Is that what he is now? From the limited clips I've seen it seems quite cringey.

I guess if they're going with Roman vs Rock then that lines up.

Yes. That show needs help. Anyone but Seth.

I think they’re about to get Orton and Punk in to help them out.

Will they acknowledge him as the lineal AEW Champion? Maybe that's how we get the belt off Seth.

I think Orton comes back to join Cody’s team in War Games. Not holding out much hope for a Punk return.

Nah, I think they totally no-sell AEW.

Eh, likely. For the best, winning the secondary world title would be a step down.

You might get a reference to it being a useless piece of tin and him wanting to win his first real championship in over a decade or something.

Dynamite continues to go down in the ratings while the lead-in remains virtually the same.

Thread looks open to me

Sorry, should have said archived, like AEW's audience, participation in this thread setting record lows!

Do you think people here still love CM Punk now that he went back to the E? He is drawing better ratings nowadays :rofl:

CM Punk is doing the best babyface work of his career.

NXT got 957k viewers without LA as a market, since they were covering the wildfires there. Tony Khan and Dave Meltzer grieving right now.

I missed this thread

My love for you is like a truck Dave Meltzer
Would you like some making fuck Dave Meltzer

WWE and Fightful are claiming 2.6 million views for Raw on Netflix and 4.9 Worldwide

SHAMBLES!!!!1!

That’s an outstanding number. I guessed something like 3.2 million worldwide. 4.9 million is something like 1.7% of Netflix subscriptions. And apparently that doesn’t count total viewers, so it could be closer to 6 million people watching.

Eerily quiet on Dynamite MAX numbers.

AEW is back! 679k viewers.

Is 4.9m impressive? Across the world?

It is better than the 60,000 reported on Max for Dynamite :rofl:

There’s no way it’s that high.

It doesn’t sound like a lot, but I think it’s a solid number. I was predicting about 3.2 million for them. About 60% of the audience in the US. Most people would have already been watching. About 2 million in the US for Raw.

4.9 million is about 1.6% of Netflix subscribers worldwide.

Being generous to AEW, divide that by 3 to get a proportionate AEW number. I doubt they’re getting 1.6 million on Max lol. And that’s ignoring 10 million people.

4.9 mil is very low by netflix standards. Theyve canceled shows for 5 mil. I wouldnt panic though. Several markets cant watch raw on netflix yet so its not the full picture. As the contracts come up the number will grow.

This shouldn't need to be said but Raw in no way is competing with AEW for anything other than fake internet points and any comparison between the two is as moot as comparing RAW to AWA reruns on espn 2.

For comparison squid games season 2 topped the most recent netflix chart at over 26 million views. 4.9 million would be out be outside of the top 10 by 2.6 million.

And it is fairly surprising how low that initial number is. Cable should have been a significant limiter on views the same way nfl numbers on netflix have been able to be so massive. 25 mil or whatever that number was.


I didnt expect 20 million but 8 definitely. I thought low end top 10. And im certain netflix did too. Im sure theyre feeling the pressure to move eyeballs. Likely theyre going to do some hotshotting to drive up new viewers. Luckly hot shots leading into mania is traditional so no one will notice.

Global | this week
Top 10 Shows overview
Ranking Views
01
American Primeval: Limited Series
2 14,300,000
02
XO, Kitty: Season 2
1 14,200,000
03
Missing You: Limited Series
3 5,600,000
04
Raw: 2025 January 13, 2025
1 3,700,000
05
Jerry Springer: Fights, Camera, Action: Limited Series
2 3,500,000
06
XO, Kitty: Season 1
5 3,100,000
07
The Night Agent: Season 1
13 2,400,000
08
The Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live: Season 1
1 2,300,000
09
I AM A KILLER: Season 6
1 2,300,000
10
Castlevania: Nocturne: Season 2
1 2,300,000

That is from Netflix, so if 3.7 million for the 2nd week was 4th, now sure where you are getting 4.9 million would be 2.6 million away from even cracking the top 10.

Took me a minute but I see how you got that list. Youre sorting by series on Todum yeah? That excludes events and films. Im also going off of RAWs debut where they got the 4.9

(Theyre down from the debut btw. Didnt realize that. I only track the number every week or two. I was waiting for the finals to come out on tuesday to follow up.)

I can’t imagine anything on Netflix getting that many viewers. The US still has more cable subscribers than Netflix ones, yeah?

If hot-shotting at this time of year is traditional and no one will notice, what’s the point of doing it for Netflix? They’d be doing it anyway. :p

That list says 3.7 Million, from Netflix.com, week 2. That is shows only though, that is correct. They don't have a shows and movies list, but there were 4 movies that did more views, so Raw would be 8th overall if they had that list option.

It would be compared to shows anyway. If they get the PLE deal after Peacock, I can see WrestleMania and the like being compared to movies.

I’m not taking about the number as a comparison to AEW.

Most likely me not having a firm enough grasp on the viewership but I thought the point of being on Netflix was the huge potential audience. Less than 5m and less than 2% of potential audience seems really disappointing.

Lol, only my last paragraph compares it to AEW. When you consider the existent Raw audience in the US, figure in that it’s going to be more popular there than anywhere else (about 60%, as I said), then the numbers they’re getting are great.

I don’t know what percentage of Netflix subscribers watching pro-wrestling people expected. 2% seems like a generous amount to me, realistically speaking.

And this is why I compared them to AEW. What do you think 600k out of 60 million homes is? They weren’t going to get 10 million homes watching Raw live.

well you are always wrong...

NETFLIX IN SHAMBLES!

But, muh demos?