Yeah, the more I think about it the less it seems possible or even needed. Ren already has a bad ass lightsaber and Vaders wouldnt really wouldnt have anything to do unless it gave Kylo Ren a vison like Rey. I could see that as Ren touches it and gets a vison of what he needs to do to become a great Sith lord like his Grandfather. Really feel like Episode 8 will be more centered around Kylo Ren becoming Sith unless the Sith is completly dead.

I've never read any of the EU, my brother has some of the books but I've never read them. Id be down for a thread of that nature though.

People SHOULD have a problem with there being a black stormtrooper but not for the reasons stated. They are probably ALL black guys. The racist Empire makes all of the disposable troopers black. It's Tuskanee all over again.

Not just books, either. Games, comics, and some cartoons really added to pre-Disney Star Wars in what may be the greatest fictional multimedia world building ever.

There are stuff I wish would have been adapted for screen, or otherwise got more spotlight. Putting up a thread later. EU retrospective.

It's not canon anymore. It was marketed and sold as canon though.

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Currently reading through the EU for the first time... So maybe I shouldn't be asking for "spoilers"...

On the second book of "the Callista Trilogy". First one was really bad. Prob the worst of the SW books I have read this far....

I mean I already know of certain deaths and heel turns... But still would like to keep as many "surprises" as I can....

This is fucking ridiculous.

There are lots of stories, from movies to books to games where you know the end game. The ending isn't what it's about. The prequels specifically are tne tragic downfall of ankakin skywalker. The fact that you know he becomes vader just adds to tne tragedy, as you see it slowly happening.

I missed this reply, sorry.

What would you have Lucas do?

Not have the prequels end setting up the Deathstar trilogy? What are you asking for? This is why I wondered if you guys actually had an issue with prequel stories as a concept.

Ridley Scott went out of his way to keep Prometheus from ending on a note that leads to Alien. It was one of the biggest criticisms on the movie. Ridley and Fox's response? The Prometheus sequel is now called Alien, with a greater effort to bridge the two eras.

Prequels are expected to set up what they proceed, with the point being that we explore the hows and whys. If your issue with a prequel is its unavoidable goal, I dunno what to tell you.

They're talking about doing a TV series based on Krypton. But why? We know it blows up.

Let me clarify what I mean by adapting story and character elements of the EU for film (I was gonna save this for the thread but I suppose I can say so here).

I do not mean adapting the stories line for line in a Watchmen kind of way. No direct adaptations. I'm one of the few guys on here documented to not take much issue with loose adaptations. I really don't mind so long as the spirit and theme of the source material is respected. That is what I mean by that. I should have been more clear before.

I think showing the aliens who designed and built the death star was a little bit overkill in the prequels. We don't need to know if Anakin kills Dooku in Episode 2 there is no Death Star. The ending scenes of Revenge of the Sith are the best of the prequels. Yoda, Ben, Vader with Tarkin and Luke with Owen and Beru. The best music from A New Hope when Luke looks into the Two moons to end was perfect.

It's like when Neo goes into the room with the George Carlin lookalike and finds out everything about the Matrix. There's a fine line of what information you give and what you shouldn't that you only find once you cross it.

It's totally fine talking about the follow-thru, and I agree with you on those points, but I'm just talking about prequels as a concept.

There's times where it's heavy handed but overall we have to end up in a way that the prequels stand on their own while heading into the next story.

And we've ready say through 3 movies of building to a known ending. I personally rather know nothing that is happening. I don't see any value in adapting the fan creates EU.

The prequels were just a mess. I think we can all agree on that

You're a weird person. I don't say so to attack, I'm genuinely perplexed by you.

Why is it weird I think the prequels are shit and I prefer a new story as opposed to the EU? I think you are weird for wanting the uninteresting stories you've already read

Some of the EU is shit. The Papatine Clone stuff just feels like bad sci fi. A retelling of certain aspects of other material wouldn't be bad.

This 'Kalyx wants bad stories' dismissal thing is already old, bro. Seriously.

I figured Kylo Ren was going to be a Conor Jax like character from Crimson Empire.

Maybe these Star Wars Stories will have elements of some of the EU stuff. I'm interested to see were these stories go.

30 years of nothing happening is the worst part of the movies.

Are you talking 30 years between Rots and ANH or Jedi and TFA?

OK bro. You are the one hung up on EU and it was you who called me weird

Jedi and TFA.

Why do you say nothing has happened?

Even pretending I am 'hung up' on EU, you're still the one who can't seem to make a point with trying to dismiss me in some way. It's not a good look. Stay on point.

Cause Leia isn't a Jedi. Seems dumb Luke didn't train her. She's just senses stuff. Why isn't she a badass?

I'm not dismissing you. I am stating I personally don't want the EU recognized.

Because she settled down and had a family and then her family detroyed itself. ren is 29 so he wasn't conceived long after Endor (from what I've read)

Yeah I'd say it pretty hard to become a Jedi when your raising the child that will kill your husband. Does seem like a lot of nothing happened between ROTJ and TFA though but we could get more filler as the trilogy plays out.

Dumb to have a family when Vader is in your bloodline tbh.

I mean if Luke was too old in Empire to start his training, I dont imagine years later was good for Leia to start.

The Empire didn't just end with the second Death Star exploloding. There had to be a resolution to that. Then you have to build a new republic. Luke attempts to restart the Jedi. The first order grows in power. The Resistance Forms.

We have yet to really hear about anything else.

Yeah but they said Anakin was too old. It's just as the Emperor said. Rules/lies so they can maintain their power. Too old not to be indoctrinated. Luke was deflecting blasters blindfolded by his first lesson (which is one of the first thing 'younglings' learn as seen in Episode 2.)

Ben was probably a mistake.

Stupid Ewok condoms.

My biggest gripe with the Star Wars universe is that Han Solo didn't even attempt to dye his hair or change his fashion style when Jabba was after him.

I dunno, I think he was on to something disguising himself as a carbonite wall picture

Why name him Ben anyways? He was Luke's friend/master. They barely knew him.

You guys.

Because it is a better name than Bail....

Does the Dagobah System become common knowledge in the 30 years after Jedi? Do tourists get to have a bed and breakfast at Yoda's old house.

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