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Damian Rey 12-16-2015 06:10 PM

Feel pretty underwhelmed for what the Reds got in return for Frazier. Peraza is a nice player, but he's s punches singles hitter who doesn't draw walks. For 2 years of a power hitting third baseman, that's not much if anything.

Evil Vito 12-16-2015 07:11 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Bartoloooooooooooooooooooooo</font> :love:

Droford 12-16-2015 09:17 PM

The Os signed an of from Korea..yay

ClockShot 12-16-2015 09:25 PM

Indians sign Mike Napoli and Rajai Davis to 1-year deals.

road doggy dogg 12-16-2015 10:15 PM

:wavesad: Rajai

that walkoff grand slam against the A's last year was one of my fav moments of the season

Nicky Fives 12-17-2015 02:47 AM

I'd take Rajai as my 4th OF any day of the week....It's hard not to love Bartolo.....

ClockShot 12-17-2015 08:31 AM

Rajai screwed me over for fantasy this season. I was expecting ALOT of steals, but he saw very minimal playing time. Hopefully a change of venue does the trick.

road doggy dogg 12-17-2015 08:49 AM

He was just a fun guy to watch. Perfect 4th OF IMO, don't ask too much of him but was great in short bursts

Evil Vito 12-17-2015 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4744974)
Feel pretty underwhelmed for what the Reds got in return for Frazier. Peraza is a nice player, but he's s punches singles hitter who doesn't draw walks. For 2 years of a power hitting third baseman, that's not much if anything.

<font color=goldenrod>Moreover, the Dodgers are thought to have received a considerably better haul than what the Reds got, including Frankie Montas, clearly the best prospect in the trade.

Reds got fleeced.</font>

Damian Rey 12-17-2015 10:03 AM

I even question the Dodgers haul. But they made out better than Cincy.

Evil Vito 12-18-2015 07:29 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The Dodgers' disastrous offseason continues. Turns out Iwakuma failed his physical, so the signing was nixed and he's now re-signed with the Mariners on a 1 year deal with 2017 and 2018 vesting options.

Also the Reds and Nats have agreed to a Brandon Phillips trade, but Phillips is holding up for more money for him to waive his no-trade clause.</font>

Evil Vito 12-18-2015 03:18 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Some early 2016 World Series odds for the degenerate gamblers here. Aka Droford:

Chicago Cubs -- 6/1
San Francisco Giants -- 6/1
Boston Red Sox -- 9/1
Kansas City Royals -- 14/1
New York Mets -- 14/1
Los Angeles Dodgers -- 16/1
St. Louis Cardinals -- 16/1
Toronto Blue Jays -- 16/1
Houston Astros -- 18/1
Pittsburgh Pirates -- 18/1
Washington Nationals -- 18/1
Arizona Diamondbacks -- 20/1
Texas Rangers -- 20/1
Cleveland Indians -- 25/1
Detroit Tigers -- 25/1
Los Angeles Angels -- 25/1
New York Yankees -- 25/1
Seattle Mariners -- 33/1
Baltimore Orioles -- 50/1
Chicago White Sox -- 50/1
Minnesota Twins -- 50/1
Miami Marlins -- 66/1
Tampa Bay Rays -- 66/1
Milwaukee Brewers -- 75/1
Oakland Athletics -- 75/1
Atlanta Braves -- 100/1
Cincinnati Reds -- 100/1
Colorado Rockies -- 100/1
Philadelphia Phillies -- 100/1
San Diego Padres -- 100/1

Looks like the oddsmakers are buying into the Even Year Giants too. Not for nothing, but while I don't expect much from the Padres next year I'm pretty surprised they put them at the same level as the clear dumpster fire teams like the Phillies and Braves.</font>

screech 12-18-2015 03:24 PM

Gonna go worst to first! Wooooo!

road doggy dogg 12-18-2015 03:52 PM

What am I missing with the Red Sox? Yeah David Price but what.

road doggy dogg 12-18-2015 04:00 PM

Curious to see the Tigers' odds so low. Love the moves they've made this offseason. A rejuvenated JV and Zimmerman at the top of the rotation, a bullpen that can't be any worse than it was last year, and a bounce-back-ish year from VMart... I think they'll be decent. Not great, but are people really drinking the Cleveland Kool-Aid again this year? (both listed at 25/1)

Emperor Smeat 12-18-2015 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4745786)
What am I missing with the Red Sox? Yeah David Price but what.

Not sure either. At this point just hoping for not another miserable season and dead last finish in the East.

Seems like whenever the Red Sox have been betting favorites for the AL in recent years, they decide to be extra horrible instead.

road doggy dogg 12-18-2015 04:09 PM

I mean, they'll obviously be better this year, but having the third-best odds for the World Series? Maybe people think Big Papi is gonna have some magic Cinderella sendoff season or something. Either way, I might have to hammer the under for their wins total if that reflects these odds

ClockShot 12-18-2015 05:28 PM

Just like the Giants winning it all every other year, Boston's pattern is worst/first/worst/first.

weather vane 12-18-2015 06:06 PM

Red Sox could be beasts this year if the young guns develop like they should. Also David Price. Also the bullpen is grosssssss. Also here's hoping to Laser Show to be just that. Also Papi's final year. Weird Haircut Clay can hopefully stay healthy. Porcello was pretty good at the end of the season too.

I think the Red Sox look great.

Except for Hanley and Panda. I hope they get traded and we sign Chris Davis.

Evil Vito 12-18-2015 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4745786)
What am I missing with the Red Sox? Yeah David Price but what.

<font color=goldenrod>Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Boston fans jumped on the Sox betting out of bias which in turn shifted the odds. It's probably not a coincidence that the 3 teams who have arguably made the biggest splashes this offseason (and who all have sizable fanbases) are the 3 favorites right now.</font>

Emperor Smeat 12-18-2015 08:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Dodgers will pay an MLB record of over $43 million in luxury taxes this season. <a href="https://t.co/MIYZCeYYpw">pic.twitter.com/MIYZCeYYpw</a></p>&mdash; ESPN Stats &amp; Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/678008382335373312">December 19, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Nicky Fives 12-19-2015 09:33 AM

TONS of value in Detroit at 25/1.....If they can stay healthy, they'd be my pick to come out of the AL East if their pitching does what it's supposed to and all their sluggers can remain healthy most of the year....

Evil Vito 12-19-2015 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4745993)
TONS of value in Detroit at 25/1.....If they can stay healthy, they'd be my pick to come out of the AL East if their pitching does what it's supposed to and all their sluggers can remain healthy most of the year....

<font color=goldenrod>I'll bet you $500 that Detroit doesn't win the AL East</font>

DaveWadding 12-19-2015 01:24 PM

the Dbacks at 20/1? Hmmmmmmmmmm

ClockShot 12-19-2015 04:01 PM

Nationals backed off of acquiring Brandon Phillips. Wanted an extension on his deal for him to waive his no-trade clause and the Nats didn't want to do that.

Damian Rey 12-19-2015 04:08 PM

What an idiot. Why would you not want to go with a winner and instead just mire in the mediocrity that will be Cincinnati Reds baseball for the next number of years.

Phillips doesn't have years left in the tank. Wonder why he wouldn't choose to spend the last of them on a winning club.

Evil Vito 12-19-2015 05:35 PM

<font color=goldenrod>In a weird sort of way I respect Phillips because he's refused to waive his no-trade clause several times in the last few years. Even though the tea mis bad he genuinely loves playing in Cincinnati and has made his home there, and to get him to leave he'd need to be compensated via extension.

On the flipside though, he's only damaging the team by not agreeing to go.</font>

Damian Rey 12-19-2015 05:41 PM

On the money.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 11:37 PM

Does the tax money go equally to every other team?

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-19-2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4745993)
TONS of value in Detroit at 25/1.....If they can stay healthy, they'd be my pick to come out of the AL East if their pitching does what it's supposed to and all their sluggers can remain healthy most of the year....

1993 called.

road doggy dogg 12-20-2015 12:38 AM

holy shit guys he said the wrong division

y'all know what he meant

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-20-2015 01:04 AM

Nope sorry. Your team is cursed to lose in 2016 because of this. At the end of 2016 blame NickyFives as a scapegoat!

Frank Drebin 12-20-2015 07:00 AM

After being gone for a week....lol white sox. All your problems are fixed.

Nicky Fives 12-20-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4746008)
<font color=goldenrod>I'll bet you $500 that Detroit doesn't win the AL East</font>

AL Central, my bad.....Tigers have a better shot than the Jays unfortunately....

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-20-2015 10:12 AM

The Jays still have a good squad. Main loss is Price. But other than that a very similar roster.

Evil Vito 12-20-2015 10:53 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The Jays lineup is still going to score a shitload of runs. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Donaldson comes back down to earth a bit but even if he does there will be more than enough bats to go around.

Think Michael Saunders will make them even deeper next year, too. 2015 was a lost year to him due to a fluke injury so I put no stock in that 9 game stint where he hit below the Mendoza line.</font>

Evil Vito 12-20-2015 12:34 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Bartolo Colon's new contract includes a $50,000 bonus if he wins a NL Silver Slugger Award. That is amazing.</font>

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Nicky Fives 12-21-2015 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4746257)
The Jays still have a good squad. Main loss is Price. But other than that a very similar roster.

As a Jays fan, I'd still take any of Tigers starters over what they have now to win "right now"....

road doggy dogg 12-21-2015 09:15 AM

You can take Pelfry if you're that eager :p

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-21-2015 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4746462)
As a Jays fan, I'd still take any of Tigers starters over what they have now to win "right now"....

Biggest concern is the wildcard starting rotation. Shapiro was a touch stingy but I don't really know if he had other real options.


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