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Kalyx triaD 04-20-2010 01:40 PM
LOVE the promo art filter.

RoXer 04-20-2010 02:40 PM
That tournament mode is nice.

It will not be a part of our tournament though.

Kalyx triaD 04-20-2010 02:48 PM
Being that you can invite players to watch a replay with you I am open to 'adopting' a TPdubber who wants some training and pointers to improve their game before the tourny. We can have exclusive sessions and analyze vids and I'll do my best to make you dangerous.

If I can get an afro-headed stoner from being a joke in Soulcalibur 4 to being a legit competitor in a few weeks, I can train anybody.

Khuntry, RoXer, and Funky should adopt a member as well. We can make it a project. Take the bottom tier players and see what we can do with them.

My Nuts 04-20-2010 03:14 PM
Adopt my nuts in yr. mouth

Kalyx triaD 04-21-2010 10:51 PM
Quote:
Well then, first off tell us about the adjustments to Cammy.

Okada:
One of the first adjustments we made was to some of her moves that were just simply strong. Like the Cannon Spike, which had too much offensive power. But we have shortened the start-up for some of her moves that were a bit difficult to use, especially her Spin Knuckle, which should be much easier to use now.

Tamamura:
For her normals, we've given her a bit more priority on her normals. For example, her Far Standing Hard Kick now has anti-air properties, and has a bit more range than in Street Fighter 4, so now its good for controlling space. Also, her Crouching Hard Kick - in IV, sometimes it would look like it should hit but it didn't, so in this game it should be a bit easier to hit now. We've also improved the cross-up properties on her Jumping Light Kick, which should improve her aerial offense.

If we look at the total package, then Cammy has gotten more improvements than nerfs?

Okada:
Yes. While she has gotten a lot of improvements, to balance the game out in general damage on the whole is down, so I don't think players will feel that she is too strong. Now, she can better vary her attacks, so now players can enjoy different playstyles with her.

What type of move is her new ultra, the CQC (Cammy Quick Combination)?

Okada:
Her ultra in Street Fighter 4, the Spiral Drive Smasher was really good for rushing down, and could be used in combos. So we wanted to do something different for her for the new ultra, which is how CQC came about. CQC is a counter ultra, so if you don't successfully read your opponent's movements nothing is going to happen. Compared to the other characters though, it does a lot of damage, so it has great comeback potential. So it'll be difficult to hit, but if you do you get a great reward in damage dealt.

So this is a move that's best suited against attacking characters?

Sano:
If the player is really good at reading their opponent, then CQC can be used against any character. But if you use CQC against a grappler, it might lead to trouble. In an instant you can find yourself eating a Spinning Pile Driver (laughs).

Next, tell us about the adjustments for Fei Long

Okada:
The image of Fei Long is one of a character who bulldozes his way forward, especially using his Rekka Ken's. That much hasn't changed. But we have strengthened his straight-forward moves. For example, we have changed the timing of the attacks for his Standing Hard Kick. In Street Fighter 4, an opponent could do a Focus Attack in between the two hits, but now the two hits are consecutive, so its a move that will beat out the opponent's Focus Attack. You can also use it as just a quick combo. We've also adjusted the inputs for his Flying Kick (Chicken Wing), so now it is easier to pull off.

Tell us about his new ultra, Gekirin Ken.

Okada:
This is also a counter ultra, the same as Cammy's CQC. A counter ultra might be more suited to Fei Long than Cammy - the main force of Fei's offense is his Rekka Ken's, and opponents will usually want to get an attack in to break it up. If Fei players can use the counter ultra well, then this will be a great asset to them.

Well then, tell us about the adjustments for Sakura.

Okada:
In Street Fighter 4, the startup on her Fireball was kind of slow, and what would happen is that opponents could jump in on her easily. So in SSFIV, we've reduced some of the startup to make the move a bit easier to use. We've also improved her cross-up abilities. In the past, Sakura could jump in and then link together moves and this was her primary means of offense. But in IV, Sakura didn't have a lot of cross-up ability, so fighting like this was a bit difficult. So we've changed her Jumping Medium Kick to have a bigger cross-up range, which should allow her to jump in and confuse her opponent's guard better. So she should have an easier time jumping in than in Street Fighter 4.

What type of move is her new ultra, Shinkuu Hadouken?

Okada:
While Haru Ranman was a hit-type ultra that could be used in combos, Shinkuu Hadouken is a projectile type. Shinkuu Hadouken doesn't do as much damage, but I feel that its easier to use, such as in situations of controlling space. Also, depending on the button you use to activate it, it can become the anti-air Shinkuu Tengyo Hadouken, or the ground-based Shinkuu Hadouken.

Sano:
Shinkuu Hadouken is a good move to have when she has her opponent in the corner. If you use the anti-air Tengyo Hadouken, with its upwards angle she can catch people who are trying to jump out. She can also hit people with it who are still on the ground. When she has ultra, and the opponent is closer to the corner, she can use it to scare her opponents out of jumping or using air-based attacks. So this ultra will change the way people fight against Sakura.

Tell us about the adjustments for Dan.

Okada:
Dan is one of our more interesting characters, so we wanted to strengthen him on that basis. We've made him a bit more fun to use, and adjusted some things that didn't work in IV. For example, when doing a chain cancel, his recovery time was kind of strange, so we fixed that to make things easier to link up. Also, we've slightly adjusted the start up frames on his weak Air Dan Kick so that it hits easier. He also gets a bit more priority, which makes his attacks a bit easier to hit now than before.

Tell us about his new ultra, the Haou Gadouken.

Okada:
Haou Gadouken is a projectile move. Although its best range is up close, if it hits the opponent it does nice chip damage, so its a nice move against other projectiles. Also, it has combo potential, and you can hit it off juggles.

With these adjustments, has Dan moved up in the tiers?

Okada:
Within the dev team, we feel that this is the Strongest Dan Ever, but his position won't change from SFIV! (laughs) That position is all his.

RoXer 04-21-2010 11:01 PM
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Kalyx triaD 04-21-2010 11:18 PM
So you approve?

Fignuts 04-21-2010 11:23 PM
I don't. Makes Fei Long more annoying.

Kalyx triaD 04-21-2010 11:31 PM
Fei really needed the buffs. He was next to useless. Impressive RoXer got the mileage he got.

Blitz 04-21-2010 11:41 PM
Fei was is not bad to use. I never had too much trouble with the Chicken Wing motion but I'm glad they changed it. And if they've changed that, I hope they changed Cammy's Hooligan Roll motion too.

Cammy's damage reduction displeases me. Guess I'll just have to learn to be trickier with her.

Kalyx triaD 04-22-2010 12:03 AM
The damage reduction is uniform, across the board. Not just Cammy.

Kalyx triaD 04-22-2010 12:52 AM
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?

#BROKEN Hasney 04-22-2010 01:09 AM
You could download it from last week, I just ran out of discs.

Khuntry 04-22-2010 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3036892)
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?
FUUCK MAN GODDAMMIT!!:mad::mad::'(

Kalyx triaD 04-23-2010 03:22 AM
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DAMN iNATOR 04-23-2010 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3036892)
http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/ssf4-sd.jpg

Somebody, somewhere, is pissing me off right now. Anybody got buds throwing down early?
If you take a close look at the receipt, it was sold at a W*M store in Bardstown, KY.:y:

Not that I approve of anyone, anywhere selling things before they're supposed to be stocked or whatever, but I digress.

Fignuts 04-23-2010 04:05 AM
I approve of it, when they sell it to me.

Kalyx triaD 04-23-2010 09:09 AM
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/20...lastscionz.jpg

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 06:03 AM
So yeah, Mecha Zangief.

Drakul 04-25-2010 08:24 AM
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Funky Fly 04-25-2010 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Drakul (Post 3040710)
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Jesus, they should just call this game Street Fighter Win.

Khuntry 04-25-2010 01:07 PM
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Khuntry 04-25-2010 01:08 PM
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Khuntry 04-25-2010 01:08 PM
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#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 01:15 PM
Can't believe I have to wait until Friday.

Cunts.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 01:57 PM
Was just about to post that daigo vs wong match. Insane.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 02:00 PM
Also, here is the whole video with daigo and wong having three matches with the new characters as well.

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RoXer 04-25-2010 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Khuntry (Post 3040894)
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No way that's real. It was probably recorded during like a test phase or something and then shown at the event with them playing plugged into nothing. BS meter is off the charts.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 02:12 PM
And 9/11 was perpetrated by aliens.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 02:14 PM
Note: Justin picked his main while Daigo was just entertaining him. If he had his Ryu that match would've been a flush for Daigo.

RoXer 04-25-2010 02:16 PM
He needs to flash kick more.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 02:18 PM
If you miss the flash kick tho, you are wide open. Against someone like wong who can hit really punishing combos, it's not something you want to risk too much.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 02:40 PM
Hence the flash kick FADCs. Overall that was a weaker performance by Daigo than what I've seen before.

Extra Note: All the jackass who claim SF4 is a "scrub game" with "easy mechanics"; I suppose they just pick up the game and destroy all of the advance players of the game, right? Fucking wrong. People who talk shit like that completely avoid high level games from SF4 (and TvC) - not realizing a game being made more assessable has shit to do with the application of skill in the game. They just hate that lesser players have a better chance, which is all sorts of elitist gay stuff.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 02:45 PM
Are these jackasses GG/BlazeBlue players? Or are they tekken/soul caliber players?

Because if it is the latter, then that is kinda hilarious.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 02:45 PM
Also, the OST is up at shadowhaxor, if anyone cares.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 02:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3041002)
Are these jackasses GG/BlazeBlue players? Or are they tekken/soul caliber players?

Because if it is the latter, then that is kinda hilarious.
They are like clockwork:
  • Sequel to game series is announced.
  • The old game was played for years and certain exploits were discovered after the fact (this is important).
  • The best players (those who valued the exploits) want the new game to cater to their exploitative 'advanced play'.
  • Developers did not like exploits from old game, they want their install base to be less polarized.
  • Developers make known new mechanics to allow more players a fighting chance, character balance, nerfs and buffs.
  • Elite players get butthurt the dev team responded to their breaking the game. No more cheap raping, lord forbid.
  • Players who actually care about the franchise and not a single iteration rejoice.
  • Elite players make war with them, call them "scrubs" and curse the new game.
  • New game drops. The elite players buy it anyway, end up having a blast. Casual players close the gap in skill. Community is expanded by the 'scrub mechanics'.
  • Time passes, new exploits are discovered. Cycle continues.

DAMN iNATOR 04-25-2010 03:37 PM
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.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 03:40 PM
I just hated how

A.) Slow IV was
B.) They wrecked mah Vegas!!!1111eleven

And while I wasn't originally impressed with Super since, fuck, people are going to be boring Ken or broken Sagat/Zangief regardless of how many far more entertaining characters you add, I've gotta admit that the game does play a wee bit faster. That, and they fixed Vega's Ultra to hit on the way up, making it far less TOTALLY FUCKING WORTHLESS than it was last time.

Though I'm still gonna fucking riot if they don't give me R. Mika. Seriously, guys--MAKOTO? ADON? But no muddafuggen' R. Mika? I'd take her over retarded ass El Fuerte in a heartbeat. Watch, they're gonna add Q or Necron or somebody as DLC just to piss me off.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 03:48 PM
They added characters in era sets, and Alpha was serviced twice over. Believe me I wanted Karin in there.

RoXer 04-25-2010 03:50 PM
Hey .44 Magdalene, why haven't you signed up for the tourny?

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3041052)
Believe me I wanted Karin in there.
God yes.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 03:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RoXer (Post 3041055)
Hey .44 Magdalene, why haven't you signed up for the tourny?
While I'm not exactly bad, I'm not nearly as confident in my SFIV powers as I am in say, BlazBlue or TvC. I spent a good majority of the time in first release SFIV discovering that the character I liked (Vega) was pretty much unplayable, then switching to another main--only to find out that they, too, are practically unplayable (Guile). Long story short, I kind of suck compared to... y'know, good players.

And if I had to guess, the tournament's probably for 360 because that's how these things work. D: And I only have a PS3. Unless I'm mistaken.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 04:00 PM
Yeah, I think only you and scared-little-girl Fignuts are getting this on PS3.

RoXer 04-25-2010 04:00 PM
Yeah, 360 only. But don't worry about skill level, there's like 2 great, 2 good, and the rest aren't that goood.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:03 PM
Yeah, but it's all going to be Kalyx jerking off as jobbers are fed into his mouth left and right. I'd rather not have Remember when I beat your Guile hoarded over my head for the rest of my TPWW career.

More importantly, my 360 is floating through limbo somewhere, leaving me inadequately equipped for such a tournament.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 04:05 PM
Yeah, if my new 360 doesn't get here by Friday, I may have strangle someone.

I can live without the stick if it gets delayed, I just wanna play some SSF4.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 04:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3041062)
Yeah, I think only you and scared-little-girl Fignuts are getting this on PS3.
Please, I'm even wth funky fly. I would murder you.

RoXer 04-25-2010 04:06 PM
Its double elimination which makes it a battle for 3rd, 4th, or 5th mostly. Once you get that far than yeah, you'll have to face Kalyx but you should proud of where you ended up nonetheless.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 04:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3041074)
Please, I'm even wth funky fly. I would murder you.
I didn't say you were scared of me :shifty:

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 04:07 PM
tbf, after putting the game in yesterday, I'm thinking the only person who should be scared of me now is Ant. Hopefully pick my game up again when this hits.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041066)
Yeah, but it's all going to be Kalyx jerking off as jobbers are fed into his mouth left and right. I'd rather not have Remember when I beat your Guile hoarded over my head for the rest of my TPWW career.

More importantly, my 360 is floating through limbo somewhere, leaving me inadequately equipped for such a tournament.
We've had our differences in the past but I'd love to know where you're getting this idea of me putting defeats in people's faces. I'm the TPWW SF4 champ, and I dare you to link an instance of me throwing a win in the faces of RoXer, Funky, thecc, etc. In fact it was good spirits all around if you read the thread's match-up responses.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3036656)
So Bad Company, Super V, .44 Mag's not throwing down in this? I would sincerely like to share the replay of my beating their asses to the masses.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 04:12 PM
That's hype talk, come the fuck on. Everybody got it but you're scared of me having a win on you? You seemed to have thicker skin than that.

*punches shoulder*

Cowboy the fuck up.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:14 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3527/...b088038d_o.gif

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:15 PM
But now that I've gotten this pep talk, I have the courage to MANIFEST AN XBOX360 WITH MAH JUJU POWERS~

The "Oh no, my Guile sucks" remark should be taken as the less serious excuse of the two.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-25-2010 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3041086)
Cowboy the fuck up.
This isn't Red Dead Redemption :shifty:

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:16 PM
I think Ken has a cowboy alternate outfit now.

I think God's been trying to tell me to play Ken

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:21 PM
Flowchart Ken

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:22 PM
Flowchart Rodeo Ken

Fignuts 04-25-2010 04:25 PM
Think I'm the only person on tpww who ever uses abel, let alone frequently.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:26 PM
The Optimist does, though he's better with Balrog.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 04:30 PM
Me and .44 will have our own tournament.

It will be quite short.

.44 Magdalene 04-25-2010 04:31 PM
We could make it like, quadruple elimination

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 04:33 PM
You're garbage, .44. Fucking FACE ME.

I will terrorize your family.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 06:06 PM
Quote:
That's very interesting, but let me ask you this. How come did you not mention that you are from the Smash forums? Did you really think that everyone has already forgotten? You may think that you're an adult and are smarter than everyone here but let me tell you this, you are not as smart as you think you are. Just because most SRK members don't waste their time on reading posts (LOL) doesn't make you smarter than a four year old spitting garbage. You are but a cancer to these forums and Mr Wizard has already told you that he won't allow these forums to become a war zone (no recollection of this event) after all that shit you pulled in the FGD Smash threads (another made up event), go take your grudge against SRK somewhere else. (Okay...)
Some dude going on an absurd rant on me (complete with off-the-wall, baseless accusations) after one too many anti-SRK posts. Wow.

Fignuts 04-25-2010 08:17 PM
Why the fuck do you post there?

Awful forum.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 08:28 PM
I... don't know. :(

alvarado52 04-25-2010 09:16 PM
ive decided to take up a new character. Im not big on projectiles, but like a highly defense character with above average strength...who do you suggest? Besides my mom.

Kalyx triaD 04-25-2010 09:22 PM
Abel, maybe Hakan, Makoto...

Khuntry 04-26-2010 12:17 AM
Makoto is the exact opposite of a Defensive character

Fignuts 04-26-2010 12:37 AM
So is abel, tbh.

alvarado52 04-26-2010 02:39 AM
see, i used Bison alot because his attacks were mostly charge attacks, so by default i was usually in block mode. I want to stray away from that, but maintain the ability to gain offense from defense, yknow?

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 02:58 AM
Charge characters have high priority normals, so you could take the fight to them and use special moves sparingly. I covered some of this some time ago hold on...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 2794555)
- I know it's a cliche choice but you really should start with Ryu/Ken. They have basic standards and specials that will help you learn the engine of the game before you learn the gimmick of a specific character. Basically you need to learn Street Fighter 4 before you learn Vega or somebody. However, if you like Vega, stick with him and learn his ass. Playing as characters you like is better than choosing by tiers (gay).

- Charge characters are more complicated than motions. But the idea is the charge characters have better standard attacks than motion characters. Do Vega's standing Roundhouse(Fierce Kick) and you'll see it's actually a free anti-air attack. His Fierce Punch also has great range and his backflips (PPP, KKK) dodge everything.

- BUT as far as charge moves go, and even 360 motions, you must learn buffering. Buffering commands is inputing the motion of a command during other actions. You need to charge back or down with Vega, right? I'm betting you catch yourself crouching or walking backward during a fight, limiting your movement while you ready a move. It doesn't have to be like this. When Vega is jumping (forward or backward) or doing an attack, why not hold back or down while it happens? When the attack is over the charge is done and you just hit forward/up+button and it will seen like you didn't have to limit your movement for a charge. When holding down for his leap attacks, notice his Sweep slides, use it to move forward while charging down. OR just arbitrarily press fierce punch a few times to throw off your opponent while you ready a leap attack. The key for charge characters is to stay busy while charging. All this requires you getting used to buffring commands. With 'Gief, you can do a 360 spin while executing certain attacks (namely the glowing hand).

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:02 AM
So nobody get too fucking excited, online is the exact same boring piece of shit it was before, just faster. You could add 400 fucking new characters, people would do the same goddamn flowchart bullshit they did before with the same piece of shit characters they did before and it's going to try and match me to people with x8000 times my god damn BP on traditional characters even when it's clear I have zero fucking BP and am using a brand new god damn character. I could custom search but I get kicked out of every fucking match or the host leaves, I could quick search and get Abel players with 40505069696969 motherfucking god damn BP and it's not even a fucking learning experience because what am I supposed to fucking learn from getting perfected? Not to fucking play online? God fucking dammit.

Broke a fucking controller.

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:04 AM
Teach me to try using a new fucking character, why god damn don't ya

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041863)
So nobody get too fucking excited, online is the exact same boring piece of shit it was before, just faster. You could add 400 fucking new characters, people would do the same goddamn flowchart bullshit they did before with the same piece of shit characters they did before and it's going to try and match me to people with x8000 times my god damn BP on traditional characters even when it's clear I have zero fucking BP and am using a brand new god damn character. I could custom search but I get kicked out of every fucking match or the host leaves, I could quick search and get Abel players with 40505069696969 motherfucking god damn BP and it's not even a fucking learning experience because what am I supposed to fucking learn from getting perfected? Not to fucking play online? God fucking dammit.

Broke a fucking controller.
Epic rant.

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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041864)
Teach me to try using a new fucking character, why god damn don't ya
When we're all online AND BY THE WAY FUCK YOU FOR PLAYING THE GAME ALREADY - We'll have some rooms open and have some casuals. We'll talk shop throughout the matches and beef each other up before the tourny.

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:19 AM
Except that most of you are on 360 herp derp

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:20 AM
I could have just played fucking Cammy but no, had to god damn try to learn Makoto. "I beat arcade mode with her," I said. "I did most of her trials," I said. "I could play her online I guess, it'll match me with people of roughly my skill." LOL SURE TAUGHT ME A LESSON THERE, STREET FIGHTER

#BROKEN Hasney 04-26-2010 04:21 AM
Online SF4 was fun as hell, wouldn't care if SSF4 was more of the same.

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 04:21 AM
That's what you get for getting a POS3. :roll:

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:23 AM
I had a 360 and it red ringed. It got fixed and then lost in the mail and I don't think Microsoft believes us.

The PS3, on the other hand, still plays perfectly fine.

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041872)
I could have just played fucking Cammy but no, had to god damn try to learn Makoto. "I beat arcade mode with her," I said. "I did most of her trials," I said. "I could play her online I guess, it'll match me with people of roughly my skill." LOL SURE TAUGHT ME A LESSON THERE, STREET FIGHTER
Despite my gaff earlier Makoto is an offensive character. She doesn't seem like your speed by the sound of you. You need a safer dude... like Sagat.

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041875)
I had a 360 and it red ringed. It got fixed and then lost in the mail and I don't think Microsoft believes us.

The PS3, on the other hand, still plays perfectly fine.
Doesn't matter, I wasn't seriously ripping on PS3. Your purchase is your purchase.

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:26 AM
Well yeah, she's a rushdown character and I gathered that. When every fucker I fought started spamming projectiles or having their attacks magically eat mine alive, though, I cannot fucking rush down. And if I can't play the character at all without learning every single iota of priority in the entire goddamn game as it relates to Makoto (because seriously, no fucking move I could do would go through on some of these characters--Sakura and Abel both could just plow right over me) I'm going to end up very god damn frustrated, which I did.

Also, they hit Sagat's HP pretty hard with the nerf bat. I could go back to playing fucking Guile I guess since I can actually control that way, I'm just pretty god damn tired of not getting to use the character I want because WHOOPS SORRY VEGA SUCKS. LOOKS LIKE MAKOTO REQUIRES YOU TO FUCKING MASTER PRIORITY AND TIMING TO THE SECOND BEFORE YOU CAN USE HER, SORRY

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:29 AM
Makoto can't even finish with a Super Combo because her Super's a buff instead of an attack. What in the fuck. There are certain trophies and bonuses and shit that Makoto = Nope, sorry.

At least they fixed Vega's fucking Ultra to be able to actually god damn hit now. Jesus.

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041880)
Well yeah, she's a rushdown character and I gathered that. When every fucker I fought started spamming projectiles or having their attacks magically eat mine alive, though, I cannot fucking rush down. And if I can't play the character at all without learning every single iota of priority in the entire goddamn game as it relates to Makoto (because seriously, no fucking move I could do would go through on some of these characters--Sakura and Abel both could just plow right over me) I'm going to end up very god damn frustrated, which I did.

Also, they hit Sagat's HP pretty hard with the nerf bat. I could go back to playing fucking Guile I guess since I can actually control that way, I'm just pretty god damn tired of not getting to use the character I want because WHOOPS SORRY VEGA SUCKS. LOOKS LIKE MAKOTO REQUIRES YOU TO FUCKING MASTER PRIORITY AND TIMING TO THE SECOND BEFORE YOU CAN USE HER, SORRY
Makoto's EX flash-punch thing should be able to go through fireballs, right? And then there's jumping over them. Fireball spammers are easy to rape, especially with a mean bitch like Makoto. I think you're problem is with a general thing and not Makoto not working for you. Make avoiding fireballs a meta-game. don't even worry about winning, just find ways around fireballs and build your game from there. You'll be surprised how easily people fold after you shut down there tactics.

Vega is awesome. He's in my stable, though ranked fourth in effectiveness under my Cammy, Sakura, and Ken. But Vega is great, and I love his new Ultra. He does not suck.

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Originally Posted by .44 Magdalene (Post 3041883)
Makoto can't even finish with a Super Combo because her Super's a buff instead of an attack. What in the fuck. There are certain trophies and bonuses and shit that Makoto = Nope, sorry.

At least they fixed Vega's fucking Ultra to be able to actually god damn hit now. Jesus.
Makoto's ascension move adds to her rush down, increasing the rape. But I understand if it's not as appealing as an attack.

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 04:57 AM
I can get around the fireballs pretty easily, they're just fucking annoying because everybody starts every god damn fight that way. The magical OMNOMNOM right through every single attack in my repetoire with what looks like pretty basic shit (EX dash punch? MEET MY PERFECTLY NORMAL MEDIUM KICK. Already technically hitting me? TIME FOR GRABS ASSHOLE).

Vega's better but he was pretty shit tier in SFIV, though I'm used to playing Alpha 3 Vega.

Kalyx triaD 04-26-2010 05:05 AM
What specifically is your biggest issue right now?

RoXer 04-26-2010 05:19 AM
Being gay

RoXer 04-26-2010 05:20 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

.44 Magdalene 04-26-2010 05:22 AM
LOL Roxer's got my number

RoXer 04-26-2010 05:24 AM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Khuntry 04-26-2010 10:38 AM
I'd say makoto is not begginer friendly character. You really need to actually learn her. She was pure rush down in 3rd strike and she still maintains that playstyle in ssf4 (she's not as nasty as she was in 3rd strike.) I dont think her dash punch goes through projectiles prolly on startup but not in her active frames. don know about ex tho.

Khuntry 04-26-2010 01:54 PM
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Blitz 04-27-2010 12:55 AM
Definitely gonna try and learn Guy, besides the fact that I loved him in Alpha, really liked what Daigo was doing with him in that match a couple pages back. May give Makoto a shot too, but I think she's out of my league.

Been playing a lot of 4 online the last few days trying to shake some rust, and I was reminded how much I detest the people playing player matches with a dialed in character. Why not play ranked with your mastered Rufus, instead of player so you can "lol pwn n00bs!"

Funky Fly 04-27-2010 01:06 AM
Dunno, been playing this a little bit in the last couple of months and have made some definite improvements and even got better with a few of my non-regulars, but I will definitely need that couple of months of prep time to get back to fighting shape.

.44 Magdalene 04-27-2010 01:18 AM
Update, having quite a bit more luck with Dudley. Started playing Guile again, but damn it Daigo now everybody's playing Guile online and Guile vs Guile is boring as hell.

Also bought a new controller.

Funky Fly 04-27-2010 01:33 AM
Fuck. Hope this doesn't get sold out before I'm done work tomorrow.

Blitz 04-27-2010 01:41 AM
Might need to pick up a new controller as well. Are there any decent third party 360 controls out there? Specifically one with a nice d-pad?

Kalyx triaD 04-27-2010 02:07 AM
No.


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