View Full Version : Hulk Hogan to sign with TNA
BigDaddyCool
10-27-2009, 02:27 PM
Whoopty shit.
kareru
10-27-2009, 02:35 PM
this is good, cus russo said he would fuck off if hogan signed
thecc
10-27-2009, 02:37 PM
Just as things were starting to turn around.
kareru
10-27-2009, 02:38 PM
just curious, what are your sources ?
just curious, what are your sources ?
My sources are me being right every single time I post shit like this.
When you read the newspaper, do you call or email the writers and ask for their sources on scoops?
BigDaddyCool
10-27-2009, 02:47 PM
just curious, what are your sources ?
you dumb mother fucker, you gave me pos reps. hahahaha fuck you.
weather vane
10-27-2009, 02:47 PM
I'm not saying you are wrong because your track record is great but ... lol @ that post.
kareru
10-27-2009, 02:48 PM
breaking news:
during Monday night raw gail kim collapsed and died later on in hospital police are treating this as foul play on account of hornswoggle was seen looking suspicious hanging outside of the divas locker room, hornswoggle has since been arrested and released on police bail.
Dixie Carter just announced it.
What were you saying Kareru?
kareru
10-27-2009, 02:51 PM
Dixie Carter just announced it.
What were you saying Kareru?
i didn't say you were wrong i just wondered where i got it from
The Jayman
10-27-2009, 02:52 PM
I was really starting to enjoy TNA
weather vane
10-27-2009, 02:53 PM
lol Rob
Johnny Defensive
RIP TNA...you showed slight hints of promise here and there...it was an alright run.
lol Rob
Johnny Defensive
You tell me, should I start posting people's phone numbers and email addresses just to please some trolls?
kareru
10-27-2009, 02:59 PM
now bischoff
TNA President Dixie Carter and several top flight TNA officials are at Hulk Hogan’s press conference in New York City at Madison Square Garden right now.
The former WCW and WWF champion has inked a deal to join TNA with former WCW Vice President Eric Bischoff joining him in the company as well.
Obviously, this is going to be the start of major changes for the organization.
We’ll have more on this breaking story shortly.
BigDaddyCool
10-27-2009, 03:01 PM
Do I smell an nWo reunion?
kareru
10-27-2009, 03:01 PM
wtf is going on?
BigDaddyCool
10-27-2009, 03:02 PM
Obviously, this is going to be the start of major changes for the organization.
Bullshit, this is their normal M.O. Don't make talent buy broken down talent.
kareru
10-27-2009, 03:04 PM
signing Bischoff was a good move, if they want to compete with TNA they need the guy that nearly put the opposition out of business, but can he do as well with out mighty ted turner and his blank cheque
erickman
10-27-2009, 03:06 PM
now bischoff
TNA President Dixie Carter and several top flight TNA officials are at Hulk Hogan’s press conference in New York City at Madison Square Garden right now.
The former WCW and WWF champion has inked a deal to join TNA with former WCW Vice President Eric Bischoff joining him in the company as well.
Obviously, this is going to be the start of major changes for the organization.
We’ll have more on this breaking story shortly.
i will trade ruso with bischoff as for hogan i don't know.
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 03:22 PM
Again this changes nothing as I still won't watch TNA.
Splaya
10-27-2009, 03:28 PM
So interesting....
I'm serious
Vastardikai
10-27-2009, 03:36 PM
Calling it now:
New X-Division Champion: Brian Knobbs.
Jordan
10-27-2009, 03:49 PM
I think this is great new for TNA. I mean Hogan I could take or leave, he can work decently sometimes in angles but his matches are obviously unrealistic. However, Bischoff... now thats an acquisition. I hope he gets some power. See what he does.
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TerranRich
10-27-2009, 03:53 PM
I'm more excited about Bischoff joining that Hogan, tbh.
Hanso Amore
10-27-2009, 04:03 PM
AS long as Hogan is a figure and not a wrestler I will be ok with this.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 04:11 PM
My sources are me being right every single time I post shit like this.
When you read the newspaper, do you call or email the writers and ask for their sources on scoops?
You're not a journalist. You're an internet message board poster. They are not the same thing.
Dave Youell
10-27-2009, 04:13 PM
FUCK!!!
NO NO NO!!!!
WHY GOD WHY!!!!
I was loving TNA for the last 6 months, loving it! SHIT, FUCK, BOLLOCKS, CUNT
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Dave Youell
10-27-2009, 04:14 PM
You're not a journalist. You're an internet message board poster. They are not the same thing.
He used to be, I remember 10 years ago reading Rob's reports on the old TPWW site
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Yes, I remember the old Ticking Time Bomb days. But even then, the comparison is ludicrous.
Dave Youell
10-27-2009, 04:24 PM
Yes, I remember the old Ticking Time Bomb days. But even then, the comparison is ludicrous.
It's about as close to a journalist in this field as you are likely to get
erickman
10-27-2009, 04:31 PM
He used to be, I remember 10 years ago reading Rob's reports on the old TPWW site
yea rob kicked ass back in the day an trip a did good play by play on pay per views. before wcw folded.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 04:34 PM
It's about as close to a journalist in this field as you are likely to get
Which still doesn't change the fact that it's a ludicrous comparison.
Waylander
10-27-2009, 04:36 PM
Great news, I love Hogan. I'm a rare breed on the internet though.
taker707
10-27-2009, 04:38 PM
Eric Bischoff will not be involved with the day-to-day creative direction of TNA. His partnership with TNA is via his Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment company. Bischoff played a major role in getting Hulk Hogan to sign with TNA, and will now be working on getting TNA new TV programming.
TNA’s deal with SpikeTV allows them to shop new shows around to other networks if Spike passes on them, so Bischoff will be trying to get TNA new shows. TNA has had interest in the past in launching new shows for the Knockouts, the X-Division, and the online Spin Cycle show.
Bischoff may appear on TNA programming in the future, but that isn’t a given.
Fuckkkkkkkkkkk
Tazz Dan
10-27-2009, 04:44 PM
just curious, what are your sources ?
I have learnt never to question Rob, as he is always correct. That's not being sarcastic either.
Oh, except for that time he told me Bret Hart was backstage at WM :(
D Mac
10-27-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm interested.
Lock Jaw
10-27-2009, 04:45 PM
They should just change TNA to WCW2000.
Dave Youell
10-27-2009, 04:47 PM
I have learnt never to question Rob, as he is always correct. That's not being sarcastic either.
Oh, except for that time he told me Bret Hart was backstage at WM :(
Oh that Bret thing was fucking classic though.
And yeah, Rob's always right.
erickman
10-27-2009, 04:48 PM
well foley said he allways wanted to wresle hogan now it looks like he gets his chance.
Dave Youell
10-27-2009, 04:49 PM
Hmmm,
Foley/Hogan would be interesting....
D Mac
10-27-2009, 04:51 PM
Next Goldberg!
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 04:59 PM
If Scott Hall goes to TNA, then we know what's up.
Also, shut up taker707.
Kami Raki
10-27-2009, 05:00 PM
This could be good for TNA if Russo goes as a result.
Swiss Ultimate
10-27-2009, 05:10 PM
My sources are me being right every single time I post shit like this.
When you read the newspaper, do you call or email the writers and ask for their sources on scoops?
Yes.
Gerard
10-27-2009, 05:12 PM
he can work decently sometimes in angles but his matches are obviously unrealistic.
How often do you see a "realistic" match in wwe these days if at all? The top guys all seem to incorperate some form of no-selling after having their balls slapped with an anvil for half an hour.
Loose Cannon
10-27-2009, 05:18 PM
nice. I don't care what anyone says, I love watching Hulk Hogan on a wrestling show.
taker707
10-27-2009, 05:20 PM
According to a source, there have been preliminary discussions between TNA and Ric Flair as part of the same deal that brought Hulk Hogan and Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment into the company.
ryan clark bullshit
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 05:24 PM
According to a source, there have been preliminary discussions between TNA and Ric Flair as part of the same deal that brought Hulk Hogan and Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment into the company.
ryan clark bullshitRule #1 of TPWW, never believe a word that dipshit says.
Swiss Ultimate
10-27-2009, 05:24 PM
Hmmm,
Foley/Hogan would be interesting....
Hogan would go over clean in under 6 minutes.
RGWhat316
10-27-2009, 05:25 PM
They should just change TNA to WCW2000.
Well, Russo, Nash, Hogan, and Bischoff all under one roof? Goodbye TNA.
taker707
10-27-2009, 05:26 PM
Rule #1 of TPWW, never believe a word that dipshit says.
very true but would be interesting . considering he is part of hogans australian tour thing
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 05:27 PM
I honestly don't see much good coming from this, but for the sakes of TNA fans, I hope I am wrong.
Londoner
10-27-2009, 05:27 PM
So hulk is basically just going to bury everyone then i take it?
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 05:28 PM
So hulk is basically just going to bury everyone then i take it?
Maybe they'll make him the new leader of the MEM?
Londoner
10-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Maybe they'll make him the new leader of the MEM?
Was thinking he'll be atleast joining them, and then AJ styles gets buried, and the title goes back to MEM.
Ermaximus
10-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Was thinking he'll be atleast joining them, and then AJ styles gets buried, and the title goes back to MEM.You just wrote TNA's next 3 months worth of storyline in 1 sentence TL.:shifty:
Loose Cannon
10-27-2009, 05:33 PM
I doubt Hogan is going to effect ratings or anything in TNA right now. The wrestling business is in a rut right now. You can throw any name on TNA and nothing will change in the TV/PPV ratings aspect. They brought in Christian, Angle, Sting, Nash, Booker, Steiner and others. Has anything really chnaged the program drastically? No
so for all you that will possibly stop watching because Hogan is now on your TV, there's the other side that will start watching because Hogan in now on thier TV.
What Hogan is going to help out with is marketing, name value, and all those areas. I believe the guy can still sell tickets and move merchandise. You may see the initial spike in TV ratings, but nothing will change.
morgest1984
10-27-2009, 05:35 PM
This if nothing else might give Vince a swift kick in the nuts, his beloved mainstream media's eyes are now shining on his 'non-existent' competition. WWE needs to do something drastic and if Impact posts a competitive rating on thursday he might have to smell the coffee. Over to you Vincent...........
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 05:36 PM
We're going to miss out on that Hogan/Cena classic at Mania this year.
redoneja
10-27-2009, 05:36 PM
Definitely interested in seeing where this goes. Could be a good move, could be a bad move. Not going to make any "OMGZ HOGAN IS GOING TO RUIN TEH TNA" or "OMG HOGAN IS GOING TO SAVE TNA" statements yet.
ron the dial
10-27-2009, 05:37 PM
i'm ok with this
Loose Cannon
10-27-2009, 05:40 PM
This if nothing else might give Vince a swift kick in the nuts, his beloved mainstream media's eyes are now shining on his 'non-existent' competition. WWE needs to do something drastic and if Impact posts a competitive rating on thursday he might have to smell the coffee. Over to you Vincent...........
some of you still don't get it. WWE has won the wrestling war. I don't forseee any other wrestling promotion touching them in the next 10 years at least. TNA took away Kurt fricken Angle, possibly the best wrestler in the US at that point next to HBK. Did that help TNA much? WWE is just seen in a whole different light now. I really even don't like calling them a wrestling promotion today.
jskinnyg
10-27-2009, 05:46 PM
This will be the downfall of a company that looked like it was turning things around and pushing the younger generation.... If they opt to give Hogan and the old guys a big push again... They are finished...
Fabien Barthez
10-27-2009, 05:48 PM
Listen, Before Angle, TNA were running house shows over here for about 2,500 people at best, and nobody watched Impact. Now they compete in the ratings with WWE, and do House shows closer to 10,000 over here.
I can't speak for the US figures, as I don't know them.... But TNA is far from stuck in the mud. They have been constantly on the rise in every department for 3 years.
Tazz Dan
10-27-2009, 05:49 PM
Oh that Bret thing was fucking classic though.
And yeah, Rob's always right.
That was one of the greatest moments of the TPDUB wrestling forum ever.
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Hogan and Bischoff are great pickups. They will draw. But they need to do more than capture initial interest. They need to retain fans. That is what every other big name acquisition in TNA's history has failed to do.
It may not be all the talent's fault though. I've said it before, but one of the things that holds TNA back is their 6-sided ring. The largest number of wrestling fans in the world are used to and have always known wrestling in a 4-sided ring. Your product is different. So when a casual fan is flipping around and sees a familiar face like Kurt Angle, he may very well go, "Ugh, what the fuck is with that ring?" I just don't see why, when the company has gone to such lengths to copy WWF/WCW/WWE top to bottom in everything from stories, characters, music, they don't copy them in the one area that would be the most obvious to someone flipping around on the TV.
Londoner
10-27-2009, 05:57 PM
Hogan and Bischoff are great pickups. They will draw. But they need to do more than capture initial interest. They need to retain fans. That is what every other big name acquisition in TNA's history has failed to do.
It may not be all the talent's fault though. I've said it before, but one of the things that holds TNA back is their 6-sided ring. The largest number of wrestling fans in the world are used to and have always known wrestling in a 4-sided ring. Your product is different. So when a casual fan is flipping around and sees a familiar face like Kurt Angle, he may very well go, "Ugh, what the fuck is with that ring?" I just don't see why, when the company has gone to such lengths to copy WWF/WCW/WWE top to bottom in everything from stories, characters, music, they don't copy them in the one area that would be the most obvious to someone flipping around on the TV.
ugh, not the '6 sided ring' argument again...i honestly don't see why a 'casual fan' would give a shit. if they suddenly changed to 4 sided, do you reckon the ratings would shoot right up or something?
SammyG
10-27-2009, 06:00 PM
WHATCHA GONNA DO BROTHER
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 06:03 PM
I think it would make the transition to watching TNA easier for some fans. Obviously their ratings wouldn't shoot right up, but I think they would garner a better following than they have now.
You have Brand A, which is the top seller. You have Brand B, which is lagging way behind in the market, but is essentially like Brand A but for one enormous difference that turns off a lot of people. It's like Coke is selling Coke and Pepsi is selling Pepsi Twist. Why not sell regular Pepsi?
thecc
10-27-2009, 06:05 PM
I have a feeling this is gonna be a lot like wcw 94
Halbowsky
10-27-2009, 06:06 PM
Well everyone is going to think that Hogan is going to wrestle 5 star matches, while he can't even do the legdrop anymore
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 06:16 PM
I don't think anyone thinks Hogan is going to wrestle 5 star matches.
taker707
10-27-2009, 06:21 PM
According to a source, there are more big things to come in TNA. According to reports, there is a bigger story on the way besides the Hogan-Bischoff deal. There have definitely been talks with Ric Flair and there was also talk of moving to Monday night head to head vs. RAW. There is also expected to be more TNA television as well with all of this.
They only planned to announce Hogan and Bischoff today but sources have told me there is lots more coming. Big changes and big stars coming in.
Vince Russo is still employed at this time and everyone says they will be working together. As soon as a problem arises though, things could hit the fan.
Start guessing on the big names
Londoner
10-27-2009, 06:24 PM
shut up taker707
taker707
10-27-2009, 06:25 PM
HAVENT YOU GUYS FIGURED IT OUT YET . IM RYAN CLARK AND I WILL NOT SHUT UP EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 06:25 PM
I would expect them to snatch up Kennedy and Umaga if they haven't already, especially if they move to Monday.
Londoner
10-27-2009, 06:26 PM
well i'm scared shitless now, that's for sure
Fabien Barthez
10-27-2009, 06:29 PM
Well everyone is going to think that Hogan is going to wrestle 5 star matches, while he can't even do the legdrop anymore
Best post ever.
AJHayes
10-27-2009, 06:35 PM
Eric Bischoff will not be involved with the day-to-day creative direction of TNA. His partnership with TNA is via his Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment company. Bischoff played a major role in getting Hulk Hogan to sign with TNA, and will now be working on getting TNA new TV programming.
TNA’s deal with SpikeTV allows them to shop new shows around to other networks if Spike passes on them, so Bischoff will be trying to get TNA new shows. TNA has had interest in the past in launching new shows for the Knockouts, the X-Division, and the online Spin Cycle show.
Bischoff may appear on TNA programming in the future, but that isn’t a given.
Fuckkkkkkkkkkk
Fuck off, taker707
The Mackem
10-27-2009, 06:37 PM
Hopefully this will work out better than the last time they 'signed' Hogan.
You're not a journalist. You're an internet message board poster. They are not the same thing.
1 - You don't know what I do for a living.
2 - So if I can't link something from a wrestling site then it's obviously not true then since I can't prove the source. Oh wait, what happened today again?
Sucks being you.
Rammsteinmad
10-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Can Hogan still move?
The Mackem
10-27-2009, 06:41 PM
I tend to go with Rob's track record on these things.
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 06:45 PM
1. I don't care what you do for a living.
2. No one said they didn't believe you, they just asked where you heard this. Then you got very defensive and acted like you're some big shot who's above everyone else.
You could've easily said, "A friend/colleague/confidant told me. It hasn't made the news yet." Instead you tried to make yourself seem like a bigger deal than you really are. Get over yourself. You're a nobody.
Droford
10-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Does Vince "remove" Hogan from the HOF?
By remove I mean make no mention of him being in it when WM comes around again..
HBPunk
10-27-2009, 06:47 PM
that was awesome supreme
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 06:47 PM
For the record, I believed you when I read this. That being said, it doesn't make you special. Someone asked you a simple question and you became a smug prick about it.
1. I don't care what you do for a living.
2. No one said they didn't believe you, they just asked where you heard this. Then you got very defensive and acted like you're some big shot who's above everyone else.
You could've easily said, "A friend/colleague/confidant told me. It hasn't made the news yet." Instead you tried to make yourself seem like a bigger deal than you really are. Get over yourself. You're a nobody.
1 - You told me I wasn't a journalist didn't you? Therefore you do care.
2 - I didn't get very defensive at all. Told the truth. By now, people know I won't name my friends. The track record speaks for itself. It's not like I post 50 threads a month. Closer to 2 a year tops!
3 - I'm the only person on this site who openly admits he/she is a nobody.
Londoner
10-27-2009, 06:53 PM
1. I don't care what you do for a living.
2. No one said they didn't believe you, they just asked where you heard this. Then you got very defensive and acted like you're some big shot who's above everyone else.
You could've easily said, "A friend/colleague/confidant told me. It hasn't made the news yet." Instead you tried to make yourself seem like a bigger deal than you really are. Get over yourself. You're a nobody.
:y:
Calm down rob.
Skippord
10-27-2009, 06:56 PM
god dammit
Supreme Olajuwon
10-27-2009, 06:57 PM
1 - You told me I wasn't a journalist didn't you? Therefore you do care.
2 - I didn't get very defensive at all. Told the truth. By now, people know I won't name my friends. The track record speaks for itself. It's not like I post 50 threads a month. Closer to 2 a year tops!
3 - I'm the only person on this site who openly admits he/she is a nobody.
1. You compared yourself to someone who writes for a newspaper, not me. If you really are a journalist then stop giving away information for free.
2. If you only post 2 threads a year, then why would you expect someone who registered in May to know anything about you? And then why would you taunt that person afterward when the story broke as if he was challenging you?
3. "My sources are me being right every single time I post shit like this." Very humble.
Inadequacy
10-27-2009, 07:08 PM
1. I always find it amusing when conversations on TPWW turn into two guys making numbered points back and forth.
Nicky Fives
10-27-2009, 07:08 PM
R.I.P TNA; 2003-lucky to get to 2010
thedamndest
10-27-2009, 07:08 PM
Don't make Rob leave the internet again.
Fuck this, I was hoping he was busy filming Mr Nanny 2.
NeanderCarl
10-27-2009, 07:26 PM
I, for one, will be watching Impact when Hogan debuts out of morbid curiosity. If Hogan can somehow recapture that 1996 lightning in a bottle, especially with an MEM heel turn, then kudos.
Anything that gets Vince to pick his game up is a good thing, in my view.
RGWhat316
10-27-2009, 07:35 PM
LOL, now the main page is saying that Flair could also be heading to TNA. This is just getting hysterical now.
Heyman
10-27-2009, 07:46 PM
I greatly look forward to the return of Hogan and Bischoff. I wonder if this will prompt Goldberg to sign. I realize that he has said no to TNA in the past, but this signing might make him re-consider (if memory serves me correctly, he is friend's with Hogan).
Wow, TNA is becoming the retirement home of professional wrestling.
Waiting for them to dig up Lou Thesz's remains.
1. You compared yourself to someone who writes for a newspaper, not me. If you really are a journalist then stop giving away information for free.
2. If you only post 2 threads a year, then why would you expect someone who registered in May to know anything about you? And then why would you taunt that person afterward when the story broke as if he was challenging you?
3. "My sources are me being right every single time I post shit like this." Very humble.
1 - Never compared myself to anyone. I said people don't question journalists on their sources. And I'm still not naming mine.
2 - I never taunted anyone.
3 - It was a fact. You can think it's me not being humble. I say it's me telling it like it is.
:wave:
I'm still a nobody.
Fabien Barthez
10-27-2009, 08:19 PM
I greatly look forward to the return of Hogan and Bischoff. I wonder if this will prompt Goldberg to sign. I realize that he has said no to TNA in the past, but this signing might make him re-consider (if memory serves me correctly, he is friend's with Hogan).
Don't think they are quite so tight now, as Bill turned down the Hogan tour saying the old man wants all the money for himself.
I better not see the strap on that orange fuck.
Blue Demon
10-27-2009, 08:51 PM
So it seems Hogan may not be wrestling all that much after all, if that maked anyone feel a bit better:
http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/1256680273.php?style=dark
Some news and notes have been making the rounds today since the announcement of Hulk Hogan signing with TNA Wrestling today. You can read the full press release featuring comments from TNA President Dixie Carter, Hogan and Spike TV President Kevin Kay at this link.
Here is what is known at least as of today.
* When asked about Vince Russo (the current head of TNA creative), Hogan said as long as Russo knew his place in the company then everything would be fine.
* The feeling is that Hogan will be a major on-screen character for TNA, but wasn't expected to be wrestling on regular basis for the company.
* One part of this deal is that Spike TV will get the first look at the proposed Hogan/Ric Flair reality series.
* Speaking of Flair, he did sign a three year deal with Eric Bischoff's company to become part of the upcoming "Hulkamania" tour of Australia in November (which is still taking place). While nothing is official, the general feeling is that Flair signing with Bischoff means he will stay involved with Hogan which could mean a possible involvement with TNA.
* Were told this was the first of many big announcements to come from TNA and Spike TV. What would be bigger than Hogan and Bischoff signing with the company is anyone's guess. Early speculation is a possible timeslot change for Impact moving to Monday night's to go head-to-head with Raw or additional programming that was announced when TNA signed a new TV deal with Spike this year.
* To reiterate, Dave Meltzer is reporting that they only wanted to announce the signing of Hogan and Bischoff today and that something bigger is expected soon.
* CNN cameras were filming footage at the press conference today. Hogan is on "Larry King Live" tonight so he will more than likely plug his TNA signing and his new book.
Blue Demon
10-27-2009, 08:52 PM
I better not see the strap on that <s>orange</s> red and yellow fuck.
"* When asked about Vince Russo (the current head of TNA creative), Hogan said as long as Russo knew his place in the company then everything would be fine."
Creative > Wrestlers.
Hogan's the one who doesn't know his place.
ClockShot
10-27-2009, 08:55 PM
Wow. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff signed with TNA. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures for Hulk
I can see a huge war backstage between Hogan and Angle. Possibly Jarrett whenever he re-emerges.
Bischoff could be awesome if used right. But as I was reading the reports from the main page, he got something going on with his production company. So I guess he's taking a back seat in the meantime.
Dunno. In one hand, I see Hogan wearing 24" pythons squashing the entire locker and getting the belt and his way in no time flat. In a 6-sided ring, probably a new concept for him. On the other hand, maybe Nash and the other big vets can keep him in check.
AJHayes
10-27-2009, 09:05 PM
rob u need to shut the fuck up,ur lookin like a penis
Fuck off, you brain dead shit heel. You haven't been here long enough to say things like that.
Hogan MIGHT, and I stress might add maybe a half point to their common 1.0 rating.
Blue Demon
10-27-2009, 09:21 PM
What'll probably happen is people will tune in the first show he's on just because it's Hogan, then after that it'll return to normal
Hogan would do best wrestling an extremely limited basis in the right situation with the right person. I'm talking once or twice a year, if even that.
Arashi Kage
10-27-2009, 09:33 PM
.....so for all you that will possibly stop watching because Hogan is now on your TV, there's the other side that will start watching because Hogan in now on thier TV.
I haven't watched wrestling in years, never followed TNA other than the brief beginning as NWA-TNA out of curiosity, but with the Hulkster and Easy E, I will be interested to start watching.
I had been happy that Hogan was "home" in WWF(E) and wrapped up his career there, but I'm sure with all his problems that he'll take any opportunity for some fresh cash.
DAMN iNATOR
10-27-2009, 10:22 PM
I'd wish TNA the best in its future endeavors, but as of now it has none.
Damian Rey
10-27-2009, 10:32 PM
I'm gonna be honest...I will watch...or at the very least, DVR it so I can watch it later. Just out of pure speculation as to what Hogan's role may or may not be. Either way, Hogan doesn't have it in him anymore to turn the company around like he did in WCW.
Splaya
10-27-2009, 10:52 PM
So it seems Hogan may not be wrestling all that much after all, if that maked anyone feel a bit better:
http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/1256680273.php?style=dark
Some news and notes have been making the rounds today since the announcement of Hulk Hogan signing with TNA Wrestling today. You can read the full press release featuring comments from TNA President Dixie Carter, Hogan and Spike TV President Kevin Kay at this link.
Here is what is known at least as of today.
* When asked about Vince Russo (the current head of TNA creative), Hogan said as long as Russo knew his place in the company then everything would be fine.
* The feeling is that Hogan will be a major on-screen character for TNA, but wasn't expected to be wrestling on regular basis for the company.
* One part of this deal is that Spike TV will get the first look at the proposed Hogan/Ric Flair reality series.
* Speaking of Flair, he did sign a three year deal with Eric Bischoff's company to become part of the upcoming "Hulkamania" tour of Australia in November (which is still taking place). While nothing is official, the general feeling is that Flair signing with Bischoff means he will stay involved with Hogan which could mean a possible involvement with TNA.
* Were told this was the first of many big announcements to come from TNA and Spike TV. What would be bigger than Hogan and Bischoff signing with the company is anyone's guess. Early speculation is a possible timeslot change for Impact moving to Monday night's to go head-to-head with Raw or additional programming that was announced when TNA signed a new TV deal with Spike this year.
* To reiterate, Dave Meltzer is reporting that they only wanted to announce the signing of Hogan and Bischoff today and that something bigger is expected soon.
* CNN cameras were filming footage at the press conference today. Hogan is on "Larry King Live" tonight so he will more than likely plug his TNA signing and his new book.
Interesting development. Apparently the addition is not switching impact to Monday night's but to put another 2 hour slot of programming to go head to head with Raw. And no, it would not be a jobber show
James Steele
10-27-2009, 11:13 PM
:lol:
I have a feeling this is the proverbial "all or nothing" gamble for TNA. Either this works, and TNA becomes a force in the international landscape of pro wrestling...or WWE kills TNA off once and for all. We'll know in 5 years...
Vastardikai
10-28-2009, 12:39 AM
Maybe we'll finally see the Ax Bomber on US Shores?
You know, I wouldn't mind see Hogan Wrestle, on two conditions:
1. He only worked the style he works in Japan
2. He was mobile.
:shifty:
Damian Rey
10-28-2009, 12:48 AM
You may be out of luck on that second condition...
kareru
10-28-2009, 01:44 AM
i dont see why everyone is like 'r.i.p tna'
this is the best thing to happen business wise to tna, although hogan cant and probably won't wrestle anymore his draw factor is so huge that even just being at the company will sell tickets and pull ratings, and with the added bonus of eric bischoff (possibly in creative) i cant see how this could fail, you remember eric bischoff right? the guy that had vince McMahon on the ropes and ended wwf's total domination for over 2 years.
not only are wrestling magazines and websites talking about this but entertainment media aswell, hogan is not only a wrestler but also a celebrity, as james steele said, this is the 'all or nothing moment' and i fail to see how this could go wrong
The MAC
10-28-2009, 02:05 AM
People are iin the wrong place - bischoff should be involved in creative (bye bye Russo). Hogan should be promoting and MAYBE one or 2 matches a year.
As for Flair coming in, unless he comes in as a monster heel I don't really care. These old fuckers should all come in as heels and get the younger talent over. If Styles jobs to Hogan TNA is over.
Flair as a monster heel?
Come on.
I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
The MAC
10-28-2009, 07:26 AM
seriously! Mr Saggy tits could come in and shoot on Vince forcing him to retire then turn on one of the babyfaces "breaing" their leg in a figure 4.
RVDmark
10-28-2009, 10:33 AM
rob u need to shut the fuck up,ur lookin like a penis
Says mr illiterate. (it means you cant spell).
RVDmark
10-28-2009, 10:34 AM
Flair as a monster heel?
Come on.
I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
Now THAT would be funny.
Mr. Nerfect
10-28-2009, 11:29 AM
This is interesting. I can understand why some people would not be "happy," about this, per se; but from a business perspective this is fantastic for TNA. Hulk Hogan, along with Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, is probably one of the only "mainstream" wrestling names there is. Everyone knows who the fuck Hulk Hogan is, and that makes whatever Hogan is doing somewhat relevant in the eyes of many people.
He may not be a fantastic wrestler (and he may not have ever been), but he is a celebrity, and one of the truest draws wrestling has ever had. I am far from a Hogan fan, but even I find myself buying into the hysteria occasionally. I actually bought one of his DVDs once, which surprises me in retrospect, and I was marking along with fucking Toronto when he was facing The Rock.
This, combined with TNA actually getting their priorities straight, creatively (which they have seemed to be doing lately), and giving us matches like AJ vs. Joe vs. Daniels and Angle vs. Desmond Wolfe -- I really want to see them succeed. And worst case scenario is this: TNA folds, the WWE picks up the talented workers, and ROH becomes the default #2.
I'm not sure what else TNA plans -- but if they sign Ken Anderson, Eddie Fatu, Paul London, Brian Kendrick and even Kim Couture to contracts -- I will be very excited. Hell, Rob Van Dam has even been dropping TNA hints lately, saying that he would be closer to his family.
I don't think this will instantly make TNA a threat to the WWE, or anything, but I think having a legitimate draw like Hulk Hogan will allow them to develop further, get more mainstream attention, and if they position themselves right, be seen as a major underdog against the WWE. I think they are turning a profit now, so they're doing a good thing.
Mr. Nerfect
10-28-2009, 11:32 AM
Ric Flair signing would also be huge. I can actually imagine your casual WWE fan talking to another casual WWE fan:
"Dude! Ric Flair is still around!"
"What, I thought he retired?"
"No! Apparently he's now in this TNA place, with Hulk Hogan."
"Shit! I gotta check this out!"
*A few days later*
"Man, those Motor City Machine Guns are really fucking cool!"
"Yeah, and they're really funny, too!"
If they manage to keep Hogan as a figure, as people have said, and this doesn't effect TNA's creative process much, if at all, then I can see this being a really good thing for the entire product.
Who honestly thinks Hogan won't politic?
He's going to destroy TNA from the inside out.
Skippord
10-28-2009, 01:38 PM
Flair as a monster heel?
Come on.
I could see him as Herbert from Family Guy type of heel maybe.
I'd watch Ric Flair try to molest the Motor City Machine Guns
there's no way to word that sentence without it sounding bad
From PWInsider:
If Bubba The Love Sponge is to be believed, that is exactly what will happen soon. On his Twitter page, Bubba continually referred to Hogan as "the boss" (I wonder how Bobby Lashley will feel about that!). When asked what role Hogan will play in TNA, Bubba said, "he is the Booker. Period. Saw it in his contract". He also added that "Terry and Eric won't make the same mistakes that they made at WCW."
Thanks to Nick Ferro for his help with this story.
--
Jesus Christ.
Innovator
10-28-2009, 03:05 PM
nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah
HEY HEY HEY
goodbye TNA
NeanderCarl
10-28-2009, 03:11 PM
Those saying TNA needs Eric Bischoff on the booking team clearly don't understand the behind the scenes workings of WCW. Bischoff never was the booker. He was executive VP and then president. He was in charge of WCW operations. The actual booking was handled by the likes of Flair, Rhodes, Sullivan and Nash, with Eric having final say. The top guys pretty much booked themselves too.
Eric was more of an 'ideas' guy. If he contributes some of those ideas (from the same pool that cruiserweights, nWo, and Monday night head-to-head showdowns came from) then he could be an asset to TNA. As a booker, he is untested.
Also, whoever it was who said "Bookers > Wrestlers" is talking shit. Bookers don't draw merchandise sales, PPV buys and TV ratings. Maybe their creative minds lead to that, but no sensible promoter would choose their (non-wrestler) booker over a star performer. Maybe when Vince Russo vs Bryan Gerwertz posts a monster buy rate that will change. Maybe when casual wrestling fans tune in on a Friday night specifically to find out what Michael Hayes has dreamed up this week, things will be different. Until then, it's Wrestler > Booker.
I agree with you to a point. But when it comes down to it, Creative is who should be leading the majority of the direction of a character, NOT the wrestler. Of course they can contribute, but when it comes down to it, the bookers' major plans should take precedent over a wrestlers' major plans.
erickman
10-28-2009, 03:55 PM
i wonder what double j will do now hogan taken over his company
James Steele
10-28-2009, 04:42 PM
I would LMAO if Jarrett tries to crawl back to Vince.
Tazz Dan
10-28-2009, 04:46 PM
:lol: Rob.
Come on Supreme, he's fucking with you.
The MAC
10-28-2009, 04:50 PM
hogan/tna is already working. Everyone is talking about this and noone is going on about orton/cena no.5563678632 in a cell surround by crocodiles in jello.
Bischoff had final say and ideas which is the role tna needs him to play. I think bischoff has the ego , drive and downright obsession to defeat wwe. however looking at from another angle, we have wcw cast circa 2000 in tna. Time will tell
That's because Orton/Cena is over. :roll:
lol just read about him having control in TNA. Apparently 'the only person he has to answer to is Mr. Dixon'. Not even Dixie herself. lol. Hogan is the man.
Who is Mr. Dixon? Checked the TNA and Panda Energy wiki and found nothing.
LOL. Why the fuck would I put Mr. Dixon. Getting Dixie mixed up with the last name. Meant to say Mr. Carter
LOL oh. Thought that was like some ultra secrete owner of Panda Energy or something.
And who the hell is Mr Carter?
Swiss Ultimate
10-28-2009, 05:21 PM
Hogan is going to tear a quad on his first appearance on Impact.
Taz: Usually the Big Boot has the other guy on the ground crying, whoa!
And who the hell is Mr Carter?
The man that pays Kurt Angle and co's wages
Uhm, Dixie Carter is a woman, and her husband's last name is Salinas, so the question still stands.
Dixie Carter is only the 'president' of TNA. Her parents, namely her father, owners of Panda Energy, own the company.
weather vane
10-28-2009, 08:33 PM
I feel like they could do a lot with Hogan and Bishoff. I would be interested in Bishoff taking over the company on screen. Eventually talking about the past between WWE and WCW and evetually starting another Monday Night Wars. Eventually.
Splaya
10-28-2009, 08:42 PM
Hogan is going to tear a quad on his first appearance on Impact.
Taz: Usually the Big Boot has the other guy on the ground crying, whoa!
Ur thinking of Nash
The MAC
10-28-2009, 09:59 PM
maybe hogan will die in the tna ring
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2009, 02:38 AM
Hopefully TNA aren't stupid enough to give Hogan control of the entire company. Hopefully.
The MAC
10-29-2009, 03:20 AM
Hogan will draw attention and all you fuckers will be tuning into TNA whether you admit it or not.
1 - Never compared myself to anyone. I said people don't question journalists on their sources. And I'm still not naming mine.
2 - I never taunted anyone.
3 - It was a fact. You can think it's me not being humble. I say it's me telling it like it is.
:wave:
I'm still a nobody.
Who doesn't get questioned on their sources?
Maybe a news source (CNN, Fox News, etc) doesn't always get questioned on their source by the public in general, but the journalist themselves are questioned on the source...whether it be by the public, the editors, or the news director. When news is reported in the paper or on tv, the public merely assumes it to be true because those reports must be confirmed before being reported or the news source will be in legal trouble.
You posted your headline on a internet message board which sources are not checked, and which a member was in his right to ask about. It's actually something very encouraged these days...and even considered "common sense" to ask. So to say that you, a journalist, shouldn't be questioned on how he came to his information is ludicrous.
And don't get me wrong. As a former reader of "The Ticking Timebomb", I take what you say seriously, but it doesn't mean you have instant credibility in everything you say to everyone here. You don't want to share your source, that's fine...but don't put up some bullshit about how people shouldn't question your information.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2009, 07:52 AM
Rob is always right. I had to learn that like everyone else does, though. New guys will always question you, big man. Don't take it as an insult -- just make new fans.
Mr. Nerfect
10-29-2009, 07:54 AM
If this leads to Eric Bischoff becoming the new authority figure on-air, I will love it. Few are better at that job than The Bisch. As for Mick Foley, if TNA gets a second show, I'd love for him to go back to the commentary desk. Foley became a really good color analyst, in my opinion. I liked the way he unbiasedly assessed things, and brought a "well, I hate to break this to you Cole/JR, but it goes like this..." aspect to the table.
So, Impact debuts on Freeview (free digital TV, as apose to paid cable/Sky) over here in the UK tomorrow night. The blurb for the show mentions Hogan debuting, but that can't be right, surely? Wasn't this weeks show taped 2 weeks ago?
Either way, if it is true (or if he debuts in the next couple weeks) it could be a good thing for getting the TNA brand out there in the UK at least as the deal with Virgin (the channel showing Impact) is a month long - I am led to believe - to "test the waters".
Mr. Nerfect
10-30-2009, 01:39 PM
Hogan did an interview with Time Magazine, apparently, and this is what he reportedly said on signing with TNA:
"When I woke up and realized I should be my own man and be responsible for being happy, I realized I still have a lot to contribute to the wrestling business. And jumping into TNA [Total Nonstop Action] and being a part of that company is huge. I have a chance to give back and help these young wrestlers who don't understand the business and the art form."
To me, that started off good, but then it got more shady towards the end. "Teaching them the art form" could be taken in a constructive "giving them backstage advice" way -- but it could also mean Hogan will show them how to strap on a World Title belt. But then again, "giving back" could just mean Hogan wants to work with a smaller competitor, and give them the rub just by showing up.
I'm very curious, but Hogan as TNA World Heavyweight Champion is not something I am particularly interested in seeing.
thedamndest
10-30-2009, 03:28 PM
If Hogan is wrestling, Hogan will be champ. He got a nostalgia run in the WWE, but for the most part they kept him away from the title because they had hotter stars that the fans were paying to see. Does TNA have better talent than Hogan? No doubt. Would Hogan holding the belt outdraw A.J. holding the belt? Probably. That's what it comes down to.
I'm not saying give Hogan the keys to the kingdom. But if he proves to be a bigger draw, he can use that to make other guys bigger draws. Put the title and the spotlight on him and the spotlight will be on everyone else as well.
Fignuts
10-30-2009, 04:51 PM
Why is everone saying eric bischoff is such a great idea guy?
alright, he created the nwo. What did he do after that?
He created 3 more nwo's.
How original.
kareru
10-30-2009, 05:02 PM
Why is everone saying eric bischoff is such a great idea guy?
alright, he created the nwo. What did he do after that?
He created 3 more nwo's.
How original.
goldberg
erickman
10-30-2009, 05:24 PM
i would give him the legends belt you can let him fued with nash or foley for it, that would give him a belt an the young guys can fight for the tna belt.
BigDaddyCool
10-30-2009, 05:28 PM
goldberg
He created nWo, and happened apon Goldberg, what else did he do? He doesn't have the best track record.
kareru
10-30-2009, 05:32 PM
He created nWo, and happened apon Goldberg, what else did he do? He doesn't have the best track record.
i'd say beating the wwf in the ratings war for over two years straight is a good track record, and again history is repeating itself
wwf- aimed at children
wcw - underdog needing a boost
thedamndest
10-30-2009, 05:41 PM
I think Bischoff's stint as Raw GM is an indication of how the casual fan views his role in WCW. Was that an accurate view? No. But does it show he had the potential to generates sales? Yes.
Working for the WWE was a completely different scenario than TNA though. There you had Bisch, long portrayed as the man that nearly killed the company, actually in a position of power on Raw. In TNA he's got to sink or swim on his own merit. There's no WCW v. WWF story for him to be relevant. It's just "Here's Eric Bischoff. I did these things in WCW, these things in WWE, and now I'm here." Will that generate sales? Remains to be seen.
Mr. Nerfect
10-31-2009, 02:00 AM
If Hogan is wrestling, Hogan will be champ. He got a nostalgia run in the WWE, but for the most part they kept him away from the title because they had hotter stars that the fans were paying to see. Does TNA have better talent than Hogan? No doubt. Would Hogan holding the belt outdraw A.J. holding the belt? Probably. That's what it comes down to.
I'm not saying give Hogan the keys to the kingdom. But if he proves to be a bigger draw, he can use that to make other guys bigger draws. Put the title and the spotlight on him and the spotlight will be on everyone else as well.
If Hogan is wrestling, I think he would best give the rub to some guys via the tag team division. Bring in Ric Flair for one PPV match against Hogan, which could draw, and could be marketed as two of the best ever, admittedly past their prime, finding out once and for all who is the best. Hogan wins that match after an Axe Bomber followed by the Leg Drop, but Flair low blows Hogan after the match, and puts him in the Figure Four.
That is strictly for money. No real stars are created directly through Hogan, but hopefully the buys and ratings are up, so a lot more people see, say, AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle for the TNA World Title.
Then have Hogan move into a program with Eric Young over the TNA Global Championship. Have their PPV end in disqualification when World Elite beats down Hogan, and Young tries to drive him out of the company. So technically Hogan is 2-0 on PPV. Eric Young is screaming in Hogan's face about how TNA is his company, or something, but then Matt Morgan appears on the scene and cleans house on the heels, and saves Hogan's ass.
At Hogan's third PPV, have Hulk Hogan & Matt Morgan team up to challenge The British Invasion for the TNA World Tag Team Championship. Hogan plays the face-in-peril, as The British Invasion tear Hogan up, as the "weak link" in the team. Hogan eventually tags in Morgan, however, who cleans house, and gets the pin for his team -- allowing Hogan to win his first championship in TNA.
By teaming with Morgan, Hogan can make him look like a million bucks. Hogan has only held one Tag Team Championship in his career, and that was with Edge. Holding one with Matt Morgan could be put over as a really big deal. It also allows Hogan to wear gold, while not exactly running roughshed over the entire TNA roster. He wins because Morgan wins. And eventually, you can have Morgan do what Hogan could never do, and pin Eric Young to become the TNA Global Champion, which gives him his first TNA singles title win, and can help him build up his resume as he is prepared for the main event.
thedamndest
10-31-2009, 02:31 PM
That's not a bad scenario at all, but why would it be better than Hogan being World Champ? Judging by the ratings of a show Hogan wasn't even on, people are tuning in for the Hulkster. They want to see the 24" pythons running wild in the Impact Zone. Now that they have everyone's attention give the belt to Hogan. It worked for so many years in WCW and it will work now. The reason it stopped working in WCW is because it got old, so I'm not saying do it forever. But as a short-term program it will garner interest.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2009, 01:05 AM
You are correct, it would garner interest. I think TNA has a chance to turn around critics with this move, too, though. The casual fans may come for a little bit, but then it is up to the rest of the product to keep the viewers watching. If the product is headed up by an old guy without a hip, then it becomes harder to really root for them. The smark audience, which may not be huge, but is probably one TNA could really use on their side, because of loyalty, may find it very hard to get into a program that has Hogan as the World Champion.
And I think seeing Hogan as World Champion today might even be a bit hard for some casual fans to swallow. It is only anecdotal evidence, but my dad, who could probably be considered a casual fan who knows it is staged, could just not get into Ric Flair in the later parts of Flair's career. He loved Flair outside the ring, with his suits and his Rolexes, but when he got in the ring, my dad just could not buy him doing anything.
I think Hogan running wild over TNA would be believable and marketable to the most basic fans, but I think they are the ones the WWE is trying to attract at the moment. Is it wise for TNA to play the WWE's game? Shouldn't they be going for an older, more complete audience?
thedamndest
11-01-2009, 12:58 PM
I think older fans are the ones flipping over to see Hogan in the first place. It makes more sense to assume that a large bump was caused by droves of fans who are at least semi-familiar with Hogan's career rather than a bunch of 8-year-olds who have only seen him on American Gladiators.
As far as smark loyalty, smarks have pretty much proven they will watch wrestling through anything. TNA could make David Arquette, jr. the champion and smarks would watch, if for no other reason than to bitch about how much better ROH is. What TNA needs is actual numbers.
Mr. Nerfect
11-01-2009, 04:47 PM
I think older fans are the ones flipping over to see Hogan in the first place. It makes more sense to assume that a large bump was caused by droves of fans who are at least semi-familiar with Hogan's career rather than a bunch of 8-year-olds who have only seen him on American Gladiators.
As far as smark loyalty, smarks have pretty much proven they will watch wrestling through anything. TNA could make David Arquette, jr. the champion and smarks would watch, if for no other reason than to bitch about how much better ROH is. What TNA needs is actual numbers.
I agree, to a point. I think them taking the same approach as the WWE to things, though, is going to limit their success.
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