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Heyman
11-28-2009, 12:58 AM
DISCUSSION - CM Punk should become the leader of an nWo-sized stable that promotes...

The straight edge lifestyle and philosophy. Just as was the case with the nWo, it would be so 'badass', that it would be cool.....cool to the point where kids/fans would eventually dig it up because they "aren't supposed to want to" (if that makes sense). I would absolutely love it if CM Punk became the leader of an nWo-sized stable that promoted the straight edge lifestyle and philosophy. As was the case with Hollywood Hogan, make CM Punk the #1 guy. Somehow someway, make him a UNIFIED WWE/World champion in the not-so-distant future. Have CM Punk appear on both shows and have him have 'stable mates/followers' on both shows. The biggest stars in the company all "symbolized" something extremely significant in our society. Guys like Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, and Randy Savage all symbolized "the good guy" that were honorable, etc. Guys like Austin, The Rock, etc 'symbolized' the cocky badass that didn't take shit from no one. While I realize that all these guys symbolized these things as faces, I think it would be GREAT if Punk, as a heel, and the clear cut #1 guy in the company, became a SYMBOL for the straight edge life style.

Here is what else would be achieved with an angle life this:


Guys with crappy or 'generic' gimmicks that aren't doing much in the WWE (i.e. Festus), can join the 'Straight Edge' stable and become relevant by association
Just as we saw during the attitude era with the Corporation, each and every segment on televised shows can mean "that much more" due to a representative of 'Straight Edge' being in a match.
It allows CM Punk to become the clear-cut #1 guy in the company. None of this gay 'transitional' world champion title runs bullshit. This would be the equivalent of Hogan leading the n.W.o...or Austin leading the alliance.


Hell - even Vince McMahon can endorse this stable (although by no means am I suggesting that he be a part of the stable). This idea not only pushes CM Punk to the absolute moon, but it also cleverly makes EVERY single character in the WWE relevant somehow. If you're a guy like Kofi Kingston and are already over with the fans?! GREAT! If you're a dickhead like...oh I dunno....Paul Burchill and aren't over in the slightest? Become part of the 'Straight Edge' stable and where the colors. The Staight Edge stable can do stuff like attacking wrestlers backstage for drinking beer (i.e. celebrating victories, etc.), or dating women, etc., etc.

Skippord
11-28-2009, 01:06 AM
I'd like it

not sure how much others would though

Xero
11-28-2009, 01:10 AM
Good concept for a stable.

That said, there should never be another huge stable in wrestling the size of the nWo. It was a terrible idea and fucked up the booking.

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 01:11 AM
Heyman Ilove you but please, stop. lol.

Let it be what it is, and see where it goes. And don't make awful threads like this about it.


But you damned well know I'll still take your dick in my mouth any day of the week ;)

Evil Vito
11-28-2009, 01:19 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Technically, nothing should EVER be nWo-sized because that would mean like 15-20 people, which is insane. However, I'd love to see Punk and Gallows (or someone else) win the tag belts, and then use their ability to float between brands to "recruit" more people. Take 1 or 2 guys (depending on who isn't being utilized) from each show or something. It'd be a big group, but not nWo proportions.</font>

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 01:24 AM
lol how is this even being talked about. Thus far, all we have is essentially a Tomko to Punk's Christian. I swear, I hate wrestling fans so much :rant:

(Well not really, but seriously please stop :()

Evil Vito
11-28-2009, 01:42 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I dunno, Punk leading a straight edge stable is something that has been loosely talked about in Punk topics for months...it makes sense to have a proper discussion now that they have Punk properly converting people. And to be fair, he DID strongly hint that there will be more to come.</font>

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 01:44 AM
Yeah that's fine. It's more... the whole nWo thing just aggrivates me. It's just started, let it go for a couple of weeks before we start making ridiculous comparisons.

Heyman
11-28-2009, 01:47 AM
Good concept for a stable.

That said, there should never be another huge stable in wrestling the size of the nWo. It was a terrible idea and fucked up the booking.

Maybe it doesn't have to be the size of the n.W.o, but I'd like to see a huge number nonetheless (i.e. like the # of members in the Alliance from 01'?).

Think about the times when the WWE and WCE had some of their highest ratings:

-The Corporation
-nWo
-Corporate Ministry
-McMahon Helmsley Faction

Even in 2004 when Evolution were the clear cut #1 stable in the company, ratings started to increase. In 2001 after the INVASION angle after the Alliance lost at Survivor Series, ratings start to decline drastically.

I think in terms of shooting Punk to the moon and getting an initial JOLT in the ratings, a formation of a huge stable could be a catalyst (regardless of how much Georgous Dale Jewstead hates my idea. :p)

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 01:51 AM
I don't hate your idea persay. But it's so damned specific. You make it seem so unoriginal. Let it be it's own thing.

Heyman
11-28-2009, 01:54 AM
<font color=goldenrod> It'd be a big group, but not nWo proportions.</font>

Good post and some good thoughts. I was thinking that the more people there were, then the more CM Punk could be made to look as significant a leader as Hogan and Austin were for the nWo and Alliance respectively.

The ultimate purpose of an idea like this would be to REALLY establish CM Punk as the legitimate #1 guy in the company. In today's WWE, being a World champion doesn't mean a whole lot, unless it's CLEAR that you are the #1 guy in the company.

I think the WWE has a great chance to do something special with CM Punk. Like Hogan and Austin did during their respective era's, the WWE has a golden chance to make CM Punk become a SYMBOL for something. SYMBOLS are what brings in new fans, audiences, and demographics.

Heyman
11-28-2009, 01:59 AM
I don't hate your idea persay. But it's so damned specific. You make it seem so unoriginal. Let it be it's own thing.

I see what you're saying, but it's also absurd to try and make something too unique (to the point where it sucks donkey balls and makes no sense) out of fear that it resembles an idea or a concept of the past. Sometimes - the winning formula is to keep things simple and go with what has PROVEN to be successful.

So what if a large 'Straight Edge' stable would be similar to nWo in terms of numbers?

Fans have always loved large badass stables that are the centerpiece of the company. At a time when the WWE could use a jolt with the ratings, why not go with something like that? Why automatically dismiss something because something somewhat similar was done in the past? Yes - there's a danger of "going to the well" one too many times, but this idea wouldn't be anything near that....since it's been so long since we have seen a big ass stable.

Perry Saturn
11-28-2009, 02:07 AM
However if this stable did come about i could almost guarantee that they would fued with DX due to the antics of DX

jerichoholicninja
11-28-2009, 02:14 AM
This would also fit into the PG WWE.

Emperor Smeat
11-28-2009, 02:27 AM
A stable the size similar to Attitude Era stables or early NWO could work as long as it doesn't grow past 6-8 guys. It would defiantly work better without the brand split since the split means either you need those wrestlers appearing on the main shows or split them into a Raw and Smackdown version but with Punk as the main leader.

Droford
11-28-2009, 02:32 AM
Straight Edge Alliance

I cant think of any better names..boo

SammyG
11-28-2009, 04:58 AM
Kinda reminds me of Right to Censor

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 08:48 AM
It's like Right to Censor with a little more of an edge (pardon the awful, awful pun)

Lock Jaw
11-28-2009, 10:36 AM
Kinda reminds me of Right to Censor

Sixx
11-28-2009, 11:15 AM
Virgil is the only man in the world that would guarantee success for that stable.

Nark Order
11-28-2009, 11:18 AM
It wouldn't really be like Right ot Censor at all if they do it right. I'm in favor of such an idea but agree with most everyone else that an nWo sized stable was, is, and will forever be such an awful idea.

FourFifty
11-28-2009, 11:21 AM
Make it five people at most including some sort of diva.
Punk
Festus
The Burchills
Someone else

Nark Order
11-28-2009, 11:24 AM
Preferrably guys that say they used to have some sort of "vice" holding them back. (ie: Former drug addicts, alcoholics, chain smokers)

RatedGSuperstar
11-28-2009, 11:27 AM
Ideally, they would only need to add a couple more guys to expand the group to 4, and have them compete in the tag division. Or they could reunite the "Jesse and Festus" tag team by "cleaning up" Slam Master J (have his vice be alcohol when he was Jesse, progressing to something worse that made him act like Slam Master J) and add another guy who could go after the IC title.

I guess one positive of this group is that it would be an outlet to fix horrible gimmicks. Another is that it's happening on Smackdown, and not Raw, where Punk would inevitably trot out a clean, articulate Hornswaggle that's no longer on speed.

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-28-2009, 01:06 PM
I like it because it takes away the annoying cartoon element. That's why it could be better than RTC even though RTC had some big time heel heat... cuz RTC just had that ridiculous cartoon element.

Vince needs to realize that we're not in the 80s anymore.

Nicky Fives
11-28-2009, 01:41 PM
I think its a great idea.... but limit the size of the stable to a max 6 superstars

CM Punk (the leader)
Festus (the Bodyguard)
A Diva (Straight-Edge 'eye candy')
A Tag Team
A second-tier singles star

As mentioned above, The Burchills could fit into the diva & second singles star, but I believe they could use some guys/girls in developmental to fill the void (maybe even Curt Hawkins, they could have him feud with Ryder because of his "Long Island partying" ways)

Swiss Ultimate
11-28-2009, 02:09 PM
DISCUSSION - CM Punk should become the leader of an nWo-sized stable that promotes...

The straight edge lifestyle and philosophy. Just as was the case with the nWo, it would be so 'badass', that it would be cool.....cool to the point where kids/fans would eventually dig it up because they "aren't supposed to want to" (if that makes sense). I would absolutely love it if CM Punk became the leader of an nWo-sized stable that promoted the straight edge lifestyle and philosophy. As was the case with Hollywood Hogan, make CM Punk the #1 guy. Somehow someway, make him a UNIFIED WWE/World champion in the not-so-distant future. Have CM Punk appear on both shows and have him have 'stable mates/followers' on both shows. The biggest stars in the company all "symbolized" something extremely significant in our society. Guys like Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Bret Hart, and Randy Savage all symbolized "the good guy" that were honorable, etc. Guys like Austin, The Rock, etc 'symbolized' the cocky badass that didn't take shit from no one. While I realize that all these guys symbolized these things as faces, I think it would be GREAT if Punk, as a heel, and the clear cut #1 guy in the company, became a SYMBOL for the straight edge life style.

Here is what else would be achieved with an angle life this:


Guys with crappy or 'generic' gimmicks that aren't doing much in the WWE (i.e. Festus), can join the 'Straight Edge' stable and become relevant by association
Just as we saw during the attitude era with the Corporation, each and every segment on televised shows can mean "that much more" due to a representative of 'Straight Edge' being in a match.
It allows CM Punk to become the clear-cut #1 guy in the company. None of this gay 'transitional' world champion title runs bullshit. This would be the equivalent of Hogan leading the n.W.o...or Austin leading the alliance.


Hell - even Vince McMahon can endorse this stable (although by no means am I suggesting that he be a part of the stable). This idea not only pushes CM Punk to the absolute moon, but it also cleverly makes EVERY single character in the WWE relevant somehow. If you're a guy like Kofi Kingston and are already over with the fans?! GREAT! If you're a dickhead like...oh I dunno....Paul Burchill and aren't over in the slightest? Become part of the 'Straight Edge' stable and where the colors. The Staight Edge stable can do stuff like attacking wrestlers backstage for drinking beer (i.e. celebrating victories, etc.), or dating women, etc., etc.

I'd prefer it to be Raven's Flock-sized as opposed to NWO-sized.

Heyman
11-28-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm in favor of such an idea but agree with most everyone else that an nWo sized stable was, is, and will forever be such an awful idea.

After thinking about this a little more last night, I think I might agree (my thought process last night was that the greater the number of 'henchmen', the more prominent and significant that CM Punk would look). I also figured that a stable that was the size of nWo and the alliance, would subconsciously make the fans believe that Punk was as "big" as Hogan and Austin.

I then realized that if the stable was TOO big (i.e. nWo sized), then it would make any heel OUTSIDE a straight edge stable look almost "insignificant."

Therefore - I wouldn't mind seeing a stable like this be the size of Vince McMahon's Corporation/Corporate Ministry from back in the day.

It would still be large in number (to the point where it could make Punk would look prominent like Triple H, Vince, and Taker did when they lead those stables), but it also wouldn't completely "engulf" the WWE like the nWo did with WCW.

Ultimately - I LOVE this idea for 2 simple reasons:


It helps establish CM Punk as THE #1 guy in the company.
Anyone that has a crappy gimmick or isn't doing much (i.e. Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Carlitto), can just join this 'Straight Edge' stable and can be made "relevant by association" (i.e. just like Mideon sort of was during the Corporate Ministry days).


Personally if it was me, I would consider REALLY building up Punk's stable between now and Mania. It was almost look like 'Agent Smith' in Matrix 2 and 3 when he was cloning himself. At Wrestlemania, have CM Punk win MITB match....by actually having 1 or even 2 contestants within the match itself help Punk (surprise turn).

After the main-event (i.e. Triple H defeating Shawn Michaels), have Punk's music hit. All of Punk's followers come out, dressed in business suits and shades (i.e. lining up similar to how Undertaker's 'druids' are when Undertaker comes out), and then watch as CM Punk comes out to cash in on his MITB right THEN AND THERE. Punk then wins the match.

It's a nutty and farfetched idea but if the WWE ever needed a jolt in the ass, this would be it.

The fans could REALLY see this stable being drastically built up between now and Mania where it would ultimately culminate in the main-event.

Swiss Ultimate
11-28-2009, 03:29 PM
I wanna see another Matt Hardy heel turn...with him joining CM Punk's stable.

Nicky Fives
11-28-2009, 03:35 PM
I wanna see another Matt Hardy heel turn...with him joining CM Punk's stable.

That could work.... and maybe even make me give a rat's-ass about Matt too!

Heyman
11-28-2009, 03:35 PM
At this point, I'm not sure if Matt Hardy joining Punk's stable would make much sense (since they have been battling for quite some time if I understand correctly). Also - Matt Hardy seems to be 'over' enough to survive without being associated with a 'Straight Edge' stable.

As far as some other responses go, I think a stable like this would be a HYBRID between

-nWo/Corporation/Alliance
-Evolution
-Right To Censor

It could be similar to nWo/Corporation/Alliance in terms of potential members (i.e. maybe a bit more than Vince's Corporation but not as much as Alliance/nWo).

It could be similar to Evolution in that they would wear business suits and shades (only dark business suits....think Agent Smith from Matrix)

It could be similar to 'Right To Censor' in terms of them telling us (and other wrestlers) how to live our lives while also being hypocritical in nature.

Favre4Ever
11-28-2009, 05:20 PM
lol i was about to say, it would be just like Right to Censor except with an actual Upper Card talent.

Droford
11-28-2009, 05:48 PM
Make it five people at most including some sort of diva.
Punk
Festus
The Burchills
Someone else

the Diva is Mickie James. She used to be..um..promiscuous..and now shes not..and she's fat too because she doesn't take diet drugs.

Swiss Ultimate
11-28-2009, 06:01 PM
the Diva is Mickie James. She used to be..um..promiscuous..and now shes not..and she's fat too because she doesn't take diet drugs.

Straight Edge means sex only in a relationship?

Droford
11-28-2009, 06:21 PM
Straight Edge means sex only in a relationship?

No Premarital Sex.

She was known to be dating a few people...

Inadequacy
11-28-2009, 06:27 PM
I thought it was just o "promiscous" sex. At least that's what CM Punk has been saying

Droford
11-28-2009, 06:29 PM
eh..maybe so.

It would be fun if the stable took a religious angle turn on it with Punk being the leader of it like it was a cult or something.

jerichoholicninja
11-28-2009, 06:32 PM
I thought it was just o "promiscous" sex. At least that's what CM Punk has been saying

I'm pretty sure that's what it means otherwise you're just a Mormon.

Skippord
11-28-2009, 07:21 PM
No Premarital Sex.

She was known to be dating a few people...
it is just promiscuous sex

Mr. Nerfect
11-28-2009, 07:58 PM
CM Punk leading a stable is not a bad idea. I think the analogies are just throwing people off. If CM Punk got into some guys' heads, and started recruiting them, he could come off as a "virus" that has infected the WWE.

You have Curt Hawkins who apparently has a bit of an emo gimmick going on. He would make a great follower for Punk. If the stable somehow expanded across the brands -- Zack Ryder trying to get his "bro" back from CM Punk could make for an entertaining storyline.

In FCW, Curt Hawkins has been paired with Caylen Croft & Trent Beretta, who are called "The Dudebusters," or something. I don't know what their gimmick is, exactly, but if they brought up Croft & Beretta to work in the faction; it gives them a tag team. I think they also had Penny Cash as a valet? She could make a great addition to the group, too.

I still like the idea of Kaval being called up by Punk as a "weapon" against all who oppose him. Punk can talk about how Kaval's discipline and training occupy his time, so he doesn't go out and party, and make the same mistakes we do. I can see Matt Striker putting over Kaval as some sort of "Human Weapon" quite effectively.

I'd keep Slam Master J out of the group, and rather have SMJ feud against Luke Gallows. Their history could be brought up, and it gives the former Festus a storyline to deal with.

Bryan Danielson being called up for the group would be interesting. I wouldn't have Danielson preach the straight-edge lifestyle so much as the discipline it takes to be the best. Danielson devotes his life to being "The Best in the World," and everyday he sees people whose lives are filled with meaningless activities. He would be "The Rock" to CM Punk's "Faarooq" in the Nation of Domination.

Drew McIntyre being added is still something I would not oppose. That's if Vince gives his backing to the group. So you'd end up with CM Punk, Drew McIntyre, Bryan Danielson, Kaval, Luke Gallows, Curt Hawkins, Caylen Croft, Trent Beretta & Penny Cash.

HBPunk
11-28-2009, 08:19 PM
So you'd end up with CM Punk, Drew McIntyre, Bryan Danielson, Kaval, Luke Gallows, Curt Hawkins, Caylen Croft, Trent Beretta & Penny Cash.

WHO?? Forget this rubbish idea for a stable with so many no namers, the group should be CM Punk, Psycho Sid, Cryme Tyme, 2 Divas and either one of Franny Hontonous/Daryl Throng. Sid would accompany Punk for all his matches, Cryme Tyme get the tag belts

Swiss Ultimate
11-28-2009, 09:18 PM
WHO?? Forget this rubbish idea for a stable with so many no namers, the group should be CM Punk, Psycho Sid, Cryme Tyme, 2 Divas and either one of Franny Hontonous/Daryl Throng. Sid would accompany Punk for all his matches, Cryme Tyme get the tag belts

That is neither trolling nor quality posting. No matter what your motive here was you failed.

FTL...

TerranRich
11-28-2009, 09:33 PM
I absolutely love the idea of a CM Punk-led straight edge-pushing stable. It would definitely be a "virus" in the WWE, and I would love it if it happened.

Of course, that instantly means it never will. But it does make for an interesting SVR 2010 Story Designer creation. :D

HBPunk
11-28-2009, 10:33 PM
That is neither trolling nor quality posting. No matter what your motive here was you failed.

FTL...

Whats your fucking problem?? that stable would be awesome, you never say anything worthwhile

Mr. Nerfect
11-28-2009, 11:44 PM
HBPunk, you are horrible. And not in the B-grade movie way.

Xero
11-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Whats your fucking problem?? that stable would be awesome, you never say anything worthwhile

you never say anything worthwhile

HBPunk
11-29-2009, 12:26 AM
ya and ye guys really have a clue.all ye do is spend all day discussing in depth what MIGHT happen someday and while 5% of ye make sense,the rest is hopeless bullshit. Earlier today there was a thread posted and then deleted a few hours later. The tard who posted it had his WM26 card predicted in full. He had The Rock listed in a match and there was no sign of THE UNDERTAKER. Taker sucks but he has that little WM streak of his! some people..

Mr. Nerfect
11-29-2009, 12:46 AM
ya and ye guys really have a clue.all ye do is spend all day discussing in depth what MIGHT happen someday and while 5% of ye make sense,the rest is hopeless bullshit. Earlier today there was a thread posted and then deleted a few hours later. The tard who posted it had his WM26 card predicted in full. He had The Rock listed in a match and there was no sign of THE UNDERTAKER. Taker sucks but he has that little WM streak of his! some people..

Ye are not a pirate, so don't ye be talkin' like that. Yarrrrrgh, ye wanker.

Bubba
11-29-2009, 03:15 AM
Ye are not a pirate, so don't ye be talkin' like that. Yarrrrrgh, ye wanker.

lol!! Bring back Sean Xpac Waltman, now a drug free Straight Edge guy. Then fued with DX..........

Or the Road Dogg?

Mr. C
11-29-2009, 03:30 AM
As far as additions to CM Punk's stable, I'd say have Curt Hawkins join. Say that after the split with Zack Ryder, he got caught up in the vices of life, and his life spiraled out of control, and that's why we haven't seen him for a while.

Mr. Nerfect
11-29-2009, 06:50 AM
As far as additions to CM Punk's stable, I'd say have Curt Hawkins join. Say that after the split with Zack Ryder, he got caught up in the vices of life, and his life spiraled out of control, and that's why we haven't seen him for a while.

This would be excellent. I haven't seen a recent picture of Curt Hawkins, but apparently he does have that emo look going on? That is perfect for a heel follower, doing what Punk tells him to do. Right now, Hawkins is 24 years old, or something. He's got plenty of time to develop and grow as a performer. Honestly, even though I always preferred Ryder, I felt that Hawkins showed more promise in the ring.

Right now, Hawkins doesn't need to be pushed as a mega-star. Just give him a filler role somewhere (like in Punk's potential stable), and break him in a bit more. His time will come. He's got five years before he catches up to Dolph Ziggler's current age.

Although, I am still all for Hawkins turning up on ECW in a bit of a program with Zack Ryder.

HBPunk
11-29-2009, 10:35 AM
Ye are not a pirate, so don't ye be talkin' like that. Yarrrrrgh, ye wanker.

point proven,what a child

Swiss Ultimate
11-29-2009, 11:52 AM
point proven,what a child

Nay, ye scallywag, ye be a child ye yellow-bellied landlubber!

Ol Dirty Dastard
11-29-2009, 11:54 AM
It'd be cool if someone non shitty like an upper mid card or a main eventer joined his stable and actually followed Punk's orders and so forth as to make Punk seem like a badass. Or they at least took down main eventers and not Matt Hardy to make the stable look legit. Until then, I shall reserve judgement on the straight edge stable.

Heyman
11-29-2009, 01:09 PM
It'd be cool if someone non shitty like an upper mid card or a main eventer joined his stable and actually followed Punk's orders and so forth as to make Punk seem like a badass. Or they at least took down main eventers and not Matt Hardy to make the stable look legit. Until then, I shall reserve judgement on the straight edge stable.

That is sort of what I had in mind. In this idea of mine, I had CM Punk eventually becoming a *unified* world champion of both RAW and Smackdown...and as result, would be at odds with the likes of Triple H, John Cena, Edge, Randy Orton (turns face), Taker, etc., etc. Guys that could join Punk's stable could include Drew McIntyre, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Mark Henry, John Morrison, R-Truth, Zack Ryder, Curt Hawkins, etc.

Now - some people will raise their eyebrows upon seeing some of the people that I have listed there....but let me explain myself. By having some of the above guys listed in this 'Straight Edge' stable, it allows them to ALSO be at odds with other main-event wrestlers. This set-up gives the WWE a pretext to have main-event wrestlers feuding with up-and-coming wrestlers (which in effect, gives up-and-coming wrestlers more exposure)

thedamndest
11-29-2009, 01:27 PM
It's a good idea, but in today's climate it would get about the same length run as La Famalia before Punk goes back to doing what he was doing and everyone else either gets fired or repackaged. Heels just don't win.

Evil Vito
11-29-2009, 04:50 PM
<font color=goldenrod>If they did keep it a small stable, I definitely would support each member having their own "vice"

Luke Gallows already has been confirmed as having a previous addiction to prescription pills, causing his condition. Curt Hawkins can have his absense be due to a drug addiction or something, they can come up with a reason for it.

The Burchills would be a great fit, they could have developed an alcohol addiction after the loss to the Hurricane...but, all signs point to them going to Raw, which is unfortunate. So someone else can get the alcohol addict role. Maybe bring Carlito over since he clearly isn't doing anything on Raw. I dunno.</font>

Sixx
11-29-2009, 05:11 PM
<font color=goldenrod>If they did keep it a small stable, I definitely would support each member having their own "vice"

Luke Gallows already has been confirmed as having a previous addiction to prescription pills, causing his condition. Curt Hawkins can have his absense be due to a drug addiction or something, they can come up with a reason for it.

The Burchills would be a great fit, they could have developed an alcohol addiction after the loss to the Hurricane...but, all signs point to them going to Raw, which is unfortunate. So someone else can get the alcohol addict role. Maybe bring Carlito over since he clearly isn't doing anything on Raw. I dunno.</font>

Apple addiction isn't gonna work.

Heros Welcome
11-29-2009, 10:40 PM
I love the idea of a Punk run faction. I think it should max out at 5 people.

Second City Saints/sXe Army

Punk
Luke Gallows
Curt Hawkins
Rosa Mendes
Low Ki

I would have Punk let Gallows seek out Slam Master J and let him put a brutal beat down on him for allowing him and assisting in sending him down the wrong path of drugs and neglect.

Next is Curt Hawkins. He feel into alcoholism after his tag team split and no one recognized him. Punk sends Curt on a mission to ECW for a few weeks and face his true problem..hes problem wasn't alcohol..he viewed that as an easy out to his true problem..his problem with Zach Ryder. Curt viewed Zach as the fun loving guy who partyed like it was no big deal, and that ate at Curt, and now he wants his revenge.

Rosa Mendes. If you want a female in the stable you can have her be at Ryders side during his matches and promos with Hawkins, and you start to notice she may start to believe in the gospel that Hawkins and Punk are preaching. Ultimately she chooses the sXe army and leaves Ryder.

Low Ki aka Kaval. I'm throwing his name in here since I really liek Noids idea of using him as a weapon. A hard working well disciplined man who pretty much models punks motto when he first came in, and talking wont have to happen because Ki is all business and just kicks ppl to death. Punk can handle the stick for him.

This would be a kick in the ass to the wwe fan. Give them something they haven't seen in a long time. Its fresh its different from the same old cookie cutter garbage that the fan is getting tired of. You could tune and say hey I wonder if Punk will show up tonight, preaching his gospel, and if he does will anyone join his movement? Will someone wage war with punk and speak against his words and if he does can he handle it since Punk doesn't come alone.

This has the potential to be huge, if the WWE lets it.

Innovator
11-29-2009, 10:41 PM
Stable or not, I just want some fucking double stomps

Heros Welcome
11-29-2009, 10:43 PM
Amen Inno, Amen!

parkmania
11-30-2009, 06:33 PM
Could anyone see HBK joining this stable and being "born again again"? After all, the time that DX reformed to take on Vince, HHH was constantly doing things that family-man, super-christian Shawn would have disapproved of behind his back in a "wink wink nudge nudge" style.

Swiss Ultimate
11-30-2009, 06:54 PM
HBK is too old to brain-washed. If Undertaker couldn't do it in all these years, no one can.

Triple Naitch
11-30-2009, 07:43 PM
WWE could swerve the shit out of everybody if Jeff Hardy returned as Punk's biggest rehab project.

Swiss Ultimate
11-30-2009, 07:57 PM
WWE could swerve the shit out of everybody if Jeff Hardy returned as Punk's biggest rehab project.

It'd be like Raven brain-washing Tommy Dreamer in 1998.

Heyman
11-30-2009, 08:04 PM
WWE could swerve the shit out of everybody if Jeff Hardy returned as Punk's biggest rehab project.

It's a very interesting idea but the only problem with that is that it makes Hardy look inferior to Punk. At this stage in Jeff's career, this would NOT be a good thing. As far as other wrestlers go, I don't think everyone needs some kind of former "vice" in order to join the stable (i.e. Festus being a former alcoholic, etc.). Some wrestlers can join for the simple fact that they support the straight edge lifestyle.

parkmania
11-30-2009, 08:12 PM
HBK is too old to brain-washed. If Undertaker couldn't do it in all these years, no one can.

Not saying he'd need brainwashed. He could join the "crusade" since he's "currently living the lifestyle" since turning his life around.

Swiss Ultimate
11-30-2009, 08:40 PM
It's a very interesting idea but the only problem with that is that it makes Hardy look inferior to Punk. At this stage in Jeff's career, this would NOT be a good thing. As far as other wrestlers go, I don't think everyone needs some kind of former "vice" in order to join the stable (i.e. Festus being a former alcoholic, etc.). Some wrestlers can join for the simple fact that they support the straight edge lifestyle.

You could book it like, CM Punk came to Jeff and offered him help when everyone, including his brother, had abandoned him. It'd work if Punk and Hardy then went on as a heelish Straight-Edge tag team with a brief Tag Title run. Matt Hardy could try to snap some sense into him for a few months before the jealousy between Punk and Hardy came to a head with a Jeff Hardy face-turn.

Swiss Ultimate
11-30-2009, 08:41 PM
Not saying he'd need brainwashed. He could join the "crusade" since he's "currently living the lifestyle" since turning his life around.

He hit Sweet Chin Music on a midget.

parkmania
11-30-2009, 10:39 PM
He hit Sweet Chin Music on a midget.

And that has what to do with being Straight Edge?

If anything, that could be used to help push Shawn toward the heel side.

Mr. Nerfect
12-01-2009, 01:25 AM
Bryan Danielson joining and talking about the problems his mentors Shawn Michaels and William Regal had would be interesting.

Skippord
12-01-2009, 01:48 AM
when did Shawn Michaels superkick a midget?

Mr. Nerfect
12-01-2009, 08:57 AM
when did Shawn Michaels superkick a midget?

He didn't. But he did kick a little girl.

TerranRich
12-01-2009, 03:04 PM
The members of Punk's Stable need not be brainwashed, simply followers of the same lifestyle, subscribers to the same philosophy.

A lot of the ideas people are suggesting fits all the pieces together and ties up all the loose ends. That is why this is one of the greatest ideas of all time, to be perfectly honest. Yet it can never be done, because WWE just can't see that far ahead.

We "still remember", but WWE would have us forget within 6 weeks or less.

Either way, there's no harm in fantasizing (including other people's ideas)...

1. Curt Hawkins joining, feuding with Zack Ryder, who tries to "get him back"
2. Jeff Hardy joining, not brainwashed, just lost and confused maybe, and needing something to turn to, feuding with Matt Hardy
3. The Burchills... thing is, who would feud with them?
4. Shelton Benjamin... I keep thinking about my angle idea from a year or two ago where he starts to botch and it's revealed that it's caused by substance abuse. If I could be allowed to re-hash this angle for a minute, this would be perfect for this potential stable.
5. Shawn Michaels. I can see him being "born again again" as was said above, finally turning on Triple H (yet again), dissolving DX for good, and having a semi-main event feud for this stable.
6. Mickie James. Yes, I said it. Depression sets in from the "abuse" she's getting from the Divas, and she turns psycho, eventually joining the stable after snapping causes her to abuse whatever drug of choice. Alcohol maybe? Then she can feud with... I dunno, some Diva. But still, heel Mickie James would be perfect for this.
7. Goldust. For some reason I can see him removing the makeup and, actually, his entire gimmick, claiming that years of substance abuse caused him to take on that persona.

Man, substance abuse can be used to explain away a LOT of nonsense in the WWE. ;)

I'm trying to think of others. But right there, we have mid-cards, main-eventers, divas, couples, former tag teams. Nice mix so far. If I've forgotten anybody's ideas, let me know.

EDIT:

8. Have Matt Striker join up, and you'd have a voice for them constantly on the air... or turn him into a manager/spokesperson type of role, like Eric Bischoff was for the nWo.

Mr. Nerfect
12-02-2009, 04:34 AM
Of all the people mentioned for the stable, I would say this would be my dream team:

CM Punk
Luke Gallows
Bryan Danielson
Kaval
Curt Hawkins
Mickie James
Matt Striker

TerranRich
12-02-2009, 04:45 AM
I'm not sure if I read all the posts or not, but I really hope I thought of Mickie James and Matt Striker first. :D I think they'd be excellent additions.

Joesgonnakillyou
12-02-2009, 11:56 AM
I think the initial idea of a NWO sized stable with Punk as unified heavyweight champion is a terrible idea (sorry). A load of jobbers joining up together is a sure fire way of making sure they won't get over when it finishes. I never really enjoyed it when the NWO got all bloated and overflowing. In face the most entertaining parts of WCW were when people got to stand out of their own away from the whole thing. Some of the suggestions for members of this have been horrible, Bryan Danielson?! Way to get his WWE career started, faceless henchman no 2. HBK?! In what reality would that ever work? People would turn off in droves Jeff Hardy? Punk has done his best and most popular work as his nemesis, let's get them friends!

Casual fans wouldn't accept this for a second either.

Punk with a stable isn't a bad thing though, 3 extra guys hanging round could really work. In a Raven's flock sort of way, which i think is where they're heading with this. Heroes welcome has had the best idea so far.

Heros Welcome
12-02-2009, 12:11 PM
Why thank you.