Impact Spoilers for Thursday. lol what a fucking mess.

[Gertner]

* Before the tapings started, the Impact Zone crowd was addressed by members of the TNA staff. They talked to the crowd about not cursing, making obscene gestures, or gang signs. They called the crowd 'cast members' and basically told the crowd that they needed to be quiet.

* Hernandez and Matt Morgan defeated The British Invasion to retain the TNA Tag Titles. During the match, Rob Terry came out and had his X Division Title shot briefcase. Brutus tried to use the briefcase on Hernandez during the match, but he missed and hit Doug Williams instead. Hernandez pinned Williams.

* After the match, Mick Foley came out and he hit Rob Terry with a chair. After Hernandez and Morgan left the ring, Foley said something to the camera that could not be heard by the crowd.

* After pyro goes off, Ric Flair comes to the ring with two women. Flair says that he hates Hulk Hogan, but he loves TNA. Flair says that he is here to find the next 'Nature Boy'. Flair then brings out the 'next heavyweight champion' A.J. Styles. Styles comes to the ring in a suit and he is accompanied by a woman. Styles puts over the beautiful women in the ring and then the crowd chants 'You are married'. This causes Styles to laugh and there was an awkward pause. A.J. cuts a promo that utilized a style similar to his new mentor.

* Kurt Angle comes to the ring with Hulk Hogan. Hogan says that he has changed his mind about Genesis being Angle's last title shot because he runs the show. Hogan announces that Kurt Angle versus A.J. Styles will happen tonight. Hogan says that it is 'damn real'.

* Orlando Jordan defeats D'Angelo Dinero with a Flatliner.

* It was announced that Ken Anderson will face Jeff Jarrett tonight.

* Angelina Love defeated Madison Rayne after a bicycle kick. After the match, Love ripped Madison's shirt off and choked her with it. Velvet and Lacey come to the ring and they attack Love with the 'ugly stick'.

* Hogan and Bischoff come out. They are tired of The Band running around and they want to see them wrestle. The Band come out and Waltman is smoking. Hogan says that since they don't have contracts, they don't have contracts, they don't work for TNA. Hogan has security escort them out of the building.

* Nasty Boys defeated Kevin Nash and Eric Young when Saggs pinned Young after a pumphandle drop.

* Mr. Anderson comes to the ring to cut a promo. He talks about his victory over Abyss at Genesis. Abyss is standing behind him and he attacks Anderson until Anderson is able to get out of the ring.

* A.J. Styles defeated Kurt Angle with an ankle lock. This match was described as an 'Orlando Screw Job'. Earl Hebner was the referee for this match and he had them ring the bell. Styles, Flair, and Hebner left the ringside area. After the match, Hulk Hogan came out and Angle spat in his face. Angle went to the announce table and took Mike Tenay's chair and throw it into the stage.

* Eric Bischoff comes out with blood on his forehead and states that Mick Foley is fired and then he leaves.

* In an Xplosion Match: Dr. Stevie defeated Homicide with a Stevie-T.

* Desmond Wolfe defeated Sean Morley with the Tower of London. This was a qualifying match for a tournament at Against All Odds to determine the number one contender for the TNA World Heavyweight Title at Lockdown.

* Hernandez defeated Daniels in another qualifying match for the tournament at Against All Odds.

* Ken Anderson defeats Jeff Jarrett after a low blow. Jarrett tried for the Stroke during the match but Anderson used the low blow. After the match, Anderson hit the Mic Check and then did his usual mic work.

[Xero]

Remember the good old days, when Russo was writing?

[Theo Dious]

I do like seeing Kennedy beating Jarrett, but the rest of the show looks worse than something WCW shat out in late 2000.

[Ermaximus]

How much Hogan and Bischoff do you need on TNA to make it watchable? Apparently it isn't working.

[Xero]

How much Hogan and Bischoff do you need on TNA to make it watchable? Apparently it isn't working.

0

[Ermaximus]

0

Is that supposed to be the number of fans TNA has or their cable rating for Impact Xero?

[Xero]

They have four fans.

It's the latter.

[Nicky Fives]

Telling the fans to shut up is the first straw in the eventual death of TNA..... At least this time Russo won't be the one to take most of the blame

[Ermaximus]

If it was a live show I could understand them wanting the crowd to not start loud, obscene chants, but since it's taped and airs later, what's the feeking point?

[Haze]

Impact Zone = Wrestlings Twilight Zone

[Haze]

If it was a live show I could understand them wanting the crowd to not start loud, obscene chants, but since it's taped and airs later, what's the feeking point?
It hurts Hogan's feelings.

[screech]

If it was a live show I could understand them wanting the crowd to not start loud, obscene chants, but since it's taped and airs later, what's the feeking point?

I get the feeling that TNA doesn't do much editing in terms of crowd chants, despite having at least three days from the first taping of the week.

If they did, the face/heel dynamic would come off a lot clearer on television methinks.

[Haze]

Also just read on the front page that Awesome Kong took a swing at Bubba the Love Sponge...Now that I wished we could see!

[Ermaximus]

Also just read on the front page that Awesome Kong took a swing at Bubba the Love Sponge...Now that I wished we could see!
That's a TNA match I'd love to see and tbh, do you blame her for swinging on him? He's trash.

I get the feeling that TNA doesn't do much editing in terms of crowd chants, despite having at least three days from the first taping of the week.

If they did, the face/heel dynamic would come off a lot clearer on television methinks.
Well, this IS TNA we are talking about here remember? I give them 15 months before they tank.

It hurts Hogan's feelings.
:roll:

[Steveviscious89]

Well....after reading all the BS about the fans being told what to do and the Kong/Bubba drama, I wonder if TNA has bitten off a little bit more than they can chew. It is true that Bischoff believes that controversey creates cash. Just in a few weeks they have managed to create more controversey than they've ever had in the company. Now with that said, either they have gone too far with it in a short amount of time...or Bischoff has planned and counted on all of this and it's just crazy enough to work. Either way...it's crazy.

[The Franchise]

Fuck I just cant get into TNA. I've tried so many times for so many years. :/

[The Jayman]

i had high hopes for TNA but this is just awful

[RGWhat316]

TNA seemed to have potential within the last couple months, but as predicted, Hogan and Bischoff are just running it into the ground. And all of the main TNA guys seems to be nowhere to be found, or just being jobbed out. Im no real fan of Eric Young, but as the youngest guy in that match, no way should he have been pinned.

[Mr. Nerfect]

* Hernandez and Matt Morgan defeated The British Invasion to retain the TNA Tag Titles. During the match, Rob Terry came out and had his X Division Title shot briefcase. Brutus tried to use the briefcase on Hernandez during the match, but he missed and hit Doug Williams instead. Hernandez pinned Williams. Trouble has been brewing between the members of The British Invasion for some time. I do not want to see Rob Terry cash in the briefcase and win the X-Division Title, so I hope Doug Williams gets it from him, and gets a nice singles reign. The guy deserves it.

* Mick Foley is a good promo, so it'll be interesting to see what he has to say.

* AJ Styles' new persona could be either hit or miss. I wonder if Styles will start calling himself "The Nature Boy." It could be a pretty good way to get him some heat. I get what they are trying to do by having Hulk Hogan take Angle's side. People thought that Angle would not be getting another title shot, but Hogan has come through. They just have to be careful that they don't devalue stipulations like that too much -- even if they benefit the face.

* There is no way Orlando Jordan should be defeating D'Angelo Dinero clean. I get they want to make OJ look strong, credible or whatever, but Dinero is where they should be investing. Jordan getting a tainted win with help from Desmond Wolfe (because it sounds like he might only be on the second week of iMPACT!) could have been a better way to go about things.

* The Angelina Love vs. Beautiful People seems to be off to a completely acceptable start. Love gets a solid win, Rayne loses her top; the heels get the numbers advantage, which will hopefully lead to Love getting a partner to face Sky & Rayne. I don't see anything wrong with this so far.

* I get what TNA are trying to do with "The Band," I do, but so far they have been nothing but a mess. I hope this is the end of them.

* There is no way The Nasty Boys should be defeating Kevin Nash & Eric Young. Not only are Nash & Young the leaders of a top heel faction in TNA, but Young is a singles champion, and until recently was a really hot character in TNA. I guess The Nasty Boys need to look strong, but they got their beat-down on Team 3D. They shouldn't even be appearing for TNA. If Hogan wanted to give his boys a win, Team 3D could have attacked and given them a disqualification win.

* Everything I heard about the Ken Anderson vs. Abyss match at Genesis suggested they didn't really click. So TNA's strategy is to pair them together in a feud? Why? I know they feel the need to include something for everybody, but right now it might be best to leave the directionless Abyss off television while they establish new characters.

* TNA doing the "screwjob" is pathetic. Styles could have retained the title in a more constructive manner. Perhaps they could have had someone help out Styles, and give Flair someone else to manage? This just doesn't sound interesting, and sounds like it will repel more viewers than attract.

* Eric Bischoff firing Mick Foley could be interesting. I guess they are doing some sort of "anti-authority" role for Foley. I do think they need to get some characters off TV for a bit, and Mick Foley is one of those guys who just demands too much air-time (by nature of character, and not backstage attitude or anything). Foley being "fired" is better than Lashley wanting to "leave." That just makes TNA look crappy.

* Homicide should have beat Dr. Stevie in their Xplosion match. I do like me some Stevie, and I am glad he has gotten a chance to work with some former World Champions in TNA; but after getting squashed by Matt Morgan & Hernandez, I don't think he really needs to be going over guys who should be used to rebuild the X-Division. In fact, Dr. Stevie is another one of those guys who could be left off TV for a while, and take a more backstage role while new characters are finding themselves.

* I am really looking forward to the Desmond Wolfe vs. Sean Morley match. I'm sure they will work well together, and Wolfe going over is the right call. The Morley mark in me would have liked to have seen D'Angelo Dinero cost Wolfe the match, as payback for my suggested scenario where Wolfe cost Dinero a match against Orlando Jordan. Then you could have run Dinero & Morley vs. Wolfe & Jordan, or something like that.

* Hernandez has got a marketable appeal -- I understand that. I do wish Daniels was used a bit better, though. He should really be looking for retribution against Sean Morley for his loss at Genesis, or something, claiming he was careless to lose to a joke like Morley. But I guess Daniels is just taking some time away from the title for a little while.

* Ken Anderson going over Jeff Jarrett is the right call, in my opinion. They need to make Anderson look like he belongs in TNA. Going over the founder is a great way to do it. I'm interested to see where they go with Anderson in TNA; although I just wish they'd drop the Abyss thing.

[RGWhat316]

* The Angelina Love vs. Beautiful People seems to be off to a completely acceptable start. Love gets a solid win, Rayne loses her top; the heels get the numbers advantage, which will hopefully lead to Love getting a partner to face Sky & Rayne. I don't see anything wrong with this so far.

I disagree slightly, cus I dont see it mentioned that Angelina has any promo time. I get what is going on, but just because she attacked her friends, doesnt mean shes accepted as a face. But if she explains herself then I will accept it more. But then again, they really never explained her disappearance from tv in the first place.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

So much for hogan letting the talent step up for themselves. Saddling AJ with a gimmick that used to be on a fucking referee. "little naitch"

and using the fucking screwjob? Christ almighty.

and the nasty boys? Fucking TNA squandering that great roster.

[taker707]

Im not trying to really defend TNA but you guys do relize TNA will be tapiong 4 weeks of shows in 3 days since they are going on thier european tour . so it may look like a cluster uck and most likely will end up one on the final product . But who knows they can suprise us and make it all work

[St. Jimmy]

Pre or Post Hogan? Looks like the same shit from last year to me.

[VSG]

* Before the tapings started, the Impact Zone crowd was addressed by members of the TNA staff. They talked to the crowd about not cursing, making obscene gestures, or gang signs. They called the crowd 'cast members' and basically told the crowd that they needed to be quiet.

Styles comes to the ring in a suit and he is accompanied by a woman. Styles puts over the beautiful women in the ring and then the crowd chants 'You are married'. This causes Styles to laugh and there was an awkward pause. A.J. cuts a promo that utilized a style similar to his new mentor.

Enough to convince me the fans are going to revolt ECW style!

[Skippord]

Spoilers for next week are ridiculous too

[Triple Naitch]

Fuck I just cant get into TNA. I've tried so many times for so many years. :/

[Theo Dious]

Well....after reading all the BS about the fans being told what to do and the Kong/Bubba drama, I wonder if TNA has bitten off a little bit more than they can chew. It is true that Bischoff believes that controversey creates cash. Just in a few weeks they have managed to create more controversey than they've ever had in the company.

This isn't controversy. This is travesty.

[Shadow]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.

That kinda....sucks.

[FourFifty]

Yellow shirt fan is not impressed with TNA's faggotry.

[Sixx]

Hulk Hogan can't make up his mind if he's a face or a heel.

[Fox]

Some thoughts:

Telling the fans what to do and what to think is a bad move, as already noted. Fucking ridiculous, and an obvious sign of a creative team that can't GIVE people what they want.

Way to make your PPV stipulations seem utterly pointless by giving Kurt Angle another title shot against AJ Styles. And a screw job angle? Come the fuck on. That's played out even in the WWE, where it actually fucking happened! Ric Flair teaming with Styles could be a good thing, as the guy really doesn't have much in the way of charisma. But only if they make him a centerpiece of the show.

Christopher Daniels losing is always a kick in the nuts. Especially when Orlando Jordan is getting a push on the same card.

Mr. Anderson is a breath of fresh air for TNA. Desmond Wolfe is a good talent (with a shitty name) and Sean Morley in TNA is a nice touch as well.

What the fuck? The Nasty Boys winning a match? I don't care if it's agains the equally over the hill Kevin Nash and Eric Young, who I don't give a rats ass about; it's the Nasty Boys. What a fucking joke. Way to kill all of your credibility, TNA. This isn't 1995 god damnit.

[Sixx]

What credibility?

[Theo Dious]

Hulk Hogan can't make up his mind if he's a face or a heel.

Clearly he's in the right place then.

[Splaya]

LOL, a crazy thought just crossed my head.

What if Vince got Hogan and Bisch to go into TNA and run it into the ground? That would be the sickest thing ever

[Xero]

LOL, a crazy thought just crossed my head.

What if Vince got Hogan and Bisch to go into TNA and run it into the ground? That would be the sickest thing ever

Well, he sent Hogan, Hall and Nash to WCW to kill it.

Honestly though, I'd buy Angle more than Hogan. Angle's just gone insane with some of the demands.

And, you know, literally.

[redoneja]

What a terrible show. For all the momentum TNA has at the moment, it isn't going to last with many more shows like this.

[The Franchise]

the show was worse than the spoilers made it seem

tna is terrible everytime i watch it. i think i'm just going to stop "hoping its good" because it was shitty when Christian joined, Sting joined, Angle joined etc.... there is the odd good storyline or match but it just lacks that x-factor that keeps viewers tuned in IMO. it's sad though because TNA has unreal potential

[Skippord]

so seriously someone explain why Orlando Jordan beat Pope

[Mr. Nerfect]

so seriously someone explain why Orlando Jordan beat Pope

To be fair, I think they just want to make people care about Orlando Jordan. I mean, all joking aside, Jordan is a pretty decent talent. I'm not sure if there's anything outstanding enough about him to warrant him being in TNA, or getting a massive push, but if TNA are going to hire him, they might as well try and make him look good.

They could also be testing out Pope's heat. If he can come out after losing to OJ cleanly, and get a nice pop, they can pretty much relentlessly depend on him.

[Skippord]

fair enough

still pretty sure Orlando Jordan had the gayest robe I've ever seen ever

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm yet to see Jordan wrestle. And I'm not saying that I would be doing what TNA is doing with OJ. I'd have put The Pope over in a second. Or at least have Jordan win with help from Desmond Wolfe, to continue that feud, and so Pope has excuses. Not that Pope makes excuses.

[Skippord]

Pope has another confusing match next week that I want to discuss with someone

[Mr. Nerfect]

Is this the one where he went over AJ Styles in the non-title match? It makes little sense, but it's a good thing for Pope.

[Skippord]

I believe so

but if you think about it now Orlando Jordan beat someone who beat the TNA World Champion

[The Mackem]

non-sensical, short term booking...they used to do the same in WCW.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They should have put Pope over Orlando Jordan cleanly, or have had Desmond Wolfe cost Dinero the match. That way OJ benefits, so let's say they do that. Dinero and Wolfe can meet up in the Against All Odds Tournament, and Dinero can get some revenge there. That way, he could have defeated AJ Styles in a "preview match" of what the tournament could offer. Jordan could then gloat about how he beat Dinero, and D'Angelo can knock him on his ass in a rematch.

Pope is amazing, and this would have been a tremendous way to use him. But oh well.

[Indifferent Clox]

How do you know it's nonsensical nd short term? mybe they just want to show that anyone can at anytime beat anyone else so it's more surprising. I mean it's not like they've given anybody a meningless 'streak' gimmick only for the to lose 2 weeks later.

[The Mackem]

I'd be more upbeat about it if TNA did not feel like WCW all over again from the same old people seemingly do the same old things.

* Before the tapings started, the Impact Zone crowd was addressed by members of the TNA staff. They talked to the crowd about not cursing, making obscene gestures, or gang signs. They called the crowd 'cast members' and basically told the crowd that they needed to be quiet.

And people mock the WWE for taking fan signs etc

* Hernandez and Matt Morgan defeated The British Invasion to retain the TNA Tag Titles. During the match, Rob Terry came out and had his X Division Title shot briefcase. Brutus tried to use the briefcase on Hernandez during the match, but he missed and hit Doug Williams instead. Hernandez pinned Williams.

If used to build tension in the team good, otherwise just an unclean finish

* After the match, Mick Foley came out and he hit Rob Terry with a chair. After Hernandez and Morgan left the ring, Foley said something to the camera that could not be heard by the crowd.

Established name levelling an up and comer...don't see what that achieves.

* After pyro goes off, Ric Flair comes to the ring with two women. Flair says that he hates Hulk Hogan, but he loves TNA. Flair says that he is here to find the next 'Nature Boy'. Flair then brings out the 'next heavyweight champion' A.J. Styles. Styles comes to the ring in a suit and he is accompanied by a woman. Styles puts over the beautiful women in the ring and then the crowd chants 'You are married'. This causes Styles to laugh and there was an awkward pause. A.J. cuts a promo that utilized a style similar to his new mentor.

Styles needs a gimmick...apparently...let's give him the Nature Boy's one...not much to live up to there

* Kurt Angle comes to the ring with Hulk Hogan. Hogan says that he has changed his mind about Genesis being Angle's last title shot because he runs the show. Hogan announces that Kurt Angle versus A.J. Styles will happen tonight. Hogan says that it is 'damn real'.

Genesis stipulation was pointless, let's forget about it and move on.

* Orlando Jordan defeats D'Angelo Dinero with a Flatliner.

Wow

* It was announced that Ken Anderson will face Jeff Jarrett tonight.

Because we can't build our own stars, we have to continuously bring in WWE rejects

* Angelina Love defeated Madison Rayne after a bicycle kick. After the match, Love ripped Madison's shirt off and choked her with it. Velvet and Lacey come to the ring and they attack Love with the 'ugly stick'.

At least they try with the division

* Hogan and Bischoff come out. They are tired of The Band running around and they want to see them wrestle. The Band come out and Waltman is smoking. Hogan says that since they don't have contracts, they don't have contracts, they don't work for TNA. Hogan has security escort them out of the building.

What year is it?

* Nasty Boys defeated Kevin Nash and Eric Young when Saggs pinned Young after a pumphandle drop.

What year is it?

* Mr. Anderson comes to the ring to cut a promo. He talks about his victory over Abyss at Genesis. Abyss is standing behind him and he attacks Anderson until Anderson is able to get out of the ring.

At least Abyss gets some of his heat back

* A.J. Styles defeated Kurt Angle with an ankle lock. This match was described as an 'Orlando Screw Job'. Earl Hebner was the referee for this match and he had them ring the bell. Styles, Flair, and Hebner left the ringside area. After the match, Hulk Hogan came out and Angle spat in his face. Angle went to the announce table and took Mike Tenay's chair and throw it into the stage.

Wow...just wow

* Eric Bischoff comes out with blood on his forehead and states that Mick Foley is fired and then he leaves.

WCW weekly firing esque

* In an Xplosion Match: Dr. Stevie defeated Homicide with a Stevie-T.

WWE reject over

* Desmond Wolfe defeated Sean Morley with the Tower of London. This was a qualifying match for a tournament at Against All Odds to determine the number one contender for the TNA World Heavyweight Title at Lockdown.

Good

* Hernandez defeated Daniels in another qualifying match for the tournament at Against All Odds.

Poor Daniels

* Ken Anderson defeats Jeff Jarrett after a low blow. Jarrett tried for the Stroke during the match but Anderson used the low blow. After the match, Anderson hit the Mic Check and then did his usual mic work

Another WWE reject over a TNA mainstay

There is basically nothing in that which makes me want to watch besides having a slight interest in the tournament for the number one contender. I don't know maybe it comes over better on television but I don't think this direction is going to be so great for TNA.

[Skippord]

lol at the Pumphandle Slam that Sags hit on Eric Young

looked pretty fucked up

[Loose Cannon]

I read these spoilers this week and was thinking these was horrible.

But I actually enjoyed the show last night. I thought it came off good on TV. Lots of things to keep me watching next week. I was really against that screwjob on Kurt, but fuck, Kurt and Hogan played it off pretty good and I am anxious to see where it goes.

I love AJ and Flair together. I have always been a mark for heel AJ Styles and he is finally getting the top heel spot he has always deserved. I think Angle is always better as a babyface as the fans love getting behind him. Putting Flair with AJ was pretty dam genius if you as me.

I am curious to see where the Nash/Hall/X-pac story goes. I like Nash and Young as a team. I think they work very well together. Eric Young is an amazing talent.

I could do without the Nasty Boys and Dudley Boys. They both suck.

And then you have guys like Beer Money, Morgan, Homicide and all the X Division guys that have always carried the workrate in TNA.

So far so good to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TNA airs tomorrow over here. I am interested to see it. You have good taste, LC, so I'm hoping for something decent. TNA's results can often sound like a mess, but things turn out pretty captivating most times. That's not to say there aren't flaws.

[screech]

I think the show comes off better on TV than in reading the spoilers. I have yet to watch this week's episode, but I am expecting better than what I read.

[mike adamle]

I watched it last night, wasn't as good as the last few weeks, but a lot better than the spoilers would lead you to think.

[kareru]

yeah, the spoilers make it sound shit, but it was a good show, lots of interesting stories going on, solid main event (exept for the screwjob) but i did laugh when kurt angle spit in hogans eye, he's not as accurate a lugi hocker as bret but he did the job well.

and as for people asking why oj went over he pope

its his debut, its almost a given that any wrestler making his/her debut gets the win, its tradition

[mike adamle]

yeah, the spoilers make it sound shit, but it was a good show, lots of interesting stories going on, solid main event (exept for the screwjob) but i did laugh when kurt angle spit in hogans eye, he's not as accurate a lugi hocker as bret but he did the job well.

and as for people asking why oj went over he pope

its his debut, its almost a given that any wrestler making his/her debut gets the win, its tradition

Plus they sold how well Desmond Wolfe worked over the knee at the PPV and that was part of the reason D'Angelo lost this match. I'm fine with it anyways, but I'm pretty easy to please I guess.

[Mr. Nerfect]

See, all is not evil in the world.