I disagree. OU got screwed this year. They could be sitting with one loss ( Texas ) and talking about a National Championship game if they didnt get screwed like they did. OU is a great..not good .. great team. That was a huge win.

I agree with you 100%.

Yeah Mark Sanchez is a top QB recruit who probably could have won the starting job but he ran into a little sexual harrasment case (it was dropped but he def gave some bitch a dirty Sanchez) during spring ball

Lloyd Carr cannot coach in big games. I know in true TPWW fashion, the magnitude of the situation flat out doesn't matter and people perform the same in any platform so maybe I am wrong, but from what I've seen Carr can't win shit. He is garbage. Just a little something to throw out there though, how did Ohio State beating Michigan factor into Michigan not getting a chance to play them in the BCS game? Auburn and Florida could have very easily faced each other in the SEC Championship (after already playing each other earlier in the season) So I don't see why that factored into Michigan not getting a shot at the BCS title. That is kind of a mute point now, but just wanted to throw it out there.

Also, I want to see Boise State vs Ohio State. I want to see Winconsin get a shot after beating SEC runner-up Arkansas. Fucking gay how they won't make a playoff system...why can't they play a few more games? Better yet cut out that game againest Eastern Middle Southern Tennessee State College of Memphis so then you probably wouldn't have to add many. Another thing, I don't see how you could not be hyped up about Boise State playing Oklahoma (a team with really one loss) - if you weren't, do you get hyped for anything in relation to college football?

I can honestly say that Boise State/OU was one of the most exciting sporting events I have ever watched.

I don't get how you couldn't be looking foward to that game though, its not like a few years ago where Utah played Pitt who barely crawled into a BCS game.

Boise State also ran the greatest play I've ever seen to win it, I really thought the Statue of Liberty was the sickest shit ever - then they run a variation of it with a behind the back hand off. Come on

I was looking forward to it. I am an OU fan. I think people were looking over Boise State big time (I know I was).

Boise State - appearancewise, not gameplay - did not have the look of a big conference school, but they had a look of the spoiler. They came out and just looked cool, almost like the new wave vs. the old tradition. I am really pissed I didn't watch more of it, and even more pissed that I could have seen the ending but my friends made me watch MTV reruns.

It will be on ESPN Classic this weekend (when they do the Instant Classics thing).

Wake Forest vs Louisville, now theres a game I am not looking foward to.

And for good reason, 3-0 borefest thus far

So tomorrows game is Russel a top qb for the draft too? If so are we seeing the top 2 for the draft in Quinn/Russell? I'll watch it jus for that.

I was about to go to sleep, but I said, heck I guess I'll finish watching OU/Boise. SMART CHOICE

God, the Wisconsin thing pisses me off too. Wisconsin has a great team. They can play with just about anyone in the country if given the chance, but because conferences are only aloud to have two teams in the BCS, Wisconsin got screwed. Again, thats just not fair. Its rediculous. When they do finally get a playoff system in place, we'll probably look back at all this BCS crap and say it didnt mean a damn thing, because basically it doesnt. OSU or Florida wont be playing the teams that can possibly beat them. Its just rediculous.

Those plays Boise St ran were amazing because of how well they were executed perfectly. If that team has enough poise and talent to execute those plays in the most crucial moments against a top notch football team, they can beat OSU. I dont care who OSU has. I dont care who Florida has. The argument isnt " They will beat OSU or Florida " its " They can beat OSU and Florida " and for that sake, there should be a playoff.

OK...I started making a post asking which playoff method you think would make the most sense for the NCAA to adopt. I went on to re-explain the method I think makes the most sense, and then showed how some other methods would have worked out.

What I have below is my method, and then the two most likely scenarios (or the two that the average fan would probably assume would work the best). What I found by doing this kind of shocked me, and I am surprised that no pro-bowl analyst out there has mentioned it. Had there been an eight team playoff this season with six BCS conference champions and two wildcards, the playoffs would not have included Michigan or LSU. Anyway, take a look at how these would have worked out. What I found out was that if the BCS didn't make a fifth game this year, they would have been fucked, and that to have a fair playoff system, there would have to be 16 teams.

My method: 11 conference champions, 5 wildcards, AP rankings
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
16. Troy (Sun Belt)

8. USC (Pac-10)
9. Boise State (WAC)

4. LSU (Wildcard)
13. BYU (Mountain West)

5. Louisville (Big East)
12. Wake Forest (ACC)

3. Michigan (Wildcard)
14. Houston (C-USA)

6. Wisconsin (Wildcard)
11. Notre Dame (Wildcard)

7. Oklahoma (Big 12)
10. Auburn (Wildcard)

2. Florida (SEC)
15. Central Michigan (MAC)

*See, I think this is the most fair. All 10 teams that would normally make the BCS would qualify for this easily, barring a few conference champions being ranked real low, the top 10 teams in the polls would always make it, and it makes the smaller conferences actually have some significance. As you can see this year, there are really only three conference champions who are really bad, WAC and Mountain West could compete with the best of them.

Scenario 2: Six BCS conference champs, two wildcards, seeds based on BCS
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
8. Wake Forest (ACC)

4. Louisville (Big East)
5. Oklahoma (Big 12)

3. USC (Pac-10)
6. Boise State (Small conference clause)

2. Florida (SEC)
7. Notre Dame (Independent clause)

* As you can see, this method would FUCK THINGS UP a whole hell of a lot more than they are now. Yeah, so Boise State gets in, but because of Notre Dame and Boise States clauses, the No. 3 and No. 4 teams in the nation would not be included. Looking at this just makes me cringe at the controversy that would be caused if it was in place, and realistically, this is probably the method that most people would assume they use.

Scenario 3: Top 8 ranked teams (BCS rankings)
1. Ohio State
8. Boise State

4. LSU
5. USC

3. Michigan
6. Louisville

2. Florida
7. Wisconsin

* Much better than the one above it, but still, kind of takes away the whole point of winning your conference, which makes it almost completely objective.

LSU 34 ND 21

Be back, drunk, after the game, bitches..

I gave ND too much credit in the Chocolate Thunderdome..

Horrible reffing..

Mad long game..

Here's a question. I havent done any research about this, but has Charlie Weis ever won a big game for ND? Dare i say... Lloyd Carr jr.

If I was Notre Dame right now, I would just be happy to be back in the BCS. Yeah, this was a prime Notre Dame team, but they clearly didn't have the talent level of the teams they lost to. They'll win 9+ games next year and then be back on track with Jimmy Klausen.

LOL notre dame has no business being in the BCS they're horrible and havent beat anyone this year. GO BCS WOOOOOOOOOO

While I think Lloyd Carr has had a lot better talent on D, I am starting to agree here. I mean ND looked good going into halftime, then from what I hear they looked like shit in the 2nd half (I fell asleep during halftime, fuck this working full time shit haha)

Whoaaaaaaaaaaaa hold the fuck up

Lloyd Carr won a National Championship. I hate Michigan as much as anyone but that's retarded.

FIRE HIS ASS

Florida 31 Ohio State 28

SEC>*

Yeah that's true, but if he goes 0fer with Michael Hart and Chad Henne in Bowl games/vs Ohio State then sometimes you have to start to wonder.

Originally I was thinking OSU had no shot at being beat, then I started drinking the Kool Aid about how fast and good UF is but now that I think about it I dunno. I think OSU probably is pretty sick of hearing about all the "speed" that UF has and how they can't match up with it. I guess people forget that Ohio State has probably the best trio of wideouts in the Nation playing for them/Ted Ginn Jr, probably one of the fastest dudes in all of college football.

Usually I am rooting againest Ohio State but tonight I dunno, kinda sick of hearing about Florida and their speed and how nobody in the World can match up with it - Auburn looked alright with it, so did South Carolina. Hopefully Tim Tebow gets fucking rocked too, so sick of hearing about that homeschooled faggot.

Yeah but he is nowhere near Charlie Weis in terms of packing it in for the big games. If you win a National Championship ever then you should get amnesty for at least a decade. And the thing about Carr and Ohio State is yeah he's lost a lot but to a team that's been in the top 5 in the final rankings 4 out of the last 5 years and won 1, possibly 2 national championships. Michigan has been a great program but Ohio State has been better.

It's like saying Lou Gehrig sucked because he's not Babe Ruth.

Well Michigan gets all kinds of top talent but when is the last time they beat a team with a similar talent level in a big game? I guess I am kind of on the fence when it comes to Lloyd Carr and how good he really is.

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photo...img9915896.jpgPretty sick pic from CBSSportsline

Good Start

Florida's offense and defense looking good to open the game, can't say the same for kick coverage.

Wow 21-7 Flordia beginning of the 2nd quarter

Glad Ohio State is starting to show some live, not really rooting for either team just want to see a good game.

This game is terrible.

Troy Smith looks worse then Brady Quinn at the sugar bowl.

SEC>any non-SEC QB

DOMINATION

42-14

10:20 left

SEC

Yeah SEC is definetly the best but lets not get crazy, Tennesse did lose to Penn State like a week and a half ago haha

Florida came out ready to play though, really can't play any better game then this. Ohio State came out like shit too, even with the kick return they still just looked flat the entire game. Doesn't help when the defensive ends are man handling your TEs/OTs too

Kinda retarded though, this game sucks.

Man fuck Ohio State and Florida


Boise State owns
COMPTON!

Huge letdown :-\

Way to go Boise State on being the only undefeated team

AWESOME

What? This is only UF's second national title? I figured they'd have more then that.

If Boise St. isnt atleast # 2 ( and i say this believing that they should have a chance to be #1 via another game ) I'll be pissed and probably wont watch College Football again until theirs a playoff system put in. I didnt even follow it as closely this year as i have in the past because of this bull shit.

It's also the first time a school held the National Championship in basketball and football at the same time..

Weird..

I was thinking that happened recently, but I'm thinking of UConn men's and women's team both winning the baskeball national championship at the sametime. Another school just did that too actaully, or came close or something.

Boise St is ranked #5 and # 6 in the polls ( funny how theirs 2 polls. So fuked up ). LSU gets credit for beating a team that should not even of been there and they jump to #4. THESE TEAMS HAD 2 LOSSES FOR FUCK SAKES! I'm done with college football. Enjoy debating about a corupt sport. Lata fellas.

Boise State > YOUR SOUL

I'm not saying Boise State would beat Florida, or OSU for that matter though if that game was played against last nights OSU, Boise St would blow them out. I'm saying, all things aside, if you told me Boise St would be undefeated and beat a powerhouse team like OU in a BCS bowl game, i'd ask you when are they playing for the title. I dont need to know who they played during the season. All i need to know is that Boise St beat OU in front of millions of people watching, in one of the most storied bowl games, in a game that meant EVERYTHING to them. And you're telling me Boise St couldnt beat OSU or Florida when everything is on the line? Or that they dont even deserve the chance? Thats a joke.

Well Boise State beat Oregon State who beat USC if you really wanna get into it. Boise State beat a lot of good teams, granted they didn't run the table in like the SEC or something but nobody else did either.

Mustain is becoming a joke, now he might be following his high school coach to Tulsa. I could see wanting out of Arkansas since Nutt probably lied to him about the offense, but Tulsa? lol give me a break

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9934824

Lol, doesn't Arkansas already have a better QB anyway?

Nah they where about even last year I'd say...but Mustain has way more upside then Casey Dick

Yeah. As long as McFadden is back next year I think they will be fine.

It's too bad that for such a big season for Arkansas, it has to be tarnished by shit like this.

Mustain is registered for spring classes at Arkansas I guess..

What the fuck is going on? I keep hearing a lot about his mom too, I bet he has one of those crazy moms who is all up in their kids business

I love Boise States field...hawt. I'm a V Tech boy.

ITS DIVISION ONE FOOTBALL

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