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Crimson 02-04-2008 11:38 PM

I'm liking the may ppv..Ortiz/Machida, Sherk/Penn..Evans/Silva

Reavant 02-05-2008 08:37 AM

yea thats a great card

Rob 02-05-2008 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson (Post 2034361)
jesus christ Shogun/Iceman for june kjcxhcjchejc!!kel

I'll be there and the Vegas show in May :D

Blue Demon 02-05-2008 06:20 PM

I'm hoping to get tickets to the show in Montreal :cool:

Innovator 02-05-2008 08:15 PM

Montreal gets an amazing card and the east coast get Rashad vs. Bisping....ugh

CMON PASS IN NEW YORK

Rob 02-06-2008 05:48 PM

Get over it.

Innovator 02-06-2008 05:51 PM

Eventually, heard UFC will get in New York around 2009

Reavant 02-07-2008 12:23 AM

illinois gets fully santioned in july... im sure theres a chicago ppv pretty soon after

Rob 02-07-2008 11:59 AM

Should be a hot crowd there.

Jura 02-08-2008 11:13 AM

I found out how much the guys in UFC 81 were getting paid:

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td class="yspsctnhdln"> UFC 81 Fighters Salaries
</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="7"><spacer type="block" height="1" width="1"></td> </tr> </tbody></table> Dann Stupp, MMAjunkie.com
February 4, 2008 Despite suffering a first-round submission loss to Frank Mir on Saturday, Brock Lesnar collected a cool quarter-of-a-million dollars in his UFC debut.

The former NCAA Division I national wrestling champion and World Wrestling Entertainment performer was the highest-paid fighter at UFC 81, according to paperwork acquired by MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.






UFC 81 took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas and aired live on pay-per-view.

Mir earned a base salary of $80,00 for the fight -- which was the fourth-highest behind Lesnar and main-event fighters Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) and Tim Sylvia ($100,000).

The total disclosed payroll for the event was $892,000.

The full list of salaries included:
  • Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira ($200,000) def. Tim Sylvia ($100,000)
  • Frank Mir ($80,000) def. Brock Lesnar ($250,000)
  • Nate Marquardt ($52,000) def. Jeremy Horn ($25,000)
  • Ricardo Almeida ($40,000) def. Rob Yundt ($5,000)
  • Tyson Griffin ($36,000) def. Gleison Tibau ($11,000)
  • Chris Lytle ($24,000) def. Kyle Bradley ($4,O00)
  • Tim Boetsch ($12,000) def. David Heath ($6,000)
  • Marvin Eastman ($14,000) def. Terry Martin ($12,000)
  • Rob Emerson ($16,000) def. Keita Nakamura ($5,000)
All the winning fighters received pay that awarded 50 percent "to show" and 50 percent as a "win bonus" -- except for Lesnar, who would have earned a $200,000 win bonus.

Now, the usual disclaimer: the figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker-room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.

In other words, these are simply base salaries reported to the NSAC and do not represent the total amounts earned by each fighter.

For complete coverage of the event, including the list of winners for fight-night bonuses, be sure to check out MMAjunkie.com's UFC 81 archives.

And here's the Mazzagatti interview: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...nkie&type=lgns

Rob 02-08-2008 06:34 PM

Seriously, one man got more than 1/4 of the total salary. This is insane.

Kris P Lettus 02-08-2008 07:00 PM

But, he is a huge draw to alot of people who aren't already fans of the UFC.. It'd be like Floyd Mayweather fighting at a PPV (and getting slaughter)..

Rob 02-08-2008 07:08 PM

Lesnar was unproven draw though.

Kris P Lettus 02-08-2008 07:28 PM

As would any proffesional athlete who is not an MMA fighter.. I mean, Kimbo fought Ray Mercer, who was like 44 at the time, and Mercer prolly made better money than all the other fighters on the card.. That ex-NFL WR (can't remember who it was ATM) fought and got destroyed, but I bet he banked on that one fight just because of namesake alone..

:-\

Innovator 02-08-2008 07:50 PM

Johnny Morton....85 seconds

Reavant 02-10-2008 12:57 PM

Andrei is going to destroy Jake Obrien... heard it here first haha

Kris P Lettus 02-10-2008 03:34 PM

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Kimbo is gonna destroy Tank in the first minute..

I'd put $100 on it..

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 02:43 AM

Urijah Faber is the motherfucking truth..

I wish UFC had a FeatherWeight division..

HeartBreakMan2k 02-13-2008 10:41 AM

Mirko Filipovic is leaving the UFC and joining a new MMA Promotion by the owner's of K1.

http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/02/...-k-1-tomorrow/

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 11:35 AM

Great..

He'll prolly be overhyped and quite disapointing there also..

Rob 02-13-2008 01:21 PM

Saw him fight twice live and twice he got humbled. I'm surprised he even still has marquee value.

RP 02-13-2008 03:02 PM

wait...dont he still have fights left on his contract?

RP 02-13-2008 03:13 PM

So UFC released him out of his contract...ok. That dont make sense. Even tho he's lost twice in a row, he's still a bigger draw then basically everyone in the Heavyweight division aside from Nog. They're sure as hell not resigning Arvolski. Its almost like they want to phase the Heavyweight division out.

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 03:19 PM

WTF

No way.. Not with Silvia, Lesnar, Mir, Gonzaga, etc etc etc..

RP 02-13-2008 03:27 PM

You mean, Boring, Unproven, Washed Up and Overated?

RP 02-13-2008 03:28 PM

Oh ya, and none of those guys can draw like Mirko. Maybe Lesnar, but only because of his WWE bs.

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 03:29 PM

Kimbo will be the Savior..

Rob 02-13-2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 2045962)
Oh ya, and none of those guys can draw like Mirko. Maybe Lesnar, but only because of his WWE bs.

Get your head out the clouds dude. Nobody in the States knows who the fuck Mirko Cro Cop is and when they saw the hype, he got totally humbled by Gonzaga. With his own finish I might add. And then Kongo bullied him for 3 rounds in London. He did nothing to deserve his contract. Should just retire and be done. His 3 fights didn't draw. Sorry they didn't.

RP 02-13-2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2045982)
Get your head out the clouds dude. Nobody in the States knows who the fuck Mirko Cro Cop is and when they saw the hype, he got totally humbled by Gonzaga. With his own finish I might add. And then Kongo bullied him for 3 rounds in London. He did nothing to deserve his contract. Should just retire and be done. His 3 fights didn't draw. Sorry they didn't.

Name me 3 Heavyweights that draw more then Cro Crop currently.

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 03:52 PM

Fedor, Couture, Lesnar

RP 02-13-2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2045999)
Fedor, Coutore, Lesnar

I was talking UFC obviously. Suprised you didnt realize that ( no i'm not ). Couture is retired and wont fight in UFC. Fedor isnt in UFC and you can say Lesnar, but lets be honest. He's only drawing because of his fake fighting.

I'm talking about current Heavyweights. Think of it like this. Say UFC has a main even with an opponent ( just random ) like Jeff Munson. Who draw more attention to that fight, Frank Mir, Kongo, Gonzaga, Sylvia, or Cro Crop?

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 03:57 PM

Mir ATM TBH

RP 02-13-2008 03:59 PM

You think Mir would draw more then Cro Crop in a fight against an average opponent? I disagree, but ok.

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 04:04 PM

Mir is much closer to a title fight and is on a two fight win streak (one against a uber hyped future HWC) while Cro Cop is on a two fight losing streak and is pretty much out the door..

You gotta think, prolly like 80% of American MMA fans have never seen PRIDE..

RP 02-13-2008 04:11 PM

Nah, i dont agree with the 80% thing. Cro Crop was one of the most recognizable in the sport in 2006. I dont disagree with Mir being closer to a title fight. I'm not saying anything about that. Obviously Cro Crop isnt close to a title fight cause he's not in UFC anymore. My point was, why release a guy thats a top 3 draw in your weakest division. Its not like they have better.

Innovator 02-13-2008 05:22 PM

Busty "The Bust" McBusterson

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 05:38 PM

Look, Cro Cop was supposed to be the "Savior" of the heavy weight division, but he wasn't.. UFC has never had a great Heavy Weight division, ever.. They've had some great fighters here or there but LHW was always the marquee division..

It's not that big of a deal that he is leaving TBH.. Couture leaving was much more devastating IMO..

Rob 02-13-2008 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 2045985)
Name me 3 Heavyweights that draw more then Cro Crop currently.

What does this prove? Only that UFC has heavyweights that don't draw. Sylvia and Lesnar are far bigger draws for a start. I'd argue Mir and Nog as well. The US fans now know Big Nog as the champ. That's more of a pull for a new star than anything Cro Cop did.

I would have loved Cro Cop to have been a huge star in the UFC but he blew it. Not anyone else. UFC pushed him like a superstar and he got fucked. He didn't even start training in a cage or using elbows on the floor until his third fight. HIS OWN FAULT.

RP 02-13-2008 06:43 PM

Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

Kris P Lettus 02-13-2008 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 2046169)
Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

That's right, people buy PPVs to watch Liddell, Rampage, Anderson Silva, GSP, etc etc etc..

Just as Rob said, I would have loved Cro Cop to come in a dominate but he didn't.. He didn't kill the weak division, just didn't save it..

Rob 02-13-2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conebone69 (Post 2046169)
Sylvia is not a bigger draw. Everyone boo's him cause he so boring. No one is buying a PPV to watch Sylvia fight.

Really? How come the shows he main events sell out and do better numbers on PPV than Cro Cop then? They didn't have faith to even put Cro Cop on PPV! One time! That was it. He main evented a free show and was KO'd and was mid card on a free show and was humbled!

HeartBreakMan2k 02-14-2008 06:34 AM

Supposedly the new promotion Mirko signed with (Dream) has signed a talent sharing deal with M-1. M-1 has Royce and Fedor signed. Rumor is the innagural DREAM show will be Mirko vs Fedor for the world title.

Fedor is an idiot if he takes this fight, it's a no win for him. If he stomps Mirko so what - Gonzaga did it. If he struggles... fuck, even Kongo stomped him.

Rob 02-14-2008 07:43 AM

Cro Crap is a joker saying he didn't run from UFC and doesn't like the cage.

HeartBreakMan2k 02-14-2008 07:48 AM

I agree whole heartedly. Cro Crop is running from the UFC, he doesn't like the cage cause he doesn't train for it, and he SHOULD be running from the UFC.

Reavant 02-14-2008 10:17 AM

no he trains for a cage... but the cage and the north american rules are not good for a fighter like cro cop

HeartBreakMan2k 02-14-2008 10:22 AM

He didn't start training with a cage until his last match is the information I had. That and he hates elbows.

Stickman 02-14-2008 12:25 PM

Cro Cop was not really a draw in the States just like Fedor would not be.

Reavant 02-14-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k (Post 2046868)
He didn't start training with a cage until his last match is the information I had. That and he hates elbows.

he started training in a cage after his match with gonzaga... and he didnt start even training for the north american rules until that time too which the main difference basically is the use of elbows.

Reavant 02-14-2008 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 2046990)
Cro Cop was not really a draw in the States just like Fedor would not be.

it would depend who fedor fought. if fedor were to fight randy in the ufc, it would probably be the biggest ppv they ever had. now that may be because of randy, but the ufc would also hype it like they did with rampage and liddell. By the time the ppv came everyone would know who fedor was and if he were to beat randy he would instantly be a draw. now if he were to fight anyone else in the division no one who is a casual fan would pay to see him.

Reavant 02-17-2008 04:22 PM

King Kimbo kills tank

Kris P Lettus 02-17-2008 11:03 PM

Anyone got a link to a video of that fight??

owenbrown 02-18-2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2051717)
Anyone got a link to a video of that fight??

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5H6C8DEaIO8

:cool:

Jura 02-18-2008 01:33 PM

I think Kimbo's beard absorbs the punches. It's like Sampson and his hair. I bet you if you shave it off then you can knock him out.

:shifty:

Stickman 02-18-2008 02:47 PM

I want to see Kimbo fight somebody decent.

HeartBreakMan2k 02-18-2008 03:40 PM

I'm sorry, if Kimbo were to fight a decent takedown artist I can't see him doing well. Kimbo has fought a bunch of washed up bums, no one important enough for me to think he has a ton of real talent.

Yes, I said Tank was a bum - deal with it.

Kris P Lettus 02-18-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k (Post 2052384)
I'm sorry, if Kimbo were to fight a decent takedown artist I can't see him doing well. Kimbo has fought a bunch of washed up bums, no one important enough for me to think he has a ton of real talent.

Yes, I said Tank was a bum - deal with it.

His non MMA fights proved he has talent..

He will beat some good fighters in the next year.. Bas Rutten wouldn't be fucking with him if he wasn't good..

I am hype about Anderson Silva vs Dan Henderson

Also, there is a live WEC event free on VS. on like March 26..

Urijah Faber :love:

HeartBreakMan2k 02-18-2008 06:20 PM

He also got beat by a scrub MMA fighter in a street fight because the guy broke out some Jits (including a standing guillotine). I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, I just don't think he can hang with a strong wrestler or a good jits guy. And I've seen list where people have him cracking top 15 and 20 in the world? Are people seriously that delusional?

I hope Dan Hendo wins, though I still think Anderson is amazing. WEC puts on some of the best shows period.

Reavant 02-18-2008 07:08 PM

kimbo has good movement and a ton of punching power but thats all he has shown as of yet and based off of that he would not beat very many successful hwt fighters.

Innovator 02-18-2008 07:20 PM

I can't wait for Silva vs. Hendo

Reavant 02-18-2008 10:56 PM

if anyone can beat silva its hendo.... if silva beats hendo tho i dot see anyone beating him for the next couple years

Kris P Lettus 02-19-2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeartBreakKid2k (Post 2052540)
He also got beat by a scrub MMA fighter in a street fight because the guy broke out some Jits (including a standing guillotine). I'm not saying he doesn't have talent, I just don't think he can hang with a strong wrestler or a good jits guy. And I've seen list where people have him cracking top 15 and 20 in the world? Are people seriously that delusional.

He fought Gannon a few years ago and it was by far his worst fight.. But that was before he was actually training to fight, let alone training for MMA with El Guapo..

I'm not saying he's gonna be of of the best of all time or that he won't get beat, but I think he'll put on some awesome matches and KO a bunch of guys in the next few years..

Rob 02-19-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 2053365)
if anyone can beat silva its hendo.... if silva beats hendo tho i dot see anyone beating him for the next couple years

I agree but I also thought the same about GSP and then Matt Serra knocked him the fuck out.

Reavant 02-19-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2053969)
I agree but I also thought the same about GSP and then Matt Serra knocked him the fuck out.

well yea theres always a chance of a freak occurance... i meant a dominating performance or at least a one sided performance by either fighter

Reavant 02-19-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2053851)
He fought Gannon a few years ago and it was by far his worst fight.. But that was before he was actually training to fight, let alone training for MMA with El Guapo..

I'm not saying he's gonna be of of the best of all time or that he won't get beat, but I think he'll put on some awesome matches and KO a bunch of guys in the next few years..

just wait till andrei comes over to elite xc and knocks him the fuck out!!!

Rob 02-20-2008 12:59 PM

Arlovski and Kimbo is so bad a mis match they should never allow it.

Kris P Lettus 02-22-2008 12:52 PM

I just saw a guy fighting in IFL that weighed 266lbs.. Is the 265 weight limit just for Nevada??

McLegend 02-22-2008 01:01 PM

for non title matches you are allowed to be 1 pound over

Rob 02-22-2008 06:09 PM

Cro Cop is saying he'll do 3 fights in Japan and then back to the UFC. :lol: That Gonzaga kick did more damage than thought.

Kris P Lettus 02-25-2008 04:26 PM

Dangerous Dan Henderson is on Rome is Burning right now on ESPN..

Rob 02-25-2008 05:45 PM

Can't wait for this fight.

Kris P Lettus 02-25-2008 08:07 PM

It was a good interview.. He talked about how MMA wasn't supposed to be his career but was just something to make money after his olympic appearance, how he feels more comfortable at 185lbs, the transition for ring to cage, how well UFC treats it's guys, and that Wanderlei and Rampage were the two hardest hitters he's fought.. He is mad humble and seems like a really good guy.. He laughed off Rome when talking about guys who hit hard b/c Henderson supposedly has a tough jaw.. He said he's just been lucky and works on not getting hit on "the spot"..

He is the man..

Rob 02-26-2008 06:50 PM

I'm officially tipping him to beat Silva. I've been going back and forth and really have no idea who is gonna win but I gotta back someone in my prediction stakes and I can't see Silva bullying Henderson like he has for others.

Crimson 02-26-2008 11:57 PM

Jardine/Wandy added to that already stacked May ppv.

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2008 01:02 AM

I hope Jardine destroys his face..

weather vane 02-27-2008 03:03 AM

GSP is a homo

Reavant 02-27-2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2062271)
I hope Jardine destroys his face..

not gonna happen
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 2062335)
GSP is a homo

ur a homo

weather vane 02-27-2008 01:54 PM

I hope he dies in a plane crash.

Rob 02-27-2008 02:10 PM

I hope you die in a plane crash.

weather vane 02-27-2008 03:15 PM

well that's not very nice

Rob 02-27-2008 04:02 PM

Sorry I thought it was the game.

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2008 09:04 PM

Man Rob, you were way out of line..

McLegend 02-27-2008 10:19 PM

--MMAjunkie.com has a report that CBS and Elite XC have reached an agreement for live prime time shows. The story said the shows would take place every other month. That is the deal UFC had been working on for months and may represent the most important MMA news since UFC got on Spike TV three years ago. While not in the story, the show is expected to be on Saturday nights.


So now the real question... How the fuck does UFC not get that deal done?

Seriosuly now.

Innovator 02-27-2008 11:18 PM

UFC Countdown on Spike....I'm so ready for this fight

Innovator 02-27-2008 11:19 PM

Also, LETS GO HERRING

Kris P Lettus 02-27-2008 11:21 PM

UFC doesn't need it TBH..

I mean, it'd be awesome, but I bet you a million dollars that CBS tries to gay it up and hires like Marv Albert to commentate or some shit..

Spike should just do live weekly events..

McLegend 02-27-2008 11:24 PM

Well Mart Albert is great, but doesn't work for CBS. So maybe they could get Gus Johnson to do it, which would be the greatest thing ever.

You will get a bigger audience which in theory would increase PPV revenue for the future. I think it's a mistake they didn't get it done.

Innovator 02-28-2008 10:35 AM

Fights announced for May UFC card:

BJ Penn vs. Sean Sherk

Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva

Tito "please don't make me fight I wanna do the apprentice!" Ortiz vs. Machida

Rob 02-28-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 2062925)
Man Rob, you were way out of line..

Why?

HeartBreakMan2k 02-28-2008 05:30 PM

I think I've finally settled on my prediction for Hendo/Silva - Going with Hendo in the third.

Reavant 02-28-2008 10:53 PM

MAIN CARD

Champ Anderson Silva vs. Dan Henderson--I pick Hendo by a big right after a spinning backfist
Heath Herring vs. Cheick Kongo -- I have visions of herring curling up into a ball as he is getting beaten
Chris Leben vs. Alessio Sakara-- The only reason this fight is on the main card is because Andrei wouldnt resign when Dana flew out to chicago 2 weeks ago to give him a contract... ill go leban what the hell
Yushin Okami vs. Evan -- I want tanner but ill go Okami
Jon Fitch vs. Chris Wilson --Fitch
PRELIMINARY CARD

Andrei Arlovski vs. Jake O’Brien -- Andrei
Luke Cummo vs. Luigi Fioravanti -- Im too lazy too look them up Ill go Luigi
Dustin Hazelett vs. Josh Koscheck -- Koz
David Bielkheden vs. Diego Sanchez -- Diego
Jorge Gurgel vs. John Halverson -- Again too lazy umm Gurgel

Crimson 02-28-2008 11:30 PM

Card doesn't look too strong...but the main event is sweet. I can't see Silva losing so i'll take him. As long as the rest are good fights I don't care who wins.

Kris P Lettus 02-29-2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 2063600)
Why?

Sarcasm..

RP 03-01-2008 11:33 AM

i just ordered tonights ppv

I'm not ruling out Dan Henderson yet. He's got the right tools to possibly beat Silva. If Silva knocks Henderson out though, no one will ever beat Silva. I cant imagine Silva knocking Hendo out. Hendo has one of the toughest chins in the world. What an interesting fight. I cant wait.

Kris P Lettus 03-01-2008 11:59 AM

I like both fighters but am def pulling for Henderson..

Stinkfist 03-01-2008 12:15 PM

Kongo shouldnt get a title shot if he wins this

Kris P Lettus 03-01-2008 01:26 PM

I have a small request from one of you fine chaps..

Could someone PM me a link to the Henderson/Silva fight sometime after it happens??

I'm really looking forward to it, but have to work and I'd like to see it unspoiled..

Rep for life to anyone who helps me out..

RP 03-01-2008 05:25 PM

tvsitcoms.com usually has it up within 24 hours after

Rob 03-01-2008 07:18 PM

For some reason, I've got the feeling Silva will take this now and had it not been too late to change my prediction, I probably would have.

Danny Electric 03-01-2008 08:23 PM

There's some strong fighters on that Undercard.

HeartBreakMan2k 03-01-2008 11:00 PM

Well... I guess it doesn't get easier to be Brock Lesnar.


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