TPWW Forums - MMA Thread

TPWW Forums (https://www.tpwwforums.com/index.php)

- mma forum (https://www.tpwwforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=24)

- - MMA Thread (https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=65900)

Heavyweight. Arlovski ain't making 205 and UFC doesn't want Cro Cop there.

Obv Cro Cop doesn't want to be in the heavyweight division cause by the looks of it, he hasn't been able to hang in there..

He actually does. He has publicly said he doesn't want to cut weight to 205lbs.

I don't think Arlovski has 40 lbs to cut, dude is pretty ripped at 240-245

Even if he did try to cut, he'd be exhuasted from it

How big is Cro Cop right now??

Cause he fought mostly at "middleweight" (which is lightheavy weight) in Pride, no??

He fought at heavyweight in Pride. He walks at about 230lbs.

I had no idea the January 19th show was a PPV... I thought it was a spike show.

I hope Gonzaga fucks shit up. I still think hes awsome.

Aren't usually ppv's in England free here? Is the 19th overthere?

Yeah that was my thinking, but I saw a TV add for it, and it's on there website as being a PPV for us Americans.

I really hate these overseas shows.

I don't mind em as long as we get em free. If not i'll just wait till the Silva/Henderson bout.

For everyone in Britain, Setanta Sports signed a deal to exclusive coverage of UFC. Low down is from July, we'll get the U.S shows live :D

Won't it be like 4AM when they'd come on though??

Shamrock vs. Shamrock for next year they've announced. 1st round knockout for Frank...unless they pre plan it to which Ken takes him down a few, makes it close, and takes it to the 3rd round when Frank finally lays him out.

you think they would work it?

Jorge Rivera just KOed Kendall Grove...took him down and landed some bombs

New Lightweight Champion, BJ Penn by rear naked choke in the 2nd

Joe got cut BAD, like Eddie at Judgement Day 2004 bad in the 1st round

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2007054)

For everyone in Britain, Setanta Sports signed a deal to exclusive coverage of UFC. Low down is from July, we'll get the U.S shows live :D

Was gonna come and post this. 'Tis good news since I have Setanta. About time I saw what the fuss was about.

lots of good action in this ppv. Every match was very entertaining.

Place went fucking insane live for BJ Penn for some reason. I have no idea why. Maybe just because he is pushed as a star but his reaction was pretty damn close to Bisping's in Manchester. Everyone was chanting "Cheat!" at Sean Sherk too. :D

Good time at this show though. Newcastle is a fucking great town too. I think it's my favourite now. More PPV's in Newcastle please. Fuck the rest of Britain.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...5500&zoneid=13

Sherk and penn confirmed for May, and Werdum is now somehow in line for the title if Randy doesnt come back.

CroCop doesnt know what he wants to do so now theyre saying Andrei is going to fight Jake O'Brian at the March 1st ppv.

Also Ortiz is slated to fight Manchida in may as well.

Andrei's fight with Jake Obrien probably will be on the undercard and not shown on TV

That is bullshit..

I would love to see Andrei back to his old form..

Ortiz is saying the Machida fight will be his last in the UFC.

We'll see. Unless he retires, I can't see it.

Sucks, I'd like to see Tito against the new batch of light heavyweights

Houston Alexander!! haha

-Tito/Jardine
-Tito/Bisping
-Tito/Hamill
-Tito/Silva
-Tito/Shogun

All could work

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2011853)

That is bullshit..

I would love to see Andrei back to his old form..

Amen brother. UFC is mad at him because he wont resign his contract. They think hes going to fight his last fight and leave. Theyre betting on Obrien having another win like his one against heath herring where he took him down and layed on him for 15 minutes. They think that he can take andrei down and lay on him. They want him to have a nother boring fight and hopefully a loss at that so that the fans will be pissed and he wont be a draw in another organization. However they dont know that andrei has been working on his wrestling for over a year now and hes been picking it up really quickly. Not to mention hes got a real good gaurd. Im decent at it especially since ive been wrestling for 10 years and he can sweep and pull off submissions on the ground on me. So I think Zuffa is going to be pulling their hair out when andrei finishes him. I just hope he does because no matter how dominate he is, if it goes to a decision, hes going to lose.

Quote:

Another UFC champion is speaking out against the promotion he once called home.

In an interview on Sirius’ Fight Network Radio on Monday, a disgruntled Tito Ortiz cited money as a primary point of contention with Zuffa LLC, the Las Vegas-based company that purchased the mixed martial arts’ brand in early 2001 and turned it into a $200 million-plus industry over the next five years.

“They don’t want the fighters to get as big as a 'Tyson' or a 'De La Hoya' or one of those types because all of a sudden, they’ll be expecting to see a lot more payment,” said Ortiz. “The UFC makes about 99 percent of the money, and the rest goes to the fighters. That one percent ain't nothing compared to what they make on merchandising, on pay-per-view, and everything else they make around the world.”

Ortiz is not the only marquee fighter to take Zuffa to task. UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture resigned from the organization on Oct. 11, citing compensation and poor treatment within the company as his main motivations. Couture walked away from his title, two contracted fights and a separate employment contract for commentating and promotional duties. Zuffa filed suit with Couture last Monday for breach of his employment contract.

A polarizing former UFC light heavyweight champion, Ortiz confirmed he will face Lyoto Machida (12-0) at a UFC event on Saturday, May 24 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. The bout will satisfy the final fight of his UFC contract.

Expecting a rematch with “The Ultimate Fighter 2” winner Rashad Evans, Ortiz (15-5-1) said he begrudgingly accepted the bout with the Japanese-Brazilian fighter who toppled PRIDE sensation Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou with a second-round submission at UFC 79 “Nemesis” on Dec. 29 in Las Vegas.

“I was expecting a bigger fight. I think the fans were expecting a bigger fight,” said Ortiz. “I got pressed into it, and all of a sudden, it’s all over the Internet that Tito Ortiz won’t fight Machida. I’m just looking to get my final fight over with the UFC.”

Ortiz has headlined 17 of his 20 UFC appearances since he stepped into the Octagon at UFC 13 “Ultimate Force” in May 1997. Energetic and captivating, Ortiz became the UFC’s light heavyweight champion after his vicotry against future PRIDE Fighting Championships star Wanderlei Silva at UFC 25 in April 2004. A poster boy for the promotion, he lost the title to Chuck Liddell (21-5) via a second-round TKO at UFC 47 four years later.

Ortiz’s rematch against Liddell at UFC 66 in December 2006 remains the largest UFC pay-per-view to date, with a reported 1,000,050 buys. The event also holds the North American record for paid attendance, with 12,191 fans shelling out $5,397,300 to see the former friends rumble. The 33-year-old said he’s banked over $ 1 million per fight in his latest outings, but that half those wages go to taxes and training expenses.

Money has always been at the root of a rocky relationship with Zuffa officials. In 2003, Ortiz held out on a pay raise from the Las Vegas promotion in favor of a supporting movie role in a sequel to “The Crow." Ortiz eventually returned to the fold, but the relationship remained strained.

Ortiz’s troubles with the promotion have become public fodder, particularly with his former manager turned UFC president Dana White, who has belittled the fighter and his girlfriend, Jenna Jameson -- the world’s most recognizable porn star -- in numerous interviews.

The clash between promoter and fighter came to a head last fall, when Spike TV aired a special documenting a regulated boxing session the two were to have had in a Las Vegas gym. Ortiz said he pulled out of the bout ahead of time, claiming compensation for the publicity stunt was never agreed upon. The cameras rolled with White waiting at the scales.

Nearing the end of his contract last year, Ortiz opted to go back to the table with UFC majority owner Lorenzo Fertitta. Subsequent negotiations stalled.

“They said I wasn’t worth the money,” said Ortiz. “I was worth no more than what I’m getting paid now, and I’m not a commodity to them anymore. I’m not as viable to them anymore. That was a sign of disrespect.”

Ortiz also believes White's ill feelings towards him will most likely prevent the fighter from getting a shot at the UFC title again.

"With Dana in charge, I don't think that fight will ever happen for me," said Ortiz. "Dana has bad blood for me and nothing but bad blood. They're going to try and ruin me."

Often at the center of controversy in the sport, bleached-blonde wrestler Ortiz, 33, has managed to stay in the spotlight despite his inactivity. After his heated July 7 draw with “The Ultimate Fighter 3” reality TV series winner Rashad Evans (11-0-1) at UFC 73 “Stacked” in Sacramento, Ortiz (15-5-1) landed a stint on NBC’s “The Celebrity Apprentice,” alongside KISS frontman Gene Simmons and actor Stephen Baldwin. The show is now in its third week, with Ortiz donating his earnings to the St. Jude’s Children's Hospital.

“UFC is caring so much about the brand itself,” said Ortiz. “They could care less about the fighters. Fighters are a dime a dozen. They’ll keep coming. Dana is really out for himself and the company. He doesn’t give a s--t about the fighters.”

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlaxInno Burress (Post 2012898)

-Tito/Jardine
-Tito/Bisping
-Tito/Hamill
-Tito/Silva
-Tito/Shogun

All could work

Tito won't fight Hamill. He has already beaten Silva but would probably take that fight now. Bisping is a middleweight now and Tito asked at least twice to fight Shogun and they didn't book it. At least once was before Shogun lost to Griffin.

And he'd fucking kill Houston Alexander. He has no takedown defense. Rush and double leg, ground and pound and fight over.

Tito is done anyway. Too one dementional. and is unwilling to change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2013147)

Yeah thats why I didn't say it.

It's a shame, I'll miss Tito's smack-talking.

I think he'll be back. Maybe after a spell as a failed actor but he'll be back.

haha you know hes going to end up in porn before its all said and done

I would have liked to see Tito/Dan Henderson..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2013645)

I would have liked to see Tito/Dan Henderson..

i thnk that would have a been a good fight a few years back and while i still think it would draw big numbers, i think henderson is still in his prime and tito is on the decline.

Oh, Dan would def murder him, just saying, I like to see Tito get murdered..

In that case I completely agree. In fact, i think that Tito is deserveing of a title shot so he can head to head with rampage.

I think he said he didn't want to fight Rampage..

Fight Night at 9, Swick vs. Burkman

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlaxInno Burress (Post 2013983)

Fight Night at 9, Swick vs. Burkman

I wish I had known this was tonight..

Gonna watch the mainevent though..

Who else fought??

LOL there's a fight in the audience during a Sly Stallone interview..

LOL

Patrick Cote yelled "FUCK YOU" into the camera after that KO..

Krispy still cracks up when he hears swear words

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2013981)

I think he said he didn't want to fight Rampage..

He said he'd only fight for huge money which Rampage agreed.

Swick didnt look very impressive

Who won the main event??

I switched channels to the local news after the end of the third and when I switched back it was already on Pros Vs Joes..

O_o

Yeah that main event was lackluster at best..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2013981)

I think he said he didn't want to fight Rampage..

Gee I wonder why ....

He is a huge vagina..

Did anyone see this Bantom Weight Title fight between Rani Yahya Vs. Chase Beebe on WEC Wreakage??

F'n awesome fight..

No WEC in England. This sucks.

I'm 99% going to Vegas for the May show. Finally will get to see Tito Ortiz fighting inside the Octagon. Already saw him fight once but that wasn't exactly legal and he got in a bit of bother :shifty:

It was a BJJ/wrestling clinic..

Cool shiet.

Anyone know anything about Nick Diaz returning to the cage? I wana see him fight again.

why do they want brock to headline 85 if he hasnt even had his first fight yet? goes to show how much faith they have in mir.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lone Wolf (Post 2020137)

why do they want brock to headline 85 if he hasnt even had his first fight yet? goes to show how much faith they have in mir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5XLkqQwIT2k

Kim was fed to Lesnar for an easy win. Lesnar has not had a match in the ufc against top competition to prove he should be in the main event.

He's still had a fight though, that's all I was sayng. As for the main event thing, Lesnar is currently one of the top stars the UFC has, and he hasn't even debuted yet. People will buy this JUST to see him fight. This is about marketing and buy rates, not dues.

To put it simply, if he gets laid out in his first fight they wil never lke have a chance to make money off him again, it's now or never.

Not to mention, ITS THE FIGHT THE MAJORITY IS THE MOST INTERESTED IN ON THAT CARD. If that doesn't make you main event material what does.

i hope brock dominates most of the fight and mir gets him in a tricky sub.... at least that way its not a bad loss for brock and mir is back in the picture

If Brock loses, he lost to a former UFC champion. Not some bum. If he wins, sky is the limit.

if he gets dominated tho it will look bad.... if he gets caught in a sub he still could do whatever he wants

His nickname HAS to be the Next big thing..it could fit him well in UFC too.

And if he busts Mir wide open he HAS to smear his blood on his chest, ala Hogan.

The Judge would work well for Lesnar

It doesn't matter. He is already a star, why waste millions on an easy fight?

No easy fight my friend. read what Destor said up top.

Some UFC guys are gonna be on some "Fight Science" show on National Geographic tonight..

FYI

It was Couture, Tito, Dean Lister, and the greatest fighter of all time "El Guapo" Bas Rutten (and some guy who played sparing parter/punching bag who I didn't know).. It was f'n sweet.. They tested how hard they hit, slammed, choked, etc.. They also went on and on about how "UFC" (they kept naming it) had taken so many steps to making fighting safe.. It was a good show for the sport, too bad prolly not alot of people saw it..

I wish Bill O'Reilly saw it..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2022462)

I wish Bill O'Reilly saw it..

It wouldn't register in his little pea brain.

he would have bitched about how the dummy wasnt treated fairly

The closer it gets, the more convinced I am that Lesnar is gonna kill this fucker. But I also have an image of Mir knocking him out. Hardest fight to call in a long time purely because of Lesnar's inexperience.

Lesnar will be able to take him down, even Mir said it on the Countdown to UFC 81 thing that was on last night.. Mir seems to think that his Jujitsu will get him the win even on the ground, but I think Lesnar will be able to overpower Mir and pretty much do whatever he wants to him the entire fight..

Also Nog>Sylvia..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2027409)

Everytime Tim Sylvia wins a fight, a kitten dies

Sylvia has no game with the ladies.

He has fucked women wearing the UFC heavyweight title. I have no problem with this.

I think Lesnar will beat the living shit out of Mirs face and end this fight in about 55 seconds.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2020500)

i hope brock dominates most of the fight and mir gets him in a tricky sub.... at least that way its not a bad loss for brock and mir is back in the picture

i am all man

Fair play on the call but you gotta admit that Mir should be blowing Steve Mazzagatti for saving his life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 2030261)

I think Lesnar will beat the living shit out of Mirs face and end this fight in about 55 seconds.

ROFL good call jackass.

you were close except for the textbook kneebar. Was choreographed and everything

Good call Reav..

Lesnar looked really good but got way too over confident.. If he had slowed it down he would have won I think..

WTF Lesnar is married to Sable??

Who won Nog Vs Big Slow??

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2030552)

Fair play on the call but you gotta admit that Mir should be blowing Steve Mazzagatti for saving his life.

haha didnt i say brock would dominate him???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2030859)

WTF Lesnar is married to Sable??

Who won Nog Vs Big Slow??

in typical nog fasion... he got beat the fuck out of and pulled a submission

Yea Brock shoulda got a warning instead of a point deductoon right away. Pretty funny how a bunch of WWE guys were there..they shoulda done a run in when Brock was in the leglock.

Brock will be heavyweight Champion within 2 years

Can Big John come back to reffing? Just main events

Also, David Heath getting slammed on his head from the Thai Clinch by a complete Unknown = LOL.

he threw him with an underhook not a thai clinch

Now that I look at it, yeah it was more of a hip toss than a thai clinch.

but still, how did Heath land on his HEAD from that position?

he was clearly out cold on his feet and his body was just following its muscle memory by basing back up after he hit the ground. I mean the guy just let himself get nailed with knee after knee to the head right before that.

Lesner looked good but got caught.

Welp I called it again... ok I was told by him... but its official on ufc.com now for you guys to check it out... andrei is on the undercard

jesus christ Shogun/Iceman for june kjcxhcjchejc!!kel