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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250298)

Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

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More surprised they allow a running powerbomb after what happened to Droz. They banned the piledriver for much less if you compare what happened to Austin vs Droz. And that was only because Owen Hart decided to do a weird variation of a tombstone when he (allegedly) talked to austin backstage and said he would drop to his knees after initially saying he would drop to his ass.

The way Ric Flair took piledrivers is the best and worst way to do it. Safer than a scoop slam with absolutely no visible impact.

And the crowd goes mild

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250341)

I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

Tue pettiness is on par with WWE operation, but then, the action would require viable forethought they clearly don't have.

Example context to my statement:

1) constantly trying to bury Daniel Bryan because his popularity was fucking up their plans until they couldn't sweep it under the rug anymore, then pretending that is what they meant to do the entire time until the temporary retirement.

2) the time I was swerved into believing that WWE was trying to bank on Batista being hot shit off the back of the first Guardians, but in reality, they thought the movie was going to flop, and didn't factor cross promotion at all.

3) having potential, premade stars graduate from their Florida factory, just to make them nobodies in short order.

4) killing an angle between Sasha and Bayley that saw Bayley not get suckered. It was supposed to be a heel turn but got a damn cathartic pop and should have been an avenue to make her a force to be reckoned with. Instead, that gets scrubbed in like three weeks to force them into a tag team to become the inaugural women's champs that they really didn't need to do.

5) NXT makes a big deal out of x tag team. Tag team gets called up to main roster. Tag team gets featured for like a month. Tag team fucks off to oblivion. See: American Alpha, Authors of Pain, The Ascension, The Revival, Heavy Machinery....

6) Remember when they thought Jinder Mahal would be a big deal halfway around the world just because he was brown?

They have been doing shitty shows since before Cody Rhodes tweeted "hold my beer". There is no way fucking over AEW is any priority. More like a "bright side" side effect of being a colossal shitty show... well, shitshow.

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250367)

I could see that being believable if this was something that only happened suddenly like WWE's rapid decline in quality and interest post-Hulkamania era or post-Invasion storyline.

Instead this has been something that's been self-inflicted for years and only now has gotten to the point where its becoming impossible to ignore or sweep away. WWE's biggest blunders were not learning their lessons from the booking mistakes with the Cena era and not grooming Cena's kids market to be their future core viewers.

In the span of a few months, WWE went from being one of the hottest properties in television to now being closer to "ice cold" status. If they were a regular tv style show, they would have been canceled by now and the only reason it hasn't happened is due to their ability to provide weekly content without needing seasonal breaks.

Or, basically, not wanting Cena to begin with, then eventually sacrificing all up-and-comers upon his altar and not building anyone new until there was a "dire need"... exactly the same reason they decided to even push Cena to begin with.

Nobody's important until we need them to be important, but by the time that happens, they have usually bottomed out that pity well with the fans.

The Vince conspiracies were bound to come in, but it's a bit risky to fly so close to the sun when you could potentially lose hundreds of millions should NBC and FOX not be appeased.

Saw a cool interview with Rhyno. He's walking away from WWE when his contract expires on July 17 because he wants to wrestle more and help bring more inexperienced talents along. WWE offered him twice as big a downside as he had to stay.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many are aware. If true, he has to bear the albatross of being a bigot & working in a company that is now filled with minorities.</p>— Florida Man (@WWEBigE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/1126145932486221828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I like how in between all the examples of bigotry the is this one example of "Zach Ryder=cringeworthy" lol.

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250330)

WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

Impact should just go to airing on their network. It started as PPV each week so its hardly any different.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)

I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

I watched 45 minutes of raw yesterday before falling asleep. I watched all of SD though this morning. My fandom of a shitty baseball team has overcome wrestling even though I could watch both at the same time split screen.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video of WWE Business Partner Summit 2019 is now up on WWE's corporate website: <a href="https://t.co/hOQYUjQS0p">https://t.co/hOQYUjQS0p</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126147686359609349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, the BPS does open with a skit involving Carmella and R-Truth, in which R-Truth thinks he's on SNL and confuses George Barrios for Barry Manilow.</p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126149389746151426?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">-Seamless discovery<br>-Download to go<br>-Customization/personalization<br>-New content<br>-Multiple tiers</p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126159214961934337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Chief Marketing & Communications Officer Brian Flinn:<br>"We have the unique advantage of listening to our audience... Those 100 decibel crowds have the power to make or break characters." <a href="https://t.co/yvMNpjgryE">pic.twitter.com/yvMNpjgryE</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126161386185330689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"The second group is our action fans. They want amazing athleticism and consequential outcomes. Action fans love the fierce in ring battle of two people determined to become the champion. They are, in short, sports fans." <a href="https://t.co/sdqXOSNpF7">pic.twitter.com/sdqXOSNpF7</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126165682138296321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh yes, R-Truth and Carmella go into the audience and sing "What's Up!" with the business partners. <a href="https://t.co/hGW55xYEKD">pic.twitter.com/hGW55xYEKD</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126173628696006656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H touts WWE's discovery of Braun Strowman and Finn Balor. He notes, "NXT is the most watched weekly show on the WWE Network." He puts over Takeover the night before and says ,"it wouldn't have been possible at all without the Performance Center." <a href="https://t.co/Iw4I3QcHLU">pic.twitter.com/Iw4I3QcHLU</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126175438987038720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H ponders, maybe someday there could be some kind of country vs. country event. <br><br>What started in Orlando "will one day populate the globe". <a href="https://t.co/qk7nNIgDG0">pic.twitter.com/qk7nNIgDG0</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126179035334303744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stephanie McMahon rolls out new WWE community pillars! <a href="https://t.co/Moy1jQKb97">pic.twitter.com/Moy1jQKb97</a></p>— Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126182591017701377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This deserves a thread of its own. Someone made a compilation of Lars’ bigoted views from the past.

https://reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/c...d_screenshots/

SO MAKE THE GOD DAMN THREAD DAVE

Jesus Christ, that BPS sounds ridiculous.

What do you call the fans leaving?

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5250596)

SO MAKE THE GOD DAMN THREAD DAVE

I don’t have access to my laptop at the moment. I am traveling.

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250574)

imagining having sex with Toni Storm while Kaze Ni Nare plays...……….

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“We have the unique advantage of listening to our audience”

Yes you do. You should try doing that sometime.

Also, that segregation of the adult fan base shows the disconnect between them and the fans. Literally all adult fans want both of those things.

What he meant to say was they have 2 fans, total. And that's what each one likes respectively.

Reddit post on LARS saying lots of racist shit and making fun of most of his current co-workers

https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...d_screenshots/

Probably would have been in his best interest to not post all those things while pursuing a career as a pro rassler...

Those posts are really bad, especially the ones where he belittles people for having anxiety despite suffering through it himself. And he blocks anyone who brings up these posts.

It’s not even that he said one or two awful things. These are posts spanning half a decade showing patterns of racism, homophobia, and a complete lack of regard for the mentally ill. And all of these posts were when he was in his 20s and at an age where he clearly should’ve known better.

Is it possible for people to change? Yes. But his refusal to own up to any of his mistakes tells me that he hasn’t.

When he called Kofi and R-Truth members of the Black Panthers...

...yeah, not winning any locker room pals probably judging from Big E's tweet.

Slik, I posted that earlier today.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250588)

This deserves a thread of its own. Someone made a compilation of Lars’ bigoted views from the past.

https://reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/c...d_screenshots/

Watching the live ROH War of the Worlds Buffalo show on Honor Club right now. Why is SANADA rocking the Donald Trump haircut now?

I quoted your posts in the new thread. I don't know how I feel about Lars. I've known about this for a while but it is finally getting some attention. I don't want him to lose his job but at the same time show some remorse for his bigoted views.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wild Card rule means "random appearances" and not knowing who will show up on what <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> show. DOES NOTHING. Few appearances of full time roster will move needle like they want. It takes STORIES behind those talent appearances and a Wild Card rule isn't a good story. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a></p>— Justin LaBar (@JustinLaBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/1126230656848158722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sean Mooney has Todd Pettingel on his podcast this week. Lol awesome guest.

Apparently WWE laid down the hammer on the two NXT guys who were running a troubled Twitch channel.

Besides known issues with their streams having content that likely would piss off or be borderline unacceptable to WWE, they also ran an infamous donation system that encouraged people to pay to hear insults from wrestlers which led to the Rhea Ripley homophobic slur incident to happen.

The NXT guy who ran the channel pretty much implied its all WWE's fault and instead of making changes to save their channel, he decided to call it quits instead.

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250720)

Lars can fuck right off with all that bullshit. Apparently WWE has known for a while. I hope this shit blows up in their face and they're forced to shit can that racist sack of shit.

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Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250743)

Sean Mooney has Todd Pettingel on his podcast this week. Lol awesome guest.

If only they could have Cole to round it off and destroy the entire universe.

lol the police questioned Adams about Ginos death cause Gino blinded him with hair cream

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Seth82 getting into it w/ Ryan Satin

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">you've never heard about the story of Gino's death? someone who is a wrestling journalist should probably know it. <a href="https://t.co/F0VovEm4W4">https://t.co/F0VovEm4W4</a></p>— Wrestling The Way You Remember It! (@SethHanson1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethHanson1982/status/1126281737980579840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why? He was never a huge name in mainstream wrestling and died before I was born. I’m a news reporter not a historian. There’s a difference.</p>— Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1126327242244550656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Seth then RTing this

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Dude isn't wrong. If his job is covering current events in wrestling, it's good to have a healthy knowledge of wrestling history, but knowing a guy like Gino Hernandez isn't necessary.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So your saying if I do squats in a thong, I’ll get over? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whatstormbeentokin?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whatstormbeentokin</a> <a href="https://t.co/BoKIF336MW">https://t.co/BoKIF336MW</a></p>— Randy Orton (@RandyOrton) <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyOrton/status/1126329296296058880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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