I fucking hate you for this sentence.

im gonna put that on t shirts and sell them in Poland

Easier still, when you consider that

I've enjoyed the series and would say episode 2 was probably up there. BUT completely neglecting boba fett for 2 eps straight was eyebrow raising.

Yeah, just a super weird way to structure a tv show.

Also I have been looking at too many "like a bantha" memes

Pumped for the finale tonight.

Baby face shine Boba Fett

Traitorous P'takh

Hahahahaha

I liked the finale but also didn't like it. Lots of action. Fun moments. But they didn't flesh out Boba enough (who'd have thunk that after neglecting him entirely for 2 episodes) nor did they really delve into any of the actual inner workings of Tatooine.

I'd give the season a b-minus based on the fact that I really did enjoy all of it. Just a lot of missed opportunities to really make something that had weight.

Obi wan takes place on tatooine so we got more time to spend there.

lookin forward to Obi-Wan.

Finally watched it.... was pretty cool.... but yeah, Boba Fett like the least cool/interesting part of the Boba Fett show. He didn't even kill all those people in the end, Fennec did. Would have been "cool" if he had "snapped" and "embraced" being a killer like Cad Bane said and ended up ruling with "fear" anyways.

it's unfortunate because when they gave Boba stuff to do, he was cool. But they decided he didn't matter that much.

Slow Burn. They gotta build him up so they can tear him down when he turns to madness and starts putting the sharpshooter on everyone.

chop em down


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In the last episode maybe? But for the most part I'd agree with the general consensus that he just came off as soft. Which is tragic, because I actually like the idea of Fett being taken in by tuskens and developing a more righteous cause to fight for. But you can do that without losing the ruthless efficiency that people wanted to see from him. That we got a glimpse of in the mandolorian.

The mod gang could have worked as well. They didn't have enough character to dislike them. The backlash has justifiably been their appearance. They're all too clean looking for tattooine. They would be great for a story on coruscant, but they stood out like sore thumbs on the dirty, grimey tattooine. I think if they were designed better no one would have ha a problem.

The Cad Bane fight was alright, but once again, cool star wars villain gets insta killed while having the advantage. Could have made that better. During the flashbacks with fett training with the tusken woman, have her pull that same move against fett. That way when fett does it against Bane it feels like more of a payoff. I would have also revealed that it was Bane specifically who the syndicate had kill the tuskens. Makes the payoff even bigger. Pay me, disney.

I think viewing him as soft is the cry of the virgin basement dweller, personally. His journey was finding a way to blend his new found sentimentality with the proficiency of his old self which happened in the final ep (and was constantly hinted at in his over reliance on the Barca tank). Where there was a failure was fleshing out the inner workings that established him as a Michael Corleone. All glanced over and suggested instead of showing his ability to strategize. When it came time to show the evolution, it was just an action-filled clusterfuck.

Anyways, shows are allowed to not be perfect and come up short and still be enjoyable for what they are.

And yeah the fact that they barely paid off the Tuskens was confounding and suggested to me the writing was hella rushed. Like they did 7 self contained episodes that they very quickly tried to tie together.

They ran into a typical Star Wars problem in that the stories they chose not to tell were the most interesting.

And the writers themselves seemed way more invested in Din and Grogu than they did Boba Fett.

No one asked for a sentimental Boba fett.

You get swallowed by a pit monster in the most humiliating fashion and try be your old self.

But your reaction is why this project was doomed from the beginning. Everyone has their own ideas of Boba Fett.

Getting humiliated changed his motivations and led to him condemning all the idiots he worked for. That part of the show was well done. But he shouldn't have to change who he is or how he accomplishes those goals.

And yes, basement dwelling virgins want every character to be an edgy badass all the time. That doesn't mean that fett shouldn't be.

No. That's just it. There are no varying theories on what Boba Fett should be, or who he is. Part of why he has become arguably the 2nd most popular character in star wars behind Darth Vader, is because everyone has been in agreement on what type of character fett is.

After almost 40 years, to not know how people see Boba fett and what they'd want from a show like this, is to be willfully ignorant.

Lol I have a group of friends who’ve been stanning Boba Fett as long as you and didn’t take issue with his “softness.” So it’s obviously not that universal.

Pretty sure the backlash this show is facing outnumbers your "group of friends".

Also, not sure what the point was in having fett walk around without his helmet so much, when temura showed the emotional range of canned soup.

Never really seen the appeal of Boba Fett and definitely no appeal in him as an old man. Everything about Mando is 100x more interesting than Boba Fett and this show just highlighted that. Awful first four episodes, very fun last three.

the finale was very good. im about to write a very critical post but over all i did enjoy the show and the finale felt like star wars and thats something the recent trilogy and mando havent done very well (mando is great but it feels like a western not star wars and that plays to its advantage in many ways but thats another convo all together.)

boba has dozens of issues.

the first is the mandolorian. amazing show. they gave us the boba fett show we always wanted...and then after giving is the boba fett show we always wanted...they gave us a boba fett show...k...?

sounds fine on paper i suppose but mando is and does everything we want from boba. so now we have to differentiate boba from his derivative but the derivative is more popular and more established now so the derivative lays claim to all the traits that make boba fett boba fett.

so...fuck. ok. lets write a rebirth angle and allow boba fett to become a new version of himself. thats the ticket...except now boba isn boba..mando is boba...so why make a boba show at all? we like green better than silver?

so now we exist in this bizarre paradox probably forever. i dunno.

also regarding mando



im on board but these are issues that are on my mind.

oh and those 1950s space mopeds are gay af.

also boba comes off as impotent and nearly useless the entire show. thankfully he calls on the star of the other show to save him because thats a good way to establish why we should root for him...right?

oh and he spends the 1st 2 eps being a slave to the sand people who have never been a credible threat for even 30 seconds in 45 years. booking so good the show shouldve aired on a monday.

Cad was ace though. so cool.

oh and lol @ him not being in 2 eps of his own show

i had a good time watching it though its just weaker than it should be.

Finished The Book of Boba Fett. Easy enough to watch, but the show was pure fan service and no substance. They clearly either ran out of ideas to sustain 7 episodes or just got bored of Boba, as mentioned before, he disappeared for 2 episodes.

My interest only perked up once Mando reappeared in episodes 5, which was probably the best of the season.

Ultimately, it feels like a series that didn't need to be. It just made me want the third season of The Mandalorian instead. I don't have high hopes for the Ahsoka Tano series, either, which I fear will suffer the same lazy, poor writing and empty fan service of Boba.

I've never been a Boba Fett fan-boy, so perhaps that is the root of my feelings of apathy towards the series.

id wager youd be less pleased if you were a boba stan

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im here for it

Count me in

I'm excited. I think the grand inquisitor and the 5th brother look a bit goofy from thier animated counterparts (the 5th brother seems to be retconned into a human) but I'll wait and see before passing true judgment.

It's crazy to think that something that has been talked about for the last 10 years will be over and done with for good by July. It's bittersweet. If it was possible that I could lock myself into a social media free room for 6 weeks and binge this all at once, I would be ecstatic. Waiting week to week is going to suck, especially when we get that Vader cliffhanger.

I still like watching things week-to-week.

gross

Obi-Wan tomorrow!

Then there's this:

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Confirmed to have two seasons of 12 episodes, and the finale of the second season will lead straight into Rogue One. The prequel to the prequel set after the prequel Trilogy. I didn't care about this much, but looks like it could maybe be "cool".... looks "visually good" at the very least....

oh hell yes i am there for that

Watched the two Obi-Wan episodes.... as expected a bunch of "continuity plotholes" created but it is fun.... so much more lively than Book of Boba Fett.....

I didn't give any shits about Andor when it was announced but that trailer looks really cool.

Yeah continuity plotholes are a reality when your entire franchise is one retcon after another. But yeah, a fun couple of eps. Ewan McGregor is a delight.

I'm never one to complain about stakes because I enjoy low-stakes shows where we do a lot of character work and "hanging out." But the stakes for some reason feel WAY too low in Obi-Wan given the players involved. It's fucking Darth Vader trying to get revenge on the mofo that turned him into stumps and burnt flesh and I feel like I'm watching episodes of Rebels.

It's a fun show, no doubt. And I'll watch an hour of Ewan McGregor every week since he's the man. But even with the badass inquisitors and Obi/Leia on the run in constant fear, there's somehow a galling lack of intensity and emotion.

You're not wrong, but how do you create stakes when we know the main characters survive. Solo had the same problem.

Better Call Saul does it all the time.

And I hate that I used the term "stakes" because it's so overused and a hackneyed critique IMO. So many armchair experts who say, "BUT WHERE'S THE STAKES" and I can't help but roll my eyes because I'd argue too many shows have too many stakes, therefore eliminating all meaning in any of the said stakes. When all there are is stakes, there's nothing actually at stake.

Conversely, I love when shows take something that's seemingly meaningless and give it weight.

With Kenobi, they've decided it's Obi getting his groove back...which makes sense contextually. But they aren't putting him in interesting enough scenarios for it to work for me. Everything just feels slow, stilted, and unimaginative. And there's a distinct lack of grandeur.

Perhaps, he could've been more like Maximus in Gladiator after he lost everything.

Or, I'd have preferred if Obi-Wan flirted with full-on psychosis/madness instead of not wanting to fight. It would've made sense, especially considering in A New Hope, everyone thinks he's some crazy old hermit who lives out in the Dune Sea. Of course, by then, he's wise and sage. But it'd have been interesting if he earned the reputation for being a bit of a nutter.

Instead, we have a miniseries that's a lesser version of Mando and it's of the same quality as middling Feloni cartoon episodes. Sure, some Rebels, Clone Wars, and Bad Batch episodes are great, but they're more than willing to throw in clunkers. And there's no time for that in a miniseries.

I could deal with some of the missteps in Boba Fett because it was clearly a transitional show and the crimelord element had its plusses despite not fleshing out the way it should have. However, I figured they'd go guns-a-blazing with Kenobi and it's really quite blasé. It's disappointing that it's so sanitized given the backstory and even the non-movie canon (e.g., the Darth Vader comics) they can work with.

I saw the yellow triangle with the exclamation point in the thread title from the main page and I thought Kris P was back :(

Just watched the third episode and came here to say I enjoyed it a lot.

i had the exact same thought but overall fuck yeah to the whole episode

but i wrote a whole essay stating otherwise. Clearly I'm right because I wrote more. That's how it works.

the only stakes i care about are steaks covered in ketchup and mayo

splash a little worcestershire on there and you've basically got homemade A1 :cool:

right? yeah. right. that sounds right.

I'd eat it.

Can't sleep so watched the new episode.... hot stuff yet again.

Was better than the previous 3.

I want to like this cause Ewan as Obi-Wan rules, but there are a lot of really dumb moments that keep taking me out of it. Years of watching a zombie wizard wrestle in wwe has strengthened my sense of disbeleif but even im at my limit with some of these scenes.

Should just give all these star wars shows to Dave Filoni and Bryce Dallas Howard. Their episodes are always the best.

Yeah I agree Figgy. For once. You fucker. Show is fun and decent, but I feel it's underdelivered for the reasons you've brought forth and the fact that considering who's involved, every episode should be nothing short of very, very good (I won't even say excellent). And it's been a string of c-minuses to c-plusses IMO

Also uh, pretty sure the Grand Inquisitor isnt supposed to be dead.

Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....

I guarantee he's not dead. Which is annoying in and of itself.

I bet they'll do some kind of memory wipe...which again...annoying AF.

I was hoping Asajj Ventress would make an appearance, but I guess she died in some book.

Lame.

Almost as bad as Aura Singh being killed off in a line from Solo.

She died along with Quinlan in that book, who's been referenced as still being alive in Kenobi.

Did they say he was still alive? I thought they just said he had passed through the hideaway at some point.

Asajj was apparently killed by Dooku so shes gone either way.

Although it says she was laid to rest at Dathomir, and that place is super spooky, so maybe the witches there could use their hoodoo to bring her back.

Please?

Since Asaaj was killed in a book, I really wouldn't take that canon to the bank.

Thought I remember seeing that all books after the expanded universe was cancelled would be official canon.

Think that one in particular was just some unproduced Clone Wars episodes, so would be fairly "canon".....

But yeah, I mean Darth Maul literally got cut in half and survived so whatever

I just don't think they fear playing fast and loose with the books.

Leia is the one who sent R2 looking for Obi-Wan in Episode 4

I watched Leia's message to Obi-Wan last night, and there is arguably a BIT of wiggle room in what she says. You'd think she'd be like "Wurd, remember the time you saved me from the Inquisitors and all that shit?" but she also never says they've never met. More just reminding him how he helped her dad years ago, and she needs his help now.

It's a fuckin stretch, but I really hope they do something to amend it by the final episode.

Fuck that! They can just update the original.

Would be honestly "cool" to just say "F it" and remake the original, but include things and characters that just plain didn't exist in continuity before. Maybe adapt some of the Marvel Comics that have been expanding the story in between the movies because they have been pretty cool. Release "A New Hope" remake/update, then Disney+ series about the time in-between movies, then "Empire Strikes Back" remake/update... etc

Then after Return of the Jedi, just throw out the new trilogy and remake that too.

They literally did retcon this one old dude with a beard in Return of the Jedi into being Captain Rex:

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Re: Latest Obi-Wan episode

lol why didn’t Vader just walk around the fire? Or better yet, he just forced pushed to blow out the fire like 10 seconds earlier, but now he’s like “welp nothing to be done about this fire, I guess we’ll just let Obi Wan escape” After the first episode I had my hopes up that it would at least be decent, but nope this thing is an absolute turd sandwich.

He’s afraid of fire… and he doesn’t like sand…

I decided to watch this Obi Wan show and it’s alright to be honest.
I tried to like Star Wars but never could get into it, I do like Darth Vader though and there’s plenty of him so far.

I enjoyed his show of force in the last episode. Was nice to get a look at his skills.

There should be a Palpatine show done in the style of Saved By The Bell, they could name it “Palpa-Teen” and we could see how his adolescent acne outbreaks drove him to the dark side.

They could do a similar show about the origins of R2D2 and call it “Bot Meets World”.

I’m here if you’re hiring Disney.

Darth Maul should also have his own show.
That’s not a joke though.

Have you seen Disney’s slates for Star Wars and Marvel? These don’t seem that unlikely.

I'd be down for a Palpatine HTD

The intro theme would be “Last Resort” by Papa Roach

Robot Chicken Star Wars does a pretty good job at poking fun at it.


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You get your 7 foot 2 asthmatic ass back here or I'm gonna tell everyone what a whiney bitch you are about Padamame Panda Bear, or whatever the hell her name was!"


....


"Oh geez he's crying!!"




jesus, seen it before and it's still funny

I've watched it probably 20 times at this point.

Easily the best thing robot chicken has ever done.

Followed closely by Palpatine on the escalator.

"WHO'S THEY?!....What the hell is an aluminum falcon?"

Without looking at the credits for that episode..... did Seth McFarlane do some voices?


I can only hear the Emperor as Quagmire..... and that kinda makes it funnier for me.

The bit with the air conditioner made me laugh pretty hard.

If that isn’t Seth MacFarlane then it’s a stupendous impression.

It is Seth McFarland.

I think my enjoyment of the dark side has softened me to Star Wars as a franchise…

Obi Wan is a bit of a wank when it’s Ewan instead of Alec but that show is good stuff. Vader-wise it gives me everything I need. I just wish Palpatine was in it.

I also like The Mandalorian. That’s just classic Western stuff. #FreeGinaCarano