1.59 million for RAW

Not surprising at all seeing as how there were two high quality (at least on paper) Monday night football games.

It'll jump back up to 2 next week

Pretty rough number. Triple H’s product seems more vulnerable to NFL switchover than Vince’s.

Is WWE dead?

Just #2 by a distinct margin to the much preferred AEW.

I don’t follow American football. I’m not sure if this is a special occasion or anything, but I’m getting the vibe there is a lot of “general interest” floating around Triple H’s product, but it hasn’t hardened into fan loyalty. Yet. But he should probably think about how sticky his product is versus just riding this wave of shock debuts/returns, etc.

there are people that will shell out $200 / month ONLY to watch US Football and eschew all other viewing habits. it's rabid fanaticism, just as bad, if not worse, than soccer hooliganism.

Don’t forget super high level creative genius kidnapping/stalker angles that have always drawn huge.

Dale always wanted a stalker but nobody cared about him enough. Now we bear witness to the resulting salt.

What are you talking about? Drave stalks me all the time ranting about how much I love Bret The Shitman Shart.

You do love the Shitman.

Just saying. I'm important enough for a stalker.

Drave is a shining beacon in these troubling times of TPWW. He can stalk who he wants.

Now I’m just picturing him as Dexter Lumis

I could do it. Mohawk instead of the blonde slick over tho.

All I gotta do is put on some Bret Shart promos. It will draw Dale in from anywhere.




Downside.... I'll be asleep by the time he arrives.






NEW PLAN!

It’s fucking disgusting.

Wasn’t Dexter Lumis with a mohawk just Crimson?

Question: is the ratings gap on par with previous week 2 MNF games? Doesnt feel like this is a reflection on the product but tradition. Has wrestling not dropped against the NFL in the last 20 or so years? This is an earnest question

Always has.

The drop seems bigger this year though. I don’t know if it is, but a reported 1.59 seems very low.

The question specifically i would have isnt the final number but drop vs drop. If the ytd viewer is lower pre drop then the nfl hit would obviously be lower. But if we say they lost 1mil last year and 1 mil this year then its the same nfl fans coming and going as usual.

The only difference is they did it in week 2 this year instead of week 1 like they always did before.

Well the week 1 game was a nail bitter. Typically ratings are about what happened last week and not this week (because how could they not be)

Bills vs Titans was set to be a pretty monumental game.

And even when it became clear it wasn't a contest, watching Josh Allen go to work is still more entertaining than Bianca with henchwomen vs Damage Control.

Peacock is getting some games too, even on their $5 tier. As more people cut the cord and move to more accessible ways to watch, I expect it to get hit even harder.

1.03 for Dynamite.

Ouch.

Down but still over 1 million. You’d probably have expected 1.1 mil for a show that was hyped to the max and had a guaranteed World Title change on it. You can probably be happy with this number compared to other AEW numbers in a vacuum, but it doesn’t bode well for the product being hot or going anywhere. We’re probably back down to <1 mil next week.

I am not sure what is more random, them being up last week or them being down this week.

I think it’s them being up last week. That actually seems to be something of an anomaly. This week they just didn’t hype a show that drew any more interest than that.

This week had four title matches (although Jericho versus Claudio wasn't really hyped for very long) and an expected MJF promo. Tops in the 18-54 demographic.

The big issue is that they went against the major networks and their season premieres like The Conners and The Goldbergs for ABC and NBC had their season premieres of the Chicago Series.

CBS had Survivor debut and Fox had the season premiere of the Masked Singer.


All things considered, I'd consider the 1.03 to be a huge success actually.

No. Even without debuts of shows, they've shown consistently that this is where they will float.


Next week, without "debuts" their number will either stay flat or go down. I'm not a ratings nerd or anything like that, just looking at historical data.

AEW WAS ON TV WITH OTHER SHOWS THIS WEEK, OTHERWISE MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE WATCHED! #LFG!!!!!!!!!!!

Premieres are a big night for TV. Its a leg up these shows have over year round wrestling.

Over a schmilly again. That’s very good. RIP WWE.

I think a year ago i said these shows would meet around 1.5


I think 1.25 might be more accurate now

Under no circumstances do I think that it's a GREAT thing for AEW that it was 1.02. But I am surprised it was not worse.

It was a night for premiers, but that’s down to AEW’s scheduling too. Plus, and this goes with the news too — these things don’t necessarily need to cut into AEW’s audience. People will watch premiers and news that have no interest in wrestling. Or they may not necessarily watch live. Wrestling is supposed to have the edge on cable for being live entertainment.

It was a big night for TV, but there isn’t necessarily a massive sample of people who would have watched AEW Dynamite Grand Slam if it weren’t for The Goldbergs.

2.5 million for SD, it's highest rating since 2020.

Just rumors about Bray being there and the ratings are through the roof.