Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 5188664)

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5188673)

I read that the Bellas were apparently upset with Ronda's promo, so Nikki will 100p win in 4 minutes via armbar.

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5188673)

I read that the Bellas were apparently upset with Ronda's promo, so Nikki will 100p win in 4 minutes via armbar.

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 5188640)

Didn't realise Evolution was this weekend, is anyone actually going to watch it?

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5188683)

In fact, IIRC Vince put all the blame for the show being a disaster on Paul Heyman and fired him almost immediately after the show. Heyman/Vince had clashed about Lashley winning the title at the show as Heyman wanted Punk to leave as champ but Vince was all about pushing Lashley as the face of the ECW brand at the time.

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5188675)

IMO it's a "worked shoot" because Ronda wouldn't have said anything unapproved. Maybe they didn't tell Nikki in order to get genuine reaction, but I could see her trying to add a little "spice" to the feud by acting "shoot" upset with the promo.

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5188683)

In fact, IIRC Vince put all the blame for the show being a disaster on Paul Heyman and fired him almost immediately after the show. Heyman/Vince had clashed about Lashley winning the title at the show as Heyman wanted Punk to leave as champ but Vince was all about pushing Lashley as the face of the ECW brand at the time.

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5188673)

I read that the Bellas were apparently upset with Ronda's promo, so Nikki will 100p win in 4 minutes via armbar.

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5188834)

What did she say?

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 5188891)

Great game, then they built on it and made Wrestlemania and No Mercy.

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5188863)

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5188853)

She should have just screamed "Say it to our faceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" over the promo.

Originally Posted by XL (Post 5188360)

Pete Dunne, Ciampa, Cedric Alexander, Kendrick, Matt Riddle, Alexander Black/Tommy End are all under contract. Sami Callahan/Solomon Crowe did a stink in NXT. Jushin Liger did a guest spot for a Takeover.

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5188914)

No Mercy was better too

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5188161)

I use to love all that Indy nonsense, in particular, back around 2008-2010 or something I was a huge Chikara fan. But now I just see all these crap and none of it seems funny anymore.

The guy with the super strong penis who keeps flipping people over with it... never laughed once. Think I've lost my smile.

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5188212)

I think at some stage it's natural for wrestling fans, given the stigma associated with wrestling, to say "Of course we know it's not real -- look at how deliberately fake it is." And that gets compounded with so many wrestling tropes being smacked over our heads that anything that subverts it seems "fun." But wrestling is really conflict drama. It has goals (winning and losing) and it should have stakes in order to justify emotional investment.

The thing with all the comedy wrestling is that is completely defeats the point of any of that. I don't think it's impressive to go out there and pretend that the goals and stakes are ludicrous. And I think to non-fans, as opposed to being an obvious edge into to a staged form of entertainment, it's actually as silly as someone trying to do a comedy song but not being able to remotely play an instrument or be able to sing. "Why do you watch this shit? You know it's fake, right?" "Of course I do! Look at that guy swinging people with his penis! They're clearly not trying to fool anyone!" "Yeah, but why do you watch this shit?"

It's got even less of a point than WWE's sports entertainment, and I actually consider it a very self-conscious and self-hating form of wrestling. I'm sure the guys who do it think it is funny, but I can't help but think that they must be deeply insecure to need to overtly discredit any form of irony bribe. It's like they are too scared to actually try. And it's riddled with 15-year-old boy syndrome.

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5188935)

It's why I personally dislike Young Bucks matches... I get the whole rebellion thing works for them, and that's fine, but the "a match isn't good unless it has at least one dive" philosophy makes dives not special. Cramming 800 finishes into a match before it is even halfway done might be ok periodically, but not every. single. match. Even the Joey Ryan dick flip was funny IN CONTEXT of the first time it was done (wrestling a guy who always went for a testicular claw, and having him suggest Ryan not only not sell, but actually reverse it because "American penis so big; so strong"): something that has been long since lost in all the time afterwards spent either having someone like Cornette only see the clip and focus on the spot itself or Joey making his penis into his whole one-dimensional gimmick. It was a time and place thing that was only good a hand full of times (not a pun). Instead, it was run into the ground.

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 5188443)

Uncaged VI is being released tomorrow and the track listing is as follows:




As you can see, it's an all female track listing (I wonder why?).

The only themes I'm really interesting in are Katie Lea's, Natalya's (but we've already got the full version from the SvR games but it's still a good theme), Beth Phoenix's, Molly Holly's and Ivory's.

I've also noticed that just over half of the themes are from the 05-09 period but you can't really complain as the vast majority of women before 2005 were only given really generic sounding production themes, especially in the late 90's/early 00's, which are only represented by Ivory, Stacy Keibler and Molly Holly. I'm not counting Stephanie's theme there even though it's from 2002, because she's the boss' daughter so obviously she would have been given her very own theme.

I think it's cool that we've been given two themes that were only ever used once, with those being Beth Phoenix and Emma, who by the way, is the only "2010's" theme on the album and yeah Tamina's theme is from 2012 but I can't really recall her using a remix of "Tropical Storm", so I think that may be a completely unused theme all-together. I think maybe she was going to use it but plans were made to pair her up with AJ Lee, so she just began using AJ Lee's theme instead.

I remember reading somewhere that although the Uncaged albums are credited to Jim Johnston, he has never had anything to do with the albums as it's all CFO$ doing. I remember reading that they're given free range to the WWE music library and they select which themes get added to the albums. They are also apparently allowed to change the names of tracks which they did with Viscera's theme from Uncaged III. It's original Jim Johnston title was "Fuck Me" but they changed it to "Gut Punch". I think maybe they've done the same with Molly Holly's theme as its title is simply "Molly Holly". I'm sure its original title was "Virginous", "Virgin" or "Wholesome". Something that was related to her gimmick at the time anyway. "Molly Holly" is kind of a boring and unimaginative title and doesn't really scream that Jim Johnston made it. I think CFO$ may have wanted to change it but couldn't think up of something so they just went with "Molly Holly" because as we've seen with their themes, they are just simply creative Gods.

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5189020)

It was Sara D'Amato. She went from being one of the best women's wrestlers in the world (who Vince didn't hire because she was too "old" and "ugly") to training the girls and her track record is amazing. No Sara, no Women's Revolution. End of story.