Monday Night War 2010 Ratings [Archive]

Nicky Fives

01-05-2010, 06:50 PM

http://www.tpww.net/2010/01/early-tna-impact-wwe-raw-rating-are-in/

"Word is going around that last night’s live 3-hour edition of TNA iMPACT! drew a 1.5 average cable rating for the entire show. At this time, ratings data is not available for the individual hours or quarter hours, but it will be released shortly.

WWE RAW did a 3.37 which is not good at all for Bret Hart’s return. More shortly."

This makes me exteremly happy..... Hogan's dreams of a 3.0 were completely unfounded..... but did anyone even think that TNA pulling a 3.0 was even possible?

FearedSanctity

01-05-2010, 06:51 PM

but did anyone even think that TNA pulling a 3.0 was even possible?

Pretty sure no one bought that, not even TNA or Spike, seeing as how their goal was to just get their normal rating

wwe2222

01-05-2010, 06:52 PM

not at all, but a 1.5 on a Monday night against Raw with a returning Bret Hart isnt too shabby.

Xero

01-05-2010, 06:53 PM

Wow, TNA took a lot away from WWE. I have no doubt WWE would have been a 4 if they weren't against TNA.

Londoner

01-05-2010, 06:54 PM

Not surprised, TNA had the better show overall. WWE just relied on one or two big segments.

Haze

01-05-2010, 06:58 PM

I wasn't really surprised with either rating. WWE really felt like buisness as usual for most of the night, with a few bright moments, but everytime you turned the channel to TNA someone else would show up. Now if they could maintain a 1.5 for a month or two, then I would be impressed.

Xero

01-05-2010, 06:59 PM

I think the bigger question is how much of the audience switched over for RAW. I want to see the first hour's rating.

Haze

01-05-2010, 07:00 PM

I think the bigger question is how much of the audience switched over for RAW. I want to see the first hour's rating.

yea Hart vs Hogan should pull some interesting numbers.

thedamndest

01-05-2010, 07:01 PM

They were both going up the Fiesta Bowl also.

parkmania

01-05-2010, 07:06 PM

The bigger questions for TNA:

1) What was Spike pulling in from other shows in the same timeslot?
2) What will Spike pull next week with the UFC?

These are the main questions which, when answered, may lead to an actual Monday Night War 2 instead of just a Monday Night One-Off.

RVDmark

01-05-2010, 07:07 PM

not at all, but a 1.5 on a Monday night against Raw with a returning Bret Hart isnt too shabby.

:y:

Xero

01-05-2010, 07:08 PM

They were both going up the Fiesta Bowl also.

So what you're saying is that Cena won the night.

jerichoholicninja

01-05-2010, 07:24 PM

Halbowsky

01-05-2010, 07:35 PM

And what will TNA's ratings be like next week and the week after?

FearedSanctity

01-05-2010, 07:41 PM

MORE ON TNA IMPACT SPECIAL RATING, HOW VIEWERSHIP COMPARED TO RAW

By Mike Johnson (mike@pwinsider.com) on 2010-01-05 19:18:47
 Multichannel News reported that while TNA set a viewing record with 2.2 million viewers for last night's Impact special, World Wrestling Entertainment's Monday Night Raw featured a viewership of 5.5 million viewers.

The article noted that the first hour of Impact was viewed by 2.5 million viewers. Last night's special was the highest rated Impact ever, surpassing an April 2008 episode that drew 1.9 million viewers.
To read the article, click here (http://www.multichannel.com/article/442581-Spike_s_TNA_Wrestling_Special_Draws_2_2_Million_Viewers_.php).

Nicky Fives

01-05-2010, 07:47 PM

I don't think 1.5 is that great, as their average viewership is around 1.0-1.3, so theoretically they only stole 0.2 of the ratings from WWE.... which is still a bit of a stretch

FearedSanctity

01-05-2010, 07:50 PM

I really don't think they were aiming to steal from Raw, if they were they'd have done it on a day where they weren't going against Raw AND the Fiesta Bowl. Pretty sure this was just more of a test to see if they could hold their own, which they did and then some

Lock Jaw

01-05-2010, 07:59 PM

I want to see a breakdown of the ratings by the segment. :shifty:

Steveviscious89

01-05-2010, 08:03 PM

FearedSanctity

01-05-2010, 08:11 PM

By James Caldwell, Torch assistant editor

Monday's edition of WWE Raw featuring Bret Hart's return averaged 5.60 million viewers, which was the largest viewing audience since the August 24 Raw the night after Summerslam.

The show drew a very strong rating among males 18-49, drawing a 3.37 rating in the key demo. That was the highest M18-49 rating since the commercial-free Raw on June 22 averaged a 3.71 rating.

Other than the commercial-free Raw, the last time Raw drew a M18-49 demo rating greater than last night's Raw was the April 6 Raw the night after WrestleMania 26.

Last night's edition of TNA Impact drew a 1.50 rating and averaged 2.20 million viewers over the course of three hours to be TNA's most-watched Impact episode ever.

Impact peaked with 2.90 million viewers for the 9:00 to 9:15 p.m. EST quarter-hour with Hulk Hogan's debut opposite WWE Raw opening with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

TNA's previous high rating was a 1.33 rating and 1.97 million viewers on the April 2 Impact prior to WWE's WrestleMania weekend.

Xero

01-05-2010, 08:14 PM

Who cares about the freakin break down? You're talking about an overall improvement in ratings going against the competition. Regardless of the breakdown, they were successful...end of story. Now, moving the show back to Thursday could cause things to waver a little bit, as well as the fact that not every show will be as big as that one.

Wrong. Let's say the first hour was a 2.3 for argument's sake. That would mean .8 viewer ship loss.

That extra hour bumps the rest of the night up unopposed to RAW. It's the two hours AGAINST RAW which should be of concern.

thedamndest

01-05-2010, 08:17 PM

I would love for TNA to stay on Monday and run commercials on USA for the Impact that is happening that night during Raw.

Kane Knight

01-05-2010, 11:53 PM

but did anyone even think that TNA pulling a 3.0 was even possible?
A few tards here seemed to think WWE was going to be rivaled. I wouldn't doubt tons of the TNA marks also thought it.

But nobody realistic thought it.

But WWE didn't do bad with Bret Hart at the Helm. With popular programming on elsewhere (Fiesta Bowl, Heroes, etc.), with a trend where they were doing less than 3.0 on several nights recently, this could be a good night.

Though the reported numbers tend to be high, and I wouldn't be surprised if Raw drew a 3.0....

FearedSanctity

01-06-2010, 12:47 AM

Dave Meltzer (http://www.f4wonline.com/) reports that Impact did a 1.5 rating as previously reported. The show did hours of 1.7, 1.4 and 1.2. TNA was very happy with the numbers, even though it isn't good that they dropped from hour to hour. But that was expected.

- There is no number for Raw yet, but with the 5.6 million viewers the show did, the rating should be a 3.7 or 3.8. The feeling is that TNA cost WWE a half-point in the ratings, maybe more. The strong first hour for TNA carried over to the second.

- After the segment with Hogan, Hall, Waltman, Nash and Bischoff there was a significant drop in the numbers, as many people turned into Raw.

- At this point it seems like a lock that TNA will run Monday nights again due to the strong rating they drew last night and the buzz that TNA now has. It could be very good for the business to have TNA air Monday nights and TNA on Mondays may become permanent.

Xero

01-06-2010, 12:49 AM

If they can get Spike to go along with it, I could see them running Monday every other week. They already tape on Monday as it is, and the second taping is the next day.

I think WWE did it this way for a while with RAW.

Mr. Nerfect

01-06-2010, 02:03 AM

Apparently the higher-ups at Spike would have been happy if TNA had gotten a 1.0. That they (reportedly) managed to half-way double that is impressive. Spike TV will be happy with this, and things look great for TNA's growth. Considering TNA was going against Bret Hart, the Fiesta Bowl, etc. and they managed to have their biggest numbers is a good sign for them.

KayfabeMan

01-06-2010, 02:04 AM

Good showing in the ratings from TNA; though they need to step up their game still with the bookings and the wasted time. The frequent commercial breaks seem to be a major problem as well, as they're losing people from what I have seen and read during all of those frequent time outs.

The show overall I think was superior to the product RAW put out against it.

Also, I see where they are going with Styles and a few others - but they need to cut some of Hogan's dead weight bring-alongs, like Orlando Jordan, Val Venis, etc. and get rid of some of these guys like Tomko, etc. who are just not needed there. They should be more focused, and hopefully they will become so, on getting talents that are worth putting on the broadcasts - ones who can actually perform in the ring / on the mic. Hope these guys are just temporary.

I'd love to see them continue pushing the tag division, and bringing in older teams every now and again for 1-2 shot deals. Like the Nastys, Steiners, Too Cool, The Bashams, F.B.I., Faces of Fear, Headshrinkers, The Mamalukes, etc. To keep pushing the new talent against these established teams and build some great new teams in the process.

Also, tighten up the X-Division and get rid of Homicide.

FearedSanctity

01-06-2010, 02:34 AM

Most people seem worried about the way things could be going with how Monday night went, as far as booking. I think it's too early to judge yet.

I'm sure Monday they felt the need to cram all these names in as fast and best possible while also showing off some of their homegrown talent, with wrestling sadly taking a major back seat. The next show may be more of the same, but after that it SHOULD start to normalize, then we can judge how everything is effecting their booking.

Anyone who expected Monday to have been anything other than a name cramming session was being overly hopeful.

The Mackem

01-06-2010, 02:40 AM

The Hogan I know of old would have pointed to officials and said that he was the reason the ratings were higher in the first hour. Probably would have got extra $$$ and another title reign because of it as well. We'll see how this one turns out.

kareru

01-06-2010, 01:01 PM

Tna did a 1.7 in the first hour and probably the most marking out i have done in a few years

Emperor Smeat

01-06-2010, 11:49 PM

"Impact peaked with 2.90 million viewers for the 9:00 to 9:15 p.m. EST quarter-hour with Hulk Hogan's debut opposite WWE Raw opening with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels."

I guess Hogan was sort of correct of being able to reach a 3.0 rating since his segment managed to come very close to it but not the whole show overall.

FearedSanctity

01-06-2010, 11:53 PM

1 million viewers =/= 1 ratings point.

2.9 million would be about a 1.7-1.8 rating

RAWs 3.5 first hour rating = 5.4 million viewers

Emperor Smeat

01-07-2010, 12:03 AM

Forgot all about viewers not being 1:1 with ratings

FearedSanctity

01-07-2010, 12:10 AM

Still, Hogan was almost able to double Impact's normal ratings, so it still counts for something I'd say

Kane Knight

01-07-2010, 12:48 AM

Still, Hogan was almost able to double Impact's normal ratings, so it still counts for something I'd say

I think it actually did double. their usual ratings, at a .9 on a Thursday, is somewhere around a million or maybe 1.2. Assuming, of course, I remember correctly.

A Monday Night, especially one with a big football game, you need more viewers to get the same rating. Getting their usual .8-.9 would mean an increase, and getting a higher rating, like say the supposed 1.6, would mean a much higher number of viewers.

2.9 million viewers is an amazing increase. One that would look bigger if it was on the same night as usual. They'd have to be averaging 1.5 million a night to not have doubled their numbers, and I'm almost positive they weren't getting that.

Though, there was a lot that went into that, not just Hogan. And they can't keep injecting "names" like they did.

Dave Youell

01-07-2010, 03:48 AM

If TNA did do a 1.7 for the first hour, that's better than some Smackdown shows have done in the past and totally destroyed Superstars and ECW ratings,

The main issue here is that most people tuned in to see what would happen in terms of new faces, it didn't disappoint, and was a very good show, however, they can't do that every week, it's impossible, so IF they were to go head to head each week, they need a plan B to keep people interested

FourFifty

01-07-2010, 10:55 PM

This makes me exteremly happy..... Hogan's dreams of a 3.0 were completely unfounded..... but did anyone even think that TNA pulling a 3.0 was even possible?

I think Hogan did :shifty:

Xero

01-07-2010, 11:07 PM

I don't think even Hogan believes his own hype, let alone TNA's.

Kane86

01-07-2010, 11:11 PM

I thought TNA had the better show on Monday period. All the usless cameos were not needed but That Hug between Shawn and Bret was forced.

Kane86

01-07-2010, 11:11 PM

Yes Hogan well end up hurting the company in the long Run His Jiz Rag Brain Knobbs needs to be fired NOW!

Kane86

01-07-2010, 11:14 PM

Hornswoggle and all these fucking skits and calling the selves entertainers is killing them in the long run and having the Miz cut 30 minute promos is not needed at all. I wish I had HDNet. ROH Needs to lead the Pack WWE and TNA are just going to destroy it.

Kane Knight

01-08-2010, 01:14 PM

Yes Hogan well end up hurting the company in the long Run His Jiz Rag Brain Knobbs needs to be fired NOW!

Can anyone translate this into English?

Or at least, "not retard?"

Kane Knight

01-08-2010, 01:15 PM

Kane Knight

01-18-2010, 06:32 PM

Neilsen Media Research says Raw did hours of 3.2 and 3.0, making an overall of 3.3X unlikely.

It's kind of worth noting the effect Bret Hart had on Raw:

None. At best, the big Bret moment may have kept the ratings stable against the Fiesta Bowl, but Raw was consistent with prior nights with competition.

I doubt TNA even factored in.

Honestly, I'm relatively unsurprised.