Who wins the WWE Unified Tag Titles?

[Phenomenal 1]

Okay so does anyone else join me in feeling that since Jericho and Big Show are now engulfed in being featured on both Smackdown and Raw each week that the WWE Unified Tag Team Title picture is getting stale and that I can't remember the last time that they defended the titles was. I'm sure it hasn't been that long but I really am getting tired of teams getting the titles and then not defending them for 5 months before we finally see a tag title match.

So let's discuss who we think beats Jerishow for the Tag Team Titles and why? And also does anyone think the titles should stay unified or should WWE go back to Brand Respective Tag Titles and why?

[GD]

I really hope DX don't win them. I am cool with them titles being Unified.

[Sixx]

I think that there'll be a Jerishow break-up and both Jericho and Show'll choose their partners and battle eachother for the belts.

But what I'd like more is to make them lose the titles and get both of them back in the singles scene.

[Phenomenal 1]

I would really love to see the Hart Dynasty with the titles perhaps with the teased break up of Jerishow....have them win it on SD as a wildcard match capitalizing on a distraction between the team members. I really think this would be a good opportunity to test the longevity and heel potential of this stable.

I would personally like to see the titles stay unified....Tag Team Titles seem to garner less respect and tend to get lost in the midst of the brand when they are exlcusive to only one show

[GD]

Hart Dynasty have a long way to go. It should be

#1. Simply Priceless. (They need it)
#2. Hurricane Helms & Kane. (Kane needs to turn face)
#3. The Brothers of Destruction. (But then Taker is working only one show a week)
#4. The E&C Connection. (I would cum in my pants)
#5. Cryme Tyme.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I used to think that DX were set to take the titles, but now I'm not so sure. The idea of Triple H and Shawn Michaels working on both RAW and SmackDown! intrigues me, though. And I'm not exactly the biggest DX fan out there...

Edge & Christian would be another pick, when Edge is ready to return. Eventually, I would not mind seeing the Tag Titles go back to being two separate championships. They just need to actually stick with tag teams. Call up Caylen Croft & Trent Berreta from FCW, and put The Colons back together. Call up Alberto Banderas as Chavo Guerrero's new partner. Have The Great Khali start hanging out with Funaki. There are four teams there.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Big Show's held it for 101+ days, whereas Jericho has held his for 129+ so far, and I'm not sure when the last time the belts were defended, although the thought occurs to me that it may have been vs. Legacy on RAW during the build to Bragging Rights, not 100% on that though.

And, G.D. don't take this as a knock on you personally, but wouldn't you agree that Cryme Tyme should be next in line to hold the gold? I mean, you've got a tag team that was shafted for forever in supposedly winning a match at a 2007 or 2008 pay-per-view that was supposed to grant them the next World Tag Team title shot. Then when they finally get their shot, it's at the Unified titles, and Cryme Tyme gets their shot but is shafted out of the gold.

Once Cryme Tyme has just 1 good lengthy run with the belts, then I would go along with the rest of your list.

[Phenomenal 1]

Agreed with DAMN iNATOR.....Cryme Tyme is most definately overdue to take a crack at running with the gold.....and would be a great chance to build Shad Gaspard as a viable big man persona for a potential heel turn and singles run down the road....what you think on that one DAMN?

[The Jayman]

I actually agree with DAMN iNATOR on this one. I think Cryme Tyme deserves a run with tag titles b/c every shot they get they are screwed out of it.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Agreed with DAMN iNATOR.....Cryme Tyme is most definately overdue to take a crack at running with the gold.....and would be a great chance to build Shad Gaspard as a viable big man persona for a potential heel turn and singles run down the road....what you think on that one DAMN?

It would certainly be a great opportunity to let big bad Shad build his resume. And I think they could even steal the titles, a la their gimmick, at a future pay-per-view, just have Slam Master J come out and provide a distraction that allows JeriShow to lose the belts.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm far more interested in what Cryme Tyme can do away from each than what they can do together, to be honest. If Cryme Tyme won the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, I would probably be more interested if Shad cut a promo with JTG, where he says that he came to the WWE to prove that he alone was the baddest of the bad, and now that he has won the Unified WWE Tag Team Championship, he realises that it isn't enough. He then cracks JTG with a massive shot, and walks out with all four belts.

[XCaliber]

It'd be nice to see Legacy with them again but there bound to split up later this month. There is such a lack of legit tag teams that they should and unify them and make it one pair for both shows. I'd like to see DX get a short run with them and then eventually drop them to the Hart Dynasty.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

If Jerishow holds onto them until Edge comes back, then I could see Edge and Christian reuniting and taking them.

[Juan]

Another case of the IWC never being satisfied. First people bitch that the tag titles aren't used properly, and now that they're featured prominently on both shows, it's getting stale.I hate all of you.

[Jordan]

I love Jerishow as champion and I would hope they stay that way for a long time. Nobody should beat them except DX or Edge and Christian, and I really hope its not DX.

[Nicky Fives]

Edge returns, distracts JeriShow in their match vs. Hart Dynasty, JeriShow lose the Titles, regain them in a mandatory rematch a few weeks later which sets up a JeriShow vs. Edge & Mystery Partner (Christian) at WM

[Supreme Olajuwon]

The correct answer is JeriShow drop the titles to Cryme Tyme at the Royal Rumble in a street fight, and then we have a feud between Cryme Tyme and the Hart Dynasty.

[Theo Dious]

Edge returns, distracts JeriShow in their match vs. Hart Dynasty, JeriShow lose the Titles, regain them in a mandatory rematch a few weeks later which sets up a JeriShow vs. Edge & Mystery Partner (Christian) at WM

Hire this man!

[thegoat10]

edge & christian would be nice but christan needs to get off ECW..

[Phenomenal 1]

I say Christian gets off ECW either by being the underdog winner of the RR or Winning Money in the Bank at Mania...

[Xero]

I was pretty confused when they dropped the DX build which was pretty obviously set for Survivor Series.

[Phenomenal 1]

Another comibination that could be put together to win the tag team titles that I would love seeing would be John Morrison and Matt Hardy, I think their styles could mesh well enough to be consistent top contenders to the titles and make the tag team division interesting. Another one would be CM Punk and Bryan Danielson if they don't send him to ECW which is more than likely once he gets established and debuts with WWE.

[Phenomenal 1]

I was pretty confused when they dropped the DX build which was pretty obviously set for Survivor Series.

Have to agree with Xero here....it looked as if the RAW Creative Team had the build for Jerishow to take on DX for the tag titles down the road and then just suddenly dropped the idea out of no where and we get Show and Jericho thrown into the World Title mix...don't really understand the reasoning behind that.

Also like its not obvious that neither Shawn or Trips is going to go over on Cena as Survivor Series so where does that leave them between now and the Royal Rumble.....kinda out in limbo or in some quickly and poorly thrown together fued that equals sucktastic rating if you ask me.

[Xero]

Though thinking about it, it does keep them on a level playingfield with one another, both being in the top title matches for both brands.

But the rumor was that Shawn is winning the title at TLC (because it's in San Antonio), and unless that's changed (which, with the SSeries match, seems unlikely) I don't see it continuing. I think it's going to branch off to the DX breakup.

[parkmania]

Jericho and Show split up, and each takes a set of tag titles back to their respective show and are allowed to get a new partner. Cryme Tyme wins the belts off Jericho and a returning Lance Cade. Sexual Playas (MVP & Mark Henry) win the belts off Show and Random Stupid Choice #836.

[Fignuts]

They should reunite The Worlds Greatest Tag Team, since Jericho is constantly saying he and show are the greatest of all time.

Not like haas and benjamin are busy anyway.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Another case of the IWC never being satisfied. First people bitch that the tag titles aren't used properly, and now that they're featured prominently on both shows, it's getting stale.I hate all of you.

Ya know what, I wouldn't have had to bitch about anything had WWE not made an empty promise in a tag team turmoil match at New Year's Revolution '07, on January 7th, 2007, where Lilian Garcia clearly stipulated that the match was being contested for "a future World Tag Team Championship match", which never came to fruition, despite Cryme Tyme defeating The Highlanders, Benjaimin & Hass (The Self-Proclaimed World's Greatest Tag Team) and Duggan and Super Crazy, until 2 years, 8.5 months later, and even when they finally got their long-awaited title shot, they didn't win the titles. And I think that's one important stepping stone before any kind of talk of a CT breakup should even begin.

[wehavebensavedy2j]

Cryme Time
Hart Dynasty
MVP and Mark Henry

[Juan]

Ya know what, I wouldn't have had to bitch about anything had WWE not made an empty promise in a tag team turmoil match at New Year's Revolution '07, on January 7th, 2007, where Lilian Garcia clearly stipulated that the match was being contested for "a future World Tag Team Championship match", which never came to fruition, despite Cryme Tyme defeating The Highlanders, Benjaimin & Hass (The Self-Proclaimed World's Greatest Tag Team) and Duggan and Super Crazy, until 2 years, 8.5 months later, and even when they finally got their long-awaited title shot, they didn't win the titles. And I think that's one important stepping stone before any kind of talk of a CT breakup should even begin.

What does that have to do with what I said?

[Juan]

Plus, why do you always feel the need to show off your wrestling "knowledge". I fucking know that Benjamin and Haas were the World's Greatest Tag Team and I know that the fucking Undertaker is 17-0 at WrestleMania. Fuck you are such a tool.

[Hornicane]

But did you know that New Year's Revolution took place on January 7, 2007? Or that it was approximately 2 years, 8.5 months before Cryme Tyme got their title shot? What is a horse shoe? What does a horse shoe do? Are there horse socks? Is anyone listening to me?

[Fignuts]

I AM!

[GD]

Well they got the Summer Slam title shot because they defeated the reigning Champions Jericho and Show on an edition of Raw which was hosted by Shaquille.

[Droford]

No one's gonna say Zeke and Kozlov?

[Juan]

I think that's because no one wants Jackson and Kozlov as champs.

I liked Jackson when he was paired with TBK and even a little intrigued by him when he was moved to ECW, but ever since he started teaming with Kozlov I've found him incredibly boring.

[Juan]

Kozlov and Jackson are hands down the worst part of ECW

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was pretty confused when they dropped the DX build which was pretty obviously set for Survivor Series.

Likewise. It seemed like such an obvious match, and it's big enough to generate interest. It also saves Jericho and Taker's interaction. It's not like there wasn't anything else the WWE could have offered forth as "main event" matches, either.

CM Punk could have very easily cut a promo about how he wasn't pinned, and while Rey and Batista are doing their thing, Punk can face The Undertaker one last time in a Buried Alive Match. John Cena defeated Orton "once and for all" at Bragging Rights, but they still have issues. Cena and Kofi Kingston could have led a team also consisting of MVP, Mark Henry & Evan Bourne against Orton, Rhodes, DiBiase, The Miz & Jack Swagger. There's a RAW main event for ya. Throw in Batista vs. Rey Mysterio and John Morrison vs. Dolph Ziggler, and you've got yourself a good card shaping up.

What I find bizarre about the Triple Threats, though, is the symmetry between the challengers. You've essentially got two super teams challenging for the respective World Titles. I wonder if the WWE are just holding off on JeriShow vs. DX for TLC, and putting the Tag Titles on DX then, instead of giving Shawn Michaels the WWE Title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jericho and Show split up, and each takes a set of tag titles back to their respective show and are allowed to get a new partner. Cryme Tyme wins the belts off Jericho and a returning Lance Cade. Sexual Playas (MVP & Mark Henry) win the belts off Show and Random Stupid Choice #836.

I actually don't mind this idea, at all. While there is an upside to having the Tag Champs appearing on all shows, there is also something awkward about it. Lance Cade returning with Jericho makes perfect sense. Give them a good run together on SmackDown! before Cryme Tyme unseats them (that I could buy).

As for Big Show's partner? I've really got no clue, but Jack Swagger seems about as good a choice as any.

[DAMN iNATOR]

What does that have to do with what I said?

Apparently you know nothing of how rebuttals work. I pity you, sir.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm also for putting The World's Greatest Tag Team back together. Shelton Benjamin could be a singles star, and he really should be by now. Haas should have done more, too. But the fact is, they haven't achieved those goals. As a tag team, they actually have something of a legacy. Give them a few more years together, a few more title runs, and even a go as a face team (which they have never actually had), and I think they could be considered a "legendary tag team."

But then again, there is also the idea that the WWE hinted about at house shows of teaming up Mike Knox & Charlie Haas. Given how Haas is more of a focused, ruthless character right now, this team actually makes a bit of sense. It's not like Knox's singles career is sky-rocketing to the point where it would be a waste of him, either.

[Heyman]

So let's discuss who we think beats Jerishow for the Tag Team Titles and why? And also does anyone think the titles should stay unified or should WWE go back to Brand Respective Tag Titles and why?

My guess is Edge & Christian at some point.

[IrishBulldozer]

No one's gonna say Zeke and Kozlov?



Zeke and Kolov :wave:

[Londoner]

Another case of the IWC never being satisfied. First people bitch that the tag titles aren't used properly, and now that they're featured prominently on both shows, it's getting stale.I hate all of you.

lol Juan, calm down man. Its just people discussing opinions on the best way forward. You seem to take this shit to personally. What do you want exactly? For us to praise wwe all the time?

[Juan]

Yes that is exactly what I want.

[Londoner]

lol

[Indifferent Clox]

I really like that they've held the belts for so long. I say keep it that way till mania, then have a big tlc with DX v. Legacy v. Edge and Christian v. Jerishow
The MITB is different enough I suppose, but I guess if they are too similiar they could have that match at Royal Rumble or ELIMINATION CHAMBER or whatever.


Regardless, I think too many times nowadays titles don't get the 'push' or credibility they need simply because they get passed around so frequently. But the way the WWE has shortened are collective attention span we get antsy and complain about people holding titles too long. I wish that some team or person, not necessarily this team, but perhaps if Jerishow does split maybe Jericho could continually hold them for several teams or just at least another to make it be sort of a milestone in his career. But what i really want to see is someone hold a title for longer than a year again, maybe not a world title, maybe Regal as the ECW champion. Or Danielson as US or whatever.

[Jannettyzilla]

Did someone say Duggan and Super Crazy? What????? :wtf:

[Phenomenal 1]

I really like that they've held the belts for so long. I say keep it that way till mania, then have a big tlc with DX v. Legacy v. Edge and Christian v. Jerishow
The MITB is different enough I suppose, but I guess if they are too similiar they could have that match at Royal Rumble or ELIMINATION CHAMBER or whatever.


Regardless, I think too many times nowadays titles don't get the 'push' or credibility they need simply because they get passed around so frequently. But the way the WWE has shortened are collective attention span we get antsy and complain about people holding titles too long. I wish that some team or person, not necessarily this team, but perhaps if Jerishow does split maybe Jericho could continually hold them for several teams or just at least another to make it be sort of a milestone in his career. But what i really want to see is someone hold a title for longer than a year again, maybe not a world title, maybe Regal as the ECW champion. Or Danielson as US or whatever.

Does anyone not get the point that I put out in earlier in the month in the early WM predictions forum....Edge is out and Edge is out INDEFINATELY...he has been on numerous talk radio wrestling programs, done interview for wrestling mags, and interet wrestling webcasts and told people time and time again....that he has no potential progress that points to a after the first of the year return. Edge is out at least another 10-12 months at a minimum...He stated in one interview that his doctors have told him that even though his rehab is progressing, they are not inclined to give him a anticpiated return date and that he needs to contemplate possibly that he may not return to wrestling.

His interview that he did on SD right after it happened was not a worked shoot...He was telling the truth when he said he didn't know when and if he would come back and that his doctors have told him that they cannot recall any athlete ever coming back from an injury of this sorts.

Face it anything with E and C connection, Edge vs Jericho or Edge period for Mania or early 2010 is all bets off.

[DAMN iNATOR]

John Cena was supposed to be out for over a year after his last legit injury and he returned by Rumble time. If Vince and Edge both want it bad enough, Edge WILL be back by the Rumble in order to start feuding with Jericho leading up to WM 26.

Edge is already in therapy and rehab, getting back up to 100%. I see no reason why he will not be ready for a Royal Rumble return. And let's not forget, J.R. has said on his blog that he's noted the above fact himself after a recent phone conversation with Edge.

[starfox8500]

If they weren't building what seems to be a good feud with Orton, I would say Kofi and Bourne.

I'd love seeing their two high flying styles and I could see some comical promos come from it.

[Phenomenal 1]

I still can't see or get into Kofi vs Orton...Kofi just doesn't seem to have been built well enought to be over to work as a solidified main eventer with Orton. Yes he has been Intercontinental and United States Champion....but it seems as if WWE Creative through this together very quickly and rather poorly in my opinion, just giving Orton something to do until the Royal Rumble. I am starting to smell and regretting it if I am correct that I could see Randy Orton repeating as winner of the Royal Rumble to be in the main event at Mania.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Does anyone not get the point that I put out in earlier in the month in the early WM predictions forum....Edge is out and Edge is out INDEFINATELY...he has been on numerous talk radio wrestling programs, done interview for wrestling mags, and interet wrestling webcasts and told people time and time again....that he has no potential progress that points to a after the first of the year return. Edge is out at least another 10-12 months at a minimum...He stated in one interview that his doctors have told him that even though his rehab is progressing, they are not inclined to give him a anticpiated return date and that he needs to contemplate possibly that he may not return to wrestling.

His interview that he did on SD right after it happened was not a worked shoot...He was telling the truth when he said he didn't know when and if he would come back and that his doctors have told him that they cannot recall any athlete ever coming back from an injury of this sorts.

Face it anything with E and C connection, Edge vs Jericho or Edge period for Mania or early 2010 is all bets off.

I don't know anything about the injury Edge has, so maybe that is correct, but as someone else pointed out, John Cena and the WWE sort of worked the fans into thinking Cena was going to be out much longer than he was. Maybe the Rumble is a stretch, but only Edge really knows where Edge is right now. If/when he gets better, he gets better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

After reading the SmackDown! spoilers:

Kane saved The Undertaker from a JeriShow beat-down. I don't understand the purpose behind this -- unless they either turn the Triple Threat for the World Heavyweight Title into a Fatal 4-Way, or have The Brothers of Destruction re-unite for another run.

If Kane & The Undertaker get back together, they seem like a logical choice to be the next Unified WWE Tag Team Champions, and show up on whatever show they want, Chokeslamming the shit out of whoever. It'd be more star power for RAW, and it could be considered a thank you run to both Taker and Kane. If The Undertaker is still World Heavyweight Champion while this is going on, he'll essentially have three championship belts. I can't remember the last time someone in the WWE has ever done that -- if they ever have. That could be a good boost to Taker's legacy.

It'd also give Taker something else to do immediately, if they decided to take the World Heavyweight Title off him. Chris Jericho as World Heavyweight Champion, for example, is not something I would complain about.

[Phenomenal 1]

I don't think I can recall WWF or WWE during any tenior of the company having someone with all three of the major belts.....the only thing close to it that I can remember in recent times was not even WWE and it was Lance Storm in WCW and Kurt Angle in TNA.

[Phenomenal 1]

the closest I can remember is Shawn Michaels as WWF Champion and European Champion and Kurt Angle as the Euro-Continental Champion (Eurpopean Champion and IC Champion at the same time).

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Closest thing I can think of in WWE is the Two Man Power Trip holding the World, IC, and Tag Titles all at once.

[Phenomenal 1]

Supreme is right....thats closest WWE has ever done...they have never had a Triple Crown champion who has held the belts all at the same time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I was thinking that. I mean, Ultimo Dragon had a ton of belts when he showed up in WCW, Lance Storm did well for himself in WCW, and Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe had that horrible angle where they were feuding for even the World Tag Team Titles by themselves. But the closest the WWE has ever really done with one man is two title belts.

Although The Undertaker would only hold two technical championships; having three WWE belts on him at one time would be a first.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Supreme is right....thats closest WWE has ever done...they have never had a Triple Crown champion who has held the belts all at the same time.

Yeah, although (even though it's not being discussed, I feel the point needs to be made) there have been quite a few double champs who were WHC or WWE Champ + one of the tag belts, or the IC or US title...Benoit & Edge spring to mind from 2004.

[The Jayman]

wasn't Batista WHC during one of his and Rey's tag title run

[Phenomenal 1]

wasn't Batista WHC during one of his and Rey's tag title run

yes jayman...you are correct

[Mr. C]

I'd love to see a returning D-Lo Brown and Mark Henry team up as faces on RAW. Play off their history in the Nation of Domination together. They could also wear similar attire like Henry and MVP do now, with red singlets and black kneepads and boots. Imagine Henry tagging D-Lo in and delivering the World's Strongest Slam to one of their opponents before D-Lo comes off the top and connects with a Lo Down for the win. Also, don't forget to use D-Lo's theme for their entrance. Little nod to the Attitude Era, and they could easily get over with the crowd, both new and old fans.

MVP could be a singles star again and really should be too.

[el bobbo]

It seems like they are combining two main-eventers whenever possible, Kane/Undertaker, Jerishow, DX... so they can go against each other and "invade" different shows.

It makes a lot of sense because you get the star power on Monday and Friday night on two different networks. Almost makes me feel sorry for Hart's, Cryme Tyme, and whatever the fuck Carlito is doing these days.