its heavy retcon. its not worth defending it. same with "last we met i was but a student. now i am the master." the show doesnt give two shits about continuity. and fair enough. just take it for what it is. the mental gymnastics needed to make this show work could burst your brain

if you can manage to ignore the horrid continuity youll find a pretty fun show

shout out to how innept the child playing leah is at running though. she doesnt run like a girl. she runs like a toddler whos barely mastered walking

She acts like a fucking spastic though.

Bad child actor. Typical of Star Wars.
I bet because she’s a little girl in 2022 her life isn’t ruined like Jake Loyd. They will protect her from normality. Lots of safe spaces and fanny pads.

she has good inflection. most child actors, because theyre children and dont have a grasp on words let alone emphasis, really struggle with iit. but she's pretty good in that regard. dunno if its her acting coach or the director but she works. but anything physical becomes cartoonish. they should have shot around the issue no clue how they looked at the dailies and decided to ship it as is.

I agree with Destor on Leia's running. It was...atrocious.

Also--I was being very forgiving with my post about Leia's message. I'm hoping Obi whips out the old memory wiper from MIB at the end to make everything right.

I'm still a bit underwhelmed by the show, continuity aside. Last episode was a step in the right direction but this should've just been a movie or something.

im hoping we can move forward with the franchise. the worl is rich. we dont have to have characters we know

That was the beauty of Mando. Someone new.

while being supremely familiar

One of the good things in The Last Jedi was seeing Canto Bight and the kind of "upper class" people of the galaxy.... I'd be interested in seeing more of the "upper class" since the low class scum/scoundrels/rebels/bounty hunters has been done....

A Lando series starring Donald Glover would be cool for that maybe... he's a scoundrel for sure, but he constantly gets in with the upper class (if only to swindle them)

finale really justifies the shows existence. weird to have the A plot resolved before the B plot when the A plot is the one the audience clearly is more invested in but its still good; they don't drag their feet on the B plot so its not a major issue. def deflates the momentum though.

Why not do Lando Versus Mando because everybody loves rhyming names

Also why is the Mandalorian known as Mando anyway? It should be Manda… but I guess that’s too much like Amanda.

Enjoyed elements of the finale a lot but I don’t know if I feel fulfilled to where I needed this show more than another new character. The fight was badass, though. And the visual at the end (as well as the sound of a certain someone’s voice) of the big fight was cool.

I feel the first few eps plodded along too much to be forgiven despite me having fun watching Ewan doing his thing.

i think the journey was wortth the destination

Tbh I just felt like it was a good episode of Bad Batch, which isn’t good enough imo.

Last two episodes were good.

Alrhough, I'm not really sure why he leaves Vader alive, but okay. Guess leia annoyed him enough were hes hoping vader goes out and murders more children.

he leaves him alive because he's not a sith

Yeah. And seeing Anakin's face filled him with conflicting emotions since he essentially raised him. It plays in nicely to how he was insistent that Luke needed to take him out since he himself failed to do it and it twice when he easily could've and it led to more suffering across the galaxy.

Imagine getting a man’s son to kill him because you find it too harrowing yourself lol.

That’s some funny stuff. Millions will die because Jedi’s are terrible at finishing what they started.

It was pretty cool though. I mean that wee speech at the end of the duel was Grade A Vader shit. I watched it a few times because he looked more evil than ever before. Good times.

BY FAR my favourite moment of the series. Fuck did it look and sound cool.

The evil eye looked pretty great.

Would scare a child.
Hats off to McGregor for doing a pretty good Alec Guinness homage.

That little bit of Hayden as Vader was also really believable.

Hes not a pacifist either. I feel like if it was anyone else you'd have a point, but we've seen how much death and destruction follows Vader. To allow him to continue that feels to me like it goes beyond mercy, and into stupidity. Kenobi is compassionate and merciful, but also willing to do what needs to be done.

I guess I felt they didnt give me a good enough reason that hed leave him alive, especially after seeing what hes capable of after doing so the first time. Add to that, he flat out says, Anakin is truly dead. So he wouldnt be killing his friend but rather this thing that is just destroying everything it comes across.

I mean Obi-Wan was Anakin's brother as much as Luke was his son, and Luke couldn't kill him either.

But I agree that the show didn't explore enough emotions to tell that story with the appropriate gravitas. For such rich characters, the writers really made the show feel skin deep. Then it tries with the Wrestlemania moments (Obi letting Darth live) that lack the proper legwork to truly make sense without the appropriate cannon-based mental gymnastics.

Heroes letting the villain live for the sake their ideals has always been a sticking point with me. A slippery slope, if you weeeeeellll. Its a classic trope. A great one even. But for me, it has to make sense. Once the villain does too much, too often, then the hero sticking to their pronciples, starts to look less heroic, and more selfish.

And again, for me it comes down to Kenobi having already made the choice to spare him once before and seeing the misery and death that followed that decision. I need a VERY good reason why he would choose to make that choice again. But the show didnt really give it to me.

All that said, I still enjoyed the last two episodes. As a whole the series was okay. Hoping Ashoka is Mando quality. Andor looks a lot more interesting than I thought it would.

You Star Wars fucks will never be happy.

You’re the reason that little fella from the first prequel went insane as an adult.

Obi Wan blocked a hip toss too. MMA master.

Nah, plenty of star wars stuff that I love. More than I dislike for sure.

And the kid went insane because of psycho's who can't distinguish between a real person and a part played in a show or movie. Its a phenomenom that plagues a lot of fandoms and I've never been able to wrap my head around these people's mindsets.

He was pretty bad though.
No child has ever been as good as Freddie Highmore was in anything.

Most kids acting skills are more like Freddie Highmore is as an adult.
Something went badly wrong there. He’s now only playing people on the spectrum. Must have used up all of his juice on those emotional scenes as a kid. That or somebody molested all of the joie de vivre out of him many years ago and now all that’s left is a husk that sounds retarded.

I wonder how much of it was the kid's fault and how much of it was Lucas' dialogue and direction.

Just watched it.... loved the duel...

Overall the series was good. Felt like some of the cool Star Wars comic books they've been doing, but instead of making a comic they said F it, threw a bunch of money around, and did it live action. Even 6 episodes the way a typical comic book arc these days is 6 issues.

I predicted from the start that one of the points of the entire series was gonna be Darth Vader flat out telling Obi-Wan that he killed Anakin to justify Kenobi later telling Luke the same thing.

Like others, yeah, I feel like they should have had more reason for Kenobi to leave Vader alive this time. Feels like at that point at that moment he should have felt ok ending it.

Feel like I want to watch A New Hope again and look for any evidence that Leia doesn't treat Obi-Wan as a complete stranger.

Why doesn’t Wedge have his own show yet?
The Cantina Band could be the musical act for his talk show.

And finally, Qui-Gon must really be pissed that suddenly taking a lightsaber to the stomach is just super easy to recover from

obviously screw anyone who used this as an excuse to be racist, but still can we acknowledge that the 3rd Sister is one of the dumbest, worst written characters in Star Wars history?

Same thing when vader force pulls a ship into the ground, then immediately forgets the force powers he just used and lets the other ship go. Just absolute dogcrap writing.

she's not great. also both the black characters having hard american dialects made them feel REALLY out of place. i guess theyre from space Compton. always feel like english and southern are the only 2 dialects that feel right in the setting.

as far as the community being racist most of that is manufactured. its fake twitter nonsense. very little of that is 2 authentic people. and on the rare occasion it is 1 tweet from 1 rando. most though is hate marketing which has proven to be VERY effective.

southern, english and "non-descript" i guess. what radio would call the "non-ascent"

Honestly,best part was the final battle between Kenobi and Vader. otherwise this series sucked fat balls and was completely fucking pointless. added absolutely nothing to the story of Star Wars .

uh.....what? Luke, Han, and Leia all had hard American dialects. Leia only sounded "British" in a few scenes in a New Hope, which I read in an interview she did it because she was nervous about working with Peter Cushing.

Odd nitpick.

Peter Cushing is more intertwined with Frankenstein than Boris Karloff in my mind.
He must have played every horror baddie ten times each by the time Hammer was done

Luke and Han have non-acents. not rengional at all. leah had like a vaguely regal non accent. it was non with a dab of english. "american accent" isnt a thing btw. its a big place. we have dozens. the thing you mean is "american" is the what the radio used to call the non-accent. also called the neutral accent. its not from anywhere. when a foreigner speaks in "american" they learn a non-accent.

which sounds fine in space films. its generic. same with nuetral-english. southern always works for working class folk in any medium. if youre doing rustic space southern works for whatever reason.

really specific accents like cajun or northern-albertan sound fucking weird galaxies away. truly bizzare. you immediately feel the fourth wall shatter.

Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill just used their own accents.

Generican.

I didn't notice anything wrong with Third Sister's accent..... just her character and how poorly written she was in general

Fischer didnt. not initially anyways. her natural speaking voice is much harsher. so softened her voice up for most of her roles. listen to her in interviews or even when she would sing and its a much more masculine voice

https://youtu.be/EJYp5rNAFGg


the first quote here is literally a bad english accent mixed with the mid atlantic accent (that was invented by hollywood)

Hollywood didn’t invent the generic yank accent, that was probably the South by way of mockery.
The generic Southern accent sounds like it comes from mockery too but then so do all of the individual Southern ones so maybe that’s just how they sound down there.

Thinking about when Simple Fan posted his accent.

Brilliant.

the mid atlantic accent isnt "generic yank." its literally not spoken anywhere outside of old hollywood films.

https://youtu.be/5aXmNle560k


jump to 5:07 for transatlantic. its basically the only purely consciously created dialect...well ever

I don’t think the Transatlantic accent was a Hollywood invention bud. It caught on there but it was a social thing more than anything.

Cary Grant is the epitome of that accent and most of the best examples will be from Hollywood but that’s only because most widely seen old film is from movies.
It was definitely around before films spread the appeal.

Wiki agrees with me.

Says it was around in the 19th century.

Destor what’s your favourite Hollywood film from the 1800’s?

The pioneer of the dialect, William Tilly, literally deliberately taught it to actors as a method to popularize it in hopes it would spread "correct speech" in his mind.

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the number of rich coastal elites in america in the mid 1800s is like 50 people. this accent was manufactured into existance chiefly by one mans efforts and rose to awareness culturally specifically through its usage in film. and since youve already established you think wikipedia is an arbiter of truth there's really nothing more to be said on the topic

Stop being wrong so hard.

Hollywood was just the syringe.

oh this is just a semantics issue for you. yeah i dont care about arguing about if invention lies in impetus or inception you can be "right" about that. i really couldnt care less.

Now suck my penis, I won’t enjoy it so it’s a fair punishment.

He’s going to drop me on my head and claim I was giving his dog shit…

What have I done…

How can you say you won't enjoy it when it hasn't happened yet? You just want to believe you won't enjoy it but there is a possibility you will even if you won't admit it.

I wonder if darth maul's dick has those same little spikes that are on his head.

Then he could literally give someone death by deep throat

If he has those bumps naturally I bet the ladies don’t believe him when he says it.
They probably think he has space warts.

Space Warts: A New Hope

Title actually works… the sequels are “Strikes Back” and “Return Of” so we know evil wins the day or is impossible to kill.

He won’t be mauling anything with his dick looking like that.

Vader can force grab a fuckin space ship as it's boosting away but can't jump over waist high fire lol

Jedi becoming earth benders suddenly was pretty cheesy

Vader and Obi leaving each other alive when they could've just ended it multiple times

Farmers holding a sith off with random trash laying around the house

Obi dressing as a jedi when the empire is searching for jedi

erasing the fact that obi and anakin were jedi masters and having them both act like retards

glass in an underwater military facility not being bullet proof

You would think that after Obi-Wan left Vader alive and took off in the shuttle, the Grand Inquisitor in the nearby star destroyer would have shot it down immediately. Unless Vader instructed them to not wait in orbit and to just leave him there.

darth maul having a cat dick is head cannon now

The concepts and ideas in the prequels is great, but the execution is as bad as it gets in moviemaking. It’s an unwatchable abomination of CGI, greenscreens, and wooden acting with dialogue that sounds like it was written by an AI bot.

The exact opposite is true for the sequel trilogy - great execution in filmmaking, but stupid unoriginal ideas (sans parts of The Last Jedi, which has great ideas, but the neckbeards couldn’t handle their precious manbaby Luke being treated like less than a god).

after 40 years having one of the most iconic characters in history, not just through film but all of narrative throughout time, become a weak coward and betray every narrative these long rime fans had read over 4 decades is not a good idea.

people literally had been waiting their entire lives to see what their childhood hero grew up to do. its easily the most tone def moment in film history. the fact you can accurately describe luke as a man baby should shed some light on how bad your take is.

"hey you know the great hero of franchise? what if he wasnt?" yeah great idea.

I still can’t believe what I saw at the end of The Mandalorian.

That was fucking tits.

I wish I liked the films more but the two shows I watched were a real breath of fresh air for the franchise.

it was decades of catharsis let loose

the second i finished mando s2 i called my dad, he was really disappointed by the films, and since didnt have disney+ I told him to he had to come over for 8 hours on the next free day he had. watching him watch that scene was like watching a kid on christmas morning. it was really special.

TLHJ is a top 3/4 Star Wars film for me. I really enjoyed the Luke Rey Kylo story.

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Dammit.... gone from "lol Disney really doing all they can to milk this thing... a prequel series about a dude from a prequel movie" to "damn, this looks great, I can't wait to see it!"

That was my reaction when the first teaser dropped. Still looking really good.

Yeah, first teaser looked great too. I hope Admiral Draven is in this.... no sign of him yet...

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Slow burn start to Andor, but loved the third episode. Glad they released the three at once. From a visual point of view may be the best of all the Star Wars shows.

Destor is gonna be SO pissed at all the accents in it.

Pissed isnt the word id use but i see the direction they're going. Its whatever. Show looks solid.

Show is really good so far. Pleasantly surprised after the MEH-ness of Kenobi.

I still don't even understand this Star Wars with unstilted dialogue. I'm not saying it's Quentin Tarantino or anything but I don't find himself having to lower my expectations of natural-sounding conversations while watching Andor.

I guess it helps when the likes of Stellan Skarsgard and Diego Luna deliver the lines it sounds less forced.

Only real issue with the show is the pacing and structure. Still enjoying it tons, I just wish there was a bit more focused on episodic arcs that bleed into the series arc, versus it being more or less a long movie.

Just watched the new episode.... lol at just kind of randomly ending.

Slow pace for sure.... wonder if the show is gonna do "3 episode story arcs" where the first two are kinda slow and then the 3rd is exciting....

I like the slow pace, but, as you said, the episode ended randomly. Don't understand why the deliberate pace can't mesh with episodes that have a beginning, middle, and end.

I'm betting space-cereal guy becomes a Rebel....

Space cereal guy and blonde career girl seem to be positioned as "grey" area Imperials.

Don't think blonde braud is on the way to being a rebel though.... think she will eventually get that promotion and lead the charge against them...

Or she chokes on her aspirations and dies

Ep 6 was dope

Episode 6 was great....

Seriously considering not watching the next 3 weeks so I can watch them all at once.... just as a guess that it will follow the "3 episode cycle" and I can binge it....

But more likely I won't be able to wait.

Yeah they are def doing 3 episode arcs—where each one is ostensibly a movie.

Funny how nobody seems to be watching this cuz of all the frustration with Boba and Kenobi. lol

I am watching it. Rogue One is my favorite post-prequels Star Wars offering, so this is hitting the spot for me.

I’d argue the show is better than Rogue One—especially if you’re a big nerd like me.

Wow that’s high praise since Rogue one is great.

Im watching the hell out of this, cause its awesome.

damn episode 6 was absolutely fantastic

Skeen was great. Loved him in The Bear.