Better Wrestler #111

[Supreme Olajuwon]

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The Undertaker


VS


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"The King of Harts" Owen Hart



3 days.

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Geurrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>Shawn Michaels</option></select>

[Schlomey]

I love Owen but the train stops here. I can't think of anyone more deserving to go over.

[The Jayman]

The Deadman vs A Deadman.....hmmm I vote Undertaker

[Ermaximus]

I honestly can't pick this legit so I'll flip for it. Heads=Taker, Tails=Owen.

[Ermaximus]

It came up heads. Taker it is.

[Nicky Fives]

Owen Hart is my favourite wrestler of all-time, it pains me deeply, but Unsertaker is the man, and is the better wrestler

[Joesgonnakillyou]

Taker has more charisma and a fancier entrance but that's it. Owen for me.

[Kapoutman]

Owen had a lot of charisma too. And he's a better wrestler, and in my opinion, a better promo guy. My souvenirs of American Bad-Ass Taker speaking are pretty bad.

[HBPunk]

No contest, owen was the first heel i liked as a kid. Undertaker has sucked hard for decades

[XCaliber]

Owen is great but Taker is just that much better.

[Stealth-Icon]

Undertaker over the Nugget. Besides, at the time of me voting there is no picture up of Owen, so he must not be deserving of one.

[jskinnyg]

Not a fan of the deadman... But he tops out ol' Owen... RIP

[Swiss Ultimate]

5 Wrestlers that were better than Undertaker

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Kurt Angle
3. Steve Austin
4. The Rock
5. Mick Foley

To be fair:
Undertaker is currently better than 4 of those people and he's always been great.

[Stealth-Icon]

I liked the bumps that Foley used to take, but currently every time he is on TNA bitching about Hogan coming and not being notified makes me cringe. Thankfully I have my DVR so I can fast forward him.

[Lock Jaw]

Undertaker wins via longevity.

[The Gold Standard]

Taker.

Taker is going to walk through the competition to get to the Hall.

[Xero]

So far it's a burial.

Come on, you knew that was coming.

[Lock Jaw]

I get the feeling that Undertaker wouldn't have so many votes if he weren't dead.

[XCaliber]

I get the feeling that Undertaker wouldn't have so many votes if he weren't dead.

I see what you did there.

[HBPunk]

5 Wrestlers that were better than Undertaker

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Kurt Angle
3. Steve Austin
4. The Rock
5. Mick Foley

To be fair:
Undertaker is currently better than 4 of those people and he's always been great.

WTF does this all mean?? 2 of the 5 arent wrestling anymore, Kurt Angle and Shawn Michaels piss on taker from a great height when it comes to actual wrestling and Foley outshone taker everytime they met. Granted it was cos Micks insane but thats better than an overgrown clown walking a top rope for 18 years and a faggy biker for 3. Undertaker is hugely OVERRATED :nono:

[Destor]

i see in my absence we grown so just terrible posters...

[Lock Jaw]

We need Destor to SAVE_US.

[The Pope]

5 Wrestlers that were better than Undertaker

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Kurt Angle
3. Steve Austin
4. The Rock
5. Mick Foley

To be fair:
Undertaker is currently better than 4 of those people and he's always been great.
This is not what the thread is about

[CWK]

Deadman over the deadman.

Undertaker, easily.

[HBPunk]

i see in my absence we grown so just terrible posters...

In english next time son

[Destor]

im tempted to ban this jack off.

[Innovator]

Taker

[ron the dial]

im tempted to ban this jack off.
DO IT

[Destor]

meh, let me get to know the jackoff first :p

[Emperor Smeat]

Going to vote for Undertaker based on how long his career has been and how he managed to make the Undertaker and American Bad Ass characters successful when most have problems with their original character being popular with the crowd.

Also one of the very few wrestlers that Vince managed to give any high authority over the rest of the staff/wrestlers. He's probably as responsible for Austin's early success as Bret, evil Vince, and Austin were since he basically threatened to beat up HBK if he refused to drop the title to Austin during an actual meeting heading into Wrestlemania.

Owen was a good wrestler and could have been a huge star post-Montreal but his death and those extra 10+ years allowed the Undertaker to pad his resume better in the end.

[Skippord]

Taker, because he's been my favorite wrestler since I was a little kid

[Rammsteinmad]

Well, I didn't know who to vote for, but as 'Taker's in the lead 49-9, I don't think my vote matters for this round.

[The Mackem]

I'll go with that too.

[Ermaximus]

Was there a stipulation for this round, because Owen is just getting buried by Taker.

[fanatic7707]

apparently it seems to be a no contest. Owen got a good portion of his popularity from Bret and his team ups with other HOF. Taker, let's just face it the streak lives and he seems to be on a roll right now. In the end Taker wins my vote. :D

[Nicky Fives]

5 Wrestlers that were better than Undertaker

1. Shawn Michaels
2. Kurt Angle
3. Steve Austin
4. The Rock
5. Mick Foley

To be fair:
Undertaker is currently better than 4 of those people and he's always been great.

Foley is not better than Taker...... replace him with Bret Hart, and I agree whole-heartedly

[Dante69]

Bastion Booger

[Supreme Olajuwon]

:rofl:

[Ermaximus]

He did it again!!! He's a riot. SO, can we please make the next round Taker vs Bastion Booger? Please?!?!

[Jeritron]

oh that Dante69! At it again!

[HBPunk]

DO IT

:kiss:

[HBPunk]

im tempted to ban this jack off.

cos you cant spell? bit harsh but unlike most people on here, tpww isnt all i have going on in my life. And you sir are the jack off. your so delighted that you have your little online game where you can ban whoever is mean to you or others. Im guessing it stems from you being bullied in school. Im sure you will delete this too which will prove im right. Ban me if you want, its not like im not used to it and i really couldnt care less, its a pity some people are oh so sensitive around here. Funny considering its a forum discussing a show where people are constantly antagonising eachother....anyway :kiss:

[St. Jimmy]

Taker is seriously burying Owen here.

[St. Jimmy]

Also, no bans. That's just feeding the trolls.

[HBPunk]

Also, no bans. That's just feeding the trolls.

:love: :nono:

[Destor]

This guy is pretty rich tbh. I kinda just want to lock him away in a cage and stare at him...like my own private monkey.

...sure you`re gonna get a lot of shit flying your way but it`s still entertaining.

[Indifferent Clox]

dear fucking god undertaker marks

[Indifferent Clox]

I think this shouldn't be called better wrestler but "better superstar" or "better in ring performer" my votes would be drastically different if the semantics were slightly altered.

[Mr. Pierre]

Taker's got it all IMO.

[Lock Jaw]

The semantics are what you make it.

[Jeritron]

you are what you eat

[Indifferent Clox]

I suppose, but I think Taker is a better charecter, he's a consumate pro, loyal, all kinds of great stuff, I mark out for him still sometimes, but that doesn't fucking matter, because Owen Hart can 'wrestle' better. Thus he is the better wrestler

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Out of 111 threads, I wonder how many have someone complaining about the ambiguity of the term "wrestler"

I'm guessing at least 75

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Shit, I've got nothing better to do right now

BRB

[Supreme Olajuwon]

nah not gonna do it

bet it's a lot though

[Destor]

you`re right.

as always wrestler is what you make it. if you want it to mean hold for hold so be it, but speaking as a wrestler i assure you there are tons of us who couldnt work the chain to save their lives...unless they`re hiding it in their tights. ;) many things make up a wrestler and you judge those factors is up to you and isnt what is being voted on here.

[Sixx]

I think this shouldn't be called better wrestler but "better superstar" or "better in ring performer" my votes would be drastically different if the semantics were slightly altered.

Here we go again.

Undertaker had a cooler mullet in that pic, so he gets my vote.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

My vote goes to the most badass Ginger on the planet.

[HBPunk]

This guy is pretty rich tbh. I kinda just want to lock him away in a cage and stare at him...like my own private monkey.

...sure you`re gonna get a lot of shit flying your way but it`s still entertaining.

awwww :kiss:

[FourFifty]

I'm not reading this whole thread, but I'd like to know if someone made a "deadman vs deadman" joke.

[Sixx]

Of course.

[Jannettyzilla]

I'm not reading this whole thread, but I'd like to know if someone made a "deadman vs deadman" joke.
I was sickly hoping for a "rising to the rafters" vs. "falling from the rafters" joke. :shifty:

[Ermaximus]

Damn, this isn't over yet? Well technically the contest has been over for a day or so, but I just meant the poll. I wonder if Taker can get 100 votes?

[HBPunk]

I'm not reading this whole thread, but I'd like to know if someone made a "deadman vs deadman" joke.

this fuckin little weirdo kane freak shud be banned

[Ermaximus]

this fuckin little weirdo kane freak shud be banned

You should enter this contest.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97616

[HBPunk]

You should enter this contest.

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?t=97616

:rofl: ya sure i will!

[Ermaximus]

We need 14 more people HBPunk. Be nice and sign up. :) I'll even vote for you in the first round if you do.

[HBPunk]

We need 14 more people HBPunk. Be nice and sign up. :) I'll even vote for you in the first round if you do.

but i have a life in the real world so no thanks :kiss:

[Sixx]

but i have a life in the real world so no thanks :kiss:

Sure you do.

Besides, you don't have to do anything in that contest, other than sign up.

[bigfred419]

owen hart for sure he did way more in the wwe than the undertaker did

[bigfred419]

owen hart for sure he did way more in the wwe than the undertaker did