Re: Verbose Minch Neg Rep On Playing Pirated Games

[Kalyx triaD]

I felt I should make this public rather than send Minch a PM on the matter.

I do not believe we are entitled to pirated products of any kind (movies, games, music). I've had many debates with my brother on the matter, as he's been an avid purchaser of pirated games. He has burned games into the high 50s, many of them I've enjoyed.

But I do not support them. I have never, in my fucking life, gave a dime to some pirate for any media. I aim to be a apart of the entertainment industry, it would be treacherous to partake in the under-hand market. These products cost money to make, then some bastard copies it on some blank disc and profits from another person's/team's work. This is wrong to me. BUT, I've played pirated games. Somehow, this makes me a hypocrite to some. Let's analyze this in ways most of you can understand:

Let's say I make a movie. It cost me $2,000 altogether. I print a mess of DVDs and aim to sell enough to make that money back and then some. I want the production, promotion, and distribution cost back to break even and then money on top to profit. This is how the entertainment industry works in a nutshell. Smart-asses, spare me the details.

Now let's say some techie with blank DVD-Rs buys one of my copies. He goes on to copy the movie on several blank DVDs and sell it for $1. The quality is on par, save for presentation issues, of course. I've been selling official copies for $10. Now while I believe most people would buy official, a great deal of potential customers are gonna go for the pirated deal. That's money out of my pocket and in to his, who had nothing to do with the production/promotion/distribution. He banks because he had a DVD burner. My creativity and production is his profit. If that isn't wrong to you, fuck off.

Now, my beef - as the fucking creator - would not be with whoever the purchaser of the pirated copy watches the movie with. Why would it be? Let's use logic, guys: That person has nothing to do with the spread of piracy. He/she made no orders or copies - I can care less if they're watching a pirated movie. I suppose you could wager that by them watching it, they'd be motivated not to buy it - but that's something I'd have to live with whether the movie's pirated or not. My gripe is the very real loss of money taking place by the pirate and his customers.

So how is me playing pirated games harming the developer/publisher when I'm pretty fucking sure I'm buying those games anyway?

Shit, I've brought games while my bro was getting burned copies back when I was working - so fuck that hypocrisy shit. Get the facts before calling shit, boys.

Discuss.

[Fignuts]

Question: Do you own these pirated copies that you are playing, or is it just stuff that your brother or friend brings you to play once and a while?

[Kalyx triaD]

I own none of them. Never owned any of them. Ever.

I stay with my bro and that's where I played them.

[Emperor Smeat]

Only flaw with your movie pirate argument is in the case of torrents where in theory you are a seeder and a leecher for any piece of media you want as a torrent due to the nature of how torrents work. So in a way, the leecher (customer) can end up as a seeder (seller) even before the torrent is over.

[Fignuts]

Well then you're fine.

Although I'm guessing the neg rep came from your "I don't endorse pirated games, I just play them." comment.

Can't really blame someone for misunderstanding that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Only flaw with your movie pirate argument is in the case of torrents where in theory you are a seeder and a leecher for any piece of media you want as a torrent due to the nature of how torrents work. So in a way, the leecher (customer) can end up as a seeder (seller) even before the torrent is over.

No, it's still fairly simple. What are you doing making your media free for mass download? YOu knew how it worked going in so yeah, the case is the same - just minus $ (which is kinda worse).

Well then you're fine.

Although I'm guessing the neg rep came from your "I don't endorse pirated games, I just play them." comment.

Can't really blame someone for misunderstanding that.

I can, because it didn't take much critical thinking to decipher. You just needed to verify but I'm betting you had it figured early on. I expect this much from everyone. So when they take the easy route and jump to conclusions, I'm disappointed.

But anyway, I wanted to make this much clear. Thanks for reading.

[Kane Knight]

So much drama.

[Disturbed316]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrg

[Ogen]

Its easily the dullest argument of all time. Piracy is clearly wrong but those that do it ( i.e me ) don't give a fuck really and will continue to enjoy our free media. I honestly can't say the last time I bought a film or cd. Probably buy about 3-4 games per year because chipping my X-Box seems like hard work.

[Kalyx triaD]

Piracy is clearly wrong but those that do it ( i.e me ) don't give a fuck really and will continue to enjoy our free media.

This upsets me, Ogen, but carry on.

[Kane Knight]

This upsets me, Ogen, but carry on.

And yet, you enjoy it as well. So who are you to preach about it?

[Verbose Minch]

I think you take neg rep too seriously.

I neg repped you because of your incredibly dumb statement of ''hurrdy durr i just play pirate games i dont support them''.

WHAT THE INTERNET THINKS OF ME MEANS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE

[Requiem]

I will be getting a job in the same industry that I pirate from, but whatever. I don't have money, and there are way too many products these days that are just not worth their price.

If I had money, I would probably buy a game on a console rather than download it on PC (if given the option of a multi-platform game). But really, I play too many games to warrant paying for all of them. Like, there is no way that I would be exposed to all the types of games that I have, if I had to pay for all of them. I would probably have never gotten as into gaming, honestly.

[Extreme Angle]

I have an elite for playing my real games and on live.
I do download games to play on a flashed xbox, if I like the game i'll buy it.

But i'm not paying £40 for a game which i'm going to hate.
Sure I could rent it but I only get the game for 2 days, plus it costs £4.
The ammount of free time I get now isn't great. So by downloading a copy of the game I cant get a good look at the game, play it when I want, if the game is awesome enough, it's worth a purchase.

[Juan]

lol drama queen

[G]

fuck the man!!!!!!

[Kane Knight]

I think you take neg rep too seriously.

I neg repped you because of your incredibly dumb statement of ''hurrdy durr i just play pirate games i dont support them''.

WHAT THE INTERNET THINKS OF ME MEANS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE

And really, his justification doesn't doesn't make it any less dumb. So he's justifying getting his panties wadded with something that sounds retarded in the first place.

[D Mac]

He can't tell us he's never downloaded a song in his entire life.

[Verbose Minch]

And really, his justification doesn't doesn't make it any less dumb. So he's justifying getting his panties wadded with something that sounds retarded in the first place.

I know. I really was surprised when I came on to find a thread dedicated to me because I neg repped him over an incredibly dumb statement.

Internet ego is all, I guess.

[Kane Knight]

I know. I really was surprised when I came on to find a thread dedicated to me because I neg repped him over an incredibly dumb statement.

Internet ego is all, I guess.

How does it feel to be Kane Knight for a day?

[Blue Demon]

How does it feel to be Kane Knight for a day?

Are you calling him a bitch?

[D Mac]

rofl

[Verbose Minch]

Are you calling him a bitch?

That's Queen Bitch to you!

[Kalyx triaD]

Every album I ever wanted I downloaded. My bro hates that about me so should I have him join this spot and say so?

And call it "Internet Ego" if you want. All I wanted to do was correct your ass, because I do that, I clarify things rather than let it ride. I should be able to do that without getting this shit. I don't know many that would go through such lengths to be clear about something. This thread isn't dedicated to you per se, but it's certainly not attacking you outright. I just wanted you to understand.

@ Extreme Angle: You have... an understandable way of doing things. You buy games eventually. But surely you have many sources to help you against buying a game you'd hate. It doesn't much time to research a game you're interested in, even with the little time you say you have. Nobody's asking you to pay 40 for a game you'd hate, though.

@ Requiem: You're not entitled to anything, really. No matter how many games the industry 'attacks' you with, you don't need to buy them all. It's not some uncontrollable urge that you need to get burns because you can't afford them.

@ Kane: I just made myself pretty clear on where I stand. Ogen supports it, I don't. Big difference there.

[Kalyx triaD]

And where else but here can I discuss shit like this without someone pulling the 'tldr/taking it too serious' card? It's fairly condensed and a quick read. Should I accept misunderstandings and not explain myself in a clear way? Sorry if it's longer than the usual post but fuck that - it's a message board for fuck sake. This is another discussion I'll have another day because this sort of thing urks me wild.

[Verbose Minch]

It wasn't directed at me? My name is in the title, and it's about my neg rep towards you.

You're gay. That wasn't directed at you though, it was directed at all homosexuals.

[Kalyx triaD]

It wasn't directed at me? My name is in the title, and it's about my neg rep towards you.

You're gay. That wasn't directed at you though, it was directed at all homosexuals.

But you said, "You're gay." Surely you see the difference...

If I wanted all this directed at you I'd PM you. I've done it with other posters, can't see why I wouldn't do it now. You want your name off the thread title? Is that... a problem with you?

[Verbose Minch]

No, I don't have a problem with it. I just find it hilarious that you have to make a thread about my neg rep, and then after that pm me because you're so upset about it. Do you want a shoulder to sob on? Seriously, stop whining. You made a dumb statement, I called you on it. End of. This thread shouldn't have been made.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not "upset", frustrated. And have been frustrated with this place for a while now over similar things like this. A lot of you seem against the idea of 'talking it out'.

[Verbose Minch]

I don't think you understand why I neg repped you. I'll run it down for you.

You know what the statement was. You said you just played the games, but didn't support piracy. Supporting piracy isn't just giving some guy off the street a buck for a ripped dvd. Piracy is torrenting, downloading, whatever. Playing pirated games? That's supporting it. I know piracy isn't right, I torrent music. Shoot me. However, saying you don't support piracy yet you play the games is dumb.

Why don't you just delete the thread?

[Kalyx triaD]

You know what the statement was. You said you just played the games, but didn't support piracy. Supporting piracy isn't just giving some guy off the street a buck for a ripped dvd. Piracy is torrenting, downloading, whatever.

None of which I've done. I literally just play what my brother gets. He doesn't get games 'for me' nor do I order through his contact. I don't DL the freely distributed files either. My actions don't move the pirate market in any way, shape or form. Your logic fails so far, but I'm eager to hear your continued take.

Why don't you just delete the thread?

Not happening, this shit needs to be documented.

I like the, "You're guilty too" thought process so far. It's an educational read, how you seem to be rationalizing it. Also of note is how you not only decline discussing it in private (after you clearly express your dislike for this public thread), you call it harassing. Seems like you were not inclined to explain yourself at all (and I see why now).

Maybe the usual action would be for me to take the neg rep and call it a day. I thought I was being progressive with making a discussion out of it, and some of you received it well, but calling me out - not on the topic but merely making it a topic - is pretty weak in my eyes. Everything should be up for discussion.

[Super V]

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[Kalyx triaD]

Super V's so cute. You still have an ass beating a-comin.

[Verbose Minch]

None of which I've done. I literally just play what my brother gets. He doesn't get games 'for me' nor do I order through his contact. I don't DL the freely distributed files either. My actions don't move the pirate market in any way, shape or form. Your logic fails so far, but I'm eager to hear your continued take.


You still play it. Not supporting piracy is not playing pirated games, or downloading music, or anything.

I'm sure this thread will make you feel good or whatever. Maybe you get some moral victory out of it, I dunno. I'm going to bed, you can keep typing out paragraphs over a neg rep. I'll even say you won this ''argument''. What there was to argue, I don't know, but whatever.

Hope you sleep well now that this is over. :)

[Kalyx triaD]

Thank you.

[Kane Knight]

@ Kane: I just made myself pretty clear on where I stand. Ogen supports it, I don't. Big difference there.

You do support it. You're like a Senator who seeks to block gay rights because gays are bad, but gets caught sucking cock in a men's room at the airport. You're against piracy except when you're playing pirated games.

But you said, "You're gay." Surely you see the difference...

If I wanted all this directed at you I'd PM you. I've done it with other posters, can't see why I wouldn't do it now. You want your name off the thread title? Is that... a problem with you?

You can mean a single person or a group. Besides, using your tortured logic, I'd still think your title and whining came down on a single focus.

[Fignuts]

@ Requiem: You're not entitled to anything, really. No matter how many games the industry 'attacks' you with, you don't need to buy them all. It's not some uncontrollable urge that you need to get burns because you can't afford them.



Either he's not going to buy the game and never play it, because he doesn't have the money, or he is going to play a burned copy.

Either way the game industry doesn't get his money. So whatever.

Also, I don't see how you can act all high and mighty about other people pirating games when you say you've downloaded every album you ever wanted.

[Kane Knight]

Either he's not going to buy the game and never play it, because he doesn't have the money, or he is going to play a burned copy.

Either way the game industry doesn't get his money. So whatever.

Also, I don't see how you can act all high and mighty about other people pirating games when you say you've downloaded every album you ever wanted.

It's okay when I do it.

Get the facts before calling shit, boys.

[Kalyx triaD]

Every album I ever wanted I downloaded. My bro hates that about me so should I have him join this spot and say so?

Meant to say, "purchased." Makes more sense in context, yes? Had a brain dead moment there. I also wrote throw as 'through' somewhere else. Forgive these momentary lapse of function.

Other than that, point stands.

[Kane Knight]

So wait...Your brother hates that you buy your music? That still sounds fucked up.

[The Mackem]

I'm tempted to throw this into the discussion forum.

[Kalyx triaD]

So wait...Your brother hates that you buy your music? That still sounds fucked up.

He used to 'tempt' me when something I like comes around and he'd find the torrent or whatever and ask me to, "Say the word." I stopped downloading singles as well since he mentioned the advent of single track markets. I pretty much find tracks on YouTube and favorite them or something.

If it makes you guys feel better, and make me look less like a soulless robot, I have downloaded every WWE Music CD ever released - half of them I never purchased officially prior. I do this on purpose, because I want to steal from Vince McMahon.

[Kane Knight]

He used to 'tempt' me when something I like comes around and he'd find the torrent or whatever and ask me to, "Say the word." I stopped downloading singles as well since he mentioned the advent of single track markets. I pretty much find tracks on YouTube and favorite them or something.

If it makes you guys feel better, and make me look less like a soulless robot, I have downloaded every WWE Music CD ever released - half of them I never purchased officially prior. I do this on purpose, because I want to steal from Vince McMahon.

*facedesk*

[Requiem]

I'll let Kane Knight do the face desking, as to protect my own face from said face desking.

[Kane Knight]

I'll let Kane Knight do the face desking, as to protect my own face from said face desking.

I'd argue, but my face is rated to 30 FDUs.

[D Mac]

Meant to say, "purchased." Makes more sense in context, yes? Had a brain dead moment there. I also wrote throw as 'through' somewhere else. Forgive these momentary lapse of function.



Yeah, I don't believe it.

[Big Fat Mike]

I didnt read the thread but here goes. If you can't afford to play video games, then don't. If you feel the need to steal in order to get your fix, then I'm pretty sure you need a new(cheaper) hobby.

[Kane Knight]

I didnt read the thread but here goes. If you can't afford to play video games, then don't. If you feel the need to steal in order to get your fix, then I'm pretty sure you need a new(cheaper) hobby.

Kalyx claims he doesn't pirate the games.

also, with few exceptions, the theft argument is retarded.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, I don't believe it.

That doesn't have a bearing on reality. I mean... why would I lie? I've been honest about zanier shit.

[Requiem]

I didnt read the thread but here goes. If you can't afford to play video games, then don't. If you feel the need to steal in order to get your fix, then I'm pretty sure you need a new(cheaper) hobby.

Yeah really not the same thing.

Regardless, Nah.

[Big Fat Mike]

Kalyx claims he doesn't pirate the games.

also, with few exceptions, the theft argument is retarded.

Is it retarded? Because you said so?

[Kane Knight]

Is it retarded? Because you said so?

It's less "because I say so" and more because it's not theft. Redefining things to make them sound more serious is a great way to garner support for your cause, but that doesn't make it true. Saying "speeding=murder" might stop some people from doing ten over, but that doesn't mean speeding actually equals murder.

[The Mackem]

In the movie Speed, speeding equals safety.

[El Fangel]

There are way too many products these days that are just not worth their price.

[The Mackem]

That's the way the world works.

[Kalyx triaD]

As a concept, Speed would never work with today's overly critical movie audience.

[BigDaddyCool]

Speed kills but I'm still alive.

[Kalyx triaD]

Remember Speed 2: Cruise Control? What the fuck?

[Kane Knight]

There are way too many products these days that are just not worth their price.

I'm still surprised anyone thinks this is a reasonable defense.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not, but people who say it have that unwarranted entitlement thing. A key signature of gamers.

[BigDaddyCool]

There are way too many products these days that are just not worth their price.

I'm still surprised anyone thinks this is a reasonable defense.

I saw it, just didn't care.

[Fryza]

If you play burned games, then you are supporting piracy.

It's hand-in-hand...

[Kalyx triaD]

If you play burned games, then you are supporting piracy.

It's hand-in-hand...

If I told a 'pirate' I enjoyed playing a game he burned on a disc, making sure he knew I didn't actually buy it, I'm betting he wouldn't say, "Thanks for helping me out." In fact, he'd ask where I got the disc for free and probably ban that contact. The entire aim is to make money not "put smiles on people's faces".

[Fryza]

If I told a 'pirate' I enjoyed playing a game he burned on a disc, making sure he knew I didn't actually buy it, I'm betting he wouldn't say, "Thanks for helping me out." In fact, he'd ask where I got the disc for free and probably ban that contact. The entire aim is to make money not "put smiles on people's faces".

Not all bootleggers sell pirated things. If a friend or family member does it, and you get the copy, you're supporting piracy. You didn't pay anything for it, no rental charges, etc.

It's still piracy man. I'm not condemning you, I'm just saying.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not all bootleggers sell pirated things. If a friend or family member does it, and you get the copy, you're supporting piracy. You didn't pay anything for it, no rental charges, etc.

It's still piracy man. I'm not condemning you, I'm just saying.

Oh well with that clarification, "Yo ho ho and barrel of ROMs".

[BigDaddyCool]

See, Kalyx is all for not paying for video games and double taxing the companies that make it because he thinks they can afford it.

[Kalyx triaD]

See, Kalyx is all for not paying for video games and double taxing the companies that make it because he thinks they can afford it.

Spoken like a true Republican. Optional facts and all.

[BigDaddyCool]

So what is your position on this? You are saying it is ok for you to play on a pirated disk because you didn't pirate it, but instead your brother did and he lives with you, so you don't need to go out and buy the actual game because you already own it?

[Requiem]

Yeah what? You are still supporting piracy by playing a game that was not purchased. Doesn't matter if you downloaded it, or if someone else downloaded it and you are just reaping the benefits.

You are still choosing not to purchase a game because you are using a non-legitimate copy.

[Kalyx triaD]

So what is your position on this? You are saying it is ok for you to play on a pirated disk because you didn't pirate it, but instead your brother did and he lives with you, so you don't need to go out and buy the actual game because you already own it?

Thanks for asking.

I don't own shit, it's his games. Of course I'd buy the games. And I have when presented the option. My bro would come over and boast about his "5 games for 25$ shipment" and rib me for spending 60$ on one of those games. He pleaded that I leave him the same amount of money with a list of "whatever I wanted". I refused. He had a hook-up ready to mod my old Xbox for free which I refused. All 6 or 7 times he asked.

[BigDaddyCool]

But you played the pirated games?

[Kalyx triaD]

You are still choosing not to purchase a game because you are using a non-legitimate copy.

That's never been documented. I'd still buy the games, see above post.

[Kalyx triaD]

But you played the pirated games?

Yep. After I moved in with the fam when I lost the apartment.

[BigDaddyCool]

Yep. After I moved in with the fam when I lost the apartment.

Playing pirated games is supporting piracy. Simple as that.

[Kalyx triaD]

Playing pirated games is supporting piracy. Simple as that.

Fine I'll stop.

[BigDaddyCool]

Well still at one point in your life you supported pirated video games.

[Kalyx triaD]

Well still at one point in your life you supported pirated video games.

Who gives a shit. Redemption is one of the four principles of our justice philosophy. "Once a thief, always a thief" is childish and irrational.

[BigDaddyCool]

Who gives a shit. Redemption is one of the four principles of our justice philosophy. "Once a thief, always a thief" is childish and irrational.

No...just realistic.

[BigDaddyCool]

Plus it hasn't even been 10 minutes since you swore off them. It has been 3 days since I stopped smoking, you don't seem me claiming redemption yet.

[Kane Knight]

I saw it, just didn't care.

I didn't say I was surprised nobody saw it. I was surprised that not one, but two people used it as a justification.

If I told a 'pirate' I enjoyed playing a game he burned on a disc, making sure he knew I didn't actually buy it, I'm betting he wouldn't say, "Thanks for helping me out." In fact, he'd ask where I got the disc for free and probably ban that contact. The entire aim is to make money not "put smiles on people's faces".

You're tying yourself down with minutia. And utterly missing the point in the process.

Spoken like a true Republican. Optional facts and all.

But you're doing the same.

Thanks for asking.

I don't own shit, it's his games. Of course I'd buy the games. And I have when presented the option. My bro would come over and boast about his "5 games for 25$ shipment" and rib me for spending 60$ on one of those games. He pleaded that I leave him the same amount of money with a list of "whatever I wanted". I refused. He had a hook-up ready to mod my old Xbox for free which I refused. All 6 or 7 times he asked.

It doesn't matter whose games. You're playing them. And seriously, all this pleading and hating? Really hard to believe.

[Kalyx triaD]

You don't know my bro and I wouldn't embellish. My lil bro's like a gamer BDC.

[BigDaddyCool]

A gamer like BDC? What does that mean? BDC doesn't buy pirated games. Only pirated adobe photoshop.

[Kalyx triaD]

A gamer like BDC? What does that mean? BDC doesn't buy pirated games. Only pirated adobe photoshop.

You remind me of him, not in specific actions. You two have similar dispositions, simplified outlooks on life.

When was the last time you played a pirated game that you had not purchased prior to that play session, nor did you purchase after that play session?

3 days ago, Borderlands co-op with my bro.

[Requiem]

I deleted that post because I had not yet decided how I wanted to word it. But you answered how I intended regardless.

Do you and your brother live in separate homes?

[Kalyx triaD]

I deleted that post because I had not yet decided how I wanted to word it. But you answered how I intended regardless.

Do you and your brother live in separate homes?

Same house.

[Kalyx triaD]

Unemployed, single, Criminal Justice Major, and I love Chinese food.

[Requiem]

Then you are supporting piracy. It's one thing to go to your buddy's house and sit down and play his games with or without the knowledge that they were pirated.

It's another to sit down in your own home and play games that a family member pirated (or bought illegally).

Seriously don't get why you are so up in arms about it. That is pretty much the main thing that makes it 'just as bad'. Because you act like it is some offense that you be grouped into that, yet you will still play a pirated game as long as it isn't yours.

[BigDaddyCool]

You remind me of him, not in specific actions. You two have similar dispositions, simplified outlooks on life

Simplified how? You mean we simply our outlooks by not over complicating matters and trying to justify away how using stolen/pirated software is ok because we weren't the ones to pirate it?

[Kalyx triaD]

Then you are supporting piracy. It's one thing to go to your buddy's house and sit down and play his games with or without the knowledge that they were pirated.

It's another to sit down in your own home and play games that a family member pirated (or bought illegally).

Seriously don't get why you are so up in arms about it. That is pretty much the main thing that makes it 'just as bad'. Because you act like it is some offense that you be grouped into that, yet you will still play a pirated game as long as it isn't yours.

Okay. Don't know if you've been paying attention but I quit as of a few posts ago (via BDC's incursion).

I'll play DMC4, Tekken 6, Soulcalibur 4, and Modern Warfare 2 from now on - all legit copies. Good to go. Thanks.

[BigDaddyCool]

But the problem is you just agreed to do that, history is not on your side right now.

[Kalyx triaD]

But the problem is you just agreed to do that, history is not on your side right now.

It's in the past, I'm square with that. What do you want to happen now?

[BigDaddyCool]

I want you to build a history of being honest about supporting piracy or not using pirated games. By saying right now you won't use pirated games again, there is a lot of hope, but not much material evidence to back that up. I'll give you the time to build it up.

[Kalyx triaD]

I want you to build a history of being honest about supporting piracy or not using pirated games. By saying right now you won't use pirated games again, there is a lot of hope, but not much material evidence to back that up. I'll give you the time to build it up.

How would I "build it up"? I could be lying for all you know. I said "I'm done," I'm done. It's as simple as that. Like when I stopped downloading music. It's not nicotine for fuck sake.

[Kane Knight]

You don't know my bro and I wouldn't embellish. My lil bro's like a gamer BDC.

Bald, retarded, and a tranny lover?

3 days ago, Borderlands co-op with my bro.

So...Well after you started bitching about how you don't support piracy.

Okay. Don't know if you've been paying attention but I quit as of a few posts ago (via BDC's incursion).

I'll play DMC4, Tekken 6, Soulcalibur 4, and Modern Warfare 2 from now on - all legit copies. Good to go. Thanks.

Well, you seem honest enough. I'll just pretend the backtracking, retconning, and justification from this thread never happened because you claim you've quit now.

Look, nobody really cares that you're enjoying pirated games. Nobody here, anyway. It's just the utterly pretentious way you've handled yourself in justifying how you really didn't because you didn't pay for the pirated games...You just play them....Makes you look like an industrial strength douche. Like, clox-strength douche.

[BigDaddyCool]

I've kicked the addition of nicotine. It is the mental addiction that is harder. I quit smoking, but when I'm around people that smoke, I want to smoke. Also I've only quit for 3 days so far. That doesn't mean a thing.

Anyhow, I'm tired of trying to explain to you why you are a bitch.

[BigDaddyCool]

Look, nobody really cares that you're enjoying pirated games. Nobody here, anyway. It's just the utterly pretentious way you've handled yourself in justifying how you really didn't because you didn't pay for the pirated games...You just play them....Makes you look like an industrial strength douche. Like, clox-strength douche.
Yeah, that is pretty much what I was trying to get at, but I'm too retarded to string the right words together.

[Kalyx triaD]

When I remake this thread in a year you guys are fucked. I'm gonna so clean then.

[BigDaddyCool]

How will we be fucked? Because you won't be a hypocrit by then, and we will all still not really care?

[Kalyx triaD]

Yes.

[BigDaddyCool]

Well good luck with that.

[G]

on one hand, i would love to have a modded 360 with all the free games i want.

on the other, i don't appreciate the downloaded wii games, dreamcast games and ds roms i have. i am not even motivated to play them. if i would have payed for them, then i know i would play them.

[Verbose Minch]

When I remake this thread in a year you guys are fucked. I'm gonna so clean then.

So will history before it be the same too? I don't want to neg rep you again. :(

[Kalyx triaD]

So will history before it be the same too? I don't want to neg rep you again. :(

Nah. It's all good.

[Kane Knight]

When I remake this thread in a year you guys are fucked. I'm gonna so clean then.

Boy, will our faces be red in a year, when you bring up a topic people don't care about now to insist you've changed.

[Boondock Saint]

Italics.