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Buzzkill
01-12-2010, 07:16 PM
So it looks like Fox is rebooting the Spider-Man series now that Raimi dropped out of #4...
My first thought when I read about this was that they were going to take it in some awful new direction, probably making it "gritty and realistic"...
Turns out I was right. That's exactly what they're doing.
I'm not a big comic book fan, but rather a casual lover of movies in general. But holy shit, this is the worst idea I have ever heard.
The very concept of Spider-Man makes the concept of a gritty, stripped down version of the story a disaster from the get go.
How is anybody going to take the story remotely seriously? Spiderman is such an absurd concept to begin with, taking away the "comic book feel" of it will just serve to highlight this fact.
Thoughts from actual Spider Man fans?
PorkSoda
01-12-2010, 07:29 PM
Heard that Tobey dropped out of it as well.
I'm not an "actual" Spider Man fan, but I also think it's really stupid.
XCaliber
01-12-2010, 07:31 PM
Not only do I think the reboot is too soon but isn't necessery I'm glad that Raimi stuck to his guns and proved just how stupid some of the execs at Sony are.
I couldn't really care less, been pretty indifferent to the Spiderman films. Will 'give it a chance'
Inadequacy
01-12-2010, 07:44 PM
Well I've been a spiderman my whole life but only regularly started collecting the comics around the time brand new day began, because I never had access to a comic store until grade 11.
I think you're right that spider-man works best with a light hearted tone, but stories like New Ways to Die and the Gauntlet prove that he can work with a gritty darker tone. I mean his life still revolves around the death of his uncle, that's pretty dark.
I guess all in all I'd enjoy the movie either way.
Kane Knight
01-12-2010, 07:49 PM
I'm glad Raim's gone.
Since Raimi's version was stripped down from the get-go, I'm not sure what the bitching is about. But I'm sure there will be more bitching still.
Buzzkill
01-12-2010, 07:54 PM
Thing is that it still had that fantastical, comic-book feel to it. If it goes the way of the The Dark Knight, I don't think anybody will be able to take it seriously
Spider-Man's powers are just too wacky
Brujesino
01-12-2010, 08:14 PM
this is a horrible idea
there gonna go back to high school and start the story from there..why?everyone already know who spiderman is wew dont need them to go back in time and tell us
they are also saying that they want to appeal more to the twilight fan base
so there you go this movie will suck major ass
thedamndest
01-12-2010, 08:22 PM
I will watch this movie when it is available for free online or at a friend's home. Until then, I will complain moderately.
Savio
01-12-2010, 08:25 PM
It is to soon for a reboot
parkmania
01-12-2010, 09:06 PM
Well, we've still got Broadway...
The oft-delayed big budget musical, Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark, may finally get its spot on the Great White Way, though it won’t open until this coming fall. Michael Riedel of the New York Post reports that Bono’s business partner Michael Cole “has stepped in to clean up the mess,” and that the “financing is now in place, with a chunk coming from Disney, which recently acquired Marvel Comics.” Bono of U2 and The Edge provided the music for the show, which will star newcomer Reeve Carney as Spidey and Alan Cumming as The Green Goblin.
Disney’s backing makes sense, since Spider-Man is now one of the studio’s prime assets. The mouse house also has lots of Broadway experience as well, having worked with Spider-Man Turn Off the Dark director Julie Taymor on the stage adaptation of The Lion King. The Spidey musical, which features all sorts of complex aerial work to recreate the webslinger’s swinging from building to building across Manhattan, is the most expensive show in the history of Broadway with a price tag north of $50 million just for development.
The current plan is for the show to hold previews in September and then open in November.
Jon Kano
01-12-2010, 09:28 PM
Hopefully, and eventually, someone with enough hate for this will start some kind of petition or something illustrating to Sony how fucking stupid they are being and what a mistake it will be and they will just let Raimi get on with it.
Boondock Saint
01-13-2010, 01:36 PM
Taylor Lautner as Spiderman
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:00 PM
This might not be so bad.
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:06 PM
Kylax likes it, so it much be awful.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:09 PM
I also like you.
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:13 PM
And we all know I'm crap.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:17 PM
Anyway, kinda surprised at the reaction to this. I seem to remember people having issues with Spidey 3 and the core cast in general. All of a sudden the net seems to mourn a reboot they practically begged for since Spidey 3.
Funny how fans work.
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:23 PM
They wanted a good reboot, not just anything. retard.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:28 PM
You don't know that this is "anything". Dumbass.
The Jayman
01-13-2010, 03:29 PM
Never cared for Spiderman
I will say this, and this only:
Any REAL Spider-Man movie will feature a running voice over by Peter Parker throughout the entire film, and 60% of Spider-Man's lines will be snappy, smart-ass one-liners (100% when he's fighting).
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:32 PM
You don't know that this is "anything". Dumbass.
Neither do you. Point is a a gritty stripped down spinderman sounds retarded. Wanting a different verision than what was made and wantinging a good verision are different things.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Neither do you.
Hence "might". Comprehension, BDC. Comprehension.
This might not be so bad.
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:39 PM
I comprehended the might. And I know it won't be good.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:41 PM
But you own a Wii.
BigDaddyCool
01-13-2010, 03:45 PM
So.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 03:48 PM
What? You own a Wii, right?
Buzzkill
01-13-2010, 07:27 PM
You are not a real nerd if you own a wii!!!!
Jeritron
01-13-2010, 10:28 PM
Obviously he's going to like it. It's based on Marvel Comics. I've yet to see him say anything moderately negative about in-development comic movies on here.
No offense Kalyx, just sayin. You seem to love your comic projects and defend them vigilantly
Jeritron
01-13-2010, 10:32 PM
It could be good though, he is right. I'd say it has potential as long as they don't try to make it too dark, or too teeny bop like Twilight or that MTV Spiderman cartoon.
The chances are, they'll do one or all of those things.
It could be good if they build the whole thing to be balls to the wall like the comics, and planned it in advance. I wouldn't mind seeing Kingpin and some of the lesser villains showcased. Most of them don't have the depth to carry a movie, but if they're used as henchmen to a larger villain that could work. Plus they could do more in the way of the Sinister Six, The Goblins, Smythe, and eventually the symbiotes.
Planning is good.
As a reboot though, it's way too soon. A Spiderman reboot is fine in concept, and was inevitable. It could do just as well as Batman did, but within 5 years of the previous franchise is ridiculous.
Maybe it will take a long time to get off the ground and the public will grow and appetite/be more open to a new take.
Jeritron
01-13-2010, 10:46 PM
Also, replacing J Jonah Jameson is going to be the biggest crying shame. There is no way they're going to be able to do it as well as they did with JK Simmons.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Their best bet is to stray from Raimi's JJ as far as possible. Any sort of imitation will be met with war.
Jeritron
01-13-2010, 11:14 PM
That's also probably their worst bet. What I'm saying is they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. JJ in those movies is just too good.
Making him too much of a hardass will be boring.
Kalyx triaD
01-13-2010, 11:38 PM
Well we can't have him be a nice guy, he's historically a dick. So from here he's either a funny 'break time' character who hates Spidey or a serious hardass editor who hates Spidey. There's certainly degrees but who are we kidding. His Ultimate incarnation is a nice blend, though.
Jon Kano
01-14-2010, 12:13 PM
This gets worse and worse...
Is Robert Pattinson the New 'Spider-Man'?
<small>33 minutes ago | TheInsider.com (http://www.theinsider.com/news/) | See recent The Insider news (http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000041/) » </small>
"The Insider" has the latest... There are reports that 'Twilight' hunk Robert Pattinson is leaving his fangs behind for another blockbuster franchise -- to take over the role of 'Spider-Man' now that original webslinger Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) has announced he won't be doing the next installment. "The Insider" has the truth behind the rumors. Sony/Columbia has denied the rumor telling Et, "Our first step is to find a director." Earlier this week both star Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) and director Sam Raimi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/) both announced they would not be back for the next movie. The next 'Spider-Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/)' movie is scheduled to hit theaters summer of 2012.
BigDaddyCool
01-14-2010, 12:20 PM
I don't want a sparkly spiderman.
Jeritron
01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
So Raimi's Spidermans are the Burton films, these will be the Schumachers, and in 10-15 years, once the character recovers from the damage, they'll have their Nolans
To be fair isn't there a pretty low limit to the grit and/or realism that can be portrayed on something like Fox anyway?
XCaliber
01-14-2010, 04:57 PM
This gets worse and worse...
Is Robert Pattinson the New 'Spider-Man'?
<small>33 minutes ago | TheInsider.com (http://www.theinsider.com/news/) | See recent The Insider news (http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000041/) » </small>
"The Insider" has the latest... There are reports that 'Twilight' hunk Robert Pattinson is leaving his fangs behind for another blockbuster franchise -- to take over the role of 'Spider-Man' now that original webslinger Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) has announced he won't be doing the next installment. "The Insider" has the truth behind the rumors. Sony/Columbia has denied the rumor telling Et, "Our first step is to find a director." Earlier this week both star Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) and director Sam Raimi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/) both announced they would not be back for the next movie. The next 'Spider-Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/)' movie is scheduled to hit theaters summer of 2012.
Better not be true or I won't even bother going to see it if that were the case.
Jon Kano
01-14-2010, 05:13 PM
I wouldn't be surprised.
Think they are thinking right now..'fuck the comic fans, fuck the decent action/comic film fans, let's cash in on the whole emo, tweenage/teenage target audiences by using a star of said audiences by mixing him into a story with a character we can adapt and modify for all the wrong reasons to the right people'.
BigDaddyCool
01-14-2010, 05:16 PM
Ugh...I hate when I agree with Kano
Jon Kano
01-14-2010, 05:24 PM
Is it like reverse chill up the back or more of a loathing feeling of dread from inside that slowly comes out?
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 05:27 PM
You guys seriously avoiding the part where Sony denies the rumor?
Jon Kano
01-14-2010, 05:39 PM
Until anything is definite, I will express my feelings and theories towards any news or rumors.
BigDaddyCool
01-14-2010, 05:48 PM
Why are you defending this, Kalyx?
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 05:54 PM
Defending what? Rumor denial?
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 05:54 PM
It's in the fucking quote, ffs.
BigDaddyCool
01-14-2010, 05:57 PM
No it isn't.
Inadequacy
01-14-2010, 06:23 PM
This gets worse and worse...
Is Robert Pattinson the New 'Spider-Man'?
<small>33 minutes ago | TheInsider.com (http://www.theinsider.com/news/) | See recent The Insider news (http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000041/) » </small>
"The Insider" has the latest... There are reports that 'Twilight' hunk Robert Pattinson is leaving his fangs behind for another blockbuster franchise -- to take over the role of 'Spider-Man' now that original webslinger Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) has announced he won't be doing the next installment. "The Insider" has the truth behind the rumors. Sony/Columbia has denied the rumor telling Et, "Our first step is to find a director." Earlier this week both star Tobey Maguire (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001497/) and director Sam Raimi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000600/) both announced they would not be back for the next movie. The next 'Spider-Man (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145487/)' movie is scheduled to hit theaters summer of 2012.
BigDaddyCool
01-14-2010, 06:25 PM
never happened.
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 06:27 PM
...Yeah.
Jeritron
01-14-2010, 11:15 PM
Kalyx, admit that although rumors can be false, they can also be true. Sometimes common sense dictates when to take stock in rumors. Even if Robert Pattinson is just an internet rumor, it wouldn't suprise me for a second if it came true.
I remember the Vulture "rumor" and the whole reboot "rumor" that you ripped me for perpetuating. Both came true, and that's just pertaining to this particular movie.
Jeritron
01-14-2010, 11:17 PM
When the studio denies a rumor like that it doesn't mean it's not true. It means they want to find and announce their director first, or they want to make the announcement on their own terms.
Seriously, that's how this shit works. I think we all should understand how the industry works by now, especially those of us who follows movie development news to this extent.
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 11:20 PM
The studio didn't deny the Vulture thing, though, or the reboot. History taught me that 'denying to comment' gave credit to rumors, but out right denial is usually final.
I'm not saying he won't be Spidey or not, I'm just reading the damn response.
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 11:21 PM
Also note that I was reacting to those who seemed to have avoided that portion of the official response, as if his casting was final. Seemed like reaching to me.
Indifferent Clox
01-14-2010, 11:38 PM
buzzkill has angered me in this thread
Jon Kano
01-14-2010, 11:39 PM
Guys, are we getting into an argument about whether people are right or wrong to give their opinions on rumours? - come on, like does it matter?
Kalyx triaD
01-14-2010, 11:46 PM
It's hip to argue with me.
Jeritron
01-14-2010, 11:50 PM
It's hip to be square
mitchables
01-14-2010, 11:51 PM
i quite enjoy ultimate spiderman and i never really loved tobey in the role so i don't really mind if they go this road, as long as they handle it well. it could actually be really smart.
Jeritron
01-14-2010, 11:54 PM
http://www.comicboards.com/app/image.php?msg=smb-2009060503320904&att=peter_parker.jpg&fullsize=yes
parkmania
01-15-2010, 12:05 AM
Emo-man, Emo-man,
Does whatever an emo can...
YOUR Hero
01-15-2010, 10:15 AM
he was always an emo loner anyways
Reavant
01-15-2010, 11:10 AM
yea but he wasnt a cutter
Nowhere Man
01-15-2010, 05:08 PM
I think I'll just stick with the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon for now, thank you very much.
Inadequacy
01-15-2010, 05:22 PM
Any word on a third season yet?
Kalyx triaD
01-15-2010, 05:44 PM
It's happening, but it may be the last (such is the trend of all cool cartoons of late, make just enough eps. for syndication and call it a day).
Inadequacy
01-15-2010, 05:45 PM
That would suck
Buzzkill
01-15-2010, 05:53 PM
The studio didn't deny the Vulture thing, though, or the reboot. History taught me that 'denying to comment' gave credit to rumors, but out right denial is usually final.
I'm not saying he won't be Spidey or not, I'm just reading the damn response.
NBC outright denied that Leno was moving time slots like 13 hours before they announced he was moving time slots
Kalyx triaD
01-15-2010, 06:00 PM
Everything changes with Leno involved.
parkmania
01-15-2010, 06:03 PM
Just so long as Leno doesn't decide HE wants to star in this movie, we'll all be better off than we COULD have been...
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