WWE Raw Thread 12-21-09 "Raw presents: A Terrible Show"

[Savio]

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Dec. 21, 2009: Johnny Damon
Accustomed to entertaining a large audience on the baseball diamond, Johnny Damon will now try to knock one out of the park from inside the squared circle when he becomes the first baseball player ever to host Monday Night Raw. A two-time World Series (http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/special/allspecialguesthosts/upcomingguesthosts#) Champion and two-time MLB All-Star, Damon will batter up as guest host and bring Secret Santas along with him when he suits up in Tampa Bay, Fla.Haven't made one of these in awhile...wanted to get it in before Xero.
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[Xero]

Please add the link to the RAW chat at least:

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[Jeritron]

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pre- heel turn

[Savio]

I wish I knew some of the matches that were taking place tonight.

[Xero]

Thanks.

They're doing the Little People's Court for sure, it's been taped.

[Indifferent Clox]

will be watching ROH, may be watching this.

[Savio]

Never heard of little peoples court

[Xero]

Hornswoggle is suing DX for some reason.

[Juan]

You know, Damon isn't technically a Yankee anymore. Plus, he's hosting in Florida because that's where he lives.

[Droford]

Pre heel turn Johnny Damon looks sort of like CM Punk

[Droford]

I wonder how Kane feels about the new RAW theme?

[James Steele]

LOL

They finally pulled Hulk Hogan out of the WWE intro...and replaced him with The Million Dollar Man! :)

[Indifferent Clox]

last raw of the year mates

[ClockShot]

JOBLESS JOHNNY DAMON IN THE HOUSE!

[ClockShot]

Coming out to Fogerty. Eek.

[Triple Naitch]

Damon looks like a gay Eskimo tonight.

[Indifferent Clox]

CCR is amazing. His new album is great aswell.

lol tiger and a golf club

[ClockShot]

Johnny Rocket is in over his head.

[Savio]

the fuck?

[RawRocks]

Good.. get the divas segment done and over with early

[ClockShot]

Oh good, he gone. And I flip back to a divas match. :roll:

[addy2hotty]

Is it only in the UK that there's no commentary?

[ClockShot]

PEOPLE'S COURT THEME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!

[Indifferent Clox]

lol

[ClockShot]

Santa grants a wish? Interesting.

[James Steele]

I demand that Vince McMahon lets Dog The Bounty Hunter host RAW.

[RGWhat316]

You mean to tell me that Vince knows about the Tiger Woods situation? Shouldnt that have been done in about 2 years?

[Savio]

DX is the best thing going now

[Indifferent Clox]

triple h has a mic or cigs in his back pocket

[Savio]

they should have broke this segment up.

[Indifferent Clox]

peers lol

[Savio]

and they def should have had all the midgets they brought out before (lil booker t, etc) and have them dressed as the jury.

[RKO'em]

yo what the fuck is this

[ClockShot]

ORTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Indifferent Clox]

the 'best' raw ever?

[ClockShot]

Oops. Somebody missed the pyro button.

[RawRocks]

Interesting tag team combo

[RKO'em]

ah, the world's slowest man

[Innovator]

Bourne is so jobbin here

[Savio]

I'd like to see kofi get the pin on somebody

[RKO'em]

Bourne's frustrated faces are hilarious

[Savio]

I would have broke the pin if I was one of the other faced

[Indifferent Clox]

good selling

[Steveviscious89]

I don't normally watch Raw, but I just flipped to it a couple times, and then opening of the show literally looked like a circus act. First I feel terrible for poor Gail Kim. She must be freakin embarrassed to actually have to work with those girls. Secondly, this little people's court is a HUGE waste of time. I feel sorry for the live audience having to watch that on the screen instead of watching a match. And if DX is the best thing going for them, then they are in big trouble. This show is a joke compared to what they used to put out. I honestly have no idea now what's gonna happen on 1/4, but it isn't going to take much to beat them out in terms of enterainment after what I've seen.

[ClockShot]

Damn.

[RawRocks]

Brutal

[Indifferent Clox]

Yeah ROH PWG TNA and pretty much any other wrestling show are way better

[Innovator]

steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve smith

[ClockShot]

This was funny.

[Savio]

I don't normally watch Raw, but I just flipped to it a couple times, and then opening of the show literally looked like a circus act. First I feel terrible for poor Gail Kim. She must be freakin embarrassed to actually have to work with those girls. Secondly, this little people's court is a HUGE waste of time. I feel sorry for the live audience having to watch that on the screen instead of watching a match. And if DX is the best thing going for them, then they are in big trouble. This show is a joke compared to what they used to put out. I honestly have no idea now what's gonna happen on 1/4, but it isn't going to take much to beat them out in terms of enterainment after what I've seen.
Yeah but TNA can't seem to captilize on Raws weak storylines. When they just aquired angle they got alot of attention and what did they do? put every title on angle at once. Stupid idea.

Raw has a champion now with no purpose at all. I haven't seen him once the whole night and if he is not in the segment it'll be half the show with no MENTION of him. that would be ok if he was already established but he is not.

[Steveviscious89]

Yet another lame taped skit wasted on two talented wrestlers.

[DaVe]

Ah, so that's whats under the ring.

[RKO'em]

yeah where the fuck is Sheamus

[Steveviscious89]

Well...it's hard to capitalize when you don't have the recognition. Now don't peg me for being bias here. I always watched WWF post WCW and even before that. I think the real wrestling fans have actually always been for WWF. It's just that when the entertainment part of the sports entertainment slips, that's when you leave an opening for a TNA or ROH to step in and provide serious competition. It's happened before, and we already know that both of those companies are capable of putting on great matches.

[RKO'em]

THwaggah

[Steveviscious89]

Yeah...I don't get burying the champ either. I may be off here, but from the sound of the commentary, it seems like he will drop the belt to Orton at some point.

[Savio]

I think the best thing that can happen for Sheamus is to beat Cena again in a clean match.

[RawRocks]

Best thing that can happen is Sheamus to go away

[Indifferent Clox]

How come they don't look like they are really fighting? I seriously can't watch most of these matches, they look so much more planned and shitty than ROH. It doesn't even look like wrestling.

[Steveviscious89]

Meanwhile, I just saw the most hilarious play by the Redskins before the half. Now that's entertaining.

[ClockShot]

Dusty is Santa.

[Savio]

Damon will never be asked to host ANYTHING again.

[Steveviscious89]

He may even lose his baseball career for this shameful act.

[Savio]

I didn't even know chris was back....hope Carlito wins this.

[DaVe]

lol i don't know how people find carlito's theme annoying, i love it

"I spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool."

...carlito, carlito...

how is that not awesome?

[RawRocks]

Chris Masters should do Jingle Bells with his muscles :D

[Savio]

Where is our WWE Champion?

[DaVe]

I think ima stop watching for now; if anything good happens later I'll just watch it on YouTube.

This crappy RAW should've been replaced by Tribute to the Troops.

[Savio]

I'm really disapointed in wrestling now. There are ZERO storylines right now.

[Savio]

IRS?

[RawRocks]

I'm really disapointed in wrestling now. There are ZERO storylines right now.

since you have nothing good to say the door is accessible by hitting ALT+F4 :foc:

[Emperor Smeat]

lol Santa giving tax advice.

[RawRocks]

i did not see that

[thecc]

poor Damon

[Savio]

They are trying to be funny but are failing miserably. I heard they hired ex-writers from Jay Leno? Fire them.

[Savio]

Timba-land lol

[LuigiD]

I had a ticket for this but I had to get rid of it to make money for some expenses. kinda glad I did..this is one of the most terrible RAWs ever.

[Indifferent Clox]

Yeah this is the worst raw. I don't know if they are trying to be as bad as possible so maybe when they are good it;ll look a biblllion times better by copparision or something

[RawRocks]

i am not even amused by this Raw episode either.. so far it has sucked dog poop

[RawRocks]

and i had to put on sunglasses seeing Sheamus in the ring

[Indifferent Clox]

oh shit

[Savio]

That doesn't seem like a "super face" thing to say...He just had a match.

[Savio]

I wonder if David arquette is in this DVD.

[Juan]

Another Bret Hart mention.

[owenbrown]

lol only 3 pages

[RawRocks]

Santino Claus

[Indifferent Clox]

what the hell united states championship match after the world championship?

[Savio]

Damon suck a delivery.

lol the main event is an unpromoted Miz vs Santino.

[owenbrown]

Santino Claus is going....TO JOB!

[owenbrown]

lol the crowd is pissed off

[Favre4Ever]

i turned it off as soon as Michael Cole called him "Santino Clause"

[Savio]

Ok so what is the main event then? DX? JeriShow returns?

[Savio]

Ok now they are showing this again likely it was worthy enough to be.

[Juan]

This is why I hate Raw sometimes. People watch this shit and think "Man, WWE sucks"

When in reality, it's just Raw that sucks. Smackdown and ECW are 100 times better

[AJHayes]

This was fucking awful. Time for a strongly worded e-mail to wwe for them to promptly delete.

[Savio]

To be honest i never watch ECW or Smackdown....i just forget plus smackdown is on friday

[Indifferent Clox]

ECW is still not as good as ROH or TNA (maybe most of TNA but not the main event) and Smackdown I really can't say, but the wrestling isn't nearly as good as PWG or ROH or FIP, I'm almost positive since they aren't allowed to do almost anything that isn't scripted or pretty much been done like 100 times before. They aren't allowed to innovate and be themseleves and get htemselves over.

[Juan]

If you don't watch it then you can't be positive.

Plus, it's a given that ROH is better than WWE, as far as wrestling goes. We get it, man.

[owenbrown]

I rather watch this video on a continuous loop for 2 hours than this shit on RAW right now...


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[Savio]

I don't think I really mentioned Smackdown or ECW at all though?
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If WWE had no plans for storylines for tonight they could have booked an Iron man match atleast.....HBK vs Y2J.

[Indifferent Clox]

Because everyone here has always been here and has always read every thread about ROH. If you don't understand how forus work how can you be a mod? who is we?


anyway I have watched on and off, and I will admit it is at least 100000 times better than raw, the wrestling could be so much better if vince got his head out of his ass and realized that just because he can sell shit and be profitable it doesnt mean he has too. He would be more profitable if the wrestling made people watnt to watch who haven't ever watched before, which, in my experience is waht ROH and PWG do.

I show those to my friends and they actually like wrestling. I show them WWE, even old school attitude era and the first words out of their mouth are usually something regarding how 'fake' it all looks.

[Skippord]

sweet main event tonight

[Juan]

Because everyone here has always been here and has always read every thread about ROH. If you don't understand how forus work how can you be a mod? who is we?

What? :?:

[Indifferent Clox]

that is jericho

[Emperor Smeat]

LOL jericho, he really hid his voice well.

[Indifferent Clox]

You said we get it already. As if you want me to stop plugging ROH, because whoever this we is gets it already. obviously not everyone gets it or ROH and PWG would be the main talk of these forums.

[Savio]

Next week Jerishow vs 10 midgets

[Indifferent Clox]

i realized it was jericho as soon as he came out, but i wasn't sure with that voice.

[Drakul]

He sounded a lot like Stewie Griffin to me but I could still tell it was Jericho.

[Savio]

Throw him in the crowd!!!

[Indifferent Clox]

ok so when DX do it it's cool but when big show does it it's an asshole move?

[Savio]

he stole foleys move

[Skippord]

You said we get it already. As if you want me to stop plugging ROH, because whoever this we is gets it already. obviously not everyone gets it or ROH and PWG would be the main talk of these forums.
not everyone wants to watch ROH or PWG

you numbskull

[Savio]

Where are their titles?

[Juan]

You said we get it already. As if you want me to stop plugging ROH, because whoever this we is gets it already. obviously not everyone gets it or ROH and PWG would be the main talk of these forums.

What does that have to do with me knowing how "forus" work or me being a mod??

[Juan]

not everyone wants to watch ROH or PWG

you numbskull

I love ROH, but Skip is right.

[Savio]

lol some crowd guy said "super kick him"

[Skippord]

I also love ROH btw

and Raw is starting to make me feel bad about myself

[Favre4Ever]

lol terrible

[Savio]

I wish the "40 year old virgin" movie was on first

[Emperor Smeat]

Raw overall was a big meh but this time not because of the guest host being bad or awkward but how badly booked the whole show was.

Did like how the Miz hinted he might want to go after the heavyweight title as his net goal and the 6 man match was decent but the rest of the show either fell flat or was horrible.

[Indifferent Clox]

holy shiiit i never said that everyone would like it. You said we get it. You made it seem like that because i've posted something in any number of places that whoever this 'we' is already gets that ROH and PWG are better. This isn't the case. A lot of people are new to TPWW and probably don't read ROH related threads. If you don't get what i am trying to say at this point it's pretty much impossible for me to explain it any better.


a) who is we?
b) this group (the we) that understand that ROH and PWG are better, they get it, but there are a lot of people who probably still haven't even heard of ROH on this website. Not everyone reads every thread.
c)that is all

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

No buddy likes asswads who always talk about the same shit. We've read your posts stating how amazing this indy stuff is, and we believe you. But at the same time, like Skippord said, people just don't want to watch it.


SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

[Indifferent Clox]

oh and because this is the raw thread, and because this was one of the worst raws ever i was trying to put over ROH as an excellent alternative.

and skippord. Not everyone wants to watch wresting period, but as long as they are here I'd like to promote the promotions that keep me interested.

[Juan]

We is all the people who never reply to your threads in the wrestling forum.

[Indifferent Clox]

who is this we? I'm almost positive there are newbs every day or at least weekly. So what, are they going through the forum history and checking to see what clox had to say about some promotion they've never heard of? wtf the forums are moving things they aren't stagnant. I'm gonna plug them untill they start to suck, if you have a fucking problem with that fucking ban me.



also fuck my m key i have to slam my finger on it for it to work :(

[Cool King]

I've got two words for everyone....

Raw Sucked.

[Juan]

Dude, shut the fuck about we. Way to over analyze.

[Indifferent Clox]

hell fucking yes it did

[RatedGSuperstar]

The only thing this show did is make me scared for the stupid shit they're going to pull if/when Hart hosts. Something epic could be on the horizon and all I can think about is how they're going to screw this up.

If they tried to put a show like this on in the northeast they would've been booed out of the building. Not only did the Little People Court thing go on for way too long, but they replayed it almost in its entirety a couple more times in the show, what little wrestling there was on the show was sloppy and predictable, and the guest host was visibly reading off-screen cue cards during the backstage segments.

[Indifferent Clox]

/jsfndhaioud

[erickman]

4 pages for a raw thread, damn. i wish tna started there monday night show tonight giants blow out redskins an wwe has midgets.

[LuigiD]

I hope they have been slacking so that when Hart comes around they can go all out because seriously..that shit was awful.

[RKO'em]

I liked the Cena/Swagger match. Everything else was brutal. What the fuck gives?

[Gertner]

ROH is pretty shit right now. They have no credible main event talent whatsoever and wouldn't be surprised if they shutdown soon. Watching a bunch of spot monkey's flip is only entertaining for so long. Briscoe's are leaving, Young Bucks are leaving. There's nobody really left. ROH is like ECW circa 2001.

[Sixx]

That really sounds like a horrible RAW.

Also, Johnny Damon is that Reavant lookalike, yes?

[DAMN iNATOR]

Seems like a pretty dumb idea to waste Cena/Sheamus for the WWE Championship on next week's show. It's basically a lose-lose for the non-Cena camp, because if Cena wins by either pin or submission, well, it's back to normal on RAW, including Cena's non-stop blatant self promotion: THE CHAMP. IS. HE-UH! Yeah, OK, John, we got it the first 815,967,234 times ya said it.

Other scenario: Sheamus wins and we see Cena week after week on RAW, "going undefeated", until he's either won back the title, is wrestling his own fucking shadow, or he gives up. (Note: The last scenario, Cena giving up? Yeah, not gonna happen, unfortunately).

[Savio]

They should have pushed back the Title match to 1/4 so it leaves a draw for that show.

[thejamminone]

I thought Raw was'nt too bad, most of the matches were good.

[The Pope]

I thought the ending was horrible. ughh