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aaronkyle86
04-11-2004, 12:29 PM
I hope this is the right place to post this... Sorry if it is the wrong place... Be gentle.

I went to a local indy federation last night called Bad to the Bone Wrestling and in the first match, I saw something I'll never forget.

Two guys were going at it in the ring and the heel got a chair and DQed himself by hitting the other guy with it. He kept doing it until another big face ran out and 'saved' him. Then, he turned around and began beating the guy with a chair himself... I thought he was tryign to kill him with the chairshots to the back of the head. He must have hit him in the back of the head AT LEAST 20 times. The guy getting hit fell on the outside and blood was squirting out of the back of his head. They were saying he had a gash in his head about an inch deep. With all the blood coming out so fast, I thought he was seriously gonna die.
Later we found out that none of this was planned, and the guy was trying to get revenge for running his mouth and costing him a few other bookings for other indy feds.
Do you think he went too far? Or is it just me?

Rob
04-11-2004, 12:32 PM
Assault charge there at least. Probably even an attempted murder.

Blue Demon
04-11-2004, 12:39 PM
That's too far IMO.

HHHsucks929
04-11-2004, 02:10 PM
That's way too far IMO. I wouldn't even recommend anyone doing that to Triple H.

Dazz
04-11-2004, 02:30 PM
you'd have thought someone would have broken it up if it was real.

Sephiroth
04-11-2004, 02:31 PM
He went way to far IMO.

El Santo
04-11-2004, 02:52 PM
you'd have thought someone would have broken it up if it was real.

I'm thinking everyone else, including the other wrestlers, thought it was an angle, too. :(

thuganomicalcrippler
04-11-2004, 03:05 PM
This is one of the MILLIONS of hazards of pro wrestling. Don't try this at home, kids.

Kane Knight
04-11-2004, 03:10 PM
I'm thinking everyone else, including the other wrestlers, thought it was an angle, too. :(
It'd be easy to make the mistake, especially in a small federation where you might not be privvy to everything.

that being said, the guy needs to be slapped with an aggravated assault charge and neutered with a bowling bowl.

Rock Bottom
04-11-2004, 03:39 PM
That's sick. (Not in the cool way. In the sick way.)

natureboycv
04-11-2004, 03:40 PM
<font color=8307ff><b>Yeah too far.</font></b>

Corkscrewed
04-11-2004, 04:50 PM
Inexcusable. That guy should go to jail.

Kane Knight
04-11-2004, 04:52 PM
Inexcusable. That guy should go to jail and be chain raped by all the child molesters.

The Ravishing One
04-11-2004, 05:03 PM
That's sick. (Not in the cool way. In the sick way.)

The Ravishing One
04-11-2004, 05:04 PM
:lol: at Kane Knight

PureHatred
04-11-2004, 05:13 PM
This went way too far. To the point where I can't see someone justifiably defending the attacker.

And shouldn't the guy booking the event have known something was wrong? I know its an indy fed, but wasn't somebody in charge?

Kane Knight
04-11-2004, 05:18 PM
Somebody should have known. I'm only going to defend the notion that most people wouldn't have.

It's a piss-poor federation if NOBODY had a clue.

OssMan
04-11-2004, 05:26 PM
What a douche. Seriously.

Mr. Nerfect
04-11-2004, 05:37 PM
I think that definately went to far. Doing something like that shouldn't be justifyed under any means. Hope the injured guy is alright, and gets better soon. That should be a serious charge. Attempted Murder sounds good,b ut he was just probably trying to hurt him. Still sick though. :(

Funky Fly
04-11-2004, 06:00 PM
Absolutely disgusting.

Fox
04-12-2004, 12:10 AM
He shouldn't have been running his mouth...

PureHatred
04-12-2004, 01:07 AM
Please say this is a joke. At no point can you justify taking a steel chair to somebody's head, wounding them, and putting them in mortal danger in order to stop them from "running their mouth."

And he wasn't even a man about it. If you're going to say that somebody talking shit deserves to get their ass icked, ok. But he didn't go up to this guy, call him out, and beat him down. He waited until his target was basically defenseless, then ambushed him. For all we know from this story, the guy who got beaten may have thought it was all an angle, so he didn't think to resist until he was getting his brains bashed in.

Wrong on so many levels.

Kane Knight
04-12-2004, 01:10 AM
Please say this is a joke. At no point can you justify taking a steel chair to somebody's head, wounding them, and putting them in mortal danger in order to stop them from "running their mouth."

And he wasn't even a man about it. If you're going to say that somebody talking shit deserves to get their ass icked, ok. But he didn't go up to this guy, call him out, and beat him down. He waited until his target was basically defenseless, then ambushed him. For all we know from this story, the guy who got beaten may have thought it was all an angle, so he didn't think to resist until he was getting his brains bashed in.

Wrong on so many levels.
Well said.

Savio
04-12-2004, 01:18 AM
fire him

KayfabeMan
04-12-2004, 01:20 AM
It's shit like this that puts what few indies are left in even more danger than they already are in. Indies are being forced to close down as it is thanks to the 'WWE takeover' of pro-wrestling,and then you have assholes like Rob Feinstein,and "competitors" like this guy who put even blacker eyes on things.

Word gets around about stuff like that,and people refuse to have events like this in their facilities; and with no facilities available,it forces any potential promoters out of the game before they can get in it,and forces current promoters out as well.Nevermind the big chain it causes,since workers can't get any work at all in their area; and with no shows,a lot of fans turn away from wrestling (like what happened when ECW and WCW closed).

mitch_h
04-12-2004, 01:35 AM
My trainer does teach us little things to do in the ring to get back at a guy who is stiffing you or whatever. But never does it include hitting someone in the back of the head with a chair. Way too far.

Kane Knight
04-12-2004, 01:39 AM
Yeah, there are steps.

Being a jerk back to someone in the ring is one thing...

Nearly killing him is another...

Boondock Saint
04-12-2004, 01:40 AM
WTF

Savio
04-12-2004, 01:48 AM
My trainer does teach us little things to do in the ring to get back at a guy who is stiffing you or whatever. But never does it include hitting someone in the back of the head with a chair. Way too far.
like not selling a move, spiting on him, or flamming sledge hammer.

Kris P Lettus
04-12-2004, 04:34 AM
Was it New Jack??

If so, it's cool..

If not, arrest the fuc</>ker!!1!

:shifty:

CBright7831
04-12-2004, 05:00 AM
That's way too far IMO. I wouldn't even recommend anyone doing that to Triple H.
Me neither....well.....nah.

:shifty:

darkpower
04-12-2004, 06:00 AM
I think that would go too far. Something like what Holly did to Capotelli is one thing (and Matt got his revenge in OVW, if I'm not mistaken, by beating him in a match, by the way), but doing this to someone? NO one deserves that.

Yeah, I know, internet fans sometimes wish that someone got killed or something, but none of them litterly mean to actually go out and murder the guy (though I sometimes question how sane a few of these internet fans actually are these days), and we DON'T approve of that. At the least, the guy should be terminated IMMEDIATLY, and at most, face jail time for possibly battery charges and more. That shouldn't be allowed or tolerated in any fed, and the act of no one seeing that something was very much out of the ordinary there shows how out of the loop officials there are. Not only am I surprised that no one stopped this guy if it was a shoot, but I'm also shocked that no one cared that there was even a backstage DISPUTE beforehand between the two in question. If you saw someone who was angry and another person enough to even CONSIDER that, would you say something to prevent it from happening? I know I would be the FIRST to say something.

SuperSlim
04-12-2004, 10:57 AM
that goes beyond the mat... way too far... this is someone's life at hand as well as their career.

Shaggy
04-12-2004, 11:15 AM
holy crap....that had to be brutal.

Mikey
04-12-2004, 11:42 AM
Way too far. what a dick

blake639raw
04-12-2004, 11:46 AM
Hopefully the prick gets what is coming to him. I hope they let him back to wrestle, and all the boys gang up on his ass, and paralyze him. That shit is just inexcusable. There is NO excuse for something like this. :nono:

aaronkyle86
04-12-2004, 12:26 PM
The attacker was the indy fed's World Champion named Vic the Bruiser. From what it looks like, he wont be getting punished at all.
I forgot to mention one other thing. After the guy got up, he went backstage to confront Vic and Vic punched him in the mouth and threw him down some stairs. If nothing is done about this, then I'm never going to BBW again.

BTW, The website to the fed is www.bbwwrestling.net They didn't mention anything about the attack and just said "Dr. X was easily defeated..."

Razor Rybek
04-12-2004, 06:16 PM
The guys got issues obviously, dishing out that kinda punishment for mouthing off is way way too harsh, if this happened in WWE everytime someone opened there mouth backstage, we'd have like 4 dead wrestlers per week.<p>
The sad thing is, the freak who did it is now getting more exposure than he could of dreamed of, people talking bout him on the net and all that. doubt it'll help his career though

Nark Order
04-13-2004, 01:52 AM
Yeah, that is rediculously too far. He could have ended the guys life...

Corkscrewed
04-13-2004, 02:18 AM
The attacker was the indy fed's World Champion named Vic the Bruiser. From what it looks like, he wont be getting punished at all.
I forgot to mention one other thing. After the guy got up, he went backstage to confront Vic and Vic punched him in the mouth and threw him down some stairs. If nothing is done about this, then I'm never going to BBW again.

BTW, The website to the fed is www.bbwwrestling.net They didn't mention anything about the attack and just said "Dr. X was easily defeated..."

Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. :n:

Kane Knight
04-13-2004, 03:01 AM
The guys got issues obviously, dishing out that kinda punishment for mouthing off is way way too harsh, if this happened in WWE everytime someone opened there mouth backstage, we'd have like 4 dead wrestlers per week. And nobody on the roster deserves that...Even Trips and Bob Holly.

c4g2
04-13-2004, 05:03 AM
Have Show and Rikishi sit on Vic... He deserves it.

The Outlaw
04-13-2004, 02:54 PM
Who was the guy that got attacked?

aaronkyle86
04-13-2004, 05:28 PM
The guy who got attacked went by the name of "Dr. X". Usually he is a security guard but I guess there were a few wrestlers that didnt come since it was Easter, so they had to use him.

Gone Mad
04-14-2004, 12:19 AM
Dam that injustice. I also agree that he went too far,no one deserved this, and maybe should receive a taste of his own medicine.

CBright7831
04-14-2004, 01:06 AM
This bastard deserves to be chopped up into pieces and mailed to his family.

Fox
04-17-2004, 03:10 PM
Please say this is a joke. At no point can you justify taking a steel chair to somebody's head, wounding them, and putting them in mortal danger in order to stop them from "running their mouth."

And he wasn't even a man about it. If you're going to say that somebody talking shit deserves to get their ass icked, ok. But he didn't go up to this guy, call him out, and beat him down. He waited until his target was basically defenseless, then ambushed him. For all we know from this story, the guy who got beaten may have thought it was all an angle, so he didn't think to resist until he was getting his brains bashed in.

Wrong on so many levels.

Yeah, it was a joke, as I had hoped would be indicated by the "..." after my comment.

YOUR Hero
04-18-2004, 12:55 AM
It'll probably land him a job with WWE

King Jericho
04-18-2004, 05:15 PM
The politics in wrestling has been well documented at times, and some of the stuff that goes on backstage within no doubt all wrestling events is very heated. Myself being a British Indy worker, I see first hand what can happen with wrestlers ego's backstage, for me it can ruin a good night, if the shows gone well.

I did a show for a promotion I regulary work for in Britain, the Combat Sports Federation, now having being in the company for around 2 years (Wrestling proper matches for just ove a year now) this last show I did the atmophere backstage was the best backstage atmosphere I've ever been in, because several workers who usually cause the trouble weren't working.

The point is things between guys can be very heated backstage at times, but when getting into the ring, you should be professional about it, the most you'll get in a stiff match, but you just have to get on with it, this situation seems to me like its a work, I know you said that you found out it isn't, but it probably is, being the Bad to the bone promotion or whatever its called there probably quite hardcore and this was a work. The guy just might of gone a little far by hitting hit that many times. :y:

Rock Bottom
04-19-2004, 06:17 AM
Holy shit. This isn't related directly to this subject, but I thought to post it here. I was downloading a bunch of wrestling clips, furthering my library... And decided tonight I felt like downloading some ECW matches. Well, I found a few music videos as well, I usually download those when I can because there are alot of sick moves packed into one video.

Oh my god, I winced. One of them was entitled, "Wrestling Isn't Fake." The first ten seconds weren't for the weak at heart. Just watching them had my heart pounding, my adrenalin pumping... What did that to me so randomly, you ask?

There was a guy with a pair of scissors outside the ring. He had a handful of this guy's hair. He takes the scissors, and slits the guy's forehead. No, I did not say nick, I said SLIT, as in, you SLIT someone's throat, blood gushes out. The guy has the most agonizing scream I have ever heard in my life.

THEN, right after that, the mother fuc</>ker slits the guy's arm three quarters of the way around. Again, I stress, SLITS his arm. They show clips of the guy profusely bleeding, and I swear to god the skin was loose and open all along his arm, and was FLABBING. It was wrong. It was very wrong.

PM me if you have AIM and want to see the clip. Also, kids, don't do drugs, some shit just does not belong in wrestling.

Goldbird
04-19-2004, 07:30 AM
^^^

That's plain nasty. Even criminals serving life-long sentences arent so cruel...

aaronkyle86
04-24-2004, 03:13 PM
Sorry to bump this topic up, but I thought I'd give a little update on the situation.

I have a friend who knows the guy who got hurt. Apparently the guy who got hurt had to go to the hospital and get over 120 stitches and some staples in the back of his head. He also has gone to the court house and is trying to sue BBW.

My brother is currently looking into getting some professional wrestling training so he talked to the owner of BBW about maybe getting some from there. While they were talking, my brother brought up the incident and the owner responded "I watched that tape over and over and I never saw him get hit in the head. Not once." After that, he quickly changed the subject. He must think we're stupid because we were sitting in the very front row and saw everything that happened. It sounds to me like the owner knew this was going to happen and was probably in on it too.

It makes me sick to know there are people like this who could care less about somebody's life.