From what I understand TNA is going to start doing live tv against Raw?

[BigDaddyCool]

I haven't watched in a while...but do they seriously think they can comepete?

[Londoner]

Its only a one off to see what happens.

[Xero]

Yeah, it's basically a trial. I'm sure if they do decent they'll move to Mondays after the Road to WrestleMania. If they were smart, anyway.

[Droford]

I wonder if they'll go 8-10 to at least catch people for the first hour or if they'll be stupid and go up against RAW directly 9-11.

Interesting enough, with DVRs now it might not be that bad as long as theres nothing else you want to watch on Mondays.

[Xero]

I could see them actually making it 3 hours for good like Nitro.

[Jordan]

I think 3 hours would be a good idea, especially if they don't have another show other than TNA Epics.

[BigDaddyCool]

I just think TNA is dumb.

[Xero]

This is make it or break it for TNA. If they fail here, they won't go down much (I don't think, unless Hogan fucks shit up backstage) but it will cement them as never being able to be on par with WWE.

[BigDaddyCool]

This is make it or break it for TNA. If they fail here, they won't go down much (I don't think, unless Hogan fucks shit up backstage) but it will cement them as never being able to be on par with WWE.

But they have already done that by refusing to tour, refusing to make new stars when old ones can be bought, and refusing to let the in ring action talk for itself.

[SammyG]

again Raw

[ron the dial]

refusing to make new stars when old ones can be bought
have you even watched recently? no, you haven't. shut it up.

[fanatic7707]

Depends on the ratings. Let's not forget while football season is in play they'll have to go up against Monday Night Football.

[Schlomey]

TNA ratings on a non WWE night like Thursdays is only as good as the piddly ECW rating.

This is a bad idea.

[ron the dial]

honestly, i don't see the point in going head to head on monday night. broadcasting live and touring would be 2 things i would look at doing first.

[BigDaddyCool]

have you even watched recently? no, you haven't. shut it up.
Not really, but I see they have signed Hogan
Depends on the ratings. Let's not forget while football season is in play they'll have to go up against Monday Night Football.
Interesting
TNA ratings on a non WWE night like Thursdays is only as good as the piddly ECW rating.

This is a bad idea.
Well WWE doesn't invest anything in ECW. And I would say TNA does have more star power than ECW.

[Schlomey]

TNA is a heavily producded show that relies a lot of pre-taped segments and re-filmings....Good luck going live on a whim.

[ron the dial]

Not really, but I see they have signed Hogan
my point still stands. you don't know what you're talking about.

[BigDaddyCool]

honestly, i don't see the point in going head to head on monday night. broadcasting live and touring would be 2 things i would look at doing first.

I agree completely with this. The live TV they have done before sucked.

[Schlomey]

Well WWE doesn't invest anything in ECW. And I would say TNA does have more star power than ECW.



The point is that even with their "star power" they are only drawing a rating the size of ECW which is considered a training ground..>Not full of icons like Foley,Sting & Steiner ect...

just seems like a a baaad idea. Now if TNA was pushing a 2/3 rating on a Thursday then sure try it out...But they are only doing a 1. something on a weekly basis which is scary.

[BigDaddyCool]

my point still stands. you don't know what you're talking about.

TNA has a strong stigma attached to it. And just glancing at their roster, it is about 50/50 with hasbeens to new people.

They might be doing good now, but I remember not so long ago where if you didn't already make a name before getting in tna, you wouldn't.

[ron the dial]

if they're hoping to garner ratings based on "HEY MONDAY NIGHT WARS ALL OVER AGAIN" mentality from the fans, i think they're going to be disappointed. anybody who gives a fuck about that has already tuned into TNA and make their decision. hogan will bring in new viewers, but that will only last for so long. i don't see any of this bringing TNA into the "big time" and making them legit competition for WWE.

[Schlomey]

We have already had the Monday Night Wars...and as we know now...The WWE will always win.

[ron the dial]

TNA has a strong stigma attached to it. And just glancing at their roster, it is about 50/50 with hasbeens to new people.

They might be doing good now, but I remember not so long ago where if you didn't already make a name before getting in tna, you wouldn't.
i don't disagree with this. i didn't watch TNA for a long time because of this. but they've done a solid job of building up their own new stars recently, and that is what's making me tune in. none of this other garbage they're tossing around.

[Steveviscious89]

Many of you guys have to remember that most fans are not like us. They aren't thinking through whether or not the company has made 'good' decisions and then sort of basing their opinions on that. When wrestling was at its peak, I would say the majority of fans weren't all that tuned into the business, it was just entertaining for them. I hate to say this but it's going to come down to a lot of personality in order to bring in the television ratings. BDC's assessment of the TNA talent is a no-brainer...of course you won't make it big if no one is watching, so you bring in the so called 'has beens' so that people will have some recognizable faces to associate with. This is really the only reason they are there, and also one of the big reasons Hogan is there. He really isn't suppose to wrestle hardly at all.

[Londoner]

my point still stands. you don't know what you're talking about.

That is BDC you're talking to, you should be used to his attitude by now.

[BigDaddyCool]

omg, bdc obiviously doesn't know what he is talking about because he doesn't just admit TNA is the greatest wrestling promotion ever.

Shut up TL.

[Jeritron]

do you care for Swagger?

[BigDaddyCool]

Still don't.

[Londoner]

omg, bdc obiviously doesn't know what he is talking about because he doesn't just admit TNA is the greatest wrestling promotion ever.

Shut up TL.

Bit defensive there eh?

[Schlomey]

well typically when someone goes on the offensive the correct thing to do is get defensive....right?

[BigDaddyCool]

well typically when someone goes on the offensive the correct thing to do is get defensive....right?

No...that makes to much sense.

[Londoner]

well typically when someone goes on the offensive the correct thing to do is get defensive....right?

It was hardly going on the 'offensive' though, just a truthful statement on BDC's normal attitude.

[BigDaddyCool]

What, my attitude of TNA has been constant disappointment, why should one live TNA on Monday be any different? Is that the attitude you mean? Or the attitude where I don't just conform with the rest of IWC on Jericho is the greatest, WWE sucks but I won't quit watching, or Nameless Indy Guy #3563 is going to make it huge now that he signed with WWE...oh wait they already cut him.

Thanks for coming by.

[Londoner]

What, my attitude of TNA has been constant disappointment, why should one live TNA on Monday be any different? Is that the attitude you mean? Or the attitude where I don't just conform with the rest of IWC on Jericho is the greatest, WWE sucks but I won't quit watching, or Nameless Indy Guy #3563 is going to make it huge now that he signed with WWE...oh wait they already cut him.

Thanks for coming by.

That's not what i mean, as weapon x said, you don't watch it, therefore you don't have the right to a proper opinion on it, and you always think you do.

[Schlomey]

Wrestling in general has been boring me lately....TNA just makes it worse. I like some of what they do and some of who they have but I just can't force myself to like the majority of their programming.

[BigDaddyCool]

That's not what i mean, as weapon x said, you don't watch it, therefore you don't have the right to a proper opinion on it, and you always think you do.

Oh, so I haven't been watching wrestling for the past month, therefore I don't know what I'm talking about? The wrestling business changed that much since I stopped watching? Shut the fuck up.

[Londoner]

Your posts just prove to me what i was saying really.

[BigDaddyCool]

So wrestling has changed drastically over a month?

[screech]

TNA is a heavily producded show that relies a lot of pre-taped segments and re-filmings....Good luck going live on a whim.

TNA has done a live iMPACT! at least once. It was in October of last year when they did it from Vegas (first broadcast in HD I believe), and when MEM first became a faction.

[Londoner]

So wrestling has changed drastically over a month?

Not drastically but recent raw and tna shows have been alot more enjoyable. Smackdowns still good.

[BigDaddyCool]

TNA has done a live iMPACT! at least once. It was in October of last year when they did it from Vegas (first broadcast in HD I believe), and when MEM first became a faction.

I recall the one. They had a handful of techincal errors. They would need to address those, and would hopefully be worked out if they did it more often.

I would like to see TNA doing more live shows and getting that down, then start touring and filming that live. Then move against raw. That seems like a better idea.

[BigDaddyCool]

Not drastically but recent raw and tna shows have been alot more enjoyable. Smackdowns still good.

So wrestling hasn't changed that much, so you are talking out of your ass and have some sort of vendetta against me so you are trying to dismiss whatever I have to says out of "oh he is just being BDC."

[screech]

I feel like TNA is doing well lately, but I don't think they are quite ready to try to go head-to-head with WWE. I do think they can get there, and I want to see it happen, but it will take a lot longer than four weeks.

If this fails miserably it won't kill them, but it will definitely be a chink in the armor, so to speak.

[screech]

I recall the one. They had a handful of techincal errors. They would need to address those, and would hopefully be worked out if they did it more often.

I would like to see TNA doing more live shows and getting that down, then start touring and filming that live. Then move against raw. That seems like a better idea.

Exactly. They can work all of that out, but it should be done before going right up against the competition. Again, It can be done, but it will take a lot more time than they have given themselves.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also they just have a lot of stigma to over come. The need to tour, they need to show they have built new guys. They need to do more live. By doing free tapings in that tiny "arena" they look small time despite having top names.

[Emperor Smeat]

If TNA were to tour or go on the road a lot for house shows, they would lose a key signing point with veterans. Most veterans and leftover WWE wrestlers end up going to TNA because of the guaranteed lack of traveling and touring compared to the WWE and past big promotions.

Sting, Foley, Booker T, and others went to TNA since they knew they would have a small work week and almost no traveling required which meant they could stay near their homes on the off days.

[Xero]

TNA, I do believe, will have to become a proper touring company eventually, but as it is, they're okay. They could use a bigger home arena, but that's about it.

Though every PPV should be on the road, barring maybe one a year in the Impact Zone.

[Londoner]

TNA, I do believe, will have to become a proper touring company eventually, but as it is, they're okay. They could use a bigger home arena, but that's about it.

Though every PPV should be on the road, barring maybe one a year in the Impact Zone.

Agreed.:yes:

[BigDaddyCool]

If TNA were to tour or go on the road a lot for house shows, they would lose a key signing point with veterans. Most veterans and leftover WWE wrestlers end up going to TNA because of the guaranteed lack of traveling and touring compared to the WWE and past big promotions.

Sting, Foley, Booker T, and others went to TNA since they knew they would have a small work week and almost no traveling required which meant they could stay near their homes on the off days.

Well I think that is crippling their company.

[screech]

Though every PPV should be on the road, barring maybe one a year in the Impact Zone.

They started to take PPVs on the road this year. I think they did half (maybe a few less) away from Orlando. Not perfect, but it is a start.

[Nicky Fives]

I could see them actually making it 3 hours for good like Nitro.

3 hours of Impact = a solid 22.875 minutes of actual wrestling :wtf:

[Xero]

They started to take PPVs on the road this year. I think they did half (maybe a few less) away from Orlando. Not perfect, but it is a start.

Oh yeah I know they've started, just I'd like to see it more.

[BigDaddyCool]

Again, TNA has made lots of right moves, the problem is that they have a history of following up the right moves with nothing or disappointment.

[screech]

3 hours of Impact = a solid 22.875 minutes of actual wrestling :wtf:

They have been getting better with that recently.

[Londoner]

Again, TNA has made lots of right moves, the problem is that they have a history of following up the right moves with nothing or disappointment.

But so do the wwe, what's new?

[BigDaddyCool]

This thread is about how TNA can get better, not about WWE. WWE has had much more success and a much richer history than TNA. It isn't really fair to TNA to compare it to WWE. I'm not saying WWE isn't with out its faults, and I'm not a WWE fan boy, which I know you are trying to paint me as. But WWE has had much bigger successes, built real stars and is the industry. TNA is possibly the next big thing, but that has been going on for the past 7 years.

I'll give TNA their due, they have exist 7 years, they look like they are building. But seriously, there are no were near on the same level as WWE.

[Londoner]

I'll give TNA their due, they have exist 7 years, they look like they are building. But seriously, there are no were near on the same level as WWE.

No one has said they're.

[BigDaddyCool]

But you are acting like they are by bring up "But so do the wwe, what's new?"

[Londoner]

But you are acting like they are by bring up "But so do the wwe, what's new?"

No, i was just pointing out that all wrestling companies make bad decisions, not just TNA. Btw despite what you may think, i am not a huge tna fan or anything, just like casually watching their shows recently and feel they have something that's worth building on.

[BigDaddyCool]

No one ever said they didn't. Just because every other wrestling company makes bad choices doesn't excuse TNA's primarily disappointing history. TNA really doesn't have the invention of Wrestlemania to point to, or the nWo or any other game changing moments. I know, I know, they can, but they have been running on potential for some time now. I sincerely doubt one live Monday night edition is going to change anything.

[Indifferent Clox]

I like TNA. I don't think it is better than PWG or ROH or the japanese stuff. But it is wayyyy better than RAW, better than ECW, and as good as smackdown. They need their matches to last longer, and going three hours will allow them to do that. They will get fans because monday night is 'wrestling night' people will tune in to see what they try and do.

[Londoner]

'as good as smackdown'? lets not get carried away now....

[BigDaddyCool]

They need their matches to last longer, and going three hours will allow them to do that.

Or just better time management. Instead of having all the sideshows, promos, vignettes and so forth, the could actually wrestle.