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XL 10-07-2023 07:54 AM

Wow that Collision rating is really poor. Competing with Rampage?

Verbose Minch 10-11-2023 04:25 PM

Just saw the ratings for last night. Wrestling is so fucking dead lol. WWE pulled out every stop humanly possible and couldn't get a million. AEW pulled just over half a mil. It's literally just two retards fighting in the playground at this point.

Sepholio 10-11-2023 04:34 PM

Wrestling on tuesdays usually draws 800k lately, give or take. 1.53 million people watched collectively last night. Against playoff baseball. I don't know how your take away from that is that wrestling is dead.

Verbose Minch 10-11-2023 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633614)
Wrestling on tuesdays usually draws 800k lately, give or take. 1.53 million people watched collectively last night. Against playoff baseball. I don't know how your take away from that is that wrestling is dead.

I really don't think there's much crossover between the fanbase of MLB playoff baseball and wrestling fans. 1.53 million people watching with a bunch of commercial free time, multiple title shots, John Cena, Undertaker, etc is not good. Like at all lol

weather vane 10-11-2023 04:41 PM

Love when people say wrestling is dead.

Sepholio 10-11-2023 04:42 PM

You are literally on a message board where pretty much everyone that watches wrestling regularly also posts in the baseball thread daily. Not much crossover. lol k.

Verbose Minch 10-11-2023 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633617)
You are literally on a message board where pretty much everyone that watches wrestling regularly also posts in the baseball thread daily. Not much crossover. lol k.

A message board based on wrestling, which is also close to dead. Very good point

Sepholio 10-11-2023 04:56 PM

You're totally right. It's simply coincidence that the people who like baseball and wrestling are all that's left.

Sepholio 10-11-2023 04:58 PM

I don't care about baseball therefor no one else who likes wrestling cares about baseball either.

That's you. That's what you sound like.

Verbose Minch 10-11-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633621)
I don't care about baseball therefor no one else who likes wrestling cares about baseball either.

That's you. That's what you sound like.

TPWW is not the amazing barometer of fandom you seem to think it is. Two blowout playoff games aren't the reason NXT only drew like 60k more viewers, and AEW lost 200k. Both companies hotshotted just about everything they could, and it didn't move the needle at all.

There's something on tv almost every night you could use to excuse current day ratings.

xrodmuc316 10-11-2023 05:16 PM

NXT also won in the demo, if demos still matter (we know they don't unless AEW can brag on it :rofl: ).

Mr. Nerfect 10-11-2023 09:07 PM

Sports isn’t as big a factor with wrestling as once suspected. Wrestling impacts wrestling. NXT spanked them.

Mr. Nerfect 10-11-2023 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5633624)
NXT also won in the demo, if demos still matter (we know they don't unless AEW can brag on it :rofl: ).

Bingo.

Verbose Minch 10-11-2023 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5633637)
Sports isn’t as big a factor with wrestling as once suspected. Wrestling impacts wrestling. NXT spanked them.

Especially given baseball's recent struggles with getting viewers itself. I could see game 7 of the NBA finals, or some of the marquee NFL games making a minor dent, but that's about the extent. Rasslin fans are generally stinky gleeborg nerds who aren't into sports, they just want to see Kenny Omega holding up a "heckin trans rights" sign and clap for Canadian destroyers

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2023 12:01 AM

Did they really have Cena and Taker show up on NXT? Jesus. Lol

That shit definitely should have hit a million.

drave 10-12-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5633673)
Did they really have Cena and Taker show up on NXT? Jesus. Lol

That shit definitely should have hit a million.

They had to, bruh. They herd that Title Twosday was on and was like


ERMERGERRRRD!!

Was their only option.











lol

Splaya 10-12-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Verbose Minch (Post 5633615)
I really don't think there's much crossover between the fanbase of MLB playoff baseball and wrestling fans. 1.53 million people watching with a bunch of commercial free time, multiple title shots, John Cena, Undertaker, etc is not good. Like at all lol

Like everyone I know that watches wrestling is also big into other sports, especially baseball.

Is this Noid on a different name?

Splaya 10-12-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5633637)
Sports isn’t as big a factor with wrestling as once suspected. Wrestling impacts wrestling. NXT spanked them.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

xrodmuc316 10-12-2023 11:19 AM

Gotta love the people mad that WWE used main roster stars on NXT to be unfair to AEW. Only AEW is allowed to use WWE main roster stars on their show!

Edge
Christian
Chris Jericho
Daniel Bryan
Paige

3 people who have main evented Wrestlemania, all 5 who were World Champs in FEDBAD. Couldn't beat Developmental, couldn't even get 65% of what hip toss school got. Classic Cultists lol

drave 10-12-2023 12:27 PM

why did they even bring taker and cena to nxt anyway? i legit dont know.


also, lol at anyone trying to compare those 5 names to taker OR cena, alone. Daniel Bryan is the only real notable name there. As great as he is, he's still nothing compared to cena or taker, IMO.

xrodmuc316 10-12-2023 01:21 PM

Why not, is WWE just supposed to roll over because AEW is on? Cena and Taker mixing it up with Bron and Melo only helps Bron and Melo.

Without using WWE Main Roster stars, would AEW even still be on TV? Maybe WWE loaded up the show to embarrass the idiot owner of AEW who personal takes cheap shots at WWE constantly. He called Shawn Michaels a bald asshole on Twitter, because Shawn books a wrestling show? You can bet your ass he would sign Shawn Michaels in a heartbeat if he could, just to tell Shawn what a great fan he is and to give him awkward hugs.

drave 10-12-2023 01:44 PM

So they pulled two of their biggest (former) stars "because AEW"?

drave 10-12-2023 01:45 PM

Also, I didn't think NXT/WWE needed to do anything at all because AEW is on?


Wrestling tribalism is fucking weird man. Weirder than TK on a coke binge.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 01:48 PM

It's weird that it's bad for WWE to use their old talent to boost ratings but AEW using old WWE talent is fine.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 01:49 PM

*insert fishing pole sounds here*

drave 10-12-2023 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633739)
It's weird that it's bad for WWE to use their old talent to boost ratings but AEW using old WWE talent is fine.

ahem.... "main roster stars" sir.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 01:57 PM

*more casting noises go here*

Still applies.

Hell we aren't even touching on AEW having to do a pre-show for a TV show and calling in legends from other promotions to boost it up. In fact the AEW pre-show was an ROH guy vs a NJPW guy. AEW wasn't even involved. That's pure desperation!

drave 10-12-2023 01:58 PM

wrasslin is dead, long live r-a-s-s-l-i-n

Sepholio 10-12-2023 02:01 PM

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#1-norm-fan 10-12-2023 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633739)
It's weird that it's bad for WWE to use their old talent to boost ratings but AEW using old WWE talent is fine.

Are people actually saying it was bad for WWE to do it or is this discussion stemming from a strawman born out of bad reading comprehension?

Personally, if either side is gonna use legends in this war, I’d rather see The Boogie Woogie Man shuck and jive, ya feel me my brotha?

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2023 02:41 PM

Why not bring back Marko Stunt just to see what kind of shapes Ron Garvin can twist him into? That’ll draw a million.

xrodmuc316 10-12-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633739)
It's weird that it's bad for WWE to use their old talent to boost ratings but AEW using old WWE talent is fine.

Ding Ding Ding.

Nobody would have even brought that up if not for Tiny Khan and his minions acting like WWE had no right to book their own people on their own show.

I posted this in the cocaine thread, but is it any surprise how unaware the cultist are when their fearless leader is bragging about ending John Cena's and Undertaker's ratings streak?

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5633725)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week, 2 active decades-long ratings streaks from 2 great legends were ended<br>With all due respect, until this week's head-to-head AEW on TBS vs WWE on USA, neither John Cena nor Undertaker had ever been on a WWE show with under 1 million total viewers + under 400k in the demo</p>&mdash; Tony Khan (@TonyKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyKhan/status/1712494953270522170?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This motherfucker is more bitter than spoiled milk and vinegar


Sepholio 10-12-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5633757)
Are people actually saying it was bad for WWE to do it or is this discussion stemming from a strawman born out of bad reading comprehension?

Personally, if either side is gonna use legends in this war, I’d rather see The Boogie Woogie Man shuck and jive, ya feel me my brotha?

I dont think anyone here is saying it, but there is a metric shitload of people yammering on about it on social media.

My takeaway from that is that TPWW is smarter than the wider IWC for the most part.

Splaya 10-12-2023 02:49 PM

It was a good night of wrestling and there has been a great amount of discussion from it since.

I will say...if WWE had just run a normal NXT show (still using Dom and Becky as their respective champions) AND had still beat AEW, it might have been time for Tiny to hang it up.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5633758)
Why not bring back Marko Stunt just to see what kind of shapes Ron Garvin can twist him into? That’ll draw a million.

No need to call back Stunt. Have him do it to Nick Wayne, Hook or Darby Allin.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 02:52 PM

Actually feed Jungle Jobber to the Hands of Stone too.

Sepholio 10-12-2023 02:55 PM

AEW should bring Magnum T.A. out of retirement for a match. That'll def boost ratings.

drave 10-12-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Splaya (Post 5633762)
It was a good night of wrestling and there has been a great amount of discussion from it since.

I will say...if WWE had just run a normal NXT show (still using Dom and Becky as their respective champions) AND had still beat AEW, it might have been time for Tiny to hang it up.

The end result would have been the same.


Why did they feel like they needed to though? Surely it isn't "because".

#1-norm-fan 10-12-2023 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5633767)
AEW should bring Magnum T.A. out of retirement for a match. That'll def boost ratings.

Magnum TA has aged really well over the past 40 years but that’s only because he already looked 65 when he was 25.

Mr. Nerfect 10-12-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Splaya (Post 5633686)
Like everyone I know that watches wrestling is also big into other sports, especially baseball.

Is this Noid on a different name?

Your anecdotal bullshit doesn’t change the numbers. The ratings lately have proven that sports doesn’t impact wrestling that much.


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