There's a bunch of good TE's..you can't really rank 'em..we haven't even mentioned Heap, V-Davis, and Bubba Franks! :shifty:

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Eli has been playing quite well this year actually. In recent years, I really don't think they incorporated Shockey enough, tbh.

Cooley is a good TE. Shockey doesn't suck at blocking. He used to, but he has vastly improved from when he came into the league.

WHO DAT?!?

Seriously, who calls the plays? Payton or an OC? whoever it is should just be fired tonight.

That and I think Brees has something wrong, his skills have always (back to SD) been to good to be throwing the crap he's been throwing.

by the way, before NO tries another "trick play" they may want to work on basic things like quick slants and running the ball.

oh yeah, and thank you to "mr. monday night" Keith Bulluck for saving the "under" for me when clearly a saints score would have done nothing at that point but fucked up my bet :)

alright VEL we get it, you bet on the NFL. So do I and millions of other people

Kellen Winslow is a great TE, stupid solider comments or not

Why yes, this must be my 100th post in this thread about betting... :roll:

by the way, I hope you haven't been betting on the Jets each week.

No fucking way...

Eat a sack of dicks, Vel..

more intelligent response that we'd expect from you Krispy..

How about "I was wrong, my team sucks right now"

naah, that just wouldn't be you.

The Saints are once again the "A'ints"

on a serious note, Brees looks way off which makes me wonder if there is an injury we don't know about because his accuracy has been off all year.

and ESPN is reporting torn ACL done for season, the Saints denied the report which may just be them trying to control the story, on the other hand it wouldn't be the first time ESPN blew something like this and had it wrong.

Well, technically Cooley is an H Back.....TH BEST H BACK!

WHO DAT?

This post made me think about this clip

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While yeah lately you have been slipping it in a ton like anybody cares

And no rule #1 of sports betting, don't let your personal bias get in the way of your bets

I'm officially announcing the Rams as my secondary team to root for this year.

I think all of there starting offensive line is out with injuries. Bulger is playing with broken ribs. Steven Jackson is out this week. I dont recall one team thats been more banged up with injuries then the Rams have this year. Its really frightening. The Rams could possibly be starting a CFL team by mid season. Its almost a sure bet that Leonard Little is gunna drive drunk and kill one of his own players. Its just that kinda season for them.

If i could inject a shot of Bob Sanders into the Rams, i would.

I still have no idea what you're talking about... but I'll be sure to check my posts with you to make sure it's about the Jets or something else that interests you.

Also, since I've been talking about it soooo much and you have this idea that I'm betting on personal Bias rather then what I think's a good bet, could you give me an example?

oh and just cause I thought maybe I'm so tired lately I've been talking a lot about nfl betting and don't realise it... I just looked and I've mentioned it twice in this thread... so... guess that's "slipping it in a ton" in your book... :roll:

personal Lynn Bias

Anyone who makes a list of top 5 TEs in the NFL and doesn't mention Jason Witten need some serious help.

Ouch, Deuce really is out for the year. Two 0-3 teams, both with injured running backs, both teams had huge expectations for the year. Damn. I feel ya Krispy.

How are you trying to take the high road when you are the one talking shit, you greasy tub of virgin??

Brees has looked like shit b/c our O-line has played like shit.. He can not drop back and make the big plays when there are d-linemen in his face as soon as the ball is snapped..

Deeeeuuuuce..

:(

Greasy tub of virgin

:lol:

That Colts game ruined the Saints. Had they not let that game get so out of control, I believe that they wouldn't be in the situation they are in right now. I don't think that it is COMPLETELY over for them just yet, although it more than likely is. The NFC South is going to be tougher than most people realize, so getting behind this early, even if they improve their pace, is probably going to cost them in the long run.

Let me just say this: I think that Jason Campell is the most under-rated quarterback in the NFL right now. He is more than capable of taking the Redskins to the playoffs, although hopefully only as a wildcard if nothing else. *knock on wood*

The NFL Network's Adam Schefter has confirmed that Brian Griese will start at quarterback Sunday for the Chicago Bears.

Seasons over. Bears win the Super Bowl.

:shifty:

^

LOL, that's interesting. Especially after the conferences with "We started out at blah blah blah with our Quarterback, Rex Grossman.", "We're staying with Grossman.", "Grossman is our guy.", etc.

Even so...I'm curious to see how it'll play out.

About fucking time.

Game starts, Griese throws an incomplete pass

HERE COMES GROSSMAN!!!!!!!!!!!

Grossman throws 3 INTS

Lovie ''Rex is our QB, hes starting next week''

I say the top 5 TEs IMO are

1. Gates (hes def a step above the rest)
2. Gonzo
3. Heap
4. Crumpler
5. Witten/Shockey tie

Owen Daniels of the Texans I think could really become an elite TE one day.

Same for V-Davis

Who finally convinced Lovie Smith to pull Grossman?

Some Bears fans with guns.

ahh yes, good'ol Krispy... always being persecuted on here... must be difficult typing when you're always nailing yourself to the cross.

I made accurate, non-insulting comments on how the Saints are playing right now, you respond with "eat dicks" and yet, somehow I'm the one "talking shit".

same'ol Krispy... the world on the internet is out to get you so act like a tough guy rather then being able to hold a conversation.. :roll:

Heres what i predict will happen with this whole Bears thing. Grossman gets benched. Griese comes in for a couple games and is pretty much average then he gets seriously injured and Grossman will come in and start lighting it up like Good Rex. Then Bad Rex will show back up in the playoffs.

A lot of contracts ban certain "risk sports" that players can do Ski'ing, auto racing etc...

Think Griese prevents him from owning a dog?

Michael Vick smoked weed; everybody already knew that but now ESPN has something new to have 20 SportsCenter specials and an ESPN Town Meeting about

MICHAEL VICK SMOKED WEED!!!!!!!!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?

"Tonight on Sports Center...Michael Vick smoked weed "

"Tommorow on Sports Center... Will there be further punishment for Michael Vick after he smoked a weed joint "

"Tonight on Outside the lines... The links between Michael Vick smoking weed and Chris Benoit having concussions and making his family tap out. Special Guest Chris Nowitski joins us."

"Tonight on Baseball tonight... Pennate chases and oh btw...Michael Vick smokes weed "

"Budweiser Hot Seat welcomes The Zig Zag man. Zig Zag, how many times were you smoked by Michael Vick? "

" Roger Federer took on Andy Roddick in the quarter finals. First set Roddick serves, Michael Vick smokes weed, game point Federer. Second set..."

" Tiger Woods teeing up on hole 17, hits it wide right into the ( Michael Vick smoking ) trees. He'd recover and birdie the hole. "

Tomorrow on ESPN First Take. Howie Schaub loves his potato chips like Mike Vick does his weed. Also on 1st and 10 Skip Bayless and Steven A. Smith debate Lebron James and Michael Vick smoking weed. Also Danny Bonaduce will stop by to tell us the dangers of smoking weed like Mike Vick does.

I heard the Bears players wanted Kyle Orton to start instead of Griese because he was more liked and had a better attitude, but didnt Orton put up Grossman type numbers when he was the starter for several games back in 05???

I think that when Orton was at the helm the Bears were 9-1. I might be wrong though.

He also had a QB rating of 59.7

Honestly though, can't be any worse than Rex Grossman.

sure he can

he can be Eli Manning

BAZING

Kyle Orton is from Purdue so he'll probably be good.

Kyle Orton<Randy Orton<RANDY p Orton<>

Think he'd get fined if he did the Randy Orton pose every time he scored a TD?

(remember, this is the Bears offense, so he may not even get to do it once a game!)

That would be the best thing EVER.

lol just remembered the Redskins 4th quarter this week :love:

I think Denver will actually put up a fight this week. I think this could be a tuff game. Then again i think Cutler may be exposed in this game also.

I think the Colts win in a shootout. Last yrs game was good last yr I remember as the Colts won in Denver by a last sec FG.

Cutler is a beast

I'll be at the Rockies Game to avoid seeing the Broncs get beaten

I love the Broncos offense. Cutler has some good weapons with Walker and Marshall. Travis Henry is a top 10 RB in the league IMO when hes healthy, but hes very injury prone.

Who to start on fantasy? Garcia or Bulger? Got Garcia rite now.

So, Wilfork got fined... doesn't make sense to me simply because a camera angle clearly shows his feet were tripped and he fell forword, wasn't a dive. but whatever...

I love this new lawsuit... some lawyers are suing the pats for all the Jets season ticket holders for a refund of that game.

I think they should check if it hasn't been too long and sue the Broncos and 49'ers for when they were caught playing games with the cap and having more players making more then they should have...

or how about fans sue the ref that screwed up the heads/tails call with the steelers?

awaits a RP flip out about how the Pats are cheaters and none of their superbowls counts blah, blah, blah...

How bad is Jacksons tare?

He's week to week, but pretty suuuree he's missing next week too. Leonard is gonna get a lot of carries I think, I dunno. Marc has broken ribs. Against the Cowboys. Garcia playing the Panthers. DUNNO WHO TO START.

Bulger did awful last week. Garcia has been decent lately as the Bucs have won 2 in a row. Id go with Garcia.

Yeah, most probably sticking with Garcia. I expect the Ram fan to take over in me though, and make Bulger my starter before Sunday. Hopefully not though.

Yeah, you should probably go Garcia.

Dallas' defense allows a decent amount of big plays but they also get alot of picks...

Garcia it is.

Go with Bulger

I heard on the radio that the NFL Flex Scheduling kicks in Week 8. Which would mean the Pats vs Colts game could still be a primetime game, but as scheduled now, that game is Dallas vs Philly

And i always say, " Fuck Dallas vs Philly ".

can they move it to monday night or just the sunday night slot?

Just Sunday from what I've heard..

Fuck Pats/Colts im sick and tired of that rivalry..out with the old in with the new..put all the Cowboys games on!

No, I can't stand watching the Cowboys on Sunday night or Monday, which is too bad since 75% of their games are during those times.

What difference does it make if the Colts/Patriots game is on Sunday night? It's still going to be the national afternoon game no matter what.

Well, the bills are pretty much done for the year, so Im packing it in. Its going to be a rough season the rest of the way, we are going to be destroyed by Dallas on the monday night game.

In lighter news, I am FUCKING KILLING in the TPWW Fantasy League. I have shit for a second RB, so Basically I am Riding the Kitna or Favre train to the end. I do have the best WRs in the league though, Boldin, Steve Smith and Torry Holt. Add in Wes Welker on the Utility player, and Randle El on the bench (return pounts baby) and its on,

Falcons 0-3 Saints 0-3 Rams 0-3 Giants 1-2 Bengals 1-2. Everyones favprate teams are fighting for an early draft pick and look whos winning :)

The Rams will beat the Cowboys tommorrow.

The St.Louis Rams will go 0-16

Rams first win: Cardinals Oct 7

even though i probably picked the rams this week in Pick Them

This is the first week that I didn't.

No the Rams will go 1-15. Now the Falcons we'll go 0-16 :)

Tony Thromo to the other team :love:

Wow, Baltimore

Oh yeah and Favre broke some record

lolllll rams

LOL the kicker from the Rams missed a 28 yard kick

Jesus Lions trying to lose so bad

lol can someone telle me how the Rams did not score when they were on the cowboys 2 yard line

X FAKTOR

ROMO MANIA

WTF!

the playclock was counting down and it was at 2 when all of the sudden it just went off and the cowboys took at least 3 seconds to get the playoff but nothing was called