Like I suspected..Dylan Bundy is starting Sunday.

The Orioles have no real trade chips available for any noteworthy pitchers who might be available but they might be able to scrounge around the scrap heap guys for someone..

They have a Hunter Harvey finally healthy. Wouldn't put it past them to shop him.

Every team needs to get better in the AL East, Jays don't really need a starter, but they do need some insurance in the bullpen and a fringe starter turned into a longman to replace Floyd to eat innings should a starter happen to tank a game.... Jays could use Goins/Barney/Travis as bait for something big as they have lots of depth at 2B.

I know someone who can help......

That boat left the station

:wave:

Yankees lose! Yankees lose! Daaaaaaaah Yankees Lose!

Verifying the first half SUPERWIN total:

4/3: Francisco Liriano
4/6: Kenta Maeda
4/14: Jason Hammel
4/18: John Lackey
4/19: Jason Hammel (2)
4/22: Jeff Samardzija
5/1: Clayton Kershaw
5/3: Jake Arrieta
5/11: Noah Syndergaard
5/15: Jose Fernandez
5/15: Dan Straily
5/18: Travis Wood
5/21: Matt Cain
5/22: Madison Bumgarner
5/22: Jerad Eickoff
5/24: Jason Hammel (3)
5/24: Jake Odorizzi
6/2: Madison Bumgarner (2)
6/9: Jorge De La Rosa
6/11: Tanner Roark
6/18: Chris Hatcher
6/25: Drew Pomeranz
6/26: Anthony DeSclafani
7/3: Brandon McCarthy
7/7: Drew Pomeranz (2)

25. Very impressive. Shame Pomeranz left the NL.

Blue Jays on a bit of a slide..

They peaked too early last year. Should've reserved some of that momentum for 2016.

You jinxed him

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He was shut down after 20 some pitches in a minor league start due to flexor mass soreness
Tommy John time

Question - Zach Britton is 29/29 saves with a less than .70 ERA. In 1992 Dennis Eckersley had 51 saves with a 1.91 ERA and he won the AL Cy Young and MVP. In 2003 Eric Gagne was 55/55 saves with a 1.20 ERA when he won the NL Cy Young.
No chance Britton wins the MVP but I think he has a shot for a the Cy Young

Absolutely not.

The AL Cy Young contender as this point are slim enough I think he has a shot

That's because you're a homer. Danny Salazar is having a Cy Young caliber year. Carlos Carasco is up there. Michel Fulmer. Rich Hill. Etc etc. It's not even close guy. Just stop.

Funny You say that because You don't mention Chris Tillman either..who's having a better year than them all

It's funny because he's not having a better year than any of them. He is perhaps in the conversation, but only because he's on a contending team and because he has an "oooohhh shiny" win-loss record.. But he's not significantly better, if at all, than any of them.

What's funnier is you think he is having a better year based on him being on your favorite team, but think a guy who was a terrible starter now turned one inning reliever is Cy Young worthy.

In a minimum of 70 innings pitched, Tillman is not top 20 in pitcher WAR, according to Fangraphs. He's not in the top 20 in k9. Barely top 20 in ERA by 2/10 of a run
Well out of the top 20 in fielding independent pitching (i.e., he's been lucky/blessed with a good defense). Not top 20 in k%. He's actually 50th in bb%.

So exactly what is Tillman good at that would make you think he's actually Cy Young worthy? Besides wins and losses and the fact that he's happens to play in Baltimore?

http://espn.go.com/mlb/features/cyyoung

1. Britton
2. Tillman.

ESPN aren't homers.

Did you bother to read how that thing as developed? It's based on how they think the balloting is going to go based on previous voter tendencies. It's not a measure of who should be Cy Young award worthy, but rather, who might be based on how voters typically vote.

It's not the same as saying player a deserves it more than player b based on actual performance.

That's the best indication of how things will go down though. It shows the stats the writers tend to look at as compared to all that Sabermatric junk (except for the victory bonus)

Hadn't seen that
Intrtesting

Which isn't the argument. The argument is whether or not he's good enough and why/why not. Not why he might win based on writer bias and trend

Sabermetrics aren't everything. They're definitely useful in painting the entire picture and give you a little bit extra, but certainly not the be all end all. I do like WAR though, that's a pretty sweet stat that gives us a lot more than we used to get.

Hope Happ is going to be okay after getting smashed in the left forearm with a liner from Smolinski. He was dealing before that, even got to 2 outs in the 6th, Gibby took him out and Chavez came in and gave up both inherited runners. Fucking drives me nuts sometimes. Chavez is a good pitcher too with nice stuff, probably other than Osuna and Grilli, the most consistant arm this year. You literally have one out you need to get and you give up a game tying double to a pinch hitter hitting .250.

Hopefully they pick up a decent bullpen arm.

Going to watch the Jayce play Seattle on Saturday, probably be a good game.

JA Happ number 6 on that list, Sanchez #8 and i don't see Cory Kluber anywhere lmfao

The only sabermetric stats I used was WAR and FIP. Everything else are common stats. Like strikeout rates, walk rates, and earned run average. Even on a basic level there isn't a strong argument for Tillman, except his team record and pitcher WINZZ.

FIP almost seems a tool to discredit guys. WAR is cool as shit BUT I think looking at someone's line offensive and defensively you can kind of just make up your own mind. If someone has 140 RBI I can safely assume he either socks a lot of dingers, mostly with runners on base, or he's really good at hitting with runners in scoring position. I don't think the RBI is that misleading. Someone has to be able to knock runs in, and hitting with runners in scoring position is invaluable.

Twins fire GM Terry Ryan............again. It was his second go-around at the position. Was the GM from '94-2007.

And for bit of a funny/sad story. Indians tried to do everything to turn Yan Gomes' season around. Even taking a page out of the "Major League" book and sacrificing a fried chicken. Well, all that didn't work and he's on the DL for a separated shoulder.

Former Cardinals scout that got busted for hacking the Astros players database a couple years ago ended up getting sent to jail for almost 4 years.

Cubs starter Jason Hammel had to leave his last start before the All-Star break due to cramps in his right hand. That’s not good. The Cubs have a team doctor, though, and the team doctor told Hammel how to deal with that problem. Stretching? No. Potassium supplements? No.
Cubs team doctor

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The Mets cannot fucking buy a hit with runners on base. It's incredibly difficult to watch. Asdrubal Cabrera is 0 for his last 28 with RISP. He and Granderson are both hitting over 100 points below their career averages with runners on. It's fucking baffling.

Kevin Long has turned this Met lineup into a team of hackers. They either swing for the fences, try to work out a walk, or strike out/weakly pop out/GIDP trying to do one of those things. Any non-HR hit is by accident.

I don't even know if I can blame Long. It seems he's being directed to coach the team this way. It's Moneyball 101 - batting average is viewed as irrelevant, they never bunt runners over, they never ever steal (David Wright has 3 stolen bases and is still the team leader), and defense is viewed as largely unimportant.

And of course ironically the one guy who was so bad defensively that even Sandy Alderson didn't want him ended up turning into the best hitter in baseball. Fucking hell what a nightmare.

Murphy's got a bit of a swagger to him too. LOL and he made a great play during the all star game on defence.

Don't worry, when Eddie E goes to Boston, he'll be making the Jays pay for about 6 or 7 years.

lol yeah. Murph was showboating after routine double plays in the last series in Queens...and it was so bad I reached the point where I wanted someone to plunk him just because pitching to him regularly wasn't working.

But then they did that Stand Up to Cancer thing and he wrote "Sandy Alderson" on his placard and it made me remember I can't totally hate him :(

I know this question is late to the party, but how did Tim Lincecum lose his mojo?

Lost his velocity. Once that happened his fastball was just a flat offering.

Doesn't he also have some sort of serious medical condition which meant his career was going to get affected a lot sooner than normal?

Think his pitching style was meant to help overcome that issue but at the same time also means he'd have less quality time in his career as a trade-off.

Yeah his hips don't lie. They have a degenerative condition.

lol well it's friggin commendable that he's still PITCHING in the big leagues with a degenerative hip condition.

Yep and its not like he hasn't had a Hall of Fame career already. 3 Time World Champ, 2 time Cy Young, 2 no hitters.

Red Sox win! 1/2 game down in the ALE right now. Porcello Cy Young stock rising.