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Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2016 01:01 AM

That's exactly the same sort of imagery that comes to my mind too. :lol:

BigCrippyZ 11-03-2016 02:06 AM

Holy shit. Did that actually make it on the show?

:?::nono::wtf::wavesad::lol:

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-03-2016 02:11 AM

Yes the same with StupidIdiotVille in the Road to Money in the Bank.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-03-2016 02:11 AM

Jericho saved that stupid joke by saying that he's from Winnipeg. No saving us from terrible this time.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-03-2016 02:17 AM

Seems like Roman was made to look like a fool with all the people dressed up as Team Jeri KO.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-03-2016 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4882730)
Trying to imagine a writer sitting there and writing the line "you know, I was going to dress up for Halloween as a stupid idiot, but they were all out of Chris Jericho costumes" and thinking it is the best ever. Like imagining him being "super happy" with that line.....

Then forgetting how Foley would dress for the segment...

Cool King 11-03-2016 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4882711)
So Kevin Owens and Chris Jericho are actually scripted. Interesting.

Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-03-2016 07:15 AM

Virtually everyone is scripted though, just some pull it off better than others.

Mercenary 11-03-2016 07:38 AM

I got to be honest haven't watched any wrestling bedsides Hell in a Cell this past week. Something about the ppv just took all winds out of my sails in caring

Big Vic 11-03-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4882780)

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.

He could still write his own part.

Lock Jaw 11-03-2016 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 4882787)
Virtually everyone is scripted though, just some pull it off better than others.

Yeah, Jericho still amazing.....

Big Vic 11-03-2016 10:35 AM

Yeah Jericho got over with his scripted lines..... unlike Christian.

Emperor Smeat 11-03-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4882780)
Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.

Could be like New Day or Enzo where they pretty much write their own stuff and hand it in for some editing and tweaking.

Think a script from a recent time The Rock was on RAW had just him, Cena, and Heyman with bullet points or improv allowed for their promos.

Mr. Nerfect 11-03-2016 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4882780)
Yet the majority of the IWC gush over Owens and "his great promos".

We now find out that his material isn't even his own.

Well, yeah. Credit to Owens and Jericho for making it sound like their own work, but they clearly just get more focus. The stuff they get is good compared to the stuff other guys are saddled with.

Lock Jaw 11-03-2016 10:50 PM

Also, even though there is a written script, we do not know how much input the rasslers/certain rasslers get into actually writing that script in the first place.

Mr. Nerfect 11-04-2016 04:24 AM

That's true. Seems like a waste of time for the writers to write down what those wrestlers are going to say if it's their promo though.

#BROKEN Hasney 11-04-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4883127)
That's true. Seems like a waste of time for the writers to write down what those wrestlers are going to say if it's their promo though.

I know CM Punk said that if the script was garbage he just told them to do a re-write to the point where Vince had to have a chat with him. I wonder how many of the guys there now care enough bar minor tweaks since Stone Cold and others have said that guys are afraid to speak up these days.

Ambrose said that he's never been happy with a promo he's done on the WWE main roster because the scripts suck, but he clearly does them anyway. I will say that he either has more freedom since the brand split or just better writers.

Mr. Nerfect 11-04-2016 06:01 PM

The problem with having all these writers, is that even if they have genuinely good ideas once in a blue moon, there are competing visions. Wrestling works best when there is some golden ideal that everything is building towards. Person A suggests that they run Kevin Owens vs. Brock Lesnar, for example, then Person B says "Yeah, but with Owens as the babyface," then person C says "Well, we need to get the title onto Brock," then person D says "Owens should drop it to Rollins then onto Brock," and suddenly this idea of two very different professional wrestlers that haven't lost finally clashing is completely out the window. It's not the same idea as the one Person A had.

And if you've got no long-term vision, and if you're not trying to have that vision because you are writing for what Vince wants to see week-to-week, how are you going to script the "characters" to have any vision? How are wrestlers, even if given freedom, supposed to sell their vision as performers to crowds without seeming like idiots when it all goes down the gurgler the next week?

It's a fundamental and philosophical problem the WWE has.

The CyNick 11-07-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4883299)
The problem with having all these writers, is that even if they have genuinely good ideas once in a blue moon, there are competing visions. Wrestling works best when there is some golden ideal that everything is building towards. Person A suggests that they run Kevin Owens vs. Brock Lesnar, for example, then Person B says "Yeah, but with Owens as the babyface," then person C says "Well, we need to get the title onto Brock," then person D says "Owens should drop it to Rollins then onto Brock," and suddenly this idea of two very different professional wrestlers that haven't lost finally clashing is completely out the window. It's not the same idea as the one Person A had.

And if you've got no long-term vision, and if you're not trying to have that vision because you are writing for what Vince wants to see week-to-week, how are you going to script the "characters" to have any vision? How are wrestlers, even if given freedom, supposed to sell their vision as performers to crowds without seeming like idiots when it all goes down the gurgler the next week?

It's a fundamental and philosophical problem the WWE has.

fortunately the WWE has one guy setting the vision and making final calls in everything. I don't know if you have heard of him Noid, but his name is Vincent Kennedy McMahon.


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