Maybe,i wouldn't say it should be goal of the season though.

Lets Go Foxxxxxxxes!!!!!!:mad:

For ****s sake

We're down now.

Man.

I swear, they want to give me a heart attack.

Much as it pains me I don't think it's meant to be :-\

I felt for you there Kirky.

I would think Leicester and Wolves are down now,probably with Leeds seeing as they'll be without Viduka for a few games.

Dude last time they were without Viduka, they drew Man U.

Who have they got next, Everton? :o

Chelsea. :(. Seriously, if Jacko comes here and says Gudjonsen played well, I am going to <s>locate his seat at Stamford Bridge and punch him in the face </s> give him a bad rep. :mad:

Lampard needs a rest, Veron should play in his position against Aston Villa next game.

It was actually a good game, Boro have been one of the better teams I've seen play this season, there link up play when going on attacks is very impressive.

Come on Leeds, you shower of bastids. :'(

Leeds are going to stay up. :|

I hope they don't. That'd be hilarious.

I know. I REALLY want them to go down. But it looks like they are staying up. I wouldn't be suprised if the three promoted teams last year go down.

So I suppose this is one of those anti-Leeds forums then?

*casually notes that Wee Gooner has a tenner on Leeds staying up, before bolting for the door*

They don't really have anyone else to score as many though.

I would laugh my f</>ucking arse off if Leeds stayed up.

I would keep my fu</>cking ten bucks if Leeds stayed up :mad:

Leeds are still going down.

:mad:

Yeah,i think(and hope) that we'll win at Blackburn.

Leeds' first against us was offside also.

I honestly can't see them scoring too many without Viduka,i mean he's got like 4 in 4 and Smith has probably got that amount in 8 or 10.

0-0 at half-time in the Arsenal/Newcastle game.

Arsenal look likely to score soon though.

My prediction is 1-1 with someone getting a penalty (most likely Arsenal because Pires is a diving cunt)

0-0, what a sh</>ite game

Henry missed an open goal.:eek::o

I thought the second half was ok in terms of being pretty open but there wasn't many shots/good openings.

Defensive points for my BBC team though.:D

Yeah, its pretty hot, I got 18 from Henry/Pires on Friday, and I've got 3 from Bernard today

rats

Looks like you could have overtaken me again.:(

Oh great, Jacko replied in the Champions League thread.

I bet it will be all like "Eidur Godjohnsen was great even though HE'S A LAZY CU</>NT. I'm a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and I like to sniff my own butt" :mad:

slight edit :( lol nonetheless.

Oh man,even though Leicester are doing crap i do love the Easter period-no school and lots of football. :heart: :love:

Just checked some team news and why do United have to bring back van Nistelrooy and Keane for this game.I mean it's not like we're a team you need your first team to beat.:'(

You at home or at the crumbling mess that is Old Trafford?

Old Trafford,it's on prem+.

Oh dear, you going down....

Although I did just read Van Nistelrooy's out

Given our home record it is probably better that we're away:p

The regional teletext sport has misconstrued what Micky Adams has said about it.It quotes him as saying something like most people have counted us out of this match but i haven't,and then the title on the main page says 'Adams-Leicester will beat Man Utd':$

I do keep getting flashbacks to the last time we won there though...

:lol: :love:

Melchiot.:wtf:

Mutu has also been quite poor,Crespo has looked ok most of the time though.

Melchiot should be subbed for Gallas. He is letting Baryy piss all over him, he gives Barry a ridicoulous amount of time on the ball, way too much of it, then Barry just whips in a ball for Crouch. :mad:

Mutu's problem is that he keeps tracking back into midfield, and that he keeps taken the ball off other players, and then has no options because Crespo is up there on his own and being marked by a load of them. Mutu might as well be subbed because he can't score for shit. He should also start playing in midfield as he has the best work rate in the team and is very creative.

Righto, here is my opinion:

Aston Villa are one of the teams I now like in the Premiership, they don't cheat, they have a young squad, they play well together, they made it fu</>cking hard for Chelsea out there today. Jay Lloyd Samuel, Barry, Hendrie and Hitzspilger are very good. Crouch looks like a retarded goofball.

Ranieri needs to sort himself out, Melchiot was at fault for the first and second goals, and partly the third, since he gave away the throw. And then to bring off an attacker, fair enough Mutu was never likely to score, but to play with a lone striker when you need 2 goals is fu</>cking ridiculous. When he said that he has conceded the league title to the Arse, I didn't realise he meant he has also conceded second place to United :|. Still, Ranieri should be given at least till christmas.

Crespo should be the man more often, that was a great goal at the end, and he was in the right place for the first, he set up Joey Cole for a good chance but it was slightly high for Cole, but Cole should have done better. If Gronkjaer whipped that ball to Crespo near the end after beating the attacker for pace, I think we would have drawn 3-3.

Lampard needs a rest, he is too tired, let either Veron (I know he was injured in the warm up) or Mutu play in his position next match, we need him for the final 4 league games of the season.

Huth is the fuc</>king man, he is solid, always puts his body in the way of the ball, and belted that free kick, shame it wasn't on target. :$

I said this last season, and I will say it again, we should sell all our dutch players, Jimmy is more toruble then he is worth, Melchiot has been rubbish for 2 years, Zenden is the only one I like, and he won't want to stay with us.

HUTH is indeed the man

Liverpool proved once again they are sh</>ite, and its the same old story. Win a few, lose a few. It masks the fact that Houllier is doing a terrible job, and as far as I'm concerned I don't care if we qualify for the Champions League or not, he's got to go. We are not seriously up sh</>it creek. Newcastle need a win to go 2 points clear, and if Charlton win their game in hand they go ahead of us, its a fu</>cking travesty. Even Villa, Birmingham, Middlesbrough and if they win tonight Fulham, are within 3-4 points of us, its completely shambolic.

Man, Dave Jones is tearing Uriah Rennie a new one in the post-match interview. I've never heard him go off at a ref like that :o

Still, having said that, *another* last minute goal conceded :-\ Eh, there's still a chance but we need to win at least 3 of our last 5, and I'm not sure we can.

Plain truth of it is you can't ship goals like we have and stay up. Defence is not good enough; Irwin should've retired at the end of last season, Butler and Craddock are by turns ok and shockingly retarded, and Lee Naylor is barely good enough for Div 1. I'm not so sure it was that bright of an idea to bring in Paul Jones when Michael Oakes was doing the best he could either.

I hope we can keep the basis of the squad together cause we should be able to come straight back up. For some reason Camara's on fire right now (4 in 4...why couldn't he play like this from the start? :| ) and Cort should score buckets in the Nationwide. We're gonna have to replace at the least Alex Rae, which will be difficult cause he's by far and away our best player this year and Colin Cameron is not good enough. We've still got Jo Lescott to come back though and if we ship out some of the dead wood like Iversen, Blake and so on, I'm pretty hopeful to come back.

I just hope West Brom f</>uck up and have to stay down :mad:

I was so gutted for you :(

Yeah good stuff from Crespo.

I think you're being harsh on Ranieri though,after all Chelsea are 6 points ahead of United(probably 3 after tomorrow) and i think even if you guys lose at OT then you'll be ahead on goal diffference.If you finish 2nd and maybe get to the champions league final then i think Ranieri should should get that extension to his contract for 2 or 3 years.Considering what he has done this year,unless next season starts very badly for Chelsea,that giving him to Christmas would be unfair.

On the substitions i agree,i would've bought Gudjohnsen on as even though he's said to be lazy he could be dangerous.I reckon we are in the same boat on opinions about our clubs' managers decisions cause i often wonder what Adams is doing(mainly in playing Scowcroft) but the rest of the fans love him,same for Ranieri.

I though i read Zenden wanted to go back to Chelsea a while back though,unless he can get a move back to Spain.

Pompey are safe i reckon,have to see how Leeds go without Viduka but Blackburn are looking too poor now anyways so i think Wolves,Leicester and Blackburn after these games.

Tempted to get some hope if we win tomorrow but the home form has been too poor to survive in any division.

Great result for Pompey :y:

As a thought, I don't think any of the clubs fixing to come up are going to poise a problem as it stands. West Brom *might* have a chance if they come up due to their experience but I wouldn't count on it. Norwich's main weapon is Darren Huckerby...nuff said. Only team I can imagine having a chance is actually Sunderland, though they'll need beefing up too.

Yeah that's what is pretty annoying,we didn't play West Brom or Sunderland last year i don't think any other team has looked better than Wolves and Leicester.I guess considering how many each promoted side bought in in the summer i should give them a chance.West Brom,for me,come across as lucky quite often,i mean they haven't seemed prolific at home and they definetly won't win so many away in the premiership.

I guess we won't have much of a squad left if we go down,most players were bought in until the end of the season with a view to extensions so that we wouldn't have a financial problem if we went down.Morris and Dickov up front could be good.

At the end of the day, Wolves aren't good enough to stay up. But even their biggest haters have to admit they have had practically every decision and piece of luck go against them this season.

Personally, I think Wigan might stand a decent chance of doing something next season if they go up. They have the resouces and the fanbase so you never know.

I'm pretty sure any team that goes up from the first division will go straight back down. Norwich have excellent loan signings but can they do it two seasons running? West Brom have improved their team but I guess are still not good enough to survive in the Premiership and well we have a squad cut back to his his bones since last season and probably don't have the resources to stay up. Most of the teams in Division 1 are far too inconsistent, they could beat a team in a similar position to them one week and then the next get totally hammered by a bottom side.

Yes,2-1 Fulham at half time.

I never said I wanted Ranieri out though, I am not your average fickle fan, I think he has done a good job this season, but it is clear that we will never win the league unless he gets rid of some shit players, and starts playing our best players more, to really hit form you need to have a good run in the team.

The match at Old Trafford isn't my only worry, Leeds at home will be tough as shit, seriously, look what they did last year against the Arse on the second to last game, 3-2, kept them up, I can see that again, as again, its right near the end of the season. Also, playing Newcastle at their gaff is going to be tough. I really think second spot is Uniteds.

Zenden has said he wants to play Champions League football, but he also wants to play regulary, he is not garunteed that at Chelsea, I would be shocked if he stays, I think he will just stay at Boro and play in the UEFA Cup.

Blackburn winning 4-3 :|

Yeah, good game to watch. Well, I only saw the last hour, so I only saw 1 goal.

Fulham's defending was worse tonight than Leicester's most of the time.:|

Thanks for condeming us to relegation.:y:

Bollocks :mad:

I dunno how they can be so good defensively away and then poor at home.

I mean they kept Arsenal to 0,won at Man United and tbh we battered them without scoring on saturday.

Seeing as i reckon that may have blown our chances of survival it seems that Wolves are definetly in der bions.:'(

Well just look at what Birmingham were doing for the first 15 or so games of the season with not much more than a solid defence.

Yeah,i thought Dabizas would have done better for us.I'd prefer to seen the old defense more of a chance because for a lot of last season it was the best in the country.

We've improved a fair bit,clean sheets against Liverpool,Birmingham and Wolves within the last 8 games or so,the Leeds game was quite a blip and looking back to the Fulham game i felt we were unlucky seeing as the lads thought the offside flag was going up on the first and the second was just a breakaway goal,can't be faulted for that.

If we had 5 points from the Middlesbrough and Wolves away games which we should have won then things would be better.

Birmingham have just made a £6 million offer for Kezman from PSV.

No fu</>cking way, if Kezman goes to Birmingham I will be unbelievably shocked.

Mexes will sign for Liverpool if we get in the Champions League

Where did you hear that?

That would be good for them,if they can keep Forssell for another year at least then those two up front should be great.

Roy Keane has come out of international 'retirement' or exile if you will,and RvN has been linked with Barcelona.:love:

The Kezman thing came up on my Sky Sports PC update pop up thingy when I was on the boards. The story is now posted on Planet Football.

0-0 at half time,last i heard Leeds were losing so its going well.

We have more or less matched them,and had more clear cut chances(less said about Izzet's shot the better though,and Stewarts near half time.:$)

Leeds 1-1 Everton

Apart from soccernet.com's Gamecast, are there any other decent live commentaries on the net?

live score centre on skysports.com is pretty good.

Does it give commentary or just scores

If you go to skysports.com on a saturday then they have the audio of the guys who watch matches and summarise.They go to reports a lot too.

Anyway,1-0 defeat but not as bad as i thought,if show that much passion against sides like Blackburn on saturday and maybe Charlton then we could still have a chance of staying up.Overall i think the lads did well,got into a slight argument with my dad about it too cause he was just constantly criticising the team.

Shame about the one defensive lapse from Dabizas because United,apart from a few Ronaldo efforts didn't look like getting another.Also,3rd time in 3 games that stupid offside decisions have cost us goals and probably points.

They played well for what they had. Obviously they don't create a whole hell of a lot, but they battle hard, and at set pieces they look really dangerous.

Didn't rate United at all tonight, just like they've played for most of the season, they just seem to lack the cutting-edge that Arsenal have, but to be fair they do grind out results.

Still at a loss about why the United goal stood, 3 players offside? Or is it this new "rule" thing? I dunno.

Exactly,Saha was way offside and the ball was played in his direction(fair enough it went past him to Ronaldo) but he's still the one the players have pushed up to catch offside.

This new rule is completely crap,its like they thought ' hmm,these linesmen are making a few bad calls....i know why don't we make it even harder for them.'

Seriously they should just go back to flagging anyone who is offside,not bother whether they are interfering or not seeing as if they aren't interfering then why are they on the pitch,stood in that sort of position?

Different subject - do you think this odd point will eventually help Leeds to survive, or will they drop anyway?

I think they will stay up, not because of that point, I cans ee them being at least 3 points clear of the drop zone. Leicester and Wolves are goners, just a question of who goes with them, Pompey have to face Arsenal and United still, I don't like their chances of survival. :'(

Nah,i think Leeds are gone without Viduka.I think Portsmouth are less likely to go down than Blackburn becuase Pompey can win a few home games and probably win at Leicester aswell,and get something from Leeds.

Gee, it's gonna be a real shame if the three teams that were just promoted all go down straight away.

But apart from Leeds, most of the teams in the relegation battle (Wolves, Pompey, Leicester, Blackburn, Man City) have all been promoted in the last few years anyway.

Here's the remaining fixtures for the 6 clubs in real relegation trouble (Totts and Everton are mathematical chances, but I don't think they'll sink that far in 6 games)

<b>Wolves</b>
v Boro
@ Birmingham
v Everton
@ Newcastle
v Tottenham

As it stands, Wolves are 9 points from safety. So they'd have to win every game at home, and get at least an away point against Newcastle or Birmingham. That is, provided every other team loses as well. In short, Wolves are <b>doomed</b> - Sorry MMM

<b>Leicester</b>
@ Blackburn
v Man City
@ Charlton
v Pompey
@ Arsenal

I'm not sure that Leicester are as doomed as they appear. 3 of their remaining games are against sides at the wrong end of the table, 2 of which are home games. Not to mention the away game at Ewood Park, where Blackburn haven't managed a win in ages. Charlton with renewed hope of Champions League football may be a bit of a tough one, though. On the last day of the season, they travel to Highbury, where Arsenal has likely already sealed the title. They could field an understrength side for this one, but just remember last year after they lost the title against Leeds, they fielded a side which thumped Southampton 6-1. I wouldn't be writing Leicester off yet, though. The upcoming Leicester games will probably shape this relegation battle.

<b>Leeds</b>
@ Arsenal
v Portsmouth
@ Bolton
v Charlton
@ Chelsea

Leeds have had some shocking losses this season, (4-0 Leicester, 4-0 Everton, 6-1 Pompey, 4-1 Arsenal, 4-1 Birmingham etc.) and have a very poor goal difference of -29. Simply put, they have to beat the other teams on points, because if they're level, Leeds will drop due to goal difference. They have a very important game against Pompey, who have a game in hand on their rivals. They have three very tricky games to come, away to Arsenal and Chelsea, and home to Charlton. Leeds can pull a result out of their arses when it counts though, as they did last season at Highbury. Chelsea may become a different proposition if second spot is sealed for either them or Manyoo. They also have to play Bolton at Reebok, where Bolton has only managed 2 wins since the turn of the year, both 1-0. For a side that was playing a Champions League semi only 3 years ago, this is a very important period for the club. Time for the Smiths and Vidukas to shine. I tip <b>Leeds to survive</b>, if only just.

<b>Portsmouth</b>
v Arsenal (Postponed)
v Manyoo
@ Leeds
v Fulham
@ Leicester
v Boro

Portsmouth probably have the hardest set of fixtures to come, having to host both Manyoo and Arsenal before the end of the season. That being said, they do have a game in hand, and any points taken from these 2 matches is a bonus. They are capable of taking points from top sides too, as they have at Highbury earlier in the season. They also have to travel to Elland Road and the Walkers, two games which will again shape this battle. Both Leeds and Leicester will really aim up in these games, which promise to be very entertaining. They also host Fulham, where the faint hope that Fulham can qualify for Europe will make this a tough game. Lastly, they host Boro who have a poor away record. I'd love to see Portsmouth stay up because of their fans :love: (and this is from a Gooner), and I'd say <b>they're about 50-50</b>.

<b>Blackburn</b>
v Leicester
@ Everton
v Manyoo
@ Tottenham
v Birmingham

Blackburn are less than a game above the drop zone. Their form against other sides from the bottom of the table has been atrocious (1-1 Man City, 2-1 losses to Portsmouth and Leeds). If this form continues, it makes the games against Leicester, Everton and Tottenham very interesting. They also have to play against Manyoo, who will be holding onto hope of 2nd place, and Birmingham who are dreaming of Europe. You can never trust Blackburn, they bounce around the table like a yo-yo. Last season was a good one for them, they even did the double over Arsenal. This is very much like the year when they went from champions to division 1. I will make a bold prediction, <b>Blackburn will go down</b> because you just can't trust them to get a win, can ya?.

<b>Manchester City</b>
v Southampton
@ Leicester
v Newcastle
@ Boro
v Everton

7 wins. This whole season, Manchester City have had 7 wins. The only teams worse than that are Wolves and Leicester (5 wins), and as it stands, they are in deep, deep shit. 13 draws, 13 losses. Basically, Man City win once every 5 games. Which means they probably will only win one of their remaining fixtures, and tie or lose the rest. I know a draw is better than a loss, but just..barely. At least what games they have lost, haven't been by much. If Man City can stay level with their rivals, they will survive, because they have the best goal difference of -1. Their last win was against Manyoo, and that seems a long time ago, doesn't it? I really can't trust Man City to take enough points from these games to survive, though they probably will take some points from Boro and Leicester. My pick is, <b>Man City are 50-50</b> to go down.

Well we also haven't won a home game this year so that need to change,Popmey were able to get something from Charlton so if they go complacent we may have a chance there.I was thinking the same thing about Arsenal myself a few days ago but then i remembered that they're unbeaten all season,if they haven't lost going into the last game i can't see them fielding a poor side,especially after being knocked out of Europe.

I'm afraid we have drawn too many aswell.

Leeds v Arsenal - I'm not sure who to go for :'(

On one hand, I've got 10 bucks riding on Leeds to beat the drop and this is an important game

On the other hand, I'm a Gooner

Dilemma, dilemma :mad:

No-one's games against the top teams(out of the bottom clubs) will matter really,they'll be expected to lose so anything positive is a bonus.

E.g tonight,i was pleased to see more passion for the cause and,although they were below average,we matched a Man Utd team for a while.

Yeah I was watching that this morning

The commentator goes "And for those of you just tuning in, Manchester United's solitary goal was scored by Gary Neville. Honest, please believe me"

Being 6 in the morning, it was fooking hilarious :lol:

But out of the games remaining, Leeds definitely need to take some points from a top club. Even if they beat Bolton and Pompey, I'm not sure it will be enough to ensure they survive.

Yeah they said he averages about 1 goal per 100 appearances.:'(

Final League Table

1 - Arsenal 92
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2 - Man Utd 82
3 - Chelsea 81
4 - Liverpool - 58
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5 - Newcastle - 56
6 - Charlton 56
7 - Aston Villa 53
8 - Birmingham - 53
9 - Middlesbrough - 52
10 - Southampton - 49
11- Fulham - 48
12 - Bolton- 47
13 - Everton - 44
14 - Tottenham- 43
15 - Man City - 40
16 - Portsmouth - 40
17 - Leeds - 39
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18 - Blackburn - 36
19 - Leicester - 31
20 - Wolves- 30

This is what I think

Damn,i was looking for my Predictions thread at the old forum but looks like it's been deleted.:(

I think i said Leicester to finish 15th or something so that is wrong,but that's all i can remember.

Come on Leeds, please survive. :(

Well summed up Gooner.

I don't think Liverpool will end up 4th. Struggle for 5th even. They need a new gaffer fast.

As for my bottom 6 (well the rest don't matter since Arsenal have won it).

Portsmouth - 41
Man City - 39
Blackburn - 36
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Leeds - 34
Leicester - 33
Wolves - 27

I really can't see Pompey staying up, Leeds will stay up. But yeah Wolves and And Leicester are goners. :wavesad:

Keeping The Faith....just says:
Leeds will go down a bit points and goals wise without Viduka,i still think we'll win at Blackburn ad maybe Man City and you'll win at our gaff.

I've got Liverpool down to play crap in the next 5 games, but a win against Fulham, and go into the last game behind Newcastle, pulling out the win.

I was a bit more optimistic for Leeds as they will win most of there home games, and that would put them above Blackburn.

I notice your very pessimistic towards City and Liverpool :p

PFA PLAYER OF THE YEAR NOMINATIONS

Thierry Henry
Patrick Vieira
Alan Shearer
Frank Lampard
Jay-Jay Okocha
Steven Gerrard

PFA YOUNG PLAYER OF THE YEAR

John Terry
Glen Johnson
Scott Parker
Wayne Rooney
Kolo Toure
Shaun Wright-Phillips


Personally I'd go with

1- Thierry Henry
2- Steven Gerrard
3- Frank Lampard

1- Shaun Wright-Phillips
2- John Terry
3- Kolo Toure

Basically, Henry has been beyond amazing this season, he has to win the award. I out Gerrard just ahead of Lampard because Gerrard has single handedly taken Liverpool to within Champions League contention. Without him, we'd be battling Relegation, I honestly believe that. Lampard has been immense, but his impact on the team hasn't been what Gerrard's has been at Liverpool.

Shaun Wright-Phillips should get the award, not because he's had a better season than Terry or Toure, but because he is the breakout player of the season. He's come a really long way from the start of the season, and I think that deserves the award. Terry just ahead of Toure, because Terry has proved he is the best centre back in the country this season.

Has to be Henry for the PFA,but interesting there aren't any United players.:o

I would go with John Terry for the young player but i would have though he'd have been too old to qualify for that.Wright-Phillips second and Toure third.

where the f</>uck is ronaldo on that? :|

Actually yeah,Ronaldo should be there instead of Glen Johnson.

I'd say Henry and Toure, but only because

a) I'm hopelessly biased towards Arsenal

b) Toure has really emerged this season to solve Wenger's centre-half problems

c) John Terry has a ridiculous haircut :mad:

d) I don't really get to see any Man Citeh games :mad:

I 100% agree there Rob.

Jay Jay was much better last season, and has been rubbish this season. Melchiot plays much more then Johnson, also Johnson does score the odd good goal, he doesn't play regulary and has a bad attitude problem.

I think Forssell should be there, the guy has been great, and if Ranieri doesn't bring him back and play him next season, I will not be suprised as he won't be there. But whoever is manager better bring him and Bolo back.

Henry MUST win PFA player of the year, it really cannot be anyone else. and although this is slightly biased, super JT for the young player of the year, I love him.

Why, because he has played well for the last 3 games. :|

I'm not saying Johnson should be there, but fu</>ck off should Ronaldo.

LMAO!!!! :rofl:

I'm surprised no one ever mentioned that before. You'd think with all the money hes getting he'd be able to afford a decent haircut.
Anyway, my predictions are: Henry
Wright- Phillips

Something is seriously fu</>cked up if Henry doesn't get it

Hillsborough anniversary today

Always makes me sad, dunno why.

I was only 2 at the time