it as a kid.

[Ermaximus]

Bret soley because he would seem a more plausable choice for a better mat wrestler due to his upbringing in the dungeon. Granted I'm not a huge fan of Bret, he was still damn good at what he did.His fued with Owen was simply amazing stuff IMO so I based my choice off of that.

As for HHH, I see him more so as a mic king as his promos would blow away those of Hart, but we are voting based on wrestling skill, not mic skill. Hence another reason why Bret got the edge from me. Now if it had been Bret vs Lance Storm, that would've been a completely different case.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Triple H isn't THAT great on the mic.

[Ermaximus]

Triple H isn't THAT great on the mic.

Compared to Bret though... I mean if we were doing a poll about who has the best mic skills, Jericho, The Rock, and Santino would be the only 3 in the HOF.

[Jannettyzilla]

I mean if we were doing a poll about who has the best mic skills, Jericho and Santino would be the only 2 in the HOF.Someone does not smell what you're cookin....

[Ermaximus]

Someone does not smell what you're cookin....

Fixed. I'm having a bad day.

[Zen v.W.o.]

Triple H isn't THAT great on the mic.

In fact, Bret cut better promos than HHH ever did back in 97 alone. With Bret, he didnt have to be all flashy or boisterous on the mic...when he spoke, people listened because he had a great knack at making it seem like whatever he had to say was important. He made his storylines look legit, and that in itself takes great talent. That's why he's underrated on the mic.

HHH will cut this 10 minute long...and I mean long winded promo that he could have easily just narrowed down to 3 minutes, because he really doesnt give you much more than that.

Besides that fact, HHH has another negative. All the greats are able to carry their opponents from time to time. HHH can look damn good when in the ring and working with a guy better than he is. But match him up with someone at his level or worse, and you see it...HHH cant do what the greats like Hart, HBK and others can.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Bret made El Dandy a main eventer with one sentence.

[DaveBrawl]

Triple H isn't THAT great on the mic.

Easy vote for Bret from me here. I don't hate Triple H or anything, but I really can't think of many Triple H matches where I was really impressed with him. Pretty overrated, in my opinion. There was the ladder match with The Rock, the career match with Foley...but that's about it. I enjoyed his Wrestlemania matches with Cena just for their hype. Same with his Batista Wrestlemania match....and maybe even the streetfight on Shawn Michaels return...but that catalogue pales in comparison to Bret's.

Bret/Shawn (Iron Man), Bret/Bulldog (SummerSlam), Bret/Perfect (SummerSlam), Bret/Austin (Wrestlemania OR Survivor Series), Bret/Owen (any time they wrestled), Bret/Piper (Wrestlemania)....Hart's resume just looks so much better on paper. And yes, I'm just a pretty big Bret Hart mark. Easy vote for me.


Thrilla took the words out of my mouth.

[Skippord]

Compared to Bret though... I mean if we were doing a poll about who has the best mic skills, Jericho, The Rock, and Santino would be the only 3 in the HOF.
Santino?

really?

[CWK]

Bret, easily

[CWK]

Compared to Bret though... I mean if we were doing a poll about who has the best mic skills, Jericho, The Rock, and Santino would be the only 3 in the HOF.

Ok, they are good, but you are way off with that one.

I would throw in....... Bobby Heenan, Arn Anderson, Roddy Piper, Ric Flair, and Dusty Rhodes just to name a few as HOF'ers in the mic skills department

[CWK]

Triple H isn't THAT great on the mic.

I would agree with you on that, but you can't deny Triple H's ability to react spontaneously off the script in the heat of the moment such as a crowd reaction, or a crowd chanting about another wrestler.

A key example would be before WM14 during the fanfest in Boston and a fan threw a battery toward the ring and it hit Shawn Michaels in the face and he just walked out of the ring and left Triple H and Chyna there alone during the promo. Triple H just picked up the mic and started coming up with misc. stuff to antagonize the crowd. Thats his best talent on the mic work.

[Indifferent Clox]

Triple H. He has gone through many transformations, is still at the top of his game. no pun intended. This was very fucking close. I kind of voted for the underdog though.

[The Mackem]

I thought Bret was great on the mic.

[Ermaximus]

Ok, they are good, but you are way off with that one.

I would throw in....... Bobby Heenan, Arn Anderson, Roddy Piper, Ric Flair, and Dusty Rhodes just to name a few as HOF'ers in the mic skills department

Perhaps we have a new poll on our hands?

[Sixx]

Santino would be in the HOF of mic skills? Don't you think that's a bit of an overstatement?

[Ermaximus]

Santino would be in the HOF of mic skills? Don't you think that's a bit of an overstatement?

Yes and no, but that's just me. I'll let the TPWW nation decide who is better.

[Sixx]

Well, ok, opinion is an opinion.

I myself don't think that doing a funny accent and raping the english language is enough to be considered great on the mic.

[Ermaximus]

Well, ok, opinion is an opinion.

I myself don't think that doing a funny accent and raping the english language is enough to be considered great on the mic.
Fair enough.

[Nicky Fives]

In fact, Bret cut better promos than HHH ever did back in 97 alone. With Bret, he didnt have to be all flashy or boisterous on the mic...when he spoke, people listened because he had a great knack at making it seem like whatever he had to say was important. He made his storylines look legit, and that in itself takes great talent. That's why he's underrated on the mic.

HHH will cut this 10 minute long...and I mean long winded promo that he could have easily just narrowed down to 3 minutes, because he really doesnt give you much more than that.

Besides that fact, HHH has another negative. All the greats are able to carry their opponents from time to time. HHH can look damn good when in the ring and working with a guy better than he is. But match him up with someone at his level or worse, and you see it...HHH cant do what the greats like Hart, HBK and others can.

Right on the nose, my fellow Habs-loving friend.....lol

[Tazz Dan]

I am still yet to see my green dot Supreme. :mad:

[Tazz Dan]

:D

[The F.B.I.]

I am going to go with Triple H....for the reasons that Triple H was able to adapt to the ever changing world of professional wrestling in the mid to late 90's and was able to transcend his career and develop into a character that could be sustained over a longer period of time. Triple H can't be called the best wrestler or the best worker, but he has what I would like to think is a distinctive package. He can call and carry a match, he can work the mic, he can feel and anticipate his opponent, and he develops his character into the storylines in ways that fans could capture it and either love him or hate him.

To me Bret didn't have that total package....I don't think he was bad on the mic, but he wasn't the greatest ever on the mic....He cut mediocre promos in my opinon and left quite a bit to be said when trying to tell a story. Bret's character also wasn't sustainable over the years and became cut and dry after so much time....that is why he got booed at WM 13 and Austin got over even though Hart won the match. Hart was technically sound and by far was the better wrestler but I think HHH could tell a better story. When Bret's gimmick went stale, they tried to turn him heel and it had great potential but I don't think he knew how to work it right. Thus it left alot to be said and a sour taste in his mouth.

Bret's lasting legacy wasn't exactly also wasn't most people want to remember him for either....which is being in WCW at a time when the management of that company couldn't manage a port-a-john let alone a talent roster of 90 plus wrestlers.

I think Bret spent way too much time crying over spilled milk between losing his big deal with WWE, having to go WCW when he didn't want to and the whole Montreal Screwjob. Instead of letting things go after a number of years, he still had to carry a grudge and carry it on his shoulders like he was the only one who got screwed out of the deal. Instead where he could have said it was bad business on both parts and that both side being him and the WWE could have done things better, he could have been more receptive to something like a draw finish or getting wrote off camera via lifetime suspension or something instead of raising eyebrows about how he shouldn't have had to lose the Belt in Canada.

This is kind a mismatch of Talent....

Hart goes over as a great champion, great worker, one of the best pure wrestlers of all time...but the whining and crying over Montreal even 10 years after it happened got old after 3 years....

HHH not the greatest worker....but has a hard time putting guys over himself and making them look good, and he'll always be marred by the fact that the boss's daughter is his wife...

I give the nod to HHH in the end for having a more complete and well rounded package as far as his career goes.

[The F.B.I.]

Supreme got pos rep from me just for making an El Dandy Reference

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If this was best sports-entertainer I would go for Triple H. He is a great on the mic, and is one of the most vicious heels of all time. Maybe he was too vicious and over the top but hell it was pretty good except for who they chose to end the streak (Boretista.) Though that made Boretista, and he's been riding on that for close to five years.

Triple H's star making ability is better then Bret's in my opinion but that might just have to do with more television shows and the internet.

Bret Hart is the better wrestler. Triple H is the better sports entertainer.

[Loose Cannon]

blah blah blah blah Bret Hart