I feel like you're thinking that fip thinks Stroman is better. That's not what it's for. It's a stat that gives you expected performance for a player based on their rates of walks, homers and strikeouts.

Fip is saying that you should expect/project Stroman to do a little better and Happ to regress a bit.

WAR is the stat you'd use to judge who's better in any given year.

The Orioles have hit 4 homers in the 1st inning first 5 batters

Greatest team of all time

First team in mlb history to hit 4 homers in 1st inning without recording an out.

Game is 7-6 now going into just the 3rd inning

Better than the 27 yanks

Jays got walked off on an inside the park hr

Lessens the pain of losing 14-8 slightly

Sox in a virtual tie for ALE. Loss Column same as the Jays.

Better than the '67 Red Sox.

Red Sox are about to overtake the division with what I think will be relative ease.

I'm still pulling for Toronto baby

You and me both, handsome ;)

Tough loss lastnight but unless your Zach Britton you can't save'm all, plus the whole team apart from the pitching was dreadful last night. Serious concentration lapses.

Nah. I think it's just the peaks and valleys of a season. They have a very, very good rotation and their lineup is legit. They'll be fine.

oh 100 per cent. But they just weren't very good, mainly in the field. Devon Travis was woeful. Just issues of concentration on his part.

No issue with Osuna getting smacked around. Would rather he went out there and gave up bombs then went out there and walked guys. He'll shake it off like he always has.

Was VERY impressed with Liriano. Buck Martinez and Pat Tabler called it before game, and said in his side session he was throwing a nasty 4 seam fastball and it really paid dividends in the start.

Grilli and Benoit were also very good. Grilli this year has been sensational for the Jays and is the glue holding the bullpen together.

Biggest issue for the team is 7-9 in the line up. And by 7-9 I mean Justin Smoak and BJ Upton. Upton I can deal with because he is a very potent ball player when he wants to be, but Justin Smoak has proven time and time again he cannot hit with runners on base and frankly isn't that good with the bases empty. His strikeout rate is staggering. He's a good defensive first basemen but at this point, you may as well have a pitcher batting in his spot. He's been extended, but he deserves to be DFA'd.

When you can only complain about the bottom third of your lineup you're in a good spot lol

well I could complain about a few other things but at the end of the day they're 16 games over .500 and they play hard.

When Upton lines a pitch up, he has a gorgeous swing.

He does. He's a fun player to watch when he gets going.

Another nailbiter in Cleveland.

Damn Baltimore is going to be behind both teams by a couple games now. So happy.

But they're the best team to ever be 2 games behind in their division. Best. Ever.

Droford has been awfully quiet

lol I don't care to give him too hard of a time about Baltimore not doing well, afterall they have a decent enough team to go on a run. As you said Damo, peaks and valleys of the season.

Brett Gardner.. PLAY OF THE FUCKING YEAR HOLY SHIT

HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT

...... videeo?

I saw it, great grab.

Ya but if you let both teams grt like a 4 game lead over you its really doubtful you are coming back from that on both teams. And right now it's all about winning the division instead of the toss up wild card game.

2 nights ago was terrible..amazing they could hit 5 hrs and still lose 15-8. I had last night's game split screened with the Ravens game while also watching Takeover on my phone so it was probably a good thing my attention was diverted since it was probably top 3 worst they've played all year...

With his blessing, Toronto is going to option Aaron Sanchez down for a ten day break.

The Orioles managed to win by dodging Strasburg..

Thanks Tampa Bay. Sox in first place tie.

I only saw one play in that game and it was the home run robbing catch in bottom 8.

Frustrating and Amusing that the Orioles can suck so bad vs the Astros but go crazy vs the Nationals

orules are gunna get their ass swept dude

bet on it

Swept by who? They're up 5-2 in the 1st of 2 in DC and they took both games in Baltimore. Of Scherzer wasn't pitching vs Ubaldo tomorrow id like their chances for a 4 game 2 city 2 series sweep. Stranger things have happened

Plus the Angels are up 6-0 on Toronto..

the DAMN yankees thats who

Rays trying to beat the Sox via walk off

Blue Jays getting haloed by the Angels

lolllllllllllllll

Guaranteed Rate Field

lolllllllllllllll

Where the fuck is Ruien?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Doesn't beat Hard Rock Stadium for the Dolphins though