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legendkillerRKO
02-19-2010, 12:14 AM
it seems after reading the interviews by Miz and Morrison that they are building up the fact that Danielson has more experience than Miz and that this pairing is backwards...Im thinking this leads into a feud on the show between the two which will culminate in danielson being brought up to the main roster and taking the US title from Miz? any thoughts?
What Would Kevin Do?
02-19-2010, 12:18 AM
It could happen. Reading Miz's comments, I don't necessarily disagree with him either. If he can get Bryan's personality to come through, he'll be doing his job. While Miz can't teach Danielson anything about wrestling, he can teach him about developing a character.
Traiklin1982
02-19-2010, 12:18 AM
I agree. Danielson is going to be great no matter what they do with him.
Nark Order
02-19-2010, 12:18 AM
I don't really understand why this is that big of an issue at all. I'm sure I'll get some smark backlash for this but... To the casual fan, The Miz is a more successful professional wrestler than Bryan Danielson. More exposure, more TV time, more titles, more time in the "big leagues."
What Would Kevin Do?
02-19-2010, 12:31 AM
I don't really understand why this is that big of an issue at all. I'm sure I'll get some smark backlash for this but... To the casual fan, The Miz is a more successful professional wrestler than Bryan Danielson. More exposure, more TV time, more titles, more time in the "big leagues."
While that is true, I'm fairly certain they're going to build up that Danielson has been wrestling for over a decade, has wrestled all over the world, etc, etc. They'll play Danielson up as having more experience then the Miz, I think that's what they're going for though.
Nark Order
02-19-2010, 12:35 AM
That would make tons of sense and I hope they do that. I always hate when they bring in guys that have been around forever, give them a new name, and act like they walked in out of nowhere.
What Would Kevin Do?
02-19-2010, 12:53 AM
I'm pretty sure, since when they showed his image on ECW, one of the commentators said he'd been wrestling for X amount of years, has wrestled all over the world, and pretty much won a title everywhere he's been.
I'm pretty sure, since when they showed his image on ECW, one of the commentators said he'd been wrestling for X amount of years, has wrestled all over the world, and pretty much won a title everywhere he's been.
Pretty much
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Favre4Ever
02-19-2010, 02:02 AM
I just want to put out there that plenty of wrestlers with experience wrestling all over the world have crashed and burned when they got a shot in the WWE. Danielson has no guarantees.
Favre4Ever
02-19-2010, 02:04 AM
That being said I hope he does make it. Dude has unlimited potential but the WWE is a little bit different than global indy promotions.
Innovator
02-19-2010, 11:59 AM
If Dragon can be the cocky heel like he was during his title run in ROH, his charisma CAN some through
Anybody Thrilla
02-19-2010, 12:03 PM
If Daniel Bryan ends up dethroning The Miz, I hope it leads to The Miz jumping up to the main event.
The Gold Standard
02-19-2010, 01:45 PM
I laughed when I first heard The Miz and Bryan would be together. I was thinking, what could The Miz teach Bryan?
After reading Miz's comments, he was completely right. Bryan has about as much flavor as a piece in toast and I think The Miz can make Bryan even better than he is now by giving him some flavor. As The Miz said, just because you are successful in the indies, does not mean you will be successful in WWE. It is a totally different game.
Jeritron
02-19-2010, 01:51 PM
I'm sure he was kayfabing those comments, but like any good promo there's truth to them.
I think the relationship could be pretty hilarious. It's a great way to launch Danielson's career in WWE, I think.
It will allow him to be shown off, while at the same time complementing him with a sports entertainment angle. Some of the "flavor" will rub off, and I'd imagine the fued could define his WWE persona.
Anybody Thrilla
02-19-2010, 01:56 PM
I think it's awesome that here in 2010, we can sit here and discuss how The Miz can help develop other talents as opposed to us just wishing that Smackdown didn't have a host.
Jeritron
02-19-2010, 01:59 PM
I'm pretty sure The Miz should start tweeting during matches
Fignuts
02-19-2010, 02:06 PM
I just want to put out there that plenty of wrestlers with experience wrestling all over the world have crashed and burned when they got a shot in the WWE. Danielson has no guarantees.
9 times out of 10, it's been because of bad booking though, and to no fault of the superstar in question.
Prime examples: Ultimo Dragon, Taz
Danielson has a lot of supporters in WWE as far as I know. He may not become huge, but I think he'll be showcased well for whatever time he's there.
Jeritron
02-19-2010, 02:16 PM
I think Taz could have been a big star in WWE, but I don't think Ultimo ever stood a chance to see the type of success Rey did.
Maybe if the cruiserweight division was booked stronger in general, he'd have a better chance, but I don't think the WWE crowd really had any interest from day one.
The Gold Standard
02-19-2010, 11:49 PM
I don't think Taz stood a chance and that is because of his size. We all know Vince likes the big guys and Taz is short.
Mr. Nerfect
02-20-2010, 12:32 AM
I am really looking forward to this Miz/Daniel Bryan pairing. There is just so much there. The fact that Bryan has always twice the experience that The Miz has. Bryan has won titles all over the world, whereas The Miz has been largely based in one continent. The Miz is loud and obnoxious, whereas Bryan will only say something when he has something to say. This is going to be great contrast, and I would not be surprised at all if it led to Daniel Bryan dethroning The Miz for the United States Title, and setting himself as a plucky babyface with a ton of potential.
It'll be fun to see Daniel Bryan interacting with Big Show, too. Hopefully they put Maryse with Show-Miz on-air, and we get to see her interact with Bryan, too. I see Daniel Bryan sort of holding his tongue, and just keeping his cool for a good duration of NXT, even showing up on RAW carrying the bags of Miz and Big Show -- only to eventually get a smirk on his face one day, and just snap on Miz -- either physically or verbally.
Joesgonnakillyou
02-20-2010, 12:08 PM
I hate that people just assume that Dragon has no Charisma/Character because he can wrestle well. You see some of his stuff in ROH when he was champ he showed a ton of Character, he's great on the mic. He's an all rounder, seriously.
Fignuts
02-20-2010, 02:21 PM
I think Taz could have been a big star in WWE, but I don't think Ultimo ever stood a chance to see the type of success Rey did.
Maybe if the cruiserweight division was booked stronger in general, he'd have a better chance, but I don't think the WWE crowd really had any interest from day one.
Bull. Crowd went nuts for him in his debut. And I'm not saying Ultimo could have been as successful as Rey in general, but he certainly could have been just as successful within the cruiserweight division. The CW division was booked strong for a long time, when you had Rey, Tajiri, Kidman, and Noble in it.
Reason Ultimo wasn't pushed, is because Vince thought he was getting another Rey Mysterio, just because they both wear masks. I guess the thought of watching some of Ultimo's matches before signing him, didn't occur to Vince.
Even then, it's still ridiculous, as ultimo is the best cruiserweight that company has ever employed, outside of maybe Tigermask, and a fued building to wrestlemania between him and Rey would have kept the division strong. Instead they just stopped trying.
Mr. Nerfect
02-20-2010, 08:41 PM
I have to agree with Fignuts. Why wouldn't Ultimo Dragon ever stand a chance? I still don't get that. What makes Rey Mysterio so much more "serious" or "marketable" than Ultimo Dragon? If they had brought in Ultimo as a guy hyped as being able to do it all (martial arts, wrestle, fly, etc.), and put the Cruiserweight Title on him, I think he would have done just fine. Instead they stuck him on Velocity.
Supreme Olajuwon
02-20-2010, 08:58 PM
I don't think Taz stood a chance and that is because of his size. We all know Vince likes the big guys and Taz is short.
Vince does like monsters but there have been plenty of undersized guys who were huge in WWE
Eddie Guerrero was 5'8
Chris Jericho is 5'10
Chris Benoit was 5'9
Davey Boy Smith was 5'9
Owen Hart was 5'10
Jeff Jarrett is 5'10
Rob Van Dam is 5'11
I dunno, judging by that list, I'd be less concerned about Danielson being undersized than I would be him dying in the next 5 years :o
Loose Cannon
02-20-2010, 09:32 PM
I have to agree with Fignuts. Why wouldn't Ultimo Dragon ever stand a chance? I still don't get that. What makes Rey Mysterio so much more "serious" or "marketable" than Ultimo Dragon? If they had brought in Ultimo as a guy hyped as being able to do it all (martial arts, wrestle, fly, etc.), and put the Cruiserweight Title on him, I think he would have done just fine. Instead they stuck him on Velocity.
you kind of answered your own question as to why Ultimo would of never made it big in WWE. It's because he had a shelf life. Yea, he wins the cruisertitle and then what? That's as high as he would of ever got.
When did Rey Mysterio start becoming a huge supserstar? When he bulked up and when he started talking more. Mysterio started wrestling a heavyweight style and kept a little of his high flying arsenal. It worked.
Please don't blame bad booking on Ultimo's quick exit in the WWE. Almost all the top guys go through bad booking at some point or another. Ultimo could never work the mic and it's very hard to connect with the WWE crowd when you are under a mask and can't work a mic.
Testicle
02-20-2010, 09:36 PM
Just to respond to the Taz stuff: He didn't stand a chance because his body was ruined by the time he got to the WWE.
As far as Miz and Danielson is concerned, this is one of the most intriguing angles the WWE has done in a while. To me it shows that they are going to make Danielson the star of the show and the first one to be pushed to the main shows.
Fignuts
02-20-2010, 10:44 PM
you kind of answered your own question as to why Ultimo would of never made it big in WWE. It's because he had a shelf life. Yea, he wins the cruisertitle and then what? That's as high as he would of ever got.
When did Rey Mysterio start becoming a huge supserstar? When he bulked up and when he started talking more. Mysterio started wrestling a heavyweight style and kept a little of his high flying arsenal. It worked.
Please don't blame bad booking on Ultimo's quick exit in the WWE. Almost all the top guys go through bad booking at some point or another. Ultimo could never work the mic and it's very hard to connect with the WWE crowd when you are under a mask and can't work a mic.
He wasn't even given a chance ffs. Don't think he had a match past 8 minutes. Given his in-ring talent, that's bad booking, no matter how you look at it.
And don't give me that "well he can't speak english" reason. He and countless other non-english speaking wrestlers became mad over in wcw, because even the casual mainstream wrestling fans that watched wcw(the same type of fans who make up the majority of wwe's audience.) appreciated them for their in-ring skills.
In-ring skills alone may not get someone far in the main event, but the cruiserweight boom in america started because of pure in-ring talent.
Even besides that, ultimo also could have been a tag champ outside of the cruiserweight. I even think his talent was signifigant to even have a run with the U.S. or Intercontinental Title.
Loose Cannon
02-20-2010, 11:00 PM
dude, give it up. We're not talking WCW or ECW or Japan or whatever other Fed. We are talking WWE in 2004. He didn't have a prayer.
And those "non english guys" in WCW didn't become mad over. are you kidding me?? If they were "mad over" then the entire WCW roster around 1996/1997 was mad over. Guys Jericho, Guerrero, Malenko, Syxx and Mysterio carried that division.
Please, the WWF has NEVER pushed cruserweight styles. Why would they start with Ultimo? Because he had a month and a half combined run with the Crusierweight Title?
He didn't have much of a run with the belt because he just wasn't as marketable as the other guys. That's why he reigns/runs were very short.
Fignuts
02-20-2010, 11:25 PM
He was also a two-time Television champ. Going up against guys bigger than him, that you seem to think he couldn't do? Funny how they kept giving him all these titles, if he wasn't popular.
Fact is, he wasn't competeing solely for wcw at the time, and he was something of a nomad at the time, wrestling all over the world, so that was likely a much larger factor in his short title reigns.
Also, Juvi wasn't over? La Parka wasn't over? Fuck, Malenko never talked besides his fued with Jericho, and he was well over, before that happened. I'm not talking about freaking stonecold steve austin pops, but certainly big enough to be given a chance as a top cruiserweight.
And there's no way you watched even one episode of wcw if you think that audience is that different from 2004 WWE. Or even WWE right now. They weren't a bunch ROH smarks, who only appreciate great technical wrestling. They were mostly kids, and casual fans. Same type of people that have made up the majority of wwe's audience for years. There is virtually no reason why any cruiserweight who got over then, shouldn't be able to get over in wwe now, other than not getting a chance.
Like I said, it would be one thing if dragon received a couple ppv matches, to show what he can do, and failed to be a hit, but he wasn't even given that. You can debate whether Dragon would have been successful all you want, but you can't debate the fact that he wasn't even given chance to try.
Anybody Thrilla
02-20-2010, 11:27 PM
He slipped on the grandest stage of them all.
Anybody Thrilla
02-20-2010, 11:30 PM
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Loose Cannon
02-21-2010, 12:01 AM
He was also a two-time Television champ. Going up against guys bigger than him, that you seem to think he couldn't do? Funny how they kept giving him all these titles, if he wasn't popular.
Fact is, he wasn't competeing solely for wcw at the time, and he was something of a nomad at the time, wrestling all over the world, so that was likely a much larger factor in his short title reigns.
Also, Juvi wasn't over? La Parka wasn't over? Fuck, Malenko never talked besides his fued with Jericho, and he was well over, before that happened. I'm not talking about freaking stonecold steve austin pops, but certainly big enough to be given a chance as a top cruiserweight.
And there's no way you watched even one episode of wcw if you think that audience is that different from 2004 WWE. Or even WWE right now. They weren't a bunch ROH smarks, who only appreciate great technical wrestling. They were mostly kids, and casual fans. Same type of people that have made up the majority of wwe's audience for years. There is virtually no reason why any cruiserweight who got over then, shouldn't be able to get over in wwe now, other than not getting a chance.
Like I said, it would be one thing if dragon received a couple ppv matches, to show what he can do, and failed to be a hit, but he wasn't even given that. You can debate whether Dragon would have been successful all you want, but you can't debate the fact that he wasn't even given chance to try.
come on, you're seriously going to bring in the TV Title? Look at the champions during his reign. Except for Regal, those guys were never major players. The Crusier division was miles ahead in terms of drawing/business. The Booker T/Benoit feud saved that belt from becoming worthless at that time.
I'm not even going to try and argue if you think the audience in 96 is the same as today. that's just retarded.
La Parka and Juvi and the rest of the lot were over as crusierweights during a short boom. That entire division was over. It was something new to fans, but again you needed guys like Jericho, Guerrero and Syxx (with the nWo behind him) to carry it because they could work the mic and draw heat.
Most of the other crusiers had a short shelf life. Hence that little thing in 1998 Called the LWO. WCW didn't know what to do with these guys anymore so they stuck them all in one stable as a last desperate attempt to give them a rub
At the end of the day you're argument is Ultimo didn't get over in WWE because he didn't have a chance. There's plenty of guys that have recieved shitty pushes, but have managed to get over. Ultimo was already handicapped by his mask, his Japanese style and he couldn't talk. So it's not a surprise that the WWE saw nothing in him as far as giving him any major run. There's plenty of smart business minded people in WWE and I'm sure if there was money to be made with Ultimo, they would of made it.
Loose Cannon
02-21-2010, 12:07 AM
you Ultimo Dragon marks are the worst of the worst btw. all of you. fucking insane :lol:
thecc
02-21-2010, 12:50 AM
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wwenxt/danielbryan/photos/studiophotos/
photos 4 and 5
Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2010, 12:59 AM
you kind of answered your own question as to why Ultimo would of never made it big in WWE. It's because he had a shelf life. Yea, he wins the cruisertitle and then what? That's as high as he would of ever got.
When did Rey Mysterio start becoming a huge supserstar? When he bulked up and when he started talking more. Mysterio started wrestling a heavyweight style and kept a little of his high flying arsenal. It worked.
Please don't blame bad booking on Ultimo's quick exit in the WWE. Almost all the top guys go through bad booking at some point or another. Ultimo could never work the mic and it's very hard to connect with the WWE crowd when you are under a mask and can't work a mic.
Why not a manager? I don't really see the difference between Ultimo Dragon and Rey Mysterio. They were both masked guys brought in and told to do flashy stuff. Rey Mysterio spent quite a while in the Cruiserweight Division, too, you seem to forget. The difference between them is that Rey won numerous Cruiserweight Titles, while Ultimo Dragon was put on Velocity.
Maybe it's because Dragon refused to take off his mask like Stephanie McMahon wanted; or it was because he just missed out on the era of the smaller wrestler being pushed with a lot more consideration -- but to put the blame of Ultimo Dragon's WWE run entirely on him is a bit silly. I remember actually being interested in watching Dragon at the time; but I couldn't find him. I remember actually partially ordering WrestleMania XX because it would feature Dragon in the Cruiserweight Open and I hadn't seen much of him. I would have been one of the few, but don't say that Dragon was there and got the same chances as Rey Mysterio (who wrestled Kurt Angle in his first WWE PPV match).
Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2010, 01:01 AM
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wwenxt/danielbryan/photos/studiophotos/
photos 4 and 5
He looks bad-ass in a suit. I know he trained under him, and respects the fuck out of the man -- but there is something William Regal-ish in the aura Daniel Bryan has. I'm marking out for him in those photos. I just wish that he had his longer hair.
you Ultimo Dragon marks are the worst of the worst btw. all of you. fucking insane :lol:
I thought ROH marks were the worst??
Skippord
02-21-2010, 03:18 AM
kinda looks like Chris Nowinski in the suit to me
Fignuts
02-21-2010, 03:48 AM
come on, you're seriously going to bring in the TV Title? Look at the champions during his reign. Except for Regal, those guys were never major players. The Crusier division was miles ahead in terms of drawing/business. The Booker T/Benoit feud saved that belt from becoming worthless at that time.
I'm not even going to try and argue if you think the audience in 96 is the same as today. that's just retarded.
La Parka and Juvi and the rest of the lot were over as crusierweights during a short boom. That entire division was over. It was something new to fans, but again you needed guys like Jericho, Guerrero and Syxx (with the nWo behind him) to carry it because they could work the mic and draw heat.
Most of the other crusiers had a short shelf life. Hence that little thing in 1998 Called the LWO. WCW didn't know what to do with these guys anymore so they stuck them all in one stable as a last desperate attempt to give them a rub
At the end of the day you're argument is Ultimo didn't get over in WWE because he didn't have a chance. There's plenty of guys that have recieved shitty pushes, but have managed to get over. Ultimo was already handicapped by his mask, his Japanese style and he couldn't talk. So it's not a surprise that the WWE saw nothing in him as far as giving him any major run. There's plenty of smart business minded people in WWE and I'm sure if there was money to be made with Ultimo, they would of made it.
Regal is the guy he beat for the title, fyi. Both reigns.
You can say whatever you want, I don't care. I've seen every major cruiserweight match, from the early wwwf stuff with Tigermask and Dynamite, all the way up to 2005, and the crowd was into every single one of them.
Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2010, 08:32 AM
What's Ultimo Dragon doing these days? His Wikipedia page doesn't list him as retired. And hell, it still has Joey Mercury listed as retired. To be honest, I would mark out fucking hard if Dragon showed up on SmackDown!. He's apparently 43, and has no doubt been slowed by injuries, but the WWE style is slower anyway. Some guys who work the same style go longer. He's been gone for so long that his last run in the WWE would largely be forgotten. They can hype him as a hero to both Japanese and Spanish-speaking fans.
Part of me just really wants to hear Matt Striker call an Ultimo Dragon match.
Fignuts
02-21-2010, 12:08 PM
He's in an Italian promotion. Nu-Wrestling Evolution, I think it's called.
The Show Off
02-21-2010, 12:09 PM
He looks bad-ass in a suit. I know he trained under him, and respects the fuck out of the man -- but there is something William Regal-ish in the aura Daniel Bryan has. I'm marking out for him in those photos. I just wish that he had his longer hair.
Danileson wrestles a lot like William Regal, technically smooth yet hard hitting. He uses lot of european uppercuts as well as grinding in some of those submission moves. He walks around the ring like he's above it all in the ring supremely confident with that aura of smugness... Hell Danielson's maroon trunks are the same style that Regal used to wear in WCW. No wonder he reminds people or Regal.
Loose Cannon
02-21-2010, 12:25 PM
Regal is the guy he beat for the title, fyi. Both reigns.
You can say whatever you want, I don't care. I've seen every major cruiserweight match, from the early wwwf stuff with Tigermask and Dynamite, all the way up to 2005, and the crowd was into every single one of them.
actually he beat Price Iaukea the first time, but whatever, it was not a well rounded division. Mostly the lower end guys.
Look, Ultimo Dragon was a great worker. One of the greatest workers of all-time, but his style was always going to take him so far in the United States. It's just the way it is and always has been since when pro wreslting started here. Crusierweight matches are fun to watch. They are fast paced, exciting and fans do like them. Not arguing that. But those type of wrstlers will never hold top spots in a company like WWE unless they change thier style completely.
By the way, I think Dragon should of recieved a run with the WWE Lightheavy/Crusier belt. That I will give you. I think Taijiri had it for a while when he was there and that would of been a good feud
Loose Cannon
02-21-2010, 12:29 PM
I thought ROH marks were the worst??
nah, they are kind of in thier own world. Like I know you like ROH and a lot of others (like Noid, Inno, WWKD, Fignuts) on here do. But you guys are actually smart and understand wrestling. Then you have the other lot that thinks ROH is the end all be all of wrestling and WWE is some kind of bully. That I can't stand
Fignuts
02-21-2010, 12:55 PM
actually he beat Price Iaukea the first time, but whatever, it was not a well rounded division. Mostly the lower end guys.
Look, Ultimo Dragon was a great worker. One of the greatest workers of all-time, but his style was always going to take him so far in the United States. It's just the way it is and always has been since when pro wreslting started here. Crusierweight matches are fun to watch. They are fast paced, exciting and fans do like them. Not arguing that. But those type of wrstlers will never hold top spots in a company like WWE unless they change thier style completely.
Hell, that's fine. i would never suggest Ultimo hold the top spot in WWE. But he definitely could have filled a role. They teased a fued between him and Rey , who was cruiserweight champ at the time, after his debut match. They should have ran with that, at least until the next PPV. Dragon was at his best in america, when he was the foil to a popular face, be it Malenko, or mysterio. That's really how he should have been brought in. I also agree with Noid, that he should have had a heel manager. That solves the lack of talking on Ultimo's part, to some extent.
And I disagree on the mask being a detriment. When you've got a ton of masked wrestlers like they did in wcw, maybe. But the fact that he was the only other masked wrestler in wwe at the time, and that wwe constantly reminded fans of the importance of the mask, would have just added to the fued with Mysterio. And kids love masks. WWE might not of been as PG as it is now, but there were still millions of kids watching, and you would have made a lot of money on Ultimo masks, if he would have been given a bigger role in the CW division.
I'm not some ant-wwe, ROH-bot. think I've only watched roh about five or six times, tbh. And I will agree that the powers that be in wwe are smart, business minded people, but they are only human. They can make mistakes. I doubt that you have agreed with every decision they've ever made. Well I feel that Ultimo could have been a great heel foil to Rey mysterio.
That's it. Not WWE World Heavyweight Champion. Not the "top guy". I don't think that is asking too much, imo.
Loose Cannon
02-21-2010, 01:08 PM
:y:
Indifferent Clox
02-21-2010, 01:35 PM
i don't think wwe is realy a bully, i think each has it's place.
Mr. Nerfect
02-21-2010, 03:51 PM
Danileson wrestles a lot like William Regal, technically smooth yet hard hitting. He uses lot of european uppercuts as well as grinding in some of those submission moves. He walks around the ring like he's above it all in the ring supremely confident with that aura of smugness... Hell Danielson's maroon trunks are the same style that Regal used to wear in WCW. No wonder he reminds people or Regal.
Yeah, I know that. But I'm just talking about the way he just stands there.
Dark One
02-21-2010, 06:40 PM
He looks bad-ass in a suit. I know he trained under him, and respects the fuck out of the man -- but there is something William Regal-ish in the aura Daniel Bryan has. I'm marking out for him in those photos. I just wish that he had his longer hair.
Odds on Miz using the photos to back up the accountant line?
Vastardikai
02-21-2010, 10:29 PM
The Tie is fucking awesome.
Also, I think it's gonna be interesting to see how this goes. Can't say that about something 'E has come up with in years.
TrentDRUGFREE
02-22-2010, 02:26 AM
Not him?
http://i48.tinypic.com/vpdlab.jpg
Mr. Nerfect
02-22-2010, 04:49 AM
Daniel Bryan eventually beating the shit out of The Miz will be people's mark out moment of the year.
What Would Kevin Do?
02-23-2010, 05:41 PM
WWE NXT rookie Daniel Bryan (formerly Bryan Danielson) appeared on “The B.J. Shea Morning Experience” radio show on 99.9 KISW in Seattle this morning to discuss tonight’s WWE NXT debut. You can listen to the interview it’s entirety at KISW.com. Here’s what Bryan said about:
His Name Change: Well we have to accept the things that are handed down to us, but it is pretty close to my name, you know what I mean? I am comfortable with it and I think it is going to be good. Most people who watch WWE Universe have no idea who I am so they don’t know about what my name was before or anything like that.
To them I’m always going to be known as Daniel Bryan. I think that will be okay. It’s just that the WWE is an enormous corporation and it’s smart for them to have the rights of anybody they put on TV. It doesn’t matter if the person is successful; I’m successful and they own the rights and that helps them and their merchandising and that sort of thing. I don’t think it’s really a big deal; it’s a pretty standard thing.”
The Miz Calling Him Boring: “So the deal with The Miz is that that’s how he’s gotten by. He’s very charismatic, he’s gone out there, he’s really good at making people hate him. How I’ve gotten by is a little bit different. I’ve been doing this for over ten years now and what I’ve gotten by and how I made my name is by being excellent in the ring, but that doesn’t mean what he’s saying isn’t partially correct, you know what I mean?
“There is this huge aspect there where for me it’s always been what goes on in the ring. And with the WWE…that’s a big part of it, it’s presenting yourself as a superstar. And when he said I look like an accountant, I kinda do! I don’t watch television, I don’t e-mail. He was asking me, ‘What do you do with yourself?’ and I said, ‘Well, I read!’ (Miz responded) ‘What? Who reads?’ It’s just one of those things where there’s going to be a learning curb there because it’s completely different then anything I’ve every done.”
What Would Kevin Do?
02-23-2010, 05:42 PM
If Danielson does pick up the personality of a "superstar", and gets over with the crowd, I see good things coming. He's obviously got the company man part down. He's being humble, despite being an "indy sensation" and I think that'll take him far.
Jeritron
02-23-2010, 05:49 PM
Sounds like he "gets it."
I think things are going to work out for him, I really do. He can fill a niche that a guy like Benoit once did.
I think it's more likely that he'll see success like CM Punk, than it is that he gets "misused...", just from the sound of how high on him everyone within the company is, and his attitude.
Always good to see indy guys "get it" and realize how the industry works, rather than thinkk they're above everything like Paul London
Innovator
02-23-2010, 06:39 PM
He has Regal and HBK in his corner, so that helps
Fignuts
02-23-2010, 07:23 PM
lol "who reads?"
Love the miz.
Indifferent Clox
02-23-2010, 08:30 PM
so fucking stoked for nxt tonight
Fignuts
02-23-2010, 08:43 PM
FUCK
Forgot to DVR it. Gonna have to torrent that shit up tomorrow.
Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2010, 10:38 PM
I've actually avoided spoilers for WWE NXT, so I am pretty excited. I LOVE the theory behind this. If being paired with guys like Chris Jericho, CM Punk, Matt Hardy and R-Truth can't get you over -- then you're fucked. Plus, there is a level of commitment attached to these guys, who pretty much have to get four months of attention and development or so. Plus, there are some guys in there like William Regal, who may not be generally accepted by marks as the greatest ever, but can teach you how to get heat, and little things to up your game. That is exactly that something a hoss like Skip Sheffield could really use.
The Show Off
02-24-2010, 10:54 PM
Yeah, I know that. But I'm just talking about the way he just stands there.
I know you do. You can tell when Danielson was first learning he emulated Regal. He does so much like Regal some of it might not even be on purpose. His grinding submission style is a decision Danielson made when he started out, but along the way he probably just picked up the subtle demeanor.
It's like my friend who's in a band. He emulated Kurt Cobain. The way he sang was like Kurt Cobain and the type of music he played was like Nirvana or bands that Cobain loved. He emulated him so much that even the way he approaches a microphone is similar to Cobain.
I totally get what you meant. Danielson is like Regal with some of the theatrics of Shawn Michaels.
Mr. Nerfect
02-24-2010, 11:38 PM
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Danielson just sends off the same aura as Regal these days. It's probably not even conscious anymore.
parkmania
02-25-2010, 05:02 PM
The question is, are these guys REALLY being mentored, or just in kayfabe?
Ol Dirty Dastard
02-25-2010, 05:18 PM
They're prolly trying to work us a bit, with the Michael Cole B.S. etc. but who cares, it's fun.
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