There also seems to be a special edition in Europe as well as the poster/rupee case on the previous page. The special addition is said to come with this ocarina and woodlike pen:
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I've not seen any official word from Nintendo on any of these extras and I can't see them on any shop sites. The game is less than a month away. I'd thought they'd have these officially announced or up for preorder by now.

Nintendo Greece is giving away these for preordering:
"Genuine" Deku seeds in a can.
http://www.nintendo.gr/Upload/image/Deku%20Tree1.JPG

3DS slipcase:
http://www.nintendo.gr/Upload/image/..._Pouches_1.jpg

The above ocarina (minus the pen)

A cap:
http://www.nintendo.gr/Upload/image/ZoT%20Cap1.JPG

And this keyring:
http://www.nintendo.gr/Upload/image/Keyrings1.JPG

Going to go dig around and see what country is being given what bonus. US is getting a poster and nothing else, I've read.

All that above is Greece only. We're getting the poster and a gold game sleeve.

http://www.destructoid.com/uk-pre-or...t-201252.phtml

Fucking Greeks :mad:

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Nintendo released a list of about 20ish DSiWare games that won't be transferable to the 3DS although Nintendo didn't rule out making them possible in the future with a few already confirmed to be having their own 3DS version (ex. Flipnote).

Earthworm Jim not being transferable might be more related to Interplay potentially closing as a company than other issues.

Also announced was the US eShop is still set for June 3 and comes with a few more free goodies originally meant to be released in the delayed updates.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/117/1172210p1.html
http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAt...-eShop-details

Good, so this is the colour I'l be getting if/when it comes out in the UK. A UK shop had it up on it's sight before the 3DS even launched so I'd assume it would come out here.

http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/ass...06/firered.jpg

Yoshii confirmed to be an Easter egg for the Metal Gear Solid 3D: Snake Eater game. It would make it the 2nd MGS game in a row on a Nintendo platform the dinosaur has appeared in with Twin Snakes being the first.

Most likely he is just going to replace the hidden toy frogs in the game but Konami as a joke didn't deny it wasn't possible to eat him.

Also not answered is what happens to the 3D effect later in the game due to something happening to Snake in the original version

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/as...shi_mgs_01.jpg
http://kotaku.com/5810150/can-snake-...wouldnt-answer

Losing the 3D would be retarded. May as well get the HD collection if that happened.

It's probably a production gag as the MGS series tends to do. They like to poke fun at the fact that MGS is really just a game.

Hey, tech support question for you owners out there.

I got my mom a 3DS for her birthday a few weeks back, got mine at launch. I updated my system to get the internet browser and shop without a problem a couple nights ago. Tried to do my mom's just now and I can't get no connection. The catch is, all the bars are blue on the home screen. But when i go into the settings menu, they all go grey. When I try to update, it starts and the bars are back to blue, but 5 seconds later the bars go back to grey.

I'm thinking hardware issue, but I'm just curious if anybody else is having a problem before I go to Nintendo on this. Any help is of course appreciated.

Are you doing it on the same router as you did your update? If not, I'm betting it's a port issue.

You'll need to find out how to open ports for the router if that is the case.

Yeah, I am.

I ended up using the DNS number nintendo gives you on their support website. It works, but I get cut off around 75% completion. Gonna try again in a little while.

In fact, that's pretty much all they do.

Just bought OoT. Was food shopping after 6 pints and was a bit of an impulse buy, but the smirk on my face during just the intro is 3D is ridiculous. All I see on videogame sites right now is that the 3DS only has ports that are good and I would totally agree.

I was tempted to sell it after E3. But I've now realised after starting this, if it makes me smile while I play, why would I complain?

Square-Enix is holding a contest for a rare collectors edition 3DS that will have their upcoming Heroes of Ruin logo on it to go along with an Onyx Black color scheme.

The contest lasts until July 31 and is being held on their Heroes of Ruin game website with only 1 winner receiving the 3DS as a prize.

The only catch is the contest is available only for the US and Canada.

http://cdn2.netops.eidosinteractive....n_3ds_comp.jpg
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-nintendo-3ds/

I played a 3DS for the first time a couple weeks ago. It was Pilot Wings Resort and my eyes just couldn't adjust to the 3D at full blast. Turned it down to a lower level but ended up leaving the shop (ASDA) a bit disapointed in the 3DS.

Tried it again at GAME yesterday with SSFIV3D with the 3D set to full and it worked like a charm. I was quite impressed. I thought the 3D would have made everything pop out but it makes the game look "deeper", like it has multiple layers.

I couldn't adjust to Pilot Wings in 3D but SSFIV's 3D was natural. So, is it as case of ASDA having a crappy 3DS or does the ease of adjusting to the 3D vary from game to game?

Not played Pilotwings, but I had SSF4 and Zelda maxed 3D at all times and was fine with it.

It probably is just ASDAs 3DS being wrecked by someone at some point.

Nah not ASDA's 3DS... I tried Pilotwings in both ASDA and GAME both were horrible, tried Nintendogs too which was better...
Before you said that Street Fighter was so much better i'd lost all faith in the 3DS...
I'll have to give it a shot somewhere.

Yeah, Street Fighter is much better than Pilot Wings.
With PW on maximum 3D, it was just a blur I couldn't focus on and my eyes would keep freaking out. With SFIV on the same 3D setting, it was easy, instant and comfortable.

I think that's just because of the difference in view point. Flying forward in 3d is a lot harder for your eyes to process than a 2d plane converted to 3d.

At least I would imagine so.

I'm not sure the ingame view point would make a difference. It's still two 2D images being fired from different directions into my eyes.

Fairly large price cut coming, at least in the US. 30% off down to $169.99 from August 12th.

They're doing something for early adopters too, whatever that might be.

Early adopters get 10 free NES games and 10 free GBA games. The GBA games including Yoshi’s Island: Super Mario Advance 3, Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Metroid Fusion, WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$ and Mario vs. Donkey Kong. NES games include Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong Jr., Balloon Fight, Ice Climber and The Legend of Zelda.

Nice price drop. Might get one of these eventually.

Needs a redesign, tbh. Too compact, even for Nintendo.

Wasn't that the original price of the DS (and all the revisions)?

If anything it now provides a bigger gap away from the Vita which could kill off some of its steam after Sony announced the lower model was the same price as the 3DS.

It could also have a side effect of making the Wii U cheaper than what Nintendo originally wanted so that the Wii U doesn't have the slow sales like the 3DS initially had.

You mean, it provides a stopgap measure in response to the bombshell Sony dropped on them.

Sales were already short of projections by a significant number. They're already kind of failing without direct competition, and the price point on the PSP Aqua Velva was just insult to injury. They already had to do something, regardless of the PSP Vittles. This may have upped the price cut, but even that's questionable.

I get the spin, but Sony's the lagging brand up against the reigning champ, and I have trouble imagining this has a serious impact on Sony's momentum at this point.

Though this does kinda make me regret buying a DSiXL so recently. Paying 250 for a technology I have no interest in using to play ports of old titles I didn't buy on the last ten platforms they were released for isn't my idea of a good buy. But at a more reasonable price, the backwards compatability alone would have been ice to replace my former unit.

HEY DRAKUL
 

Flame Red Nintendo 3DS drops on September 9th in the US, so Europe will probably be shortly after that.

Cool. I'll probably get it if money permits. Hopefully it'll be part of the price cut.

I don't want the black and blue 3DS at, say, £130 and the red one is £170.

The new UK price of the 3DS is £139.99.

Nintendo needed a better gimmick this time.

Not entirely. The DS started just as slow, both in sales and a dearth of games and it wasn't until the second holiday when it started picking up. However, the initial price was a huge barrier to entry for families that have Wii's and DS's in this economy.

There's new Mario and Mario Kart along with a new, lower price coming out before Christmas. If they're still failing into the new year, serious questions will need to be asked internally.

Currently £115 on Amazon and at Tesco. Morrisson's have it for £120 with all games at £25.

Oh sweet Jesus, would Jim Sterling like a word with you.

Suffice to say the DS didn't quite sell as bad, that's an excuse. Making excuses about launch titles is a dumb idea, since it really hasn't been a factor before. The difference? Counting on the same old in a recession.

Further, if this were really the case, if things were business as usual, none of what's happened would be happening. A price cut, a profit forecast of doom for the company, and Iwata's paycut demonstrate just how marked a difference there is.

And yes, price was a good chunk of that, but that came from hubris based on a response of interest from the consumer. They actually thought 3D would carry that price tag, and that's a pretty big issue that's hard to excuse.

Has, I didn't peg you for an apologist. If (not when, before some whiny faggot dregs up this post in a year) the PSP Vita does well at launch, what will be the excuse?

They had to play damage control on launch week sales, even. It's a GOOD thing that we're not sold out, they said. That was Sony's excuse for the PS3. Well, one of them. They also trumped up sales and such, which is Nintendo's current shtick.

So...Apologise away, I guess. It might make you feel better, but the 3DS is in trouble. I know you were fellating the thing for months before release, but apologetics is another thing entirely.

Justifying your buy?

Not really, it's just how I see it all. I've already sold mine. It can burn in hell for all I care, then I can re-pick one up cheap and have new Mario and Mario Kart and I'll be a happy bunny.

They've said it's below expectations, but it just needs a strong holiday to pick it back up. unfortunately for them, they've taken the loss leader business practice so it's going to need to be a strong holiday with a high attach rate.

Vita though, if that thing launches in March like is rumoured, I would put money on it having a strong opening month and then dropping off the map until Christmas.

So far I enjoy the 3ds. Faster web browser than the DSI, Netflix, and Zelda is pretty cool. Not too stoked with most of the titles, but I'm looking forward to Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and the new Mario game.

Have spare cash right now to buy a 3DS..but I looked at the calendar of releases and there isn't much coming out much. I love the Nintendo games coming but some stronger third party support would be nice :-\

How is this thing on the eyes? Does it give you headaches or anything after a while?