:D

I'm shocked at when the Bruins usually have a 1-2 goal lead late in the 3rd, they usually find a way to blow it but the two times they played at Pitt, they managed to play great in the 3rd and tie or take a lead.

Source: TSN.ca




Thoughts?

Everyone does it, they just happen to let it slip this time. So they'll pay the "fine." And do it again, without getting caught in the future.

I wouldn't have even called this news, but it must be a slow day in Toronto other than Funberntiensentenieund getting traded there.

Is anyone here in agreement that Brian Burke is by far the most over-rated General Manager in the National Hockey League? I hate this guy with a passion that I can't even put into words. Honestly, the only good thing he has ever done was drafted the Sedins for Vancouver. Sure, you can say he won the Stanley Cup with The Ducks, but the ground work was already laid. After he left there, the Ducks were left with nothing but over paid role players, and haven't had success after Burke was gone.

Now that he is in Toronto, he made by far one of the worst trades in the history of this league by sending 2 first round picks to Boston for Phil Kessel. He traded away the future for a chance to "win now." Well we all know how that is working out for him. It appears that Boston is going to get a top 5 pick in the coming draft again.

What are your thoughts on Brian Burke?

His idea was right in trading for Kessel. But he also thought he'd be able to secure a good playmaker for him, which completely backfired.

I just don't like when GM/coaches bash their own players to the media. I wouldn't say I hate the guy because that is a strong word, I just think his plan fell on its face and he's scrambling.

They have a good playmaker, Mike Komisarek, oh wait :shifty:

Burke is far from the most over-rated GM in the league. You're just spitting out the recycled crap that Al Stratchen spews out.

Well there used to be Darryl Sutter, but he's gone now.

Brian Burke is as overrated a GM as Messier is a leader.

I don't know if I agree with the Messier statement. He was the shit.

What? Messier was awesome.

Care to explain how he was a great leader?

He did kind of help the Rangers break their title curse in 1994 and had key moments leading up to the title.

What hurt the Rangers more was the latter years of them going after too many star or high priced players instead of players who would fit better on the team.

Also was part of the Oilers dynasty during the years with Gretzky and the few without him.

One title makes him a great leader?

Marc Crawford didn't want him on the 98 Olympic team because he was afraid the players would only listen to Messier and not their head coach.

One title? Captained two different teams to a cup. Plus he has 4 other rings, I'd say thats a pretty good indication.

Not to mention he's second all time in points, and he has an NHL leadership award named after him.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say he's overrated.... it just isn't true...

Eric Staal and Lidstrom All Star Captains.

Yeah, Crosby broke his brain so he's out. Shitty timing for him.

Bruins.

Nah, he could still be back in time for it.

what a coincidence.... just was on TSN.ca and this came up lol...

This is only part of the article, the rest is about other great captains in hockey...

I dont see Oilers rings as a show of leadership, he was on a fucking good team at the height or its play. Excellent player, average leader.

Also I FUCKING hate with a fucking passion when people use Stanley Cups as a measure of personal achievement. Its a team achievement, not a personal one.

He lead the rangers yes, but what if he didnt win the Cup after making the call? It wouldnt be remembered much at all.

Also, who did he lead to win? He scored the goals himself.

I love the guy, he is an amazing player but an amazing leader he is not.

He did lead an Oilers team to their final cup with a team missing a lot of their stars from the 80's. I read a biography on the cup winning Rangers and trust me, Messier was the reason. That team had a nutcase for a coach in Keenan who was constantly feuding with Neil Smith, crazy players like Kovalev and players who flat out HATED Keenan. Messier is a tremendous leader.

What if he didn't win the cup after calling the win? Come on... thats just searching for shit to say... what if Gretzky is never born.. yada yada... thats a poor argument, we could spend a thousand hours talking about "what ifs".

At the end of the day... if you have accolades named after you, if you have records in the book that sound like "the only player to...." it means something.

You are living in a very small, very small minority. In fact you are the only person I've ever heard say that about Messier. The arguments for him being a great leader far outweigh those that don't.

Funniest thing I've read about this years all star game. " The all star game has been criticized for poor goaltending, forwards who don't backcheck and players who can't be bothered to care. So in short, Erik Karlsson has played in about 40 of these games this year.

This is the Moose's real legacy, lol

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To this day, my bro and I still break out the "alweese frooosh" line from time to time when chips are involved, lol.

Gotta love the old Messier commercials. :y: Gotta love that you can find almost any old random piece of TV history on youtube.

Fucking Leafs.

Ha Ha

Cheer up Gertner the more they lose the better chance they have at a lottery pick.... oh wait.

Ha Ha

A real shame we can't be doing as good as the Senators this year.

Are you directing that at me? I don't even give a shit about the Senators. I'm a Penguins fan.

Jamstar is the only sens "fan" I know of.

Poor bastard

Thing is, sans getting that toaster for xmas, I havent once heard him talk about hockey.

There was the Canada vs. Oceania hockey match he went too

Rumor has it if he clears waivers, Evgeni Nabakov will sign with the Red Wings

Lol Detroit is getting desperate. Johnny is awful.

So are you at getting names right.

Lol you don't remember Evgeni going by John for a couple years?

I thought you were referring to Jimmy Howard. :(

lol, and the Islanders claimed him off waivers.

Yeah the Islanders can go fuck themselves. Hope he doesnt report to them