3-0 DRays in the 2nd. There are so many jokes I want to make about Schilling right now, but I'll cut him slack because the Devil Rays are actually awesome since the all star break.

He still sucks though.

No it wasn't Lugo, it was some even more no-namer. Lugo has potential to be pretty good, he isn't real bad now either.

Anyway, Buehrle called out the Rangers for stealing pitches and having a little light in the outfield. I dunno, I try to hate the White Sox but Buehrle is one of the guys I just kind of have to respect.

Why would the Rangers steal signs, they have the best infield in baseball, don;t you ever watch ESPN?

OK, back-to-back-to-back extra base hits. 5-0, I don't care if the Devil Rays are hot, you suck. The Red Sox will not win the World Series with this clown in the rotation.

What are you talking about?

5-0...

So, the sox have 2 SP's.

Wells, who has to sit 6games and could probably get another 6-???? for calling out the commmish and stiring a lot of crap. Heck, the Sox even released a statement kissing Seligs butt and basicly saying "David Wells doesn't speak for the team, but the team will speak for him and say he was just kidding?"

and Pappelbon, who looks good as a starter, but they don't want to kill his arm to soon (See: Chicago Cubs young pitchers) so they're keeping him in the pen for the rest of the year.

Schilling can't place his fastball.
Arroyo is back to earth (4th/5th type starter).
Wake, oh yeah, I keep forgetting him...

Ugh, pitching wins and the sox don't have it.

Foulke is supposed to be back Thursday, but I heard the sox are delaying someone and might just shut him down for the seaoson, but I didn't hear who.

So, do the White Sox have enough bats so they don't loose 2-1 every game?

Yeah, I've been looking forward to Schilling's starts. The Yankees chance to gain some ground.

Of course, cause there's no chance he could turn it around and there's no way a team can win without one pitcher.

Really, you know your stuff, but you're simply talking out your butt because you don't like schilling.

First post was a joke about how the media rides Texas cock because they hit alot of HR's; second post, I guess you aren't watching Sox-DRays.

Only reason I don't count out the Sox or Yanks are they both have good pitchers and hitters who are slumping and they "could" break out.

Also, the only team with dominating pitching seems to be the White Sox, but I'm not sure they have enough hitting to put runs on the board.

If he returns to 2004 form I would probably pick them to win the AL (I still think the Cardinals are best team in MLB), but I don't see that happening. What I'm saying is that if the Curt Schilling we've seen since his return from the DL is the same one come October, I can't see the Red Sox winning it. They're rotation would be Clement-Schilling-Arroyo-Wells with Wakefield emergency starter (I assume), I don't think those other 3 guys are good enough to counter Schilling's crappiness. In a seven game series, Schilling would get 2 starts, and would most definately lose both if he is in the form of right now. That doesn't leave much room for error for the other 3 guys, none of which have been consistent all season long.

Again this is all if Schilling pitches the same way in October as he is now. I realize there are still about 6 starts (if he makes it that far) for him to figure it out. But if he doesn't I do not like their chances.

I would have so much more respect for Schilling if he would come out tomorrow and tell Francona he is done for the season, and let them work with the 4 man playoff rotation of Clement-Arroyo-Wakefield-Wells. I think he's too much of an egomaniac to do what is best for the team and is more focused on proving people wrong.

Go D'Rays.

Take that AAofLA. Take that, take that.

Street giving me a scare though.

KHorn: 0-4

David Wells got called to the commishers office lol

A lot of the shit he said was right tho, pretty fucked up he got six games for what he did when you think about. Kenny Rogers hits a camera man 3 times, 13 games. Dudes use 'roids, 10 games. Somebody can read Wells' lips and he gets 6 games? Fucking ridiculous. Bud Selig is awful. I dont even know how people can take him serious.

My favorite thing in baseball today is probably the look on K-Rod's face when gives up a home run and is unable to do his stupid fist-pump that he does every K.

Where is that clown who said the Angels were the best team in the AL a while back? That was ridiculous then and is even sillier now.

LOL, same here. I was saying that to myself last night and today at school I was pissed because I was watching the video of the homer and the camera didn't show him after he gave it up. I love watching him suffer

So, Schilling has a bad first two, and then the last 4 looked like the schilling of last year, he was on fire.

Now, you need to understand why the fans of boston love curt so much.

1) He comes here, sox win a WS and he came here and all he talked about was wanting to break the curse and beat the yanks.

2) He is outspoken, fans here respect that.

3) He screws up his ankle, can barely walk, a doctor tries sewing a tendon in place on a cadaver and Schilling says "Ok, if you think that might work, go for it", has his tendon stitched in place and goes out and throws a great game. Nothing like that has happened in baseball since Kirk Gibsons pinch hit HR when he could barely round the bases.

I understand why Boston fans like him. I don't like him, and hope he sucks the rest of the season and has to retire.

Johnson Vs Hernandez tonight. (Yankees/Mariners) Could be an interssting game 'slash' match up

I went to that game last night, Felix pitched better. Too bad our hitters suck.

6-0 A's, Torre took out Leiter in the first. Oakland gave Leiter a standing O and A-Rod mouthed "motherfuckers". Now Giambi is up and is getting booed as well as some Balco chants.

I love A's-Yankees

Liriano has been called up. Consider yourself warned.

MIGUEL K-RO

lol could anyone here the people chanting for Eagles at the Nationals game today? They were right next to me, security had to take them away in the 8th. RIDICULOUS

LOL David Wells is ridiculous

Carepenter is pitching like a cabinet this year

Where did this 19 year old come from, The Miz?

King Felix is the man

Hey if anyone hasn't noticed the Angels aren't good

Damnit the Astros own the Phillies.

Very sad

Welcome to being a Met fan, AssMan. Another crushing loss at Turner Cemetary.

<font color=goldenrod>I didn't even need to watch the end of the game to know they would lose with Looper in there to try and close it out

Trade him, release him, kill him...whatever, get him off the fucking team</font> :mad:

Hey, Travis. How many Mariners does that make it now? 3?

Bunch of Ice Heads...

I knew they were going to lose the whole time. Once they put Looper in though, it pretty much sealed it. I watch any ounce of Mets I get here in VA and it kills me. It is just like waiting to die. So terrible

what the fuck were they doing taking Roberto Hernandez out IN THE 8TH to go to Looper? Every one in the world knows Hernandez is their best reliever except our boy Willie. Get used to it, folks.

<font color=goldenrod>Well, after having a Mets desktop/Mets MSN icon since March, I've gotten rid of them and replaced them with NY Giants ones....no chance the Mets make the playoffs, and the only thing that could change my mind is a sweep of the Cards (not even in my dreams....)

Oh well, at least they are better than last year, even though they are heading for dead last in the NL East</font> :mad:

Move them to California and they will win the division :shifty:

Lol at LaTroy

Morse took steroids in AA almost 2 years ago and has been suspended 3 times for taking it once because it keeps showing up. Strong and Franklin are idiots though.

Yeah I know. He seems very open about it. I wonder why if these are AA results they showed up again?

Sox/Yanks ESPN

Bernie Williams has a target on his head

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=5 height=18>National League</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left width="50%" height=18> </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">GB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">Left</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Houston</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>65</TD><TD>--</TD><TD>22</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> Florida</TD><TD>75</TD><TD>66</TD><TD>0.5</TD><TD>21</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Philadelphia</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>1.5</TD><TD>21</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> Washington</TD><TD>73</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>3.0</TD><TD>20</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> NY Mets</TD><TD>70</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>21</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> Milwaukee</TD><TD>70</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>21</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Chi Cubs</TD><TD>69</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>6.5</TD><TD>21</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Lots of important games left to play.

Yankees will win division

LOL

With Cleveland winning like 11-2 now and Chicago losing, the Indians are only going to be 5.5 games back.

I know Hero asked the question, but I gotta wonder also.

How does it show up 2yrs later?


Sounds like it could be a load of crap.

Nah, and the best is the Sox will knock them out of the wildcard the last weekend of the season!

(although, I must admit, having tickets to the last 2 games, seeing it come down to deciding the division would be really sweet!)

What are you talking about? If they Angels lose tonight, they are only a game out of the west. Stop being so damn pessimistic.

Cleveland has it

Macha needs to stop working Street so hard. He's pitched over an inning like his last 4 outings.

Also, Rincon the fat midget should never pitch ever

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=5 height=18>American League</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left width="50%" height=18> </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">GB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">Left</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Cleveland (18)</TD><TD>83</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>--</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> NY Yankees</TD><TD>81</TD><TD>62</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>19</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Oakland</TD><TD>80</TD><TD>64</TD><TD>2.5</TD><TD>18</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=yspsctbg><TD class=ysptblhdr colSpan=5 height=18>National League</TD></TR><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left width="50%" height=18> </TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">W</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="12%">L</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">GB</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl width="13%">Left</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Florida (17)</TD><TD>78</TD><TD>67</TD><TD>--</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> Philadelphia</TD><TD>77</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Houston</TD><TD>76</TD><TD>68</TD><TD>1.5</TD><TD>18</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right><TD align=left> Washington</TD><TD>74</TD><TD>71</TD><TD>4.0</TD><TD>17</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right><TD align=left> Milwaukee</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>72</TD><TD>5.5</TD><TD>18</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


As I see, these are the only contenders left.

Milwaukee and Washington, nah

Dammit, I almost made it through an entire season without being asked to leave Safeco field for being mean to the visitors. Brendan Donnelly is a whiny bitch

Did you deserve to have a chair thrown at you?

So, what did you say that "crossed the line"?

Basically just made fun of him for being a scab replacement to the point where he told on me

If you don't know why he's a scab read this http://www.baseball-almanac.com/lege..._players.shtml

Milwaukee & Washington I have as long shots. I was going to omit them, but really, they are both a 5 game winning streak of being at the throats of the others.

ONe of the very few to use his real name as a scab player. Interesting.

Macha just cost the A's 2 straight games to Cleveland because of poor bullpen management. Really doubt they'll make the playoffs now.

Indians have a ridiculous scheduale remaining. They play the Royals like 7 times and the Devil Rays 3 times. what the fuck?

Yep, Indians are in a great position.

and they tossed you for that? That's really dumb, I could see swearing or calling his family names and such...

and yeah, I know about the replacement players (sorry, in some cases I can't use the term "scab") Sox have had a few, Daubach, Merloni and now Kevin Millar, none are allowed in the MLBPA and I'm pretty sure you won't find Millar's name on the WS trophy or other MLBPA stuff (shirts and such) because of that.

17 to go, 2.5 games back...

could come down to the last 3games, everyone laughed at MLB, said it will be decided before then and they ruined a good mid-season rivalry... looks like MLB may have created the best 3 game series to end a season in a long time. Even if the division is decided by then, it could hold the WC hopes on one team.

Thats pretty stupid IMO. Why would they not recognize Milar? I dont get it . He can play baseball obviously. He wouldnt still be in the league if he couldnt. He took an oppurtunity given to him by MLB. Hell he probably never would have gotten in if he hadnt. Just doesnt make since. Maybe you guys can explain to me ?

Yeah that's pretty ridunkulous.

I could not follow the Nationals if I tried. They show about 1 game for five games they play on UPN which is their regular station. They haven't shown one game from this Mets series, it is on ESPN but it is blacked out here.

They have two radio stations, one is a regular FM station that plays music, and they do some nats games on the other station is not in range for me to pick up which is ridiculous cause I am like 30 miles outside Washington. Its so annoying.

You spell MVP O-R-T-I-Z

If I understand correctly, any player who crossed the picket line aka "scab" is not allowed to join the MLB player union.

The union basiclly said, you didn't support us and our members, you undercut and tried to (or did for a moment) take a job from out players/members we don't want you and we wont protect you, etc...

I remember stories of Daubach getting the cold sholder and even thrown at in games because of being a "scab".

So, hence Millar isn't part of mechandising and license agreements from the MLBPA unless they work out a side deal. This is true of all scab players.

The only other person I know of that "withdrew" from the MLBPA not banned, is Barry Bonds.

must admit, a little worried about the Sox.

I think they have the "stuff" to go all the way, the only team I see with "great pitching" is the white sox, but not sure if they have enough and I question if they have the hitting and could drop close games.

That being said, besides great pitching and clutch hitting last year the sox (except for a little ankle thing) avoided the injury bug and had good role players.

Kapler will hurt, schilling and foulke not 100% hurts, and Damon being banged up worries me... the injury big may catch them, which sucks cause I want to see another great playoffs, everyone healthy, everyone top their game. I want to see a game #1 with the CY winning Johnson v. Schilling and so on...

It's really sad that offense HAS to win games for the Yankees right now down the stretch.

7-5 Yanks in the 6th

I'm really curious as to why VEL keeps referring to the White Sox as having dominating pitching. Does he watch their games? Buehrle is great but that is about it. Garland and Garcia are above average and Hernandez and Contreras are 2 of the most unpredictable inconsistent pitcher you'll find. The best 2 pitching staffs in the AL are by far Minnesota and Oakland, Minnesota is out of it though.

Speaking of the Chi Sox, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Indians take over that division. They're skating on thin ice.

Hence why Minnesota isn't mentioned.

Of the contenders the White Sox have one of the better staffs in the AL, but you can see (or not see) it however you want.

When you go to a five-man rotation, I would say the White Sox are probably the team to beat, but oftentimes it is the three man rotation that you have to reckon with, and I'm just not sold on Garcia or Garland either.

Let's go now A's. now. nownownownownownownow

I would honestly stop watching Twins Baseball

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/5617772.html

A-R-O-D

hmmmm, I know a team that's looking for a center fielder :naughty:

The Red Sox when the Dodgers over pay for Damon? :p

Although, think Hunter wants his next first game back to be where he got injured?

As for the White Sox, I haven't looked in a few weeks, but there 5 all had good stats, one of the best stats in the league, that's why I mention them.

But it is true, come playoff time it's a 3 or 4 man rotation.

I would hate myself if Torii went to either NYY or Boston. I think he would still be the man on those teams and would be cool playing for them, but there is absolutely nothing they can/or will offer us that is worth taking. Prospects? We don't need any prospects. We have three great hitters in the minors and a slew of pitchers, we need ML hitters. Sure if the Yankees gave us Jeter or Matsui or the Sox gave us Ortiz back o something, but that won't happen and can't happen with our payroll, and even if it did it still probably wouldn't make the Twins a better team.

You know that I am not off base in saying this, if the Twins can pinch some penny's and sign Soriano, we would have to be one of the top contenders for the AL Pennant. Cy, Radke, Silva, and then the two youngs guys will still make up one of the best pitching staffs, we will still have one of the top bullpens, and with a lineup of Stewart-Mauer-Soriano-Morneau-Hunter-Ford-LeCroy-Cuddyer-Punto we would look a whole helluva lot better then we do now. Of course that all relies on Morneau having a full year playing well next year, he is ultimately the reason why we were no good this year. He failed expectations in the second half.

Meat.

Got tickets to the final game of the season between the Yanks and Sox at Fenway. It would be great if this final game knocks the Red Sox out of the playoff spot.

I got that and the game before.

I think everyone secretly hopes it comes down to the last 3 and the non-div winner won't get a wild card.

Although, I must admit, if it comes down to that last game, there's a real good chance I'll sell the tickets, already been offerd over 4x the value.

Yeah, I can't imagine what that place will be like if that last game determines who makes the playoffs. Either way, if the Sox win it will be crazy, if the Yanks win it will be even crazier.

Haven't been to Fenway in like 5 years either.

I personally couldn't give half a shit if both the Yankees and Red Sox make the playoffs this year. That rivalry doesn't matter anymore and the Yankees don't deserve to be in the playoffs with what they've put on the field this year. I would prefer the Indians or the A's, and I don't think I'm alone on that. Another East Coast ALCS is something that people on the East Coast want.

jelousy :roll:

Come on Jays.

Huge comeback underway against the Yankees. Wierd game. Jays were up 3-1 after first inning. Randy Johnson got tossed in the second for argueing balls and strikes. Yankees went up by something like 9 runs. Now the lead is down to 1 run. Bottom of the 7th inning.