TPWW Forums

TPWW Forums (https://www.tpwwforums.com/index.php)
-   sports forum (https://www.tpwwforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   MLB Thread (https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=126275)

Droford 11-12-2015 10:31 PM

mlb-trade-rumors-chris-davis-not-gonna-happen-lol-still-funny

Tigers fan page view on likelihood of signing Davis

Frank Drebin 11-12-2015 10:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nothing finalized, but lots of buzz <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bluejays?src=hash">#Bluejays</a>, Estrada nearing 2-yr deal in $24M-$29M range. Would mean not taking $15.8M qualifying offer</p>&mdash; Joel Sherman (@Joelsherman1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/664999902833999872">November 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems a bit much for a guy that has yet to pitch 200 innings in a season. I guess thats the going rate for a "dependable #4" starter?

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-12-2015 11:11 PM

Yeah that's too much for 2 years. Seems like a panic/sentimental move. I do know that Lacava (along with AA) had a lot of stock in Estrada and they had been scouting him for some time. Similar to what they did with Bautista. Taking a big low odds chance. You can just hope this past year wasn't a fluke.

Frank Drebin 11-12-2015 11:56 PM

You just get worried that since Toronto traditionally doesn't have a huge budget that a deal like this could hinder them for the next couple of years by not allowing them to add that extra piece or for them to not be able to go the extra mile for David Price. Teams like the Yanks, Boston, LA and even the Angels and Cubs can afford to absorb some shit deals but not so much Toronto. It still seems like yesterday Venon Wells' contract crippled the franchise.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-13-2015 05:06 AM

Well their budget is top 10 as of now so they have been spending and they realize this is their window to be aggressive, so we'll see

screech 11-13-2015 05:59 AM

Might be better if he takes the qualifying offer lol

screech 11-13-2015 10:04 AM

Phillies reportedly want Marcell Ozuna. I'd be on board with that for the right price.

Evil Vito 11-13-2015 11:06 AM

<font color=goldenrod>It would be hilarious if the Marlins went to great lengths to keep Ozuna in AAA for a good chunk of this year just to extend his service time/delay his arbitration eligibility only to then immediately trade him to a division rival.</font>

Nicky Fives 11-13-2015 12:24 PM

Rasmus was smart to accept the offer, I wouldn't have even offered it to him....

screech 11-13-2015 12:54 PM

Did not realize no one accepted the offer before him.

Damian Rey 11-13-2015 03:55 PM

Wieters accepts qualifying offer from Baltimore. Good for both sides imo.

screech 11-13-2015 05:11 PM

Blue Jays re-sign Estrada: 2 years, $26 million

Damian Rey 11-13-2015 05:35 PM

Meh.

Brett Anderson has accepted the Dodgers' qualifying offer. That's the third player to accept. Can't imagine general managers and owners are excited about this. Draft pick compensation is dumb to begin with, but maybe now that the owners are finally gonna get punched in the wallet for the dumb Mets system, maybe there's a mutual agreement between union and owners that dramatically changes or eliminated draft compensation.

Damian Rey 11-13-2015 08:16 PM

Padres send Kimbrel to the bosox for a package of prospects, including Manuel Margot, a top 100 outfield prospect. Excellent move.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-13-2015 08:19 PM

That could make a huge difference in the al east

Emperor Smeat 11-13-2015 09:02 PM

Quote:

The Boston Red Sox have acquired four-time National League All-Star closer Craig Kimbrel from the San Diego Padres in exchange for several prospects.

The Padres receive outfielder Manuel Margot, shortstop Javier Guerra, infielder Carlos Asuaje and left-hander Logan Allen.
Seems like the Red Sox gave up too much but some depth at the setup/closer role is good. Especially after how bad it got once Uehara got hurt and Tazawa fell apart near the end of the season.

road doggy dogg 11-13-2015 09:27 PM

Part of me is secretly hoping that Kimbrel in Boston ends up like every closer DD tried to bring into Detroit.

Emperor Smeat 11-13-2015 09:40 PM

At this point, wouldn't be surprised if this backfired. Way too many seasons recently where Sox pitching killed any hopes of a good season.

Damian Rey 11-14-2015 01:19 AM

Taking my love for the Padres out of it, from a process standpoint, it's a terrible move for Boston. Even if you think Boegarts and Betts are you future long term ss and cf, you just traded two players at those positions with massive major league upsidefor a guy who will cost at least $24 million to throw maybe 120 innings. You then also gave up a possible major league second baseman and starting pitcher to boot.

It's the kind of trade Dombrowski is known for, and the type of trade Boston fans should fear. Those four players could've netted an ace, or a few arms that would be upgrades, but instead gave up 4 players, who even if they end up mediocre major leaguers, will provide more aggregate value than Kimbrel every could. Hell, if only the shortstop or centerfielder work out, it's a bum trade for Boston.

ClockShot 11-14-2015 07:05 AM

Think Dombrowski overpaid for Kimbrel on this. 2 Prospects and a bag of cash probably would have done the trick.

road doggy dogg 11-14-2015 12:32 PM

Welcome to the Dombrowski era!

Damian Rey 11-14-2015 12:52 PM

Have read reports that had it only been Margot (cf) or Guerra(ss), it still would've been a bad trade.

Nicky Fives 11-14-2015 02:24 PM

Red Sox definitely overpaid, but doesn't hurt my feelings, they can eat a big bag of dicks all season long....

ClockShot 11-14-2015 04:07 PM

Phillies send Sam McWilliams to Arizona for Jeremy Hellickson.

Damian Rey 11-14-2015 05:09 PM

Who would ever want an increasingly extensive Jeremy Hellickson? I don't know why teams don't take the Cubs' approach, signing solid vets and flipping them at the deadline.

screech 11-14-2015 07:12 PM

I don't love the move, but I'd rather have Hellickson than Williams/Harang/Billingsley/Buchanan.

screech 11-14-2015 07:12 PM

Also I really hope Jeff Francouer comes back. Love that dude.

Droford 11-14-2015 08:33 PM

Boston could use pieces that will allow them to actually get to the 9th in a save situation to use Kimbrel

DaveWadding 11-14-2015 10:10 PM

Jeremy Hellickson is a tire fire.

Damian Rey 11-14-2015 11:29 PM

Droford making sense for once.

Nicky Fives 11-16-2015 02:19 AM

What the Hell happened to Hellickson, the kid was money a while back....

Damian Rey 11-16-2015 09:23 AM

He actually wasn't. He just had really good, unsustainable luck. ERA and run prevention indicators had rated him below average for years. Just finally caught up with him.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-16-2015 05:25 PM

Damn you and your analytics D Ray.

ClockShot 11-16-2015 07:05 PM

Kris Bryant and Carlos Correa are your Rookies of the Year.

Mariners get Leonys Martin and Anthony Bass from the Rangers for James Jones and Tom Wilhelmsen.

Evil Vito 11-17-2015 02:00 PM

<font color=goldenrod>There is growing sentiment that the Marlins will trade Jose Fernandez this offseason.

lol god that franchise is such a trainwreck</font>

road doggy dogg 11-17-2015 02:03 PM

Suddenly I wish we had Dombrowski still

Evil Vito 11-17-2015 02:04 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Big Papi has announced that 2016 will be his final season.

Might explain the "win-now" move that was the Kimbrel trade. Papi is still the heart and soul of that franchise.</font>

screech 11-17-2015 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4731636)
<font color=goldenrod>There is growing sentiment that the Marlins will trade Jose Fernandez this offseason.

lol god that franchise is such a trainwreck</font>

I would welcome him to Philadelphia with open arms. Package him with Ozuna for two cheesesteaks and 50 soft pretzels.

Droford 11-17-2015 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4731641)
<font color=goldenrod>Big Papi has announced that 2016 will be his final season.

Might explain the "win-now" move that was the Kimbrel trade. Papi is still the heart and soul of that franchise.</font>

http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/d529ji.gif

Please give him the busted phone as a farewell gift...please..

weather vane 11-17-2015 07:02 PM

Haha love Pedroia


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:03 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®