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MTH15 04-17-2007 08:01 PM

I dont know. Dont think so. I wish a WR would make the cover. :(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Nervous Ferret 04-17-2007 09:21 PM

Geez, how many times do I have to tell you guys. They pick the Madden cover guy out of a hat, with all the best players from the previous year in the hat.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-17-2007 10:46 PM

lol Vince Young

MTH15 04-17-2007 11:35 PM

Didn't know that...so I wonder if anybody from the Falcons it on the hat :(. Is it just me or is Vince Youngs forehead getting bigger...

SammyG 04-18-2007 12:19 AM

... I think Nerf was being sarcastic mth.

MTH15 04-18-2007 12:31 AM

Oh...:D anyways when Rich Eisen was talking to VY hes all like. You know about the curse right?
VY: What curse?
ME::rofl:
Rich: The madden cover curse, make sure you dont step on any cracks and look both ways when crossing the street
VY: Ok :(

CSL 04-18-2007 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan
lol if the draft is on NFL network

<font color=white>I seeeee. Just assumed it would be. Now to find an ESPN feed...</font>

SammyG 04-18-2007 01:01 AM

I'm stoked its on ESPN. Can not wait.

Nervous Ferret 04-18-2007 01:08 AM

lol
A. It's always been on ESPN
B. The draft is seriously one of the most boring things ever. If you actually watch like all 14 hours of it or something then WOW. Just get the rundown in the paper the next morning

SammyG 04-18-2007 01:35 AM

I'll watch the first round

CSL 04-18-2007 02:00 AM

<font color=white>Well from my side, got no paper rundown. Not much demand for the draft over here. And also...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SammyG
I'll watch the first round

And maybe the 2nd.</font>

FearedSanctity 04-18-2007 05:12 AM

Like I read somewhere else, the person on the cover of Madden usually represents what that years Madden focuses on. When Ray Lewis was on the cover, hit stick. McNabb, that stupid passing shit. Alexander, all that blocking stuff I don't use. So I figure they picked Young because they plan to focus on Superstar mode

weather vane 04-18-2007 06:35 AM

chad johnson is the greatest WR or all time

Mr. Monday Morning 04-18-2007 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CSL
<font color=white>Well from my side, got no paper rundown. Not much demand for the draft over here. And also...



And maybe the 2nd.</font>

If you find a feed hook me up man. Last year I didn't see anything and just listened to streamed ESPN radio while doing other stuff. Would be pretty nice to see the NY fans just go mental every other pick instead of just hearing them though.

"D'Brickashaw Ferguson!"
*mass outrage*

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-18-2007 02:40 PM

Yeah the first few picks are usually pretty good, then I try to catch most of the Patriots picks live after that

CSL 04-18-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Monday Morning
If you find a feed hook me up man. Last year I didn't see anything and just listened to streamed ESPN radio while doing other stuff. Would be pretty nice to see the NY fans just go mental every other pick instead of just hearing them though.

"D'Brickashaw Ferguson!"
*mass outrage*

:y:

Mr. Monday Morning 04-18-2007 02:46 PM

Pretty unreal how good the Pats have been at drafting players, especially the later rounds - even excluding Tom Brady.

Before RP goes on the rampage Colts have been pretty good too. Seattle and San Diego seem to make good picks pretty much all the time too (exceptions, obviously).

Kris P Lettus 04-18-2007 05:18 PM

LOL

Urlacher is being fined $100k by the NFL for drinking Vitamin Water and wearing a Vitamin Water hat during a Super Bowl press confrence.. Gatoraid is the OFFICIAL drink of the NFL..

I dunno, but LOL..

SammyG 04-18-2007 05:53 PM

that is pretty fucking LOL

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-18-2007 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus
LOL

Urlacher is being fined $100k by the NFL for drinking Vitamin Water and wearing a Vitamin Water hat during a Super Bowl press confrence.. Gatoraid is the OFFICIAL drink of the NFL..

I dunno, but LOL..

You think Urlacher didn't get paid to do that? Companys have been doing that shit for years (trying to sneak in with hats and shit like that) so I guess the NFL is starting to crack down on it (I highly doubt Vitamin Water paid him 100,000 to do it, so now that move actaully lost him money)

Gatorade pays huge money to have the exculsive rights so they don't want some company using ambush marketing techniques to get a piece of the market while paying a way lot less money

The Miz 04-18-2007 08:30 PM

lol come on stima. It's not fair at all to Urlacher. If the NFL wants to be sponsored by a corporation that's fine, but it's ridiculous for them to fine Urlacher any more than what Vitamin Water paid him

MTH15 04-18-2007 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk
chad johnson is the greatest WR or all time

I do agree. Chad Johnson is the greatest WR or all time. Besides Jerry Rice, he is also one or the greatest WR's or all time. And as for the draft. I'm watching rounds 1-5.....I got nothing else to do lol. I might just watch 1-3.
:naughty:

VonErichLives 04-18-2007 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
lol come on stima. It's not fair at all to Urlacher. If the NFL wants to be sponsored by a corporation that's fine, but it's ridiculous for them to fine Urlacher any more than what Vitamin Water paid him

can't tell if you're joking or not.

It voilates the NFLPA contract with the NFL. He knew what he was doing and who knows what he got paid.

That being said, slapping him with 100K fine will keep others from doing it, although I suspect some big company will make a deal with a player to pay them and pickup the fine just for the press.

Also, remember this isn't like a rookie undrafted, this is a well paid player, the 100K wont make him homeless.

MTH15 04-18-2007 09:39 PM

Shiiit. They can give me 100k and that would last me for like 12 years lol....
Jamaal Anderson is good.

The Miz 04-19-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by VonErichLives
can't tell if you're joking or not.

I don't believe in unions in pro sports with as much money as the players make nowadays. I think, for example, the New York Yankees should be owned by the borough of the Bronx and not some rich moron who doesn't know shit about baseball, the Boston Celtics by the city of Boston, the Dodgers by the city of Los Angeles etc. The money generated in revenue would go to the cities and the city can pay each player's salary. Every player in the MLB, NHL, NFL and NBA would strike (except for the players on the Packers) but with what little percent of them have college degrees nowadays what the fuck else would they do? Flip burgers? It's not the fault of the owner or player that players make way too much money for playing a game, it's the fault of the system. It was fine how it was before the 60's when free agency didn't exist and the players got paid shit, but with a guy making 25 mil a year it's time for a change.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2007 12:35 AM

It is what it is, the NFL is a business and they are going to do whatever it takes to keep companies from using ambush marketing techniques. Not saying I think it is the greatest thing ever or something, but it makes sense. If the NFL is gonna make who knows how much million because Gatorade is willing to pay so much for the "exclusive" rights then they are going to do whatever it takes to ensure that Gatorade is receiving the exclusive rights. Lets say the NFL did nothing about this, and other players kept wearing Vitamin Water hats to press conferences, Gatorade would probably be pretty pissed and demand that they pay a lot less since they aren't the exclusive sponsor.

I also have a hard time admitting that anything is unfair to a dude who gets paid millions to play a game

The Miz 04-19-2007 01:04 AM

I didn't mean to say the NFL is wrong to fine Urlacher, just that the system blows

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2007 01:25 AM

If they fined Urlacher because he was wearing the wrong colored hat on the sidelines or something I could see some disagreement with the ruling. He was wearing a hat for advertising purposes though, so I dunno

el fregadero 04-19-2007 01:37 AM

Maybe he felt he looked good in that hat and bought it from a store himself? Are they gonna start fining people because they are wearing fashionable clothing?

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2007 01:43 AM

lol do you really think he went out and bought a Vitamin Water hat and matching tshirt to wear at Superbowl Interviews?

SammyG 04-19-2007 01:53 AM

I just think its hilarious that this is even an issue.

OssMan 04-19-2007 02:17 AM

If I was an NFL player I would break every single fucking rule like that, like I'd be a real badass and make public appearances without having the NFL logo on any piece of clothing

VonErichLives 04-19-2007 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AssMan
If I was an NFL player I would break every single fucking rule like that, like I'd be a real badass and make public appearances without having the NFL logo on any piece of clothing

and you would be fined and eventually suspended and as the miz put it, flipping burgers.

It's like any other job, there are rules, working in most retail stores requires a certain dress code so does the nfl, most coproate companies have shirt/tie requirements, some jobs require suits.

to stima comment about socks, the NFL is actually the most strict about dress code, and has someone at each game checking player uniforms and has been known to fine players for everything from sock color to length of towel, those I agree are silly.

As for the vit water thing, can't see how there's any debate here. It doesn't stop him from doing commercials on his own time, just limits him from using the nfl to advertise for a company that isn't a sponser...

That being said, I think powerade would be more of a pissy thing for gatoraid... I drink Vit Water but never think of it was a "replenishing" drink like gatorade or powerade.

VonErichLives 04-19-2007 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Miz
I don't believe in unions in pro sports with as much money as the players make nowadays. I think, for example, the New York Yankees should be owned by the borough of the Bronx and not some rich moron who doesn't know shit about baseball, the Boston Celtics by the city of Boston, the Dodgers by the city of Los Angeles etc. The money generated in revenue would go to the cities and the city can pay each player's salary. Every player in the MLB, NHL, NFL and NBA would strike (except for the players on the Packers) but with what little percent of them have college degrees nowadays what the fuck else would they do? Flip burgers? It's not the fault of the owner or player that players make way too much money for playing a game, it's the fault of the system. It was fine how it was before the 60's when free agency didn't exist and the players got paid shit, but with a guy making 25 mil a year it's time for a change.

not a horrible idea, but what makes you think the person in charge of the team still wouldn't be "some idiot who knows nothing about baseball". Someone still has to run the team, make decisions on who the coach, gm, trainers, trades, free agents etc...

Most pro sports teams already do generate plenty of money for the local area, taxes on gameday sales (from beer to dogs to jerseys), keeping people employed (working at the stadium, then payroll tax), real estate tax, vendors outside the stadium having business (paying licenses and taxes), players salaires which are tax'd like any other employee, hotels and hotel sales and taxes, tourism from visiting teams.

The trade off is now, if a team has a bad year a loses money it doesn't effect the city/town/state.

Also, I'm not sure how your plan changes players making 25mil/year, unless you plan on a salary cap (see: football and basketball for examples) which doesn't exactly eliminate top salaries (and see nfl signing bonuses) a nd the nba (which has more "exception rules" then I've ever been able to figure out, starting with the "larry bird" rule that you could go over the cap if re-signing your own player).

If you mean a cap on how much a player can earn, who decides that amount and shouldn't we do the same with an actor getting 20mil for a movie? and then make the movie studios under public control?

I've never had an issue with free agency or players salaries, the players will get what teams can afford and fans will pay, just like movie stars and such. I have no issue with free agency because it would be like telling a sales rep for Verizon in MA he can't take a job making more money selling for Sprint in NH.

Now, if you want to talk salary cap to level the playing field for "smaller market teams" (see: Red Sox, Yanks vs. Royals) I can see an argument there, still not sure how you tell an owner they "can't" spend their money because someone else doesn't make as much, but in the spirit of competition or more making money for the league (see: Teams like KC that only sell tickets when the Sox & Yanks visit) that's a fair argument.

Kris P Lettus 04-19-2007 09:32 AM

lol

MTH15 04-19-2007 01:10 PM

They make stupid ass rules.

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2007 01:48 PM

Yeah the uniform rules are really dumb, getting fined $5000 if your socks don't meet a certain criteria and things like that but I have no problems with Urlacher getting fined for being a walking billboard during a sponsored NFL event.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-19-2007 05:48 PM

lol Calvin Johnson, Amobi Okoye, and Gaines Adams all smoke marijuana

my heroes :heart: :heart: :heart:

Jesus Shuttlesworth 04-19-2007 06:29 PM

For the first time in my life, I am going to be older then a player (Okoye) in the NFL...It's all down hill from here :(

SammyG 04-19-2007 07:54 PM

Joe Thomas is skipping the draft to go fishing.


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