Better Wrestler #131

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Congratulations to Macho Man for his induction into the TPWW Better Wrestler Hall of Fame. Oh yes. Now let's start er up again with some former partners squaring off.
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"The Model" Rick Martel


VS


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"El Matador" Tito Santana



3 days.

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[Rammsteinmad]

Tough one here as I only know a bit about each wrestler. 'The Model' Rick Martel had a more entertaining gimmick though IMO, so I voted Martel.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Also how bout telling us the reason for your votes instead of just voting and running away you cowards. Hate you all.

[Nicky Fives]

Santana was more successful, but Martel was far more entertaining for me, so he gets my vote.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

This is a message board, not a voting board.

[VSG]

I voted Santana because he was a better wrestler- Period!

[The Franchise]

Don't know too much about these guys. I've seen some of their stuff from watching Youtube videos and Martel was definitely the more entertaining and better mic worker of the two. In terms of matches neither one really stood out so I guess Martel gets my vote simply for being more entertaining.

[thedamndest]

DID YOU KNOW?

Rick Martel once held the record for the Royal Rumble time with 53 minutes.

[The Franchise]

Also the Airplane Spin was ridiculous :cool:

[redoneja]

Damn, really tough choice.

They were both great talents and each had the potential to be top tier midcard talents. I'm gonna have to go with Rick Martel though. I don't know why, but I was a big Martel fan as a kid, even though he was a heel when I started watching.

During the IC Title Battle Royal and subsequent finals match, I was rooting for Martel over Razor Ramon. I also had high hopes for Martel when he emerged in WCW in early 1998.

I only later would get to see Martel in his AWA days and his early WWF days as a tag team wrestler in Strike Force and the Can-Am Connection. Tremendous talent.

Santana was good, but I gotta go with Martel.

[Loose Cannon]

Great match. I loved watching these two square off because they were so similar. They were both tremendous workers in the ring. I also loved the way their feud always continued even after they stopped thier storyline together. Like if Santana saw Martel in the Rumble, he would go right after him. It was those little things that I really liked back then. Same thing with HBK/Jannetty, Bret/Owen.


Now, both guys had very successful runs as mid card wrestlers. Both were successful in tag teams. Santana had a very nice run with the IC Title and it was one of the better IC Title runs ever. Martel really helped get that TV Title over again in WCW with his feud with Booker T. They worked a very nice program together

Martel was a much better interview then Tito and had a bit more charisma then him. Martel also got over as both a heel and babyface, while Tito will always be remembered for his babyface run.

I am going to give the edge to Martel for this one.

[The Pope]

Tito Santana

[IRodC]

Frito Santana

[Nark Order]

Chico Santana had tons of ability from what I've seen but was never really a big fan. Rick Martel was great though. Great character, worked well in the ring, and had battles with many of the greats. Vote goes to The Model.

[sa]

I have no idea who they are so i voted for Rick Martel!

[Arashi Kage]

The Model.

Very entertaining character. Always enjoyed his promos, his feud with Tatanka is very memorable to me. :y:

Santana was always one of those "filler" guys to me. Just another spot on the roster.

[jskinnyg]

Tito get me some tissue...

[Cuzziebro]

Rick mainly due to his entertainment value!

[AKin3D]

I voted for Rick. His feud with Jake "The Snake" Roberts is the first thing that comes to mind. Next is well... Arrogance.

Just a random thought. Miz and Rick have the same "air" about them. I could see Miz saling his own cologne.

[Juan]

I really liked Rick Martel's feud with Jake Roberts.

[The Jayman]

I voted Martel b/c I enjoyed his promos and just his character all around.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I don't remember too much of either due to being perpetual mid-carders, but I voted for Tito as he reminds me of the Spanish wrestling robot in Futurama.

MY VALUES ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS! LOOK AT MY CRAZY PASSPORT!

Ultimate heel

[Gertner]

Martel was horribly under-rated and should be in the WWE HOF. AWA World Champion, 3 time WWE Tag Team Champion, WCW TV Title Champ. Martel wins.

[Wolfpack423]

I like both guys a great deal, but I always liked Martel better. Santana was very entertaining to watch in the ring, but Martel was underrated in the ring and had a good persona to go with it. i liked in 1998 when he went to WCW and he was the television champion for a bit, I thought he looked like Sylvester Stallone at one point.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Rick Martel if for nothing else besides a huge button that said "YES, I AM A MODEL" and the "No Hitting in the Face" match with Shawn Michaels.

[FourFifty]

Do I have to pick one?

[Gertner]

Val Venis completely ripped off the Model's theme

[The Gold Standard]

Tito

[Destor]

This one is too close for me to use anything outside of personal bias. Can`t stand Martel. Tito wins.

[The One]

Tito. Personally wasn't a hard choice at all and I'm SHOCKED to see Martel in the lead currently.

By the way we have 7 people in the HoF currently; and not one of them is Ric Flair. You all fucking suck.

TOVO Fact: Tovo buys Duracell batteries, Energizers are for pussies.

[Innovator]

Tito via flying burrito

[Strike Force]

I gotta go tito, was IC champ and got over pretty big during the hogan big man era. also a very good wrestler, able to get the crowd to care about his matches

[Skippord]

I remember watching the Rick Martel vs Jake Roberts blindfold match a lot when I was a kid

so Rick Martel

[Loose Cannon]

lol you weren't even born when that match happened. I'm assuming you must of caught it years later

[Theo Dious]

They were both quite awesome, however Martel was far more interesting to watch.

[Skippord]

lol you weren't even born when that match happened. I'm assuming you must of caught it years later
yeah I think I had it on tape or something

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Looking back now I can't even believe that Rick Martel was actually a face at one point. Such a good heel. He gets my vote.

[Tazz Dan]

I voted Tito. Rick Martel wasn't bad, and he had a good gimmick in 'The Model', but I was always into El Matador that little bit more. Ole!

http://www.wrestlingworld.it/Historical/wwhallofshame/elmatador/09.jpg

[Anybody Thrilla]

How the fuck were you into El Matador? That's points against in my opinion. The Model was such a better gimmick that you're kinda making me want to punch you right now.

[Nark Order]

How the fuck were you into El Matador? That's points against in my opinion. The Model was such a better gimmick that you're kinda making me want to punch you right now.

Pretty much this.

"I dunno, I was just really into Marty Garner for some reason."