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Ol Dirty Dastard 09-10-2014 01:09 PM

Problem is, when you talk about all the "horrible" things she did, you take away from the fact Ray Rice cold cocked his fiancee. I've been spit on by a chick, I've been kicked in the head, punched in the face by a chick.... my immediate reaction was not to cold cock them. In fact tbh it wasn't all that bad because I outweighed them by like 100 pounds.

The sentence should go like this, Ray Rice is an asshole and deserves to rot in prison.

Not Ray Rice is an asshole and deserves to rot in prison BUT his girlfriend is a stupid head for hitting him. Come on man, get it through your head.

#1-norm-fan 09-10-2014 01:14 PM

Yeah. She probably burned dinner the night before, too. Just sayin'.

Droford 09-10-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4508460)
The difference with Roethlisberger though, is I don't believe any of those charges stuck? My memory is fuzzy on all that, I could be mistaken

He settled with the woman out of court for money.

Droford 09-10-2014 01:38 PM

http://fat.gfycat.com/DistinctHeartfeltHake.gif

road doggy dogg 09-10-2014 01:55 PM

http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/09/...aying-football

Emperor Smeat 09-10-2014 02:53 PM

Cards John Abraham out indefinitely and might even be considering retirement after getting a serious concussion during the Chargers game.

road doggy dogg 09-10-2014 03:04 PM

Doug Martin didn't practice today either, probably will sit out this week. I hope so since that scumbag Triple A has him and I'm going against him in D&D battles

Evil Vito 09-10-2014 06:33 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Less than 24 hours after Goodell went on national TV and explained that they asked law enforcement officials for the tape and never received it...the law enforcement official who was asked for the tape confirmed that it was sent to Goodell and the Ravens 3 months ago.

Goodell is done.</font>

Nark Order 09-10-2014 06:41 PM

NFL "investigating" the executive/s that received and watched the video. Looks like they are going to try to pin it on their employees instead of Goodell. Classy.

Emperor Smeat 09-10-2014 06:42 PM

According to ESPN'S Outside The Line report, Ray Rice spat on his wife at least once leading up to the incident in the elevator. Might explain why she was in a piss off mood and hit him prior to getting knocked out cold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
One former staffer said Rice, the former Baltimore Ravens running back, spat in his then-fiancée's face twice, "once outside the elevator and once inside," prompting her to retaliate with movements that were ultimately countered with a knockout punch.

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...sportscenterTW

Evil Vito 09-10-2014 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4509188)
NFL "investigating" the executive/s that received and watched the video. Looks like they are going to try to pin it on their employees instead of Goodell. Classy.

<font color=goldenrod>Yep. I think Goodell will wind up gone anyway though. I said it when the video first got out on Monday - anybody who had any part in the decision-making process has to go.

If this happened in nearly any other company in America, everybody on top would have been fired months ago.</font>

Innovator 09-10-2014 08:42 PM

I should send my resume to the NFL, just in case

road doggy dogg 09-10-2014 11:59 PM

I wonder if the next NFL commissioner will actually care about the concussion epidemic we're watching these current players live through.

Kris P Lettus 09-11-2014 01:05 AM

good guy Sean Payton

click

road doggy dogg 09-11-2014 01:09 AM

Always good to hear a positive story like that... sucks about Stills' daughter though, that is heartbreaking

Simple Fan 09-11-2014 12:47 PM

I dont agree with what Ray Rice did but also dont see what the big deal is here. Rays wife has forgive him for what he did and she is the victim, so why cant any one else. If a construction worker was to have done this would they be calling for his bosses job for letting him work. Goddel shouldnt be fired or resign for somthing one of his players did. 2 games for a misdameanor is good enough I think.

road doggy dogg 09-11-2014 12:49 PM

shut up

Nark Order 09-11-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4509637)
shut up


Evil Vito 09-11-2014 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4509637)
shut up


Innovator 09-11-2014 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4509635)
I dont agree with what Ray Rice did but also dont see what the big deal is here. Rays wife has forgive him for what he did and she is the victim, so why cant any one else. If a construction worker was to have done this would they be calling for his bosses job for letting him work. Goddel shouldnt be fired or resign for somthing one of his players did. 2 games for a misdameanor is good enough I think.

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4509637)
shut up


Emperor Smeat 09-11-2014 06:48 PM

More from ESPN's Outside the Lines report stated that Rice told Goodell everything that happened in the elevator and wasn't "ambiguous" or Rice hiding/lying about certain things.

Even if the NFL's claims of never seeing the full video were true, Rice told them the entire story.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN">@OTLonESPN</a> report contradicts Goodell's statement that after meeting w/ Rice, it was &quot;ambiguous&quot; what happened. <a href="http://t.co/e8xVwA1oFN">http://t.co/e8xVwA1oFN</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/510195450490920960">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 09-11-2014 06:52 PM

NFL fined Antonio Brown $8,200 for the Brogue Kick he gave to Cleveland's punter during last week's game.

Droford 09-11-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4509880)
More from ESPN's Outside the Lines report stated that Rice told Goodell everything that happened in the elevator and wasn't "ambiguous" or Rice hiding/lying about certain things.

Even if the NFL's claims of never seeing the full video were true, Rice told them the entire story.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>.<a href="https://twitter.com/OTLonESPN">@OTLonESPN</a> report contradicts Goodell's statement that after meeting w/ Rice, it was &quot;ambiguous&quot; what happened. <a href="http://t.co/e8xVwA1oFN">http://t.co/e8xVwA1oFN</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/510195450490920960">September 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This just pisses me off even more. I could see the reaction to the video on Monday if he had lied in any way about what happened, but if he owned up 100% to what happened in the meeting with them then there shouldn't have been anything "shocking" about what was on the video. I'm in the group who thinks his suspension is the result of the NFL trying to save face from the whole fiasco when they didnt levy a harsher penalty to begin with.

Droford 09-11-2014 07:17 PM

Ray Rice could sue the NFL

he'd have to have proof the NFL saw the video from inside the elevator before they levied the original 2 game suspension, since its against the collective bargaining agreement with the players association to penalize a player twice for the same issue.

Droford 09-11-2014 07:20 PM

I just want this game to start, and its still over an hour away..ugh

Droford 09-11-2014 08:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Phil Simms looks like Bob Backlund from the old school WWF <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nfl?src=hash">#nfl</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cbs?src=hash">#cbs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tnf?src=hash">#tnf</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ravens?src=hash">#ravens</a></p>&mdash; Matthew (@droford) <a href="https://twitter.com/droford/status/510220197190709248">September 12, 2014</a></blockquote>
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screech 09-11-2014 09:49 PM

If I wanted to read your tweets, I would follow you on Twitter. Why couldn't you just post that normally?

Droford 09-11-2014 10:20 PM

and we 're even on the BS penalties

OssMan 09-11-2014 10:25 PM

What the fuck are people talking about "receiving the tape" and it being "mailed" to somebody. It was a fucking iphone video

Droford 09-11-2014 10:28 PM

I'm pretty sure it was security camera footage that would have been recorded. I bet the term tape means disc though.

Droford 09-11-2014 10:31 PM

The Steelers probably should be concerned their offense has scored 9 points in the last 5 qtrs.

Ruien 09-11-2014 10:52 PM

Steelers are shit.

Nark Order 09-11-2014 11:01 PM

Steelers are very bad.

Droford 09-11-2014 11:17 PM

It can't be that the Ravens are good? Defense has allowed 7 FGS/1TD in 2 games. This Ravens team has enough offense to win games if the defense can keep that up.

Droford 09-11-2014 11:19 PM

and the Hay is in the barn!

screech 09-11-2014 11:26 PM

Hey the Ravens won :)

Ruien 09-11-2014 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4510118)
It can't be that the Ravens are good? Defense has allowed 7 FGS/1TD in 2 games. This Ravens team has enough offense to win games if the defense can keep that up.

They are a decent/good football team but the Steelers seems AWFUL.

Nark Order 09-11-2014 11:33 PM

Ravens defense is solid. Better than I thought they would be this uear. Steelers D is pretty shaky.

Nark Order 09-11-2014 11:35 PM

Getting Owen Daniels was a good pickup. Have always loved that guy.

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 07:11 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Regretting that Steelers 2nd wild card prediction.</font>

Clerk 09-12-2014 10:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-7jhExgppE

skip to 4m 38s too see NFL official

MrSmokeydogg7 09-12-2014 11:17 AM

My thoughts on Ray Rice Punching wife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0R8...Hzsf2LCKAlbrQA

screech 09-12-2014 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4510210)
<font color=goldenrod>Regretting that Steelers 2nd wild card prediction.</font>

It's Week 2

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 12:17 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I know. Doesn't change that they've looked very bad though, can't forget they very nearly choked away a huge lead at home to Cleveland.</font>

#1-norm-fan 09-12-2014 01:49 PM

Seems like every year in week 2 Dallas goes on the road to play a team that ends up making a "surprise" playoff appearance. With Tennessee being a trendy pick to make the playoffs even before last week, it got me thinking how oddly similar every week 2 game has felt lately.

Last year in week 2 it was @ Kansas City. 2-14 the year before, surprise playoff appearance.

The year before it was @ Seattle. 4 straight losing seasons, surprise playoff appearance with a rookie QB.

The year before it was @ San Francisco. Perennial NFC West basement dwellers, surprise playoff/NFC championship appearance.

And now @ Tennessee this year.

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 02:01 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Not totally sure how much of a surprise KC were. Like yeah obv they were horrible in 2012, but a lot of people penciled KC in for the playoffs last year simply because they had Charles, a good defense, a new coach (it's fun to make fun of Andy Reid but he has at least gotten teams to the playoffs a bunch of times) and most importantly one of the weakest looking schedules in NFL history.

Still not too sure how I feel about Tennessee. Can't decide if they played really well on Sunday or if KC just completely suck.</font>

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 02:05 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Another day, and things continue to look worse for Goodell. NFL has now given the reason for Rice's increased suspension, basically saying it's because he lied about what actually happened. This of course flies in the fact of the Outside the Lines report with multiple sources claiming Rice told Goodell exactly what happened, and the report from Ravens executives that what Rice told them was exactly what was on the video.

For us to believe this latest pile of bullshit, that would mean that the NFL based its first suspension not on the criminal report filed with police, which explained the events in detail, matching what was on the video, but instead they based it entirely on the testimony of Ray Rice.

There is literally nothing the NFL can do anymore that doesn't immediately contradict something else they said or make them look like complete and utter morons.

And on the new drug policy front, it's expected to get approved tonight, allowing Welker to play this weekend, somehow, nonsensically, Josh Gordon still has an 8 game suspension.</font>

road doggy dogg 09-12-2014 02:34 PM

What people are losing in all this is that the Ravens "fully backed and supported" Rice while hearing the same recanting of events from Rice himself that the NFL did, and only had issue with it when it became a PR disaster. Fuck the Ravens too

screech 09-12-2014 03:09 PM

The fact that no one, the league nor the team, got the whole story and just took Rice at his word bothers me. It seems that, if the report of Goodell being told the real story in June is true, no one from "the office" went to the Ravens with that information.

Like, are we to believe that Rice lied to the team so he could have their support, but told Goodell the truth?

screech 09-12-2014 03:09 PM

Had a longer post but it kept fucking up because mobile

Droford 09-12-2014 04:52 PM

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/26...ld-injury-case

Quote:

HOUSTON (FOX 26) - Sources told FOX 26 Sports Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson has been indicted in Montgomery County for reckless or negligent injury to a child.
Wonder what he did.

Nark Order 09-12-2014 06:18 PM

They should investigate the child to see what he did to provoke Adrian Peterson.

Droford 09-12-2014 07:16 PM

He <strike>disciplined</strike>beat his kid with a switch. Vikings have "deactivated" him.

Droford 09-12-2014 07:22 PM

now we get to have the "is it discipline or child abuse to beat your kid with a switch" debate and the inevitable "back in my day my parents whacked me on the behind with a 2x4 and I turned out great" thanks NFL

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-12-2014 07:23 PM

AP de-activated. Vikings going down now! Happy birthday to me!

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 07:39 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Peterson allegedly shoved leaves in his child's mouth and beat him with a switch several times, including hitting him in the scrotum with it. Fucking terrible, if true.</font>

Triple A 09-12-2014 07:44 PM

what is a "switch"

edit: like a tree branch thing i guess

Droford 09-12-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4510519)
AP de-activated. Vikings going down now! Happy birthday to me!

it'd be funny if the Vikings still beat the Pats without him.

Evil Vito 09-12-2014 07:46 PM

Quote:

Peterson also allegedly said via text message to the child’s mother that he “felt bad after the fact when I notice the switch was wrapping around hitting I (sic) thigh” and also acknowledged the injury to the child’s scrotum in a text message, saying, “Got him in nuts once I noticed. But I felt so bad, n I’m all tearing that butt up when needed! I start putting them in timeout. N save the whooping for needed memories!”

In further text messages, Peterson allegedly said, “Never do I go overboard! But all my kids will know, hey daddy has the biggie heart but don’t play no games when it comes to acting right.”
:nono:

Requiem 09-12-2014 07:52 PM

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/09/12/0...injuries-7.jpg

That's what he did. Guy deserves to get canned from the NFL. Just because that's how he was punished as a kid doesn't make it alright. Gotta rise above the abuse of the past generations and figure out a way to raise kids that doesn't involve senselessly beating them when they do wrong.

Emperor Smeat 09-12-2014 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem (Post 4510552)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/09/12/0...injuries-7.jpg

That's what he did. Guy deserves to get canned from the NFL. Just because that's how he was punished as a kid doesn't make it alright. Gotta rise above the abuse of the past generations and figure out a way to raise kids that doesn't involve senselessly beating them when they do wrong.

Stuff like that can be a really tough cycle to break but agree about him needing a big punishment. That's well beyond just normal discipline he did to his kid.

Nark Order 09-12-2014 08:27 PM

They shouldn't do anything to Adrian Peterson because he's on my fantasy team and that's not fair.

Crimson 09-12-2014 09:09 PM

Kids need an ass whoopin sometimes, nothing to see here.

Emperor Smeat 09-12-2014 10:12 PM

Ended up taking 2 grand juries to get an indictment possible.

Quote:

Local 2 Investigates has learned the case was taken to one grand jury and the panel decided to taken no action. The prosecutor recently took the case to a second grand jury which handed down the indictment.
http://www.click2houston.com/news/at...ounty/28035452

Evil Vito 09-14-2014 12:20 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Panthers deactivate Greg Hardy. Good. The owners can't say they are against domestic violence and still allow these guys to suit up. The teams need to police themselves for now because the league is incompetent.</font>

owenbrown 09-14-2014 03:23 PM

Dammit, Locker. TONY ROMO is supposed to be the one to throw interceptions NOT YOU!

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-14-2014 04:15 PM

RG Knee is now also RG Ankle.

Evil Vito 09-14-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4511107)
<font color=goldenrod>Eli played his best game since early 2012, and they still lost. Just terrible, terrible mistakes.

Home vs. Texans next week, road vs. Washington the week after. If they don't win both of those I can't see how they win more than 4 games this year.

May as well just pull this from the casual thread.

Destor 09-14-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4511112)
RG Knee is now also RG Ankle.

RG Michael Vick 2

Droford 09-14-2014 07:37 PM

one of the things that should be discussed all week is how bad the Broncos offense has been in the 2nd half. only 3 pts today after 7 last week, nearly giving away the game again.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-14-2014 08:37 PM

SORRY ASS RECEIVER!

Crabtree gets first TD in the new arena on his birthday.

Game clock was at like -1.

Touchdown confirmed.

Frank Drebin 09-14-2014 10:52 PM

welp....thanks for 15 years of great football, Mr. Tillman. Those tears tell me its over.

Frank Drebin 09-14-2014 11:23 PM

Can't believe the bears are in this. Down to two healthy corner backs. One is having a hell of a game.

Ruien 09-14-2014 11:54 PM

DA BEARS!

#1-norm-fan 09-15-2014 12:52 AM

Well that was quite a day of football.

The Fraze 09-15-2014 01:04 AM

Fuck.

DaveBrawl 09-15-2014 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4511157)
one of the things that should be discussed all week is how bad the Broncos offense has been in the 2nd half. only 3 pts today after 7 last week, nearly giving away the game again.

On one hand you're right it is kind of sad they shut down at halftime, on the other 24 and 31 should be enough to win games no matter when they are scored.

Clerk 09-15-2014 09:26 AM

Browns are the best team in the league!

Evil Vito 09-15-2014 12:14 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Walt Thurmond done for the year with a torn pec. Ugh.</font>

OssMan 09-15-2014 02:48 PM

J Cutler ridiculous stat line... like 176 yards and 4 tds

Emperor Smeat 09-15-2014 02:50 PM

Vikings reinstated Adrian Peterson after his 1 game punishment.

Vastardikai 09-15-2014 02:59 PM

So, violently beating the shit out of your child gets less of a punishment than smoking pot...

screech 09-15-2014 03:04 PM

Yay NFL!

Ruien 09-15-2014 03:07 PM

This was the Vikings reinstating him, The NFL has not punished him, yet.

Josh Gordon messed himself over because he CONSTANTLY had the same issues going on. The drug policy has just been redone. PLUS, if the rule book clearly states that you will receive a 8 game ban for smoking pot then why the heck are you doing it? That is on the idiotic player.

Nark Order 09-15-2014 05:08 PM

You're right in the fact that he knew the rules and took the risk. He deserves some sort of punishment. That fact remains though that marijuana being a banned substance is a ridiculously antiquated rule. It needs to be addressed. No matter how many offenses there are, it is a relatively harmless substance. Seems ridiculous that there could ever be a full season suspension for any marijuana related crime, really. (Except for maybe mass distribution)

Ruien 09-15-2014 06:24 PM

Oh it is. Agreed on that. Just can't stand when people bring up the "Well this rule does X amount of games and this rule does X amount". Especially when the NFL did not even punish Adrian (yet, as in he may be punished later). This was the Vikings doing, deactivating their player. Would just make sense to wait and see what the punishment actually is before complaining.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-15-2014 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4511469)
This was the Vikings reinstating him, The NFL has not punished him, yet.

Josh Gordon messed himself over because he CONSTANTLY had the same issues going on. The drug policy has just been redone. PLUS, if the rule book clearly states that you will receive a 8 game ban for smoking pot then why the heck are you doing it? That is on the idiotic player.

But the team has punished him so they can now defer it to next year.

McLegend 09-15-2014 08:52 PM

Got to get Touchdown's in the red zone.

Ruien 09-15-2014 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4511636)
But the team has punished him so they can now defer it to next year.

Can and will are two different things.

Emperor Smeat 09-15-2014 09:19 PM

Peterson now facing another child abuse allegation for another son he has with that one involving him beating the kid in the head.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ESPN
Minnesota Vikings running back Adrian Peterson, already facing felony charges in Texas for child abuse, has been accused in a separate incident involving another son who is 4 years old, KHOU-TV in Houston has reported.

The CBS affiliate cites text messages that reportedly include a photo of the son with an apparent head wound covered by bandages.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...use-accusation

McLegend 09-15-2014 09:35 PM

Stop losing yards in the Red zone. So frustrating.

McLegend 09-15-2014 09:50 PM

Adrian Peterson needs to do 2 things.

1) Stop beating his kids.
2) Stop having children.

Then his problems will be solved

McLegend 09-15-2014 09:52 PM

That was a really nice interception.

McLegend 09-15-2014 11:33 PM

That was awesome.

Nark Order 09-16-2014 01:12 AM

The media just isn't going to let this go. They smell blood. They are going to rip and tear at it until it explodes. Somehow Adrian Peterson's attorneys and PR people have prevented this from destroying him thus far but Ray Rice is only going to be a story for another week or so and they are going to need somebody else to hang. Probably not looking good.

Don't beat your kids, y'all.

Wehttam 09-16-2014 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4512056)
The media just isn't going to let this go. They smell blood. They are going to rip and tear at it until it explodes. Somehow Adrian Peterson's attorneys and PR people have prevented this from destroying him thus far but Ray Rice is only going to be a story for another week or so and they are going to need somebody else to hang.

until next week when we find out andrew luck eats babies while they are still in the womb

Heisenberg 09-16-2014 10:15 AM

It'd be a different story if AP denied and ran from authorities. he did admit to going a little too old school on his son's ass. I think he should have to serve some punishment though. Especially in a world where discipline is gone and everyone is righteous.

Evil Vito 09-17-2014 10:22 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Peterson has been put on the exempt list and is now barred from all team activities until his legal issues have been resolved.</font>

road doggy dogg 09-17-2014 11:23 AM

The big winners in all this are the people tired of hearing about Johnny Manziel

Innovator 09-17-2014 12:08 PM

Manziel has to be pissed theres no way he can be considered a "bad boy" now


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