Don't know why you'd do that anyway. Max streaming is supplimental to it's screenings, completely different scenario to WWE's complete worldwide transplant to Netflix.

AEW's Max viewing figures are probably negligable given that it hasn't had much effect on TV ratings. It just stands to make Max a viable service for people who don't have cable in the future.

How can we determine whether this thing is a success until we know how many 49 yr old men are watching?

MUH DEMONS IN SHAMBLES!!!!1!!!1

49 YEAR OLD MEN IN SHAMBLES!!!!!!!


wrasslin in SHAMBLES!!!!

Wrestling is fine, despite AEW’s best efforts.

AEW sucks. There is not a single interesting thing on their shows. I don't watch anymore, but still read the results for Dynamite. I don't even bother to do that with Collision. Nothing happens ever, and gymnastic routines that are called "Bangers" but advance nothing at all.

Knowing how many people want out and are being refused and just kept locked away in Tony's vault is poetically funny. All the original bluster about AEW treating wrestlers good unlike that evil WWE turned out to be complete bullshit, just like so many of their original mission statement goals.

AEW wanted to kill WWE, but really all they did was make WWE the babyface while Tony pretty much pillage NJPW and killed the Indies in the US.

AEW is a lame.

Truth.

R-Truth?

Nah, just plain ol’ regular truth. As opposed to plain ol’ regular R-Truth.

This is the ratings thread

In the age of streaming, is ratings still a thing? XD

Yeah, kind of.

TV deals are still a massive source of revenue, advertisers pay for people to look at adverts. Streaming can make these companies money but it's mostly been companies just burning venture capital. Netflix getting WWE probably won't make money for them, but it is a logistical step into doing live broadcasting.

Nielsen has agreed to cover streaming. The services do release their numbers. AEW’s are just being guarded because they suck so bad.

Dave Meltzer has tried to draw a link between the numbers for Dynamite not being released and UFC PPV that did “tremendous” being kept quiet. “Most likely” he says. Of course, if the numbers were actually good, he would have been leaked them or his AEW sources would have told him definitively they can’t talk about them. But that’s not the case, is it?

“Most likely” he says.

604k viewers for Dynamite. The Netflix bump is wearing off.

Collision did 197k viewers.

Dynamite did 605k viewers. It’s down about 200k from last year.

579k for Dynamite.

I love that you're still here fighting the good fight.

If anyone accidentally stumbles upon these forums, I want them to be able to see the truth.

More people stumble upon this forum than watch AEW :rofl::rofl::rofl:

You need to add the MAX numbers to that, xrod. Oh, it doesn’t make a difference?

This is why it’s important to take down Dave. Here’s him on the Collision ratings:

“Collision did 502K/0.21, don't have the chart. NBA lead-in of course helped a lot really the key given it was out of its regular time slot. That doesn't include MAX, so likely the biggest numbers since the early weeks of the show if you factor that in. First quarter (Omega & Ospreay vs. Takeshita & Fletcher) topped 1 million, but that's not a surprise.”

* He doesn’t have the chart? Where does he get his numbers from? It’s not that it’s charted that’s important, it’s that he clearly just gets his numbers fed to him as opposed to from a primary source.

* The NBA helped a lot gives way to it being out of its usual time slot in Dave’s second “sentence.” Dismissing its artificial boost to frame it as being impeded. Never mind AEW foolishly booked Grand Slam for that weekend in the first place. Poor AEW, being so late at night with the NBA All-Star lead-in giving it the healthiest start for it to ruin.

* He references MAX viewers despite no numbers ever being released. I’m sure both MAX viewers are happy to be included, but Dave is trying to give it a boost by saying “if you factor that in.” What in? What numbers are there to actually factor in? They’re completely phantom.

* He’s still trying to force Ospreay & Omega as draws. The lead-in did huge because of the NBA. He frames it ambiguously like it’s not a surprise their segment did those numbers without clarifying that it’s solely because of the lead-in. His readers WILL latch on to that. Many still try to claim that Omega is a draw.

There’s literally something wrong with every sentence (every run-on sentence) this cunt writes to smokescreen for this company. It’s beyond disingenuous. It’s deliberately misleading and poisons the discussion around the subjects.

Dave has gone into overdrive defending AEW’s falling numbers. :lol:

563k for Dynamite.

"Collision peaked at a Million viewers!"

It started with a million viewers and within 8 minutes of Kenny Omega and Will Ospreay, they lost 350,000 viewers.

The last Quarter hour did 294,000 TOTAL viewers, but the "reporting" says AEW thinks it was a huge success.

Pyramid Scheme.

He’s flipping out at people over Twitter telling them to “look at logic” and in the next breath is saying “We literally don’t know” when it comes to the heft of the MAX numbers. If they were substantial, we’d know about them. If there was interest in AEW, all metrics wouldn’t be rapidly declining. Look at logic, Dave.

The Collision rating apologetics are amazing. The number started off big because of the NBA, then it dropped like a ski slope because the product sucks.

The ratings predictably dropped off huge for Roderick Strong vs. Orange Cassidy and whatever followed with Kenny Omega. The show ended at around 467k. That’s where it’s heading. Remember when the sickos tried to convince people Orange Cassidy and Kenny Omega were stars?

Sorry, who's Dave?

GD, Rog. GD.

Lol the ratings discourse is better than the actual content the company produces.

Meltzer on NXT: NXT was up to 799K/0.19 last night.

Meltzer on AEW: AEW did 598K/0.18, that’s with West Coast at 5p.m., obviously not including MAX. Beat everything on cable but NBA and Fox News.

Someone pointed out that there’s a top ten sports list on MAX and AEW isn’t on it.

Meltzer is so bitter that NXT kills AEW now :rofl:

I can’t wait for the bragging if Dynamite beats EVOLVE.

I wish we had some discourse on here

EVOLVE has 286k on YouTube. If that international audience is 40% or 50% of the Tubi audience, then it wouldn’t be surprising to discover it got between 572k and 715k total on Tubi.

Dave Meltzer is losing his mind over the ratings this week. :lol:

Lol, one of the sickos lied that AEW gets about 500k viewers each week on MAX. I think they meant to say it has had 500k views altogether.

Dave Meltzer is losing his mind over the ratings this week. :lol:

Look folks, the ratings have to go down before they go back up. We are going to see the biggest boom period in wrestling like never before. Only the weak will lose!

What people don’t understand is that while ratings and attendance are going down, PPV, merchandise and MAX numbers are going up. Trust us!