View Full Version : If someone thinks Sheamus is being booked well as a champion...
Please explain to me how? He's won exactly two matches (a fluke and a dq) against main eventers. Every win he's had is against jobbers or midcarders. I do not see him as a threat to anyone above the midcard, yet he's holding the fucking title.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:03 PM
I can't take him seirously either.
Gertner
02-03-2010, 06:04 PM
He's doing better than I expected him to, I'll give him that.
He's doing better than I expected him to, I'll give him that.
I don't hold this against Sheamus himself. I think he's a great talent and could be main event material if he was built up well. But what he has going right now is just pathetic.
I don't mind him at all tbh. After 2 years of Cena as champion, another year of Cena, Orton and HHH trading the belt, this is a breathe of fresh air.
As we saw with Randy Orton, heels just aren't booked as dominant anymore. Which is a shame, but that's just the way it is now.
Savio
02-03-2010, 06:11 PM
I never even see sheamus on raw really
Reminds me of Rey Mysterio's World title reign.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:12 PM
Reminds me of Rey Mysterio's World title reign.
?
Reminds me of Rey Mysterio's World title reign.
Rey Mysterio jobbed numerous times as champion. Sheamus hasn't, he just hasn't been booked to win any clean matches. Very different.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:13 PM
And Rey was on the show alot more than Sheamus has been.
Rey Mysterio jobbed numerous times as champion. Sheamus hasn't, he just hasn't been booked to win any clean matches. Very different.
Good point there Senior Juan :kiss:
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:17 PM
He hasn't had the best booking but it's probably not priority #1 right now with the Bret/Vince, Cena/Batista and Taker/HBK/HHH storylines. WWE seems to focus on the really important stuff and doesn't care too much about the rest of the show (which IMO is a major reason for the decline is quality their product has seen in the last few years).
I'd rather see Sheamus as champ if only for the fact he isn't named Randy, John or Hunter.
ron the dial
02-03-2010, 06:17 PM
it's good to see them not considering their main title as "really important stuff"
He hasn't had the best booking but it's probably not priority #1 right now...
He has the title. He's the #1 priority.
The Pope
02-03-2010, 06:18 PM
Give the Fucking title to Orton!
He has the title. He's the #1 priority.
Clearly not, but I think that will change once the Sheamus/HHH program for Mania starts
Kayfabe-wise, he's #1 priority. There's no way around that, no matter how badly the title has been booked.
ron the dial
02-03-2010, 06:20 PM
if the guy with the title isn't the #1 priority, then what does the title "really" mean?
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:20 PM
Yup, it's bad but it wouldnt be the first time they have done this (Battle of the Billionaires hurt the Cena/HBK feud IMO and Vince/HBK hurt Cena/HHH the year before... although that feud wasn't really even a feud. It was just a name calling)
In my personal opinion, a 2 year long John Cena title reign is about as bad as it gets.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:20 PM
He has the title. He's the #1 priority.
He should be I'm just saying that to the WWE Bret/Vince is the #1 priority
if the guy with the title isn't the #1 priority, then what does the title "really" mean?
The title has changed hands about 20 times over the past 3 years, so not much unfortunately.
Clearly not, but I think that will change once the Sheamus/HHH program for Mania starts
There is no fucking way I want to see Triple-H main event and by main event I mean to be last on the card at Wrestlemania.
There is no fucking way I want to see Triple-H main event and by main event I mean be last on the card at Wrestlemania.
Then don't watch WrestleMania 26
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:23 PM
The title has changed hands about 20 times over the past 3 years, so not much unfortunately.
Yeah isnt that nuts. Especially since in 2003-2007 we had lots of 6 month+ reigns.
WWE needs to learn balance
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:24 PM
There is no fucking way I want to see Triple-H main event and by main event I mean be last on the card at Wrestlemania.
I don't think he will be??? Edge should be the last match since he won the Rumble. Now this doesn't guarantee the last spot on the card since 2006 (the 06, 07 and 08 Rumble winners did not main event) but I'm pretty sure Edge/Jericho or whatever they've got planned for him will main event over Sheamus/HHH.
Then don't watch WrestleMania 26
Thou art not so kind Senior :'(
Thou art not so kind Senior :'(
I'm just saying, there's a good chance HHH and Sheamus will main event at Mania, so if you don't want to see Hunter in the main event, then don't watch it.
Also, I think the word you're looking for is Seņor. Senior means old
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:29 PM
I'm just saying, there's a good chance HHH and Sheamus will main event at Mania, so if you don't want to see Hunter in the main event, then don't watch it.
Not gonna happen.
I bet you 20,000 tipsters points it wont.
(not really)
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 06:29 PM
lol
Not gonna happen.
I bet you 20,000 tipsters points it wont.
(not really)
Well, I did say there's a CHANCE. Didn't say it WILL happen. It's been rumored, so there at least a possibility. Plus, Sheamus is advertised as Champion at post-Elimination Chamber house shows, so that's a clue that he wont be losing the title at EC.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:32 PM
Well, I did say there's a CHANCE. Didn't say it WILL happen. It's been rumored, so there at least a possibility. Plus, Sheamus is advertised as Champion at post-Elimination Chamber house shows, so that's a clue that he wont be losing the title at EC.
Can't see him winning the chamber though, that just wouldn't feel right.
I'm just saying, there's a good chance HHH and Sheamus will main event at Mania, so if you don't want to see Hunter in the main event, then don't watch it.
I have a gut feeling that Edge will main event the show and HHH will be somewhere in the mid card or be a part of one of the 3 main events.
Can't see him winning the chamber though, that just wouldn't feel right.
I hope he does. Wouldn't make much sense to give him dusty wins at two PPV's only to lose the belt 2 months later.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:37 PM
I hope he does. Wouldn't make much sense to give him dusty wins at two PPV's only to lose the belt 2 months later.
Would make even less sense having him face HHH at WM only to be buried. I say have him lose the title in EC as it would be understandeble, then have him be in MITB....
Cena will most likely be wrestling Batista at WM, so he's not winning. Ted DiBiase is not winning it. Orton is most likely going to wrestle DiBiase at WM, so I don't see him winning it. Highly doubtful that Kofi will win. Which leaves only HHH and Sheamus
I hope he does. Wouldn't make much sense to give him dusty wins at two PPV's only to lose the belt 2 months later.
Does anything about his run make much sense?
Would make even less sense having him face HHH at WM only to be buried. I say have him lose the title in EC as it would be understandeble, then have him be in MITB....
Or maybe WWE will actually follow through with Sheamus' push. Just a thought. I'd say that even if Sheamus looses to HHH at Mania, being in a match of that caliber would do him much better than losing the title in a multi-man Elimination Chamber.
It's kinda stupid but I was really happy when Sheamus won the WWE Championship cause he used to be an IT pro like yours truly.
Does anything about his run make much sense?
Well seeing as how everyone was tired of Orton, Cena and HHH trading the belt between each other, I'd say that at least putting the belt on someone other than them makes sense.
Gertner
02-03-2010, 06:43 PM
He's getting more heel heat than I expected.
If you really wanted someone to be "built up" before becoming champion, you'd have to sit through another year of Cena/Orton/HHH main events. No thanks.
If you really wanted someone to be "built up" before becoming champion, you'd have to sit through another year of Cena/Orton/HHH main events. No thanks.
Kofi? DiBiase? Christian? It's not like WWE is devoid of legitimate, fresh possibilities.
That's a whole other discussion.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 06:55 PM
No its not. Stop trying to back out when you're wrong.:D
Exactly. Those I listed at least have build to them, and Christian especially can be seen as a legitimate contender.
But they have more build than Sheamus ever did, and with DiBiase he has wins over DX. Just takes maybe a month or two and he could be a main eventer.
As for Kofi, he had the GOOD main event push with Orton and then they dropped it. He was being made and they fucked him up.
This is relevant because Sheamus was pretty fucking low on the list for legitimate contendership and his build hasn't really helped him much.
Mark Henry is another one who, with a month or two of build, could be a contender.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:01 PM
Its sad when were saying Mark Henry could be a contender.
My point wasn't that Sheamus was the best choice, my point was that since he IS the choice, it's better than the alternative (another year of HHH/Orton/Cena)
I disagree. At least Hunter, Orton or Cena have the title being a large focus of the show.
Well i guess it's a matter of personal taste. I personally don't want to see Orton, HHH or Cena with the title any time soon.
The thing is, Hunter and Cena especially are still the LARGEST part of the show, EVEN WITHOUT THE TITLE. So it makes no difference whether they hold the title or not, they're still shoved down your throat. At least with the title on them it has a real focus.
You kind of twisted what I said too. I never said Sheamus was the BEST choice to be champion. I would take DiBiase, Kofi or Christian over HHH/Orton/Cena too.
The thing is, Hunter and Cena especially are still the LARGEST part of the show, EVEN WITHOUT THE TITLE. So it makes no difference whether they hold the title or not, they're still shoved down your throat. At least with the title on them it has a real focus.
Yeah a real focus on boring matches we've seen a million times already. Again, no thanks.
Did I ever say you thought he was the best choice? The fact that you even CONSIDER him a choice is what baffles me.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:09 PM
Kofi? DiBiase? Christian? It's not like WWE is devoid of legitimate, fresh possibilities.
Yeah but do they work out with THE GAME?
Yeah a real focus on boring matches we've seen a million times already. Again, no thanks.
You're still getting them above Sheamus. What's the difference?
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:10 PM
Yeah but do they work out with THE GAME?
I forgot about this.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:11 PM
It probably was something like this...
HHH: First person to get me a protein shake can have reign as WWE Champion for a couple months
Sheamus: :D
What do you mean "consider him a choice" ? He already is the choice, and I don't mind it one bit. We've seen HHH/Orton/Cena in a million matches with every stipulation under the sun and I was sick of it. I know I'm not the only one who was sick of it, since there were threads almost every week on how boring the Raw main event scene was, and now they throw someone new in the mix (granted, not the best choice, but its something new and fresh) and you're still not happy.
You're still getting them above Sheamus. What's the difference?
As long as they're not wrestling for the title, I could care less what else they do.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:13 PM
Sheamus is the lesser of four evils
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:14 PM
It probably was something like this...
HHH: First person to get me a protein shake can have reign as WWE Champion for a couple months
Sheamus: :D
Sheamus knows how to play the game!
Sheamus is the lesser of four evils
Exactly.
The IWC is notorious for never being satisfied and this is just another case of that.
What do you mean "consider him a choice" ? He already is the choice, and I don't mind it one bit. We've seen HHH/Orton/Cena in a million matches with every stipulation under the sun and I was sick of it. I know I'm not the only one who was sick of it, since there were threads almost every week on how boring the Raw main event scene was, and now they throw someone new in the mix (granted, not the best choice, but its something new and fresh) and you're still not happy.
So you enjoy the champion having MAYBE 15 minutes of air time every week, having no legit wins and being fifth fiddle?
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:16 PM
Exactly.
The IWC is notorious for never being satisfied and this is just another case of that.
The IWC is justified in this case, its a matter of opinion.
And besides, IWC isn't just one person so everyone will have their own opinions. Otherwise they would just be called sheep.
People bitched for months and months about how stale the main event scene was on Raw. So now, just because Sheamus is not the guy you would have picked to be champion (I wouldn't have picked him either), you'd rather it go back to the way it was?
If the championship means something, which it did? Absolutely.
I'll take the championship's prestige over shitty rematches any day.
Again, we're still getting all these guys above Sheamus ANYWAY, so there is NO difference whatsoever, other than the title not being around their waist. And at least then, again, the title had SOME meaning.
So you enjoy the champion having MAYBE 15 minutes of air time every week, having no legit wins and being fifth fiddle?
I wouldn't say I enjoy it, but I certainly don't mind it.
If the championship means something, which it did? Absolutely.
I'll take the championship's prestige over shitty rematches any day.
Again, we're still getting all these guys above Sheamus ANYWAY, so there is NO difference whatsoever, other than the title not being around their waist. And at least then, again, the title had SOME meaning.
But with HHH/Orton/Cena ALL you get is shitty rematches :wtf:
Inadequacy
02-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Remember the big pop Mark Henry got when he turned face against Randy Orton?
Really wish they had done something with that.
But with HHH/Orton/Cena ALL you get is shitty rematches :wtf:
And the title being displayed at the top of the card.
Again, we're still getting all these guys above Sheamus ANYWAY, so there is NO difference whatsoever, other than the title not being around their waist. And at least then, again, the title had SOME meaning.
That's a really cynical way to look at it.
So just because HHH/Orton/Cena are still stars, they should continue to trade the belt between each other and deliver the same exact main events every month?
It's not that they're stars, it's that they're FAR and ABOVE the champion, and are booked as such.
THAT is the problem I have.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:24 PM
That's a really cynical way to look at it.
So just because HHH/Orton/Cena are still stars, they should continue to trade the belt between each other and deliver the same exact main events every month?
No, they could atleast attempt to put the midcarders over (like jericho does)rather than just rotate it between them.
As sheamus has connections with HHH, its not quite the same, and the fact he came from nowhere.
Fignuts
02-03-2010, 07:27 PM
Only time putting the belt on a rookie really works, is when he is a monster like lesnar, which shaemus clearly is not.
Horrible decision to just give him the belt like that.
I'm pretty sure that if they would have given the belt to DiBiase, Kofi, Christian or Mark Henry, they'd be in the exact same position as Sheamus. And i would still rather have either of them as champion over HHH/Orton/Cena
Only time putting the belt on a rookie really works, is when he is a monster like lesnar, which shaemus clearly is not.
Horrible decision to just give him the belt like that.
Yeah, I agree that just throwing the belt on him wasn't the best idea, but it happened and there's nothing I can do but sit back and enjoy.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:30 PM
It's just as much about "who you know" as it is about "how good you are"
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:30 PM
I bet Sheamus is hated by alot of the roster, just comes in being a friend of HHH's and gets the title, while they're still working their asses off/'paying their dues'.:roll:
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:31 PM
It's just as much about "who you know" as it is about "how good you are"
Pretty much.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:31 PM
I hope they have witch hunts in search for WWE Champion Chief Fire crotch
I bet Sheamus is hated by alot of the roster, just comes in being a friend of HHH's and gets the title, while they're still working their asses off/'paying their dues'.:roll:
I doubt it. Like Xero said, he only gets about 15 mins of air time and has yet to main event a PPV.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:35 PM
What bothers me isn't the fact that WWE did something "new" and had a surprise, random champion -- that is actually awesome -- but it's who they chose and more so why they chose him
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:37 PM
What bothers me isn't the fact that WWE did something "new" and had a surprise, random champion -- that is actually awesome -- but it's who they chose and more so why they chose him
Innit, but meh, there's fuck all we can do about it.
(Except annoy Juan)
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:39 PM
we the WWE Universe are helpless
but I'm with Juan in terms of rather having Sheamus than the Huntortena(:shifty:) as champion. I was watching some old title wins like Angle and Eddie and then theres Sheamus lol
NoRoolz
02-03-2010, 07:40 PM
Not to sound like a bitch, but seriously imagine the grief TNA would get for putting the fucking world title on someone nowhere near established enough, and making little effort to make him appear credible.
'lol WWE'
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:41 PM
Not to sound like a bitch, but seriously imagine the grief TNA would get for putting the fucking world title on someone nowhere near established enough, and making little effort to make him appear credible.
'lol WWE'
WWE is in more of a position to do something like this though, tbf.
Jeritron
02-03-2010, 07:45 PM
The thing is, Hunter and Cena especially are still the LARGEST part of the show, EVEN WITHOUT THE TITLE. So it makes no difference whether they hold the title or not, they're still shoved down your throat. At least with the title on them it has a real focus.
They're the large focus of the show, but not against eachother. Triple H is part of DX, Orton has been fueding with Kofi and now is in a legacy storyline, and Cena was chasing Sheamus' title and now is in another angle.
I find it's far more interesting when those 3 are split up to fued with other talent, and do something new that doesn't have to do with the title.
It allows for someone else holding the title, which is fresh. In this case it's Sheamus.
I agree that the way Sheamus is being booked is awful if you look at it from a kayfabe point of view. He hasn't beaten anybody. But I think they're throwing kayfabe to the wind and trying to find a way to have their cake and eat it too (push Sheamus and not have to actually job any of their main eventers)
I guess they figure they can get away with it. Among their major fanbase, I'm sure they're succeeding.
As for me, I can see where you're coming from. I complained when they did the exact same thing with Jericho, but at this stage in the game I just don't care. I'm buying it because I am looking at it for what it is and not kayfabe.
Fignuts
02-03-2010, 07:50 PM
we the WWE Universe
Stop that.
Calling wrestling fans, "the wwe universe" is the stupidest thing that's ever been done in wrestling. I want to kill something every time I hear.
Londoner
02-03-2010, 07:50 PM
Stop that.
Calling wrestling fans, "the wwe universe" is the stupidest thing that's ever been done in wrestling. I want to kill something every time I hear.
You need help then.;)
But yeah i hate the wwe universe thing too.
Jeritron
02-03-2010, 07:51 PM
Last spring/summer, the whole Orton/Batista/HHH thing was so boring that I took a hiatus from wrestling that I'm really just coming back from.
It was honestly some of the most 'no thanks' booking I've seen in all the years I've watched wrestling.
Then in the late summer and fall it was the same shit, only with Cena/Orton and that didn't draw me back in either.
I don't mind any of those guys (except Batista maybe), when they're doing other things that are interesting and semi-fresh. It's just that when you put them together, and have main event programs that involve them and only them, it's a recipe for disaster.
I am pretty confident they have a great push for Sheamus planned at EC with a genuine victory to make him look a fitting champ. The only other option is to have him enter last with only 1-2 tired guys left and he takes care of them in a jiffy, with the WM storyline being he has to defend his title in a No DQ match or something against a "proven" ex-champ.
But ya right now the WWE Title is not being respected a lot kayfabe-wise!
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:57 PM
The RAW champion has basically been Triple H, John Cena and Randy Orton for the last four-five years with a little bit of Edge and Jericho being the silver lining.
The Franchise
02-03-2010, 07:58 PM
Yeah, if Sheamus is truly going to be in a Wrestlemania title match he needs a strong and convincing win at EC.
thedamndest
02-03-2010, 08:00 PM
I see what they're trying to do with Sheamus, but I just get the feeling that there really isn't any kind of goal for him beyond keeping the title off Cena/Orton/HHH. Just putting the strap on him from where he was and not letting him do anything with it doesn't make him anything more than a paper champion. Even if he only got a three month reign at least have him pin someone during those three months.
EDWARD
02-03-2010, 08:03 PM
he was cool when he first came in like every other guy, but he was pushed way too fast. it's hard for me to just accept him as a wwe champ right now.
NoRoolz
02-03-2010, 08:38 PM
WWE is in more of a position to do something like this though, tbf.
It's still massively retarded whatever position you're in. It's a shame the WWE world titles have lost so much prestige since about 2003.
Fignuts
02-03-2010, 08:40 PM
Shaemus should NOT win at EC. He doesn't even deserve to be champion, let alone defend the title at mania. Come on.
Droford
02-03-2010, 10:31 PM
I thought that there was no chance Sheamus retained at EC but the more and more I think about it, they might as well.
Orton - will feud with Legacy, probable match at WM
Ted Dibiase - see Orton
Cena - will face Batista at WM
HHH - will feud with and maybe have a match with HBK at WM
Kofi - Wildcard, but him winning and having a Title defense at WM makes less sense than Sheamus at this point.
Sure, they could put the belt on any of them but do any of these matches need a belt up for grabs in order to be meaningful?
Out of all of them, Ted Dibiase winning makes at least some sense because then Orton is pissed, legacy explodes and..blah blah..Orton wins the belt back at WM.
Emperor Smeat
02-03-2010, 10:43 PM
If anything, the booking of Sheamus is just like Benoit when he won in 2004 after Wrestlemania. Instead of capitalizing on the special moment to start a huge push (heel or face), they do something stupid such as make their main champion seem weak or not even involved in the show. If it is true that he will headline Wrestlemania and looses the title, it won't come off as a special moment and maybe hurt the initial moment of him winning the title similar to Benoit in 2004 post-title.
Similar to Benoit and other champions not pushed, this is more of the booking team's fault than Sheamus not working as champion. Eddie Guerrero once thought he was the reason why his 1st reign on Smackdown was lackluster in ratings but Vince and the booking team made sure his character staid as strong as possible to keep his morale up.
Anybody Thrilla
02-03-2010, 11:38 PM
Interesting discussion here...let me add a LITTLE something...
My eleven year old cousin was at my house for the Royal Rumble. During the Orton/Sheamus match, he asked "if Sheamus beats Randy Orton, does that mean he's the best wrestler on Raw?". The question kind of caught me off guard, so I replied "well what do you mean?". He said "well he already beat Cena, so if he beats Orton too, who on Raw could beat him?".
I guess the Sheamus push is working with the current prime demographic.
For me, I still don't exactly know how to feel about Sheamus. I don't HATE him, but something about him being the champion just irritates the shit out of me. Even if he DID start winning matches against credible opponents, it would still feel forced to me. I think they really just jumped the gun by at least two years on the guy and I feel it will hurt him in the long run. What happens to him after he eventually loses the title? Surely he's not a mainstay in the main event. He'll flounder in the midcard and eventually be forgotten about, I think.
You know who really could have used this title reign? Jack Swagger. He's already been the ECW champion. He's had competitive matches with Cena. He's been around for a lot longer than Sheamus. A little transitional reign could have done wonders for Swagger, and it would also give him some more ammo in his constant trash talk to everybody. When his reign was over, he could have gone right back to where he was, only this time with everybody thinking that he was capable of doing it again some day.
Emperor Smeat
02-03-2010, 11:41 PM
I think WWE was really thinking of doing something similar to what you said with Swagger since they started his undefeated till end of the year or Rumble/Wrestlemania. It would have built him up wonderfully to be seen as a legit contender but they pulled the plug on the push too early and gave Cena the "undefeated promise" push when he didn't need it.
Dorkchop
02-03-2010, 11:43 PM
I like Sheamus, but he's not being booked to well. Maybe no one wants to put him over. He needs to have some good matches and beat guys clean. Mid carders and established guys. Let's just hope he doesn't get a Rey Mysterio title reign.
D Mac
02-04-2010, 04:09 AM
Perhaps that's why he's a heel. :roll:
Mr. Nerfect
02-04-2010, 04:38 AM
Interesting discussion here...let me add a LITTLE something...
My eleven year old cousin was at my house for the Royal Rumble. During the Orton/Sheamus match, he asked "if Sheamus beats Randy Orton, does that mean he's the best wrestler on Raw?". The question kind of caught me off guard, so I replied "well what do you mean?". He said "well he already beat Cena, so if he beats Orton too, who on Raw could beat him?".
I guess the Sheamus push is working with the current prime demographic.
For me, I still don't exactly know how to feel about Sheamus. I don't HATE him, but something about him being the champion just irritates the shit out of me. Even if he DID start winning matches against credible opponents, it would still feel forced to me. I think they really just jumped the gun by at least two years on the guy and I feel it will hurt him in the long run. What happens to him after he eventually loses the title? Surely he's not a mainstay in the main event. He'll flounder in the midcard and eventually be forgotten about, I think.
You know who really could have used this title reign? Jack Swagger. He's already been the ECW champion. He's had competitive matches with Cena. He's been around for a lot longer than Sheamus. A little transitional reign could have done wonders for Swagger, and it would also give him some more ammo in his constant trash talk to everybody. When his reign was over, he could have gone right back to where he was, only this time with everybody thinking that he was capable of doing it again some day.
This. Everything about this.
I get what the WWE are trying to do with Sheamus. I actually see some sense in it. They wanted to go with a shock WWE Champion. Winning the WWE Title out of the blue would not work for anyone, and there is debate about whether or not it has worked for Sheamus. But in a kayfabe sense, Sheamus is pretty fucking dominant. He lays out pretty much everyone, and beat John Cena for the title, and defended it successfully against Randy Orton at the Royal Rumble.
Sheamus has not really had it easy. He's been thrown right into the deep end, and he seems to be doing well under the pressure. Good for him. I agree that Jack Swagger would have been perfect for this role, but they chose Sheamus. Whatever, he's doing fine in his position. I'm getting the impression the WWE actually wants us to be surprised when he wins all his matches. It's like what Striker mentioned while hyping the Sheamus/Orton match -- "The WWE Superstars are yet to figure out Sheamus."
If you believe in kayfabe -- and they are the guys the WWE aims their product at -- Sheamus winning the WWE Title probably would have been the biggest shock of the year. You'd want to see Sheamus beaten, but you don't know enough about him to know if he can be beaten. You don't care about air-time, and shit like that. Sheamus is the WWE Champion...fact. That means he's better than the rest of the RAW roster...kayfabe fact. Those are your givens. The storyline is a bunch of guys all stepping up to face Sheamus, and getting knocked down. Cena's been knocked down; Orton's been knocked down. Now Sheamus has to face John Cena, Triple H, Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase and Kofi Kingston. Fans will be aching to see Sheamus de-throned here, but I don't think it happens. I think he continues to prove the WWE Universe (sorry) wrong, and continues his reign as WWE Champion.
Triple H will probably start the match pretty early, and Sheamus will probably get a late entry. But I see Sheamus retaining the title over an exhausted Triple H relatively cleanly. This leads to Triple H wanting a WWE Title Match with Sheamus when they are both fresh. And believe it or not, I think Triple H will put over Sheamus at WrestleMania XXVI.
Joesgonnakillyou
02-04-2010, 07:45 AM
They never book a Heel's first world title runs very strong. Look at HHH and The Rock. HHH lost his first title to Vince and The Rock was struggling to beat X-Pac.
WWE just have there own way of doing things but it can work out in the end. Plus Sheamus has got to get heat from somewhere.
Gertner
02-04-2010, 09:25 AM
Not to sound like a bitch, but seriously imagine the grief TNA would get for putting the fucking world title on someone nowhere near established enough, and making little effort to make him appear credible.
'lol WWE'
Kinda like how they did with Abyss?
Gertner
02-04-2010, 09:27 AM
He's getting solid crowd reactions, he's a pretty good wrestler. It's just the IWC that are bitching about this.
My Final Heaven
02-04-2010, 10:10 AM
I don't mind him at all tbh. After 2 years of Cena as champion, another year of Cena, Orton and HHH trading the belt, this is a breathe of fresh air.
As we saw with Randy Orton, heels just aren't booked as dominant anymore. Which is a shame, but that's just the way it is now.
My Final Heaven
02-04-2010, 10:11 AM
He's getting solid crowd reactions, he's a pretty good wrestler. It's just the IWC that are bitching about this.
Droford
02-04-2010, 05:47 PM
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Jeritron
02-04-2010, 08:53 PM
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screech
02-04-2010, 09:23 PM
I'm still not a huge Sheamus fan, but I actually think he's doing well as champion. He was pretty much thrown into the mix randomly to be tested, and so far I think he is passing. Sure he isn't getting clean/decisive victories, but he is still getting them (and good crowd reactions as well).
And he does have a sense of mystery to him, because his challengers don't really know how he can be beaten.
I think he heads into WM as the champion. I think he will be the last person to enter and pick up a relatively quick win. Not sure who he would beat, but that person would probably get a shot at him at WM (provided Edge doesn't) because of it.
The RAW champion has basically been Triple H, John Cena and Randy Orton for the last four-five years with a little bit of Edge and Jericho being the silver lining.
You forget, and I cant blame you for that was no silver lining:-
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t241/MagneticHeat/Batista__s_Funny_Face_by_TwistedWWE.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
02-04-2010, 10:31 PM
http://www.batmancomic.info/gen/20100204154748_4b6b4e94834ec.jpg
Conversely...
http://batmancomic.info/gen/20100204203048_4b6b90e86cbaf.jpg
The Franchise
02-04-2010, 11:16 PM
Women like Cena and Robin is basically a girl, so it makes sense he thinks Cena should be WWE Champion.
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