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Emperor Smeat 07-14-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3579144)
Hope those prosecutors got fired. Totally mind blowing that they could screw this up so fast.

Dumb mistake by the prosecution side but considering ESPN or some other place had details about some of the jurors, I wouldn't have been surprised if the jury decided on a mistrial as well if it had gone on that long.

A few of them sounded like legit dumbasses in terms of sports or knowledge of what the case is about. I think one of them didn't understand how perjury is a crime or what steroids was.

ClockShot 07-14-2011 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3579207)
Dumb mistake by the prosecution side but considering ESPN or some other place had details about some of the jurors, I wouldn't have been surprised if the jury decided on a mistrial as well if it had gone on that long.

A few of them sounded like legit dumbasses in terms of sports or knowledge of what the case is about. I think one of them didn't understand how perjury is a crime or what steroids was.

The jury was made up of 10 females, 2 males, and 4 alternates. Unless the women were sports savvy, he probably would have walked anyway.

Droford 07-14-2011 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MVP (Post 3579066)
I could see Pena having success in Baltimore too.

He used to have a lot of success versus Baltimore, so why not lol

ClockShot 07-14-2011 08:37 PM

Colon got lit up like a god damn christmas tree.

Damian Rey 07-14-2011 09:09 PM

Time to evaluate the Padres' best trading chips, and what club, in my opinion, they match up best to.

RYAN LUDWICK-LF
245/310/390 11HR 55RBI 14DBL

Though not having a banner year offensively, Ludwick has put up a respectable line despite hitting in one of, if not arguably the worst hitter's park in all of baseball. He is the Padres' number one offensive trading piece, and the Padres will likely move him come the trading deadline, if not earlier. A few teams could use the help, but the CINCINNATI REDS seem to be the best fit. Jonny Gomes' 218/345/417 line has left much to be desired this season in Cincy, and Ludwick getting inserted into the middle of that lineup looks like the best fit for him and the team.

MIKE ADAMS-RHP
3-1 1.32 ERA 41K 6BB 1SV 23H

Adams might be the most attractive bullpen piece up for grabs for the Padres, not only due to his numbers this season, but also due to the fact that an acquiring team would have him for the final two months or so of the season, as well as next season. He has yet to have a bad season since coming to San Diego, and has appeared in at least 50 games in 3 of the last 4 seasons. Padres are rumored to be looking for a team's best prospect in return, and have a good amount of leverage with Adams due to his team controlled status through the end of 2012. The New York Yankees, with all the injuries their bullpen has suffered, seems like the best fit for Adams, and they have a few young players who could be moved to appease the Padres.

HEATH BELL-RHP
2-3 2.43ERA 27K 13BB 26SV

Bell has converted all but one save opportunity this year, where a lead was blown due to a throwing error. He's been one of the best closers in the game since he took over for the departing Trevor Hoffman in 2009. Bell is a free agent at the end of the season, so his trade value may not be as high as Adams'. He has stated, however, that he's more than willing to accept a set up role if it means having a chance at a championship. The St. Louis Cardinals have been the team mentioned most for Bell, who could easily slot into their closer role.

CHAD QUALLS
4-3 2.70ERA 24K 12BB 0SV 40H

Qualls is having a good bounce back season after struggling mightily all season in 2010. He likely does not have much value, but is still a strong candidate to be moved to any team looking to pad the bullpen.

SLEEPER PICKS

CHASE HEADLEY-3B
.299/.391/.401 2HR 31RBI 25DBL

Headley is finally having the season that resembles what he was scouted as having the potential to do. His power is sapped from batting primarily left handed at PETCO park, but every other offensive stat across the board has shown great improvement over 2010's production. Headley has more power than he's show, and could be a 15HR type hitter in a more neutral ballpark. He's also controllable for the next few years, and is one of the better defensive 3rd baseman in the league. Jed Hoyer has said Headley's a guy he'd like to build around, but with 3rd baseman James Darnell getting closer, and top prospect Jedd Gyorko seemingly fast tracking himself to the bigs, Headley could be moved for a package of prospects. The team seemingly in most need is the Reds. Rolen's production has fallen off a cliff this season, and Headley is a nice, controllable upgrade there. The only issue is Rolen is due $6mil for next season, and I have a hard time seeing any team taking on that salary without the Reds picking up the tab.

RP 07-14-2011 10:52 PM

I don't want to see Carlos Marmol in a Cubs uniform ever again.

DaveWadding 07-14-2011 10:56 PM

Somebody shoot Marmol and Quade.

DaveWadding 07-14-2011 11:04 PM

and probably Kerry Wood.

RP 07-14-2011 11:13 PM

Carlos Marmol just put a nail in the Cubs season, Quade, Jim Henry and his own job. All in one inning. I hope they deport him back to the Dominican.

RP 07-14-2011 11:16 PM

I wish this was Zambranos start. If this was Zambranos start, Marmol wouldn't make it out of the clubhouse tonight.

Damian Rey 07-15-2011 03:21 AM

How many blown saves does Marmol have? his numbers make it seem like he's having a pretty good season on a team that is going nowhere. I don't get all the hostility.

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:01 AM

I would imagine it's more the way he blows saves than the amount, since he is a giant walk monster.

Damian Rey 07-15-2011 04:14 AM

Yeesh you weren't lying. Oh well. I'm sure some team will take a chance on him. He's not owed a ridiculous amount over the next few years.

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:33 AM

these Ubaldo Jimenez trade rumors are getting out of control, yet I stupidly continue to read them.

Evil Vito 07-15-2011 11:17 AM

Mets are said to be going with a 3-way closer by committee.

I gotta figure Isringhausen gets first dibs. The Mets have basically 2 weeks to go on a tear/get back into any realistic contention...so they go with the proven guy and if nothing else, a good couple of weeks for Izzy could see him get moved for a mid-level prospect. Then Parnell and Beato share the duties to figure out who will close in 2012.

Gertner 07-15-2011 12:21 PM

lol the Yankees lost to Jo Jo Reyes, despite his best attempts to give the Yanks the game.

Innovator 07-15-2011 01:04 PM

Gertie what's the word on Bautista? That slide was nasty.

RP 07-15-2011 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3579592)
I would imagine it's more the way he blows saves than the amount, since he is a giant walk monster.

Marmol has blown 7 of 26 save attempts. Please give us Ubaldo for him.

Skippord 07-15-2011 01:50 PM

damn that's a lot more than I thought

MVP 07-15-2011 01:55 PM

So who's worse for the Cubs, Carlos Marmol or Mike Quade?

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:43 PM

Carlos Marmol in to close this bitch out!!!

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:47 PM

1 Walk

RP 07-15-2011 04:48 PM

Mike Quade is unbelievable right now. I can't believe he has Marmol out there again.

RP 07-15-2011 04:50 PM

is this seriously happening right now?

DaveWadding 07-15-2011 04:50 PM

I don't believe this. Is Quade really that stupid?

RP 07-15-2011 04:51 PM

If Marmol doesn't close this, Quade will be fired. You can see it on his face .

DaveWadding 07-15-2011 04:52 PM

BOOM Marlon Byrd.

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:52 PM

and Hanley Ramirez makes an awful mistake

RP 07-15-2011 04:52 PM

Marlon Byrd might have just saved Quades job for another game.

DaveWadding 07-15-2011 04:56 PM

holy fuck Marmol. Throw a goddamn fastball.

Skippord 07-15-2011 04:57 PM

god the marlins have an irritating television broadcast

DaveWadding 07-15-2011 04:58 PM

HIS NAME IS DAAAAAAN UUUUGGGGGGLAAAAAAAAA

RP 07-15-2011 04:59 PM

I really feel like Quade just bet his job on this ninth inning.

DaveWadding 07-15-2011 05:00 PM

Praise Jesus for Sean Marshall.

RP 07-15-2011 05:00 PM

Sean Marshall is money

Skippord 07-15-2011 05:01 PM

I love the broadcasters, they just play a super annoying song everytime they go to the bullpen and it makes me want to kill myself

Skippord 07-15-2011 05:02 PM

damn, was hoping for a home run

Damian Rey 07-15-2011 05:50 PM

I personally cannot stand the Marlins announcers.

ClockShot 07-15-2011 09:34 PM

Doug Melvin is a genius.

He renegotiated K-Rod's contract. He kicked the buyout up from $3.5 mil. to $4 mil. and K-Rod can be used anytime during the game in exchange for turning that games finished vesting option into a mutual option.

Evil Vito 07-15-2011 09:38 PM

<font color=goldenrod>It's a concession that makes sense from K-Rod's perspective, since there was no way in hell he was gonna finish 21 games otherwise. Now if Axford blows, K-Rod can get more saves with no consequence.</font>

Evil Vito 07-15-2011 09:44 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Some Mets fans are gonna wonder why Alderson didn't ask K-Rod to drop his option...but there is no chance it would have happened. Getting traded caused K-Rod to lose negotiating flexibility. On the Mets, there was zero reason to willingly drop the option since he'd be guaranteed to either finish enough games for it to vest or he'd get moved to set-up and file a grievance to get the money either way.</font>

Damian Rey 07-15-2011 09:46 PM

Great move by Melvin. Love how aggressive he can be. I have very little doubt that Melvin and Boras didn't have, at the very least, the parameters of this recent contract restructuring worked out prior to the deal.

Good deal for both sides. KRod gets the chance to finish more games, and the Brewers don't have to foot that atrocious bill. Someone should have sent Minaya to the school Melvin went to.

Emperor Smeat 07-15-2011 11:26 PM

Braves become the 3rd team in baseball history to reach 10,000 wins after beating the Nationals 11-1 today.

Only the Giants and Cubs have more wins while I think the Phillies are still the only team with 10,000 losses.

I think the next team closet to 10,000 is the Yankees but they are around 5-10 years away from reaching it while the next closet for 10,000 losses (Orioles or Cubs) needs almost a decade to reach that one.

Evil Vito 07-16-2011 01:18 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Unless you're a fan of one of the other NL Central teams - if you aren't rooting for the Pirates, you have no soul.</font>

RP 07-16-2011 01:19 PM

Great start Carlos. Pick up right where Marmol left off. Lets just get rid of all Carlos's please.

Boomer 07-16-2011 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3580121)
Braves become the 3rd team in baseball history to reach 10,000 wins after beating the Nationals 11-1 today.

Only the Giants and Cubs have more wins while I think the Phillies are still the only team with 10,000 losses.

I think the next team closet to 10,000 is the Yankees but they are around 5-10 years away from reaching it while the next closet for 10,000 losses (Orioles or Cubs) needs almost a decade to reach that one.

The Braves will get to 10,000 losses this year too. They aren't far off.

Evil Vito 07-16-2011 01:46 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Beltran out today with flu-like symptoms. So the Mets are trotting out this lineup against Cole Hamels:

1. Angel Pagan, CF
2. Justin Turner, 2B
3. Scott Hairston, RF
4. Daniel Murphy, 3B
5. Jason Bay, LF
6. Ronny Paulino, C
7. Nick Evans, 1B
8. Ruben Tejada, SS
9. Jon Niese, P

And of course it's the FOX game, so I won't even have the SNY team to keep me entertained.</font>

RP 07-16-2011 02:32 PM

What a pathetic peice of shit team. Seriously. What a joke.

Gertner 07-16-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 3579782)
Gertie what's the word on Bautista? That slide was nasty.

From what I've heard, he'll be held out of the Yankees series and return for the Seattle series on Tuesday. Small chance of his return Sunday.

RP 07-16-2011 03:03 PM

Mike Stanton is destroying lives in Chicago right now.

Evil Vito 07-16-2011 06:26 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Holy shit Scott Hairston.

Carlos Who?</font> :shifty:

Emperor Smeat 07-16-2011 08:02 PM

:eek: Lackey has managed to pitch 2 good games in a row and that is not saying much considering how awful or inconsistent he's been at times.

He had his typical horrible inning with today occurring in the 1st but after stopped Tampa from doing any more damage.

Damian Rey 07-16-2011 08:23 PM

Good for lackey. They are going to need him to pitch decent enough down the stretch to remain ahead of the Yankees, and possibly the Rays. Once they get into the playoffs, though, I don't see where Lackey figures.

ClockShot 07-16-2011 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22 (Post 3580350)
Beltran out today with flu-like symptoms. So the Mets are trotting out this lineup against Cole Hamels:

1. Angel Pagan, CF
2. Justin Turner, 2B
3. Scott Hairston, RF
4. Daniel Murphy, 3B
5. Jason Bay, LF
6. Ronny Paulino, C
7. Nick Evans, 1B
8. Ruben Tejada, SS
9. Jon Niese, P

And of course it's the FOX game, so I won't even have the SNY team to keep me entertained.


:rofl:

Minus the pitcher, this should be the A lineup since they sent Hamels packing early and kicked ass at the same time today.

Emperor Smeat 07-16-2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3580564)
Good for lackey. They are going to need him to pitch decent enough down the stretch to remain ahead of the Yankees, and possibly the Rays. Once they get into the playoffs, though, I don't see where Lackey figures.

It depends on Buccholz but right now Lackey would be the #4 guy. Buccholz got his return pushed back to around late August to early September which now leave him with just a few starts to get back to his old self before the playoffs.

The bigger concern is Lester because as long as he doesn't have a set back, then the Red Sox don't have to suddenly panic at the trade deadline to boost the rotation.

Damian Rey 07-16-2011 08:42 PM

I think they should at least look for a solid middle of the rotation starter. Buccholz is going to need some time to get back into the swing of things, and having a solid starter in the rotation would be a wise move.

Evil Vito 07-16-2011 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 3580566)
:rofl:

Minus the pitcher, this should be the A lineup since they sent Hamels packing early and kicked ass at the same time today.

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, incredible game. And Hairston drove in a career-high 5 runs.

Alright, it's safe to trade Beltran now. We got this.</font> :cool: :shifty:

Damian Rey 07-16-2011 09:48 PM

The Padres brought their hitting sticks to the ballpark this afternoon. They;ve tagged Zito for 2 three run homers and an RBI single ad hold a 7-1 lead in the bottom of the 4th. Loving this.

RP 07-17-2011 01:42 PM

There's a deal on the table for Aramis Ramirez to go to the Angels for two prospects, one possibly being Chris Schnoll and the other being a top 15 prospect. They are waiting for Ramirez to decide if he wants to waive his NTC.

RP 07-17-2011 01:55 PM

I hope it's Tyler Chatwood

Boomer 07-17-2011 05:14 PM

I had my doubts about Freddie Freeman starting as a rookie at first this year, but he is playing ridiculously good baseball right now. Unfortunately, Jason Heyward is having a horrible second year. He isn't squaring up balls very often, and seems to roll out to second at least once a game.

owenbrown 07-18-2011 01:12 AM

Red Sox-Rays now in the 15th inning at 12:12 am central time score is 0-0 geez

Emperor Smeat 07-18-2011 01:54 AM

Epic pitching matchup that finally ended 1-0 Red Sox after 16 innings.

The worst part is the Rays won't have much of a bullpen for Monday's game against the Yankees while the Red Sox still need to travel for their game against Baltimore.

MVP 07-18-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3580571)
I think they should at least look for a solid middle of the rotation starter. Buccholz is going to need some time to get back into the swing of things, and having a solid starter in the rotation would be a wise move.

Yeah, I'm still for the Red Sox acquiring another starter rather than a right-handed bat. Buchholz is going to have a difficult time getting back to his old self in September after dealing with a back injury, and I think it's only a matter of time before Wakefield starts falling apart since he hasn't been good in the 2nd half for a number of years now, not surprisingly given his age.

Droford 07-18-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3581703)
Epic pitching matchup that finally ended 1-0 Red Sox after 16 innings.

The worst part is the Rays won't have much of a bullpen for Monday's game against the Yankees while the Red Sox still need to travel for their game against Baltimore.

Im happy about that. Anything to help the Os out after they just got on a 2 game winning streak for the first time in a month is fine by me.

parkmania 07-19-2011 01:13 PM

If the Pirates can stay within reach of the NL Central lead over the next month, they MIGHT just have a chance.

Thursday they have an off day, then play 20 consecutive days (the most allowed by the agreement with MLBPA) - including 3 at home vs the Cardinals, 3 at home vs the Padres, 3 games in Philly, 3 in SF, and 4 in ATL. This is definitely MAKE IT OR BREAK IT for the Battlin' Bucs.

Nervous Ferret 07-19-2011 01:18 PM

Pirates are crazy, who the hell even pitches for them? I know the black kid McDonald, but I don't think he's really been anything special. I guess Morton and Maholm have apparently done well. Who else is in their rotation? Jeff Karstens? Ohlendorff? No idea


Dirty bullpen and some crazy nice young bats though


Edit

Forgot about Correjia (sp) is having a pretty nice year

Damian Rey 07-19-2011 01:24 PM

I'm pulling for the Pirates. An old friend of mine who's dad I've known since I was a kid is a big time Pirates fan, and I know it'd make his day if they were able to somehow find their way into the playoffs.

parkmania 07-19-2011 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mallards59 (Post 3582775)
Pirates are crazy, who the hell even pitches for them? I know the black kid McDonald, but I don't think he's really been anything special. I guess Morton and Maholm have apparently done well. Who else is in their rotation? Jeff Karstens? Ohlendorff? No idea

1. Correia (11-7, 4.04 ERA)
2. Maholm (6-9, 3.06)
3. Morton (8-5, 3.62)
4. McDonald (5-4, 4.42)
5. Karstens (8-4, 2.34)

Evan Meek (1-1, 3.15) is currently on the 15-day DL (since June 10). for the second time this season. Ross Ohlendorf (0-0, 7.27 in 2 starts) has been on the 60-day DL since VERY early in the season.

DaveWadding 07-19-2011 03:53 PM

The Pirates are 15-6 against shitty teams (read: the Cubs and the Astros) and 35-38 against everyone else.

Damian Rey 07-19-2011 03:54 PM

They're basically making due with a respectable, non spectacular pitching staff. I'd be willing to bet they're and at least above average team defensively considering all of their starters are pitch to contact guys who won't miss many bats.

Damian Rey 07-19-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3582896)
The Pirates are 15-6 against shitty teams (read: the Cubs and the Astros) and 35-38 against everyone else.

Sounds like the 2010 Reds :shifty:

Aguakate 07-19-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3582896)
The Pirates are 15-6 against shitty teams (read: the Cubs and the Astros) and 35-38 against everyone else.

...If you beat teams you SHOULD beat, and maintain a .500 average against winning teams, you win the NL Central.

weather vane 07-19-2011 05:55 PM

GO PIRATES!

Damian Rey 07-20-2011 12:27 PM

I wish next week would hurry the fuck up and get here. Outside of a few glimmers of hope (Cameron Maybin's development, Chase Headley's emergence, etc.), watching the Padres has been a chore in and of itself. Not only are they bad, but they're unexciting. I just want them to trade their best pieces so I can see some young guys come up and get excited for the possible prospects they recieve.

Ermaximus 07-20-2011 01:39 PM

The Pirates in first place, who knew? I'm quite excited really. Going to follow them more now rather than the Braves. Still rooting for both teams though.

Innovator 07-20-2011 03:32 PM

http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/...if?w=256&h=192

I hope I never get tired of seeing this.

Emperor Smeat 07-20-2011 03:42 PM

The Pirates might be in first place but there is still the annual trade deadline deals left that the Pirates love to do each year although the backlash would be huge if the team dismantles again for no real reason like every year.

That deadline and not their 20 game stretch is probably the biggest obstacle left for them reaching the playoffs or having a winning record.

Damian Rey 07-20-2011 03:49 PM

It has been stated in several outlets that the Pirates are looking to add pitching and possibly a LF bat. They're not trading anyone this season. As long as they don't mortgage their future, they're going to make a move to get better.

DaveWadding 07-20-2011 07:00 PM

Good news for our favorite Mets fan:

According to Buster Olney of ESPN.com, the Mets are now "100 percent certain" that they will not trade Jose Reyes before the deadline.

That settles that. It wasn't too long ago that many assumed that a trade was a foregone conclusion, but Olney writes that Reyes has "changed their minds." The Mets are a longshot to contend for a playoff spot this season, but parting with Reyes would almost certainly cause an uproar in the fanbase which would be difficult for the new front office to recover from.

Damian Rey 07-20-2011 07:05 PM

Just imagine the uproar the fans will emit when Reyes walks for a monstrous contract elsewhere, and the Mets are left hoping the two draft picks they get will turn out.

Evil Vito 07-20-2011 09:54 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I wouldn't write off the Mets being able to re-sign Reyes. K-Rod's monster option is off the table and the bloated contracts of Beltran, Perez, Castillo, etc. are coming off the books. Add that to the fact that Reyes clearly wants to stay and his agent has been known to negotiate team-friendly deals and I think they'll work something out.

I'd guess the big "sticking point" is years. I'd think the Mets will need to wind up guaranteeing a 6th year to seal the deal but who knows. Alderson's normally not one to ink huge contracts, but Einhorn will be kicking in more capital so the money to retain Reyes is there and keeping him will be huge from a ticket sale perspective. Not to mention the free agent market this year is going to be incredibly weak anyway.</font>

DaveWadding 07-20-2011 10:24 PM

I hope the Mets do resign Reyes. I wouldn't want to hear you cry about it all offseason.

DaveWadding 07-20-2011 10:48 PM

Stephen Drew just broke something.

DaveWadding 07-21-2011 05:38 PM

Yep, his ankle. Done for the season. Goodbye playoffs.

Gertner 07-21-2011 05:47 PM

Jays sweep the Mariners and their bullpen somehow manages not to fuck things up.

parkmania 07-21-2011 08:07 PM

Pirates sign Jason Grilli.

I guess they're gonna use him to set up Hanrahan.

Damian Rey 07-21-2011 09:30 PM

I think there's a good chance the Mets resign him, but if they don't get it done during their exlcusive negotiating period, they're going to be in trouble. There are a few teams that could sweep in and sign him.

In Padres news, rumors are swirling that Ryan Ludwick being traded to the Indians is close to being finalized. Also, Anthony Rizzo, the 1st baseman the Padres received in the 3 fo 1 Adrian Gonzalez deal, has been sent back to AAA Tuscon, while Kyle Blanks, for top Padres prospect, has been recalled. Blanks has ridiculous power, He struggled a lot last year before getting hurt. I'm hoping he finds his stroke, because when he's on, the ball goes a long way.

Aguakate 07-21-2011 10:00 PM

Whatever happens with Reyes, I'm sure it'll be the best thing for the Mets, since Alderson is in charge, and he's been there, done that.

Now, the Mets HAVE to do something about David Wright...dude's fallen off the radar HARD...they gotta get him back into it...

DaveWadding 07-21-2011 10:13 PM

What are you talking about? Wright has been injured this year. Period. Last year was pretty much a regular year in his career.

Aguakate 07-21-2011 10:16 PM

...IDK, I just feel David Wright hasn't lived up to expectations...you don't hear about him as much the last couple years as you did before...maybe it's the fact he's been injured, and I've forgotten him, who knows...

Damian Rey 07-21-2011 10:37 PM

A lot of it has to do with the Mets not being a playoff front runner, and playing second fiddle to the Yankees.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...righda03.shtml

The guy had one "bad" year, but even then, the only thing that took a dip was his HR totals. Everything else was on par. If the Mets were playoff contenders, Wright would be heard from more often. The guy is arguably the best 3rd baseman in the National League.

DaveWadding 07-21-2011 10:50 PM

I would say that he is. With no question. Who's better?

Evil Vito 07-21-2011 10:51 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Wright's on tap to return tomorrow, which will be excellent.

Today was probably Beltran's last home game as a Met. :( Fucking crazy to think that I was only a sophomore in high school when he signed his huge contract. :o Time flies.</font>

DaveWadding 07-21-2011 11:04 PM

I thought you were 12?

Aguakate 07-22-2011 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 3584834)
I would say that he is. With no question. Who's better?

Offensively, some would give Aramis Ramirez an honorable mention...but he's just so streaky...

Damian Rey 07-22-2011 12:06 AM

Wright is a better player than Ramirez. He's a better defender, has more speed, and is a more complete player in general. Not to say Ramirez isn't good, 'cause he's a stud. But I'd take Wright over him any day.

DaveWadding 07-22-2011 12:07 AM

As a Cubs fan, so would I.

Damian Rey 07-22-2011 12:09 AM

I respect your objectivity.

Aguakate 07-22-2011 12:14 AM

I wouldn't take anyone over Ramirez RIGHT NOW, but of course, he's in the middle of a hot streak...

...now, 2 weeks from now or so, when he's in the middle of one of his weeks-long slumps, I'll probably feel otherwise...


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