I never liked him on TUF..

Still don't..

Nog speaks good english

Why is everyone saying he'll have trouble communicating??

cause BJ Penn made him cry.

I think Joe 'Daddy' is a tough bastard, personally.

So do I.

UFC 83 Serra v GSP

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GSP's entrance pumps me up.

That's pretty sweet.

Kenflo vs. Huerta

TITS

Yea can't wait for that one. Both guys go all out. Kenny will probably win :(

Nick Diaz vs Takanori Gomi- The infamous Gogo Plata


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Nick Diaz is easily one of my top 5 favorite fighters of all time.

That's the win they took from Diaz for failing a drug test for weed..

that was such a joke

Doesn't matter. The video doesn't lie. The world knows Diaz fucking schooled Gomi.

If Diaz is high going in against Gomi, then he's just plain dumb. As a person who smokes weed daily, you dont go into a ring high with Tak Gomi, he'll kill you. Diaz was plenty sober in that fight and he schooled one of the best fighters ever

It shouldn't matter either way, pot isn't a performance enhancing drug...

Kinda the opposite...

If he did then it's even more impressive.

Me and Reav had this discussion before and he's gonna say something about weed helping in fights..

I've been in a lot of fight before and def fight better when sober as opposed to high..

When you are high, you don't have 100% control of your mind. In no way can it be a benefit. Zero chance.

yea i didnt say it enhanced performance i just said exactly what it did to you. It doesnt necessarily comletely hinder ur performance unless u go overbored, but it sure as hell doesnt help you out or be the factor to put you over the top.

not true. everything affects people differently. plus theres tolerance levels. Weed doesnt affect your mind the same way alcohol, coke and acid do.

The only real benefit from it could be that since it relaxes your body so much, it will lower the muscle tone a bit and make you more flexible but thats a HUGE stretch.

Actually it's very true.

Coleman vs. Lesnar is off. GSP vs. Fitch is the new main event for UFC 87.

for u maybe

Sucks for Lesnar a little bit. Coleman was a natural fit for Brock to be able to run through.

Wonder who they'll line up.

So, what the fuck about all these stories that Lesnar's next opponent is Lashley.

I don't touch drugs.

And please explain to me how weed stimulates the human brain.

Now I really hope that UFC doesnt resign andrei because if they do, hes gonna be lesnars next opponent.

THC connects to specific sites called cannabinoid receptors on nerve cells and thereby influences the activity of those cells. Some brain areas have many cannabinoid receptors; others have few or none. Many cannabinoid receptors are found in the parts of the brain that influence pleasure, memory, thought, concentration, sensory and time perception, and coordinated movement.

Not a chance, they're not going to put Lesnar in there with a guy that will definitly beat him like Arlovski. Their going to find some guy outside of the UFC to fight Brock.

haha andrei wouldnt definitly beat him

Rico Rodriguez

:roll:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I hope Tito smashes Machida all over the cage tonight.

Me 2. I like machida but I hope tito screws everything up for dana. Especially cuz machida i guess is supposed to get a title shot if he wins.

I hate Machida. He was in the most boring fight I have ever seen and had it not been for Gonzaga knocking out Cro Cop, it would have ruined my weekend.

The replacement for Mark Coleman is Heath Herring. I think Brock is in trouble now.

Does Dana want Brock to lose?

Well I like Dana and all but he is fucking losing his mind. Doesn't protect his stars and he has come off like the biggest douchebag in the world to everyone who doesn't hate Tito Ortiz with the way he has treated him.

Booking Heath Herring to face Lesner is so stupid. Herring is gunna kill Lesnar. He's way to good and experienced, i mean, he handled Kongo pretty easily and he was in fantastic shape. I'll take Herring

Now I know Brock got caught by Mir, but if you think that Herring is gonna beat Brock, your nuts! Brock is gonna murder heath. Heath lost to Jake Obrien.... Jake obrien was a shit wrestler. Brock is an NCAA champ and is an all around beast. Brock is gonna walk through him.

Are you serious? Did you see Herring against Congo? Congo is a beast, and got pretty comprehensively beat. Id back Herring in this one.

St Pierre/Fitch is probably the fight I was most hoping for this year. Can't wait for that.




Anyone know where I can get a decent stream for tonight? Or am I going to have to wait for Bravo tomorrow? :(

are YOU serious? how is kongo a beast? Kongo is just a big guy with little physicality and knock out power only in his knees. His strikes do anything. Watch his fights! especially crocop. its like hes trying to just score points. And Heath won a split decision, not a dominating unanimous decision. He won a war no doubt, but it was against someone that doesnt rovide the threat that everyone thinks he does.

Brock will destroy him.

WANDERLEI IS BACK BABY

What are you on? Herring has proven power in both hands and wasn't submitted by the best BJJ guy in the division who is now the fucking champion. Any negativity that came out of the Kongo fight was all due to that French twat. Herring did everything he could to FORCE a fight.

Next thing you'll be telling me is Tito Ortiz was dominated by Lyoto Machida because he lost a decision and tried forcing a fight.

While we are talking about Ortiz, I have to say that my respect for Dana White is falling at a rapid pace. The guy has come off as the biggest wanker in the fucking business this weekend and all he has suceeded in doing is turn Tito Ortiz into the biggest babyface in the business and an even bigger star for his competition to bid over. The shit at the press conference was embarrassing. Vince McMahon has never even been this embarrassing in public.

What a fucking idiot.

I didnt say Herring isnt good. He is, but hes going to get killed by brock. Yes he didnt get submitted by Nog, but hes only been submitted once in his entire career which was by nog.

Of course Herring has power in his hands hes like 240-250. Pretty much every heavyweight has some big power in their hands. Thats why Kongo pisses me off so much, he has almost zero knock out power.

I wasnt saying the fight he had with kongo was bad, it was a good fight, but Kongo is only a kickboxer, he should stick to world combat league and score points with his strikes, cuz hes not going to knock anyone out in mma with his hands.

And for the record I think Machida won the fight without arguuement. it was a little kaleb starnesish for most of it, but he is a very smart fighter and fought almost the perfect fight for himself last night, but he is incredibly boring to watch when hes facing someone who would beat him if he went toe to toe with him.

For the record, it was NOT Kaleb Starnes-ish. Machida actually threw punches and did damage. If you want him to stand there and let himself get knocked out, you're a god damned idiot. There's a difference between fighting smart and running like a bitch. One led to a decisive victory for Lyoto Machida, the other led to the unemployment line.

side notes: Penn-Sherk was kind of anticlimatic to me. When Sherk couldn't take him down on the first attempt, it was over. it took 3 rounds to make it official.

I thought Jardine would have lasted longer and would have actually stood something of a chance against Wanderlei. But... damn!

Yea Machida is very good..but damn boring. I was rooting for Ortiz like crazy. I doubt UFC wants a boring fighter like Machida as a champ but he will obviously get a shot. Glad Wandy won..and nobody in the lightweight right now can beat Penn.

did u read the whole post or just see one line of it and your head exploded? was machida backing up almost the entire fight? yes. was that an element of what starns did? yes. Was machida still landing shots and doing enough to get a clear victory? yes.

I didnt say I want him to stand in front of someone to get knocked out. I said that he fights in an incredibly boring way when he goes against someone who is physically a more threatening human being. thats the way he does things. It works for him and hes smart for using it to win, BUT it is boring as hell.

im pretty sure everyone else got that from my post but here it is spelled out for ya.

they still might give him a title shot. I wouldnt worry about him winning it though. I just dont see him beating someone who is as effective with ttheir strikes and aggressive as a rampage, liddel, or silva. Tito just didnt have the stand up to do anything to him and has never changed his gameplan for fights.... ever.

Any recommendations to find some good MMA torrents? (i.e some old Rampage Jackson pride stuff/Wanderlei Silva, etc)?

Man, is Silva a beast or what?

Yeah he looked great. Him grabbing Jardine's throat so his head wouldn't move when punching was very funny for me too. However, it's still only 1 fight. Remember this kids.

I had Machida winning too but I have never bought a show he was on since I saw him in Manchester, and I never will. Machida = Negative buys. FACT!

Jardine's career is a roller coaster ride.... knocks out forrest, gets knocked out by houston, beats chuck, gets knocked out by silva.... watch jardine now come back and beat someone huge like rampage or shogun. i dont know how he would get in a match with either of them, but it would be fitting and hilarious.

They'd give him a fight with Shogun for sure.

*Ahem* :D

Also yeah Wanderlei grabbing Jardine's throat was a fuckin hell moment. Also I didn't realise that was his first UFC win since 1999, fuckin oath.

Probably should have worded that any site recommendations where I can find some good MMA torrents, but you get the point

I'm personally not a Tito fan...but really Dana has handled him all wrong in the last year. How did you make him into a babyface when a while ago no one could stand him?

And the facts all back Tito too. Dana White is trying to make himself the star of the show, the face of the company, THE superstar. The bullshit about Tito rather being a superstar is two faced. He has his faults as a businessman but huge strengths too. I actually admire how he can tell big TV companies to fuck off and wait for the deal that suits him, I admire the man has guts. However, he is an idiot for knocking Tito's drawing power but talking about him like a chump. If your biggest star is a chump, what does that make everyone beneath him?

At the press conference, a reporter asked why is Silva making 150k and Jardine made 10k. Dana said Jardine made more but his official purse is that sum which is reported to the atheltic comission. Bottom line, he made 10k. As a guy who was semi main event according to Dana, this is bollocks. And Tito Ortiz did things the right way unlike Randy Couture, waited out his deal and fought under the contract he signed. And to top it off, it ain't like he is asking for Mayweather money or anything. A percentage of the gate and PPV buys (more than he is getting) isn't too much to asking for.

plus dana is spreading out the fights for guys that make a lot of money now.... big names are waiting at least 6 months now between fights (with GSP being the only real exception) so that he doesnt have to shell out the money that is guaranteed to them in their contracts.

They definitely need to rework the fighter contracts. You sign a guy to a base contract, then he semi main events a card and gets paid the same. If your name is being advertised for the show as a feature fight, you should get a little more. well in jardine's case a lot more

I think he has to spread the stars out because they have too many shows. To be fair, most of them, he tried to get fighting in London once Chuck was out. Again, the one of the biggest problems is that he thinks the UFC brand draws more than the fighters. It draws but nothing close to the fighters name value. If BJ Penn goes back to 170lbs, under no circumstances should they ever let him fight at 155lbs again. Only hurts that division. Plus he needs to do the big fights while they are big. Let's take Matt Serra for example. He has two huge fights possible - GSP and Matt Hughes. Common sense says have the GSP fight first. If he loses, it doesn't hurt the Hughes fight at all since he just lost to the best guy in the division. If he wins, even better. However, if they do the Hughes fight first and he loses, they fuck any chance of a third fight with GSP doing any numbers.

Bruce Buffer needs to get knocked the fuck out.

Bruce Buffer is a great man.

I agree but look at the layoff he has been giving the champs lately other than GSP. BJ went all the way from last summer to his match with stevenson. chuck was slated to go from december till june which is a big jump. He wont give nog a fight it seems for like 7 moth spans of time. The thing is, that if they have so many shows, it should be easy to set up the big names at least 3 times a year.

BJ wasn't the champion last summer.

And having the bigger names on more shows devalues them. 3 fights a year is great in an ideal world where you have set challengers and no injuries. I'd bet Rampage fights again this year after the Griffin fight. Maybe even twice. Same for Anderson Silva. BJ might even get a new years fight on top.

Anyone going to watch EliteXC on Saturday? Also Gina Carano is so hot. She is a definite Knock-Out. Literally.

Nope. Not available in Britain unfortunately. Neither is the WEC show. This sucks.

Man i'd love it if Gina pulled guard on me

"I'd show her my 30cm pole"

That Mauro Ranallo is a great man.

Yea Carano is hot as hell. She could mount me any day

lol at all the MMA puns. I only saw one pic of the other girl and she doesn't look bad herself. I could be wrong though. Btw, there might be an internet stream for it Rob.

I'd put Gina in a rear naked choke.

:naughty:

Gina can put me a triangle.

I win.

I'd rather put her in one :shifty:

I'd beat her via can opener

id prolly beat her via KO Donkey Punch in the third round

I'd ground and pound her.

Speaking of Fatty McFatterson, she failed to make weight. Came on the scales at 144lbs. She has to give 12.5% of her purse to Kaitlin Young.

Okay she ain't fat.

News on Bobby Lashley

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4460/wwes-...ght-league.mma

We love you Bobby.

hes going to be scary in the future as well

Well see.

The guy is a 2x naia national wrestling champ... not nearly as good as brock, but that skill alone will win him 75% of his matches plus hes more athletic.

Yeah but we don't know if he can take a punch or defend submissions.

What weight did he wrestle at?

well that would encompase the 25% that his wrestling wouldnt carry him lol. He wrestled 285.

285lbs? No fucking way.

You know I'm talking the legit wrestling. Not the fake shit right?

Predictions for the weekend

Lawler KO's Smith
Thompson KO's Kimbo
Faber decisions Pulver

Everything I had on Lashley said he wrestled at like 177 or 180 or so in college. He bulked up to like 250 or so for wrestling.

ok see 285 doesnt mean you weigh 285 it means you fall into a weight class from 197-285.


As it turns out he did actually wrestle at 177 as heartbreak put it. I was not certain if he was at 285 for sure, I more assumed from his size now. I just looked it up and it turns out he was a 3x national champ which is even more impressive.

Yeah, I knew he wasn't that heavy. When I was wrestling and doing MMA there were guys I followed closely. Oddly enough Brock and Bobby were two of the guys (along with a bunch of guys who never transitioned to MMA so I don't know how many people will know of them).

I believe he did wrestle at around 235 in the army though.

you wrestled?

im also sure its safe to say then that good ole bobby went to the juice shop and juiced it up real good

Wrestled when I was younger AAU and highschool had been transitioning through to BJJ and MT kickboxing. Wrestled since I was 5 and done more hybrid/mma style for the last 12 years.

AND it's time for Elite XC. I will say however, their production values already seem not quite up to the standards that the UFC has put in place.