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The NFL is the daddy of all football leagues. They're like the WWE in that they swallow every other league whole. Football has the most allure of any sport anymore. It's not hard to "run the NFL right."
And I promise you that letting Reggie Bush wear #5 and "619" under his eyes is not going to make a lick of difference. It might actually improve things. They better enforce the hair rule and make Troy Polamalu get a haircut. And I think they should eliminate visors, because those give certain people a "personalized look," as well. Yep. Tattoos, too. Cut 'em out. |
It's not at all a contributor
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The NBA also has a strict uniform policy and that league is a complete mess. Remember a few years back when they said Kobe's shorts were too long?
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The entire Minnesota Timberwolves team was fined, too.
Then Shaq wore some John Stockton shorts. It was so sexy. |
Yeah I think some uniform rules need to be inplace to keep the game looking professional, but the majority of them are flat out stupid. I am not saying changing the policies would bring in more ratings or something, I am just saying the curret look of the socks are stupid.
http://www.sportsmed.buffalo.edu/mcgahee.jpg That visor is pimp, banned by the NFL though. Apparently that "depersonalizes" the game since we can't see his eyes. haha I can't even tell that is McGahee without seeing his eyes, I mean since it is so easy to see a guys eyes with a helmet on |
I actually prefer the NFL socks in the NFL, if that makes sense. It wouldn't be the same to see NFL players wearing short socks, it's like a trademark of college football.
And what I was saying is that you are wrong about the length of the white sock. Yes, a certain percentage of each must be showing, but you can't do like 95-5. The 1/2 inch rule that you are thinking of is the amount of skin that is allowed at the top. |
Yeah I dont really care about the exact percentage. I am pretty sure players are allowed to have like, lets say 50/50 or like 60/40 or like 30/70. It still eliminates the NFLs excuse that they want all the socks to look the same, becuase they don't.
Also there is plenty of college teams that do wear the NFL style of socks too and it look just as dumb, so saying it seperates the NFL from NCAA isn't relaly true. Not even every team in the NFL wheres the 2 different colored socks, Patriots have a style where there is just 3 stripes on the top. Redskins have a style where it is like 3 brown/3 gold strips. I just don't get why they came up this look and who thinks it looks good. It is the most ridiculous thing ever to wear two different colored socks and I really don't understand where it came from. |
Bunch of white haired old dudes deciding what "looks good" is a pretty ridiculous concept all together though, so I guess the 2 different colored socks makes sense.
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Wow I missed that there was a new page. I like the dark visor, didn't Ricky Williams wear one? But just my point is that the two football leagues rely on being different than each other. That is why college teams that play in pro stadiums don't work very well. There is nothing like Happy Valley or the Big Shoe in the NFL. An NFL team could easily build a similar stadium and probably sell it out, but watching Michigan play in the Big House is a lot different than watching the Lions play there. And I think it carries right over into uniforms.
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/football/ncaa/...otos/miami.jpg When I look at that, I just immediately identify that with college football, specifically in the south. The players just have such a distinctly different look than NFL players, and I don't see any reason to mesh them together. The other thing, somebody mentioned the NBA dress code like it was a bad thing. In my opinion, that is a step in the right direction for this league. Football is considered by most as the best run professional league in sports. You can try to deny that, but consider what we complain about in the NFL as compared to the other leagues. MLB: Steroids NBA: Non-guaranteed contracts, too-money oriented, players don't try NFL: Uniform restrictions, end zone celebrations The NFL takes away the stupid shit that makes the NBA bad. Non-guaranteed contracts, the season and playoffs are not too long, selfish players are put in check (see Terrell Owens compared to Stephon Marbury), and the NFL has a good image. In reality, the NFL is probably just as dirty off the field as the NBA, but NBA players definately have a worse image. I would prefer the NFL to be too-strict outside of the game without sacraficing the actual gameplay, and it's quite obvious that MLB and NBA are not strict enough and that leads right into the gameplay (steroids in MLB and lazy players in the NBA). The best NBA players already are popular without the extra shit. |
How is TO really put in check though? He just got signed to another big contract and continued to get endorsement deals while he was suspended. He also got paid for 4 games while he sat at home and did nothing.
And how does the NFL have the best imagine when one of its best running backs quit to go smoke weed in Asia, came back for a season, got caught smoking weed and is now playing in the CFL? While another player got caught at the airport with a fake dick in his bag so he could pass a piss test. All the leagues have their faults, I think the only reason the NFL is more "professional" than other leagues is because the NFL front office actaully runs the NFL, where as in sports like baseball and basketball the players run the league (Especially in baseball) |
The NFL has credibility because of guys like Ricky Williams and Onterrio Smith. There are rumors circulating that a third of NBA players play every game high, yet Chris Anderson is the only noteworthy player to ever be punished. The fact that the NFL actually does something about their problem players shows that it has more control than any other league.
As for TO, he lost a lot of money, lost basically a full season in his prime and I'm pretty sure his new deal has a lot of clauses about his antics. In the NBA, Stephon Marbury or Allen Iverson put up hissy fits, continue to play selfishly and get raises. |
People see the NFL as the most professional because the NFLPA does not run the NFL, thus allowing the "professional" people in the NFL Front office to keep control. In MLB, MLBPA runs the show, I am pretty sure if a new CBA isn't instated by July (Or sometime in the near future, pretty sure it is July) Major League Baseball with revert back to its old drug policy. Thus showing that MLB Front Office is completely powerless.
I really don't see how people consider the NFL more professional than the NBA though, they both seem to have pretty good "credibility" - the NFL just happens to be more popular at this point in time. The difference between the contracts came because players in the NFL are a lot more likely to get hurt, so teams do not want to pay injuried players. That is where the non-guarenteed contact came from so owners/coaches are able to use that power to cut players under contract. Thus elminating more "hissy fits" from players because they know they will be fired, I really don't see less "hissy fits" going on in the NFL than the NBA though. Chad Johnson was rumored to get into it with his coach in the locker room of the playoff game, Chris Henry is being tried on gun charges, as well as Sean Taylor. What is gonna happen to Sean Taylor after being caught with a gun?...nothing. So if anything, the NFL is showing that on the field incidents like fighting with your QB are more important then carrying around an illegal handgun. The NFL contracts lead to more hold outs and that makes the players look like "greedy assholes" when really they are just doing the samething the owners are doing. The owners aren't loyal to players, why should the players be loyal to teams? I have no problem with the players "Fuck you pay me" attitudes because you sign a 7 year deal for 60mil but after 3 years its could be "Fuck you you're cut." Also when is the last time you saw the first pick in the NBA draft cry and complain about not wanting to play in a certain city, then get his request approved and traded to a different team? So while the NBA players have more of a "thug image" (That has nothing to do with 95% of the players being black either) they really aren't any different than players in the NFL. I think the NFL and NBA are very similar in regardles to their professionalism. Plus outside of Ricky Williams, who is another 'key" person banned because of drugs? Outside of a couple guys getting 4 suspensions for steriods I can't remember any. |
And with that said i'll add this..
Bob Sanders might be the greatest saftey in the history of football after this upcoming season. |
Never too early...
League ID#: 1858
League Name: Larry Sanders Memorial League Password: gary Draft Type: Live Draft Draft Time: Tue Sep 5 7:00pm CDT [ Add to My Calendar ] Max Teams: 10 Scoring Type: Head-to-Head Start Scoring on: Week 1 Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports Max Moves: No maximum Max Trades: No maximum Trade Reject Time: 0 Trade End Date: November 17, 2006 Trade Review: League Votes Waiver Time: No waivers Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules Playoffs: Week 15 and 16 (4 teams) Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, D, D, D, D, D, D, D, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN Stat Categories: Passing Yards (50 yards per point) Passing Touchdowns (6) Interceptions (-2) Rushing Yards (10 yards per point) Rushing Touchdowns (6) Reception Yards (20 yards per point) Reception Touchdowns (6) Return Touchdowns (6) 2-Point Conversions (2) Fumbles Lost (-2) Offensive Fumble Return TD (6) Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3) Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3) Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3) Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4) Field Goals 50+ Yards (5) Point After Attempt Made (1) Tackle Solo (1) Tackle Assist (0.5) Sack (3) Interception (2) Fumble Force (2) Fumble Recovery (2) Touchdown (6) Safety (2) Pass Defended (1) Block Kick (2) Fractional Points: No Negative Points: Yes |
bastard, i created one too cuz i didn't see a thread on it.
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NAH CHILL ON THAT. Let the people who usually run it, run it. Yours will be a last resort or so.
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Stima, Allan Houston is making 19 million dollars this year, as is Chris Webber. Michael Finley is making 18 mil, Brian Grant 16 mil, Anfernee Hardaway is making 15 mil, Tim Thomas 14 mil and Antonio Davis 13 mil. That is why you need non-guaranteed contraacts, especially with a salary capped league.
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You can't compare the 2 leagues like that though, basketball and football are very different games. Just take a look at a training camp, you got 70 or so guys going out 53 spots on the active roster. In the NBA you don't see 20 extra guys going out for the team, for the most part, there is one or maybe two open spots on an NBA roster. The NFL needs the non-guaranteed contracts because if a player goes on IR, an NFL franchise can go out and sign a player then cut him when the other player comes back from injury. Things like that are why, in theory, the NFL has non-guaranteed contracts. They don't have them so they can cut people who are assholes. Plus in the NFL, look at some guys getting paid huge signing bonuses who ended up being busts. You really can't compare an NFL contract to an NBA contract but an NFL contract is front heavy with huge signing bonuses because that money is guaranteed, where as in the NBA it is more spread out because why do the players care when they are getting the money? They are gonna get all of it at some point.
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But the thing is, if you sign say Edgerin James with a huge signing bonus and a big contract, he turns out to be a bust and you eventually cut him, it doesn't really hurt the team because the signing bonus doesn't go against the salary cap. You look at the Knicks, they have too many overpriced players and there is nothing they can do about it. Allan Houston is the second highest player in the league right now and he isn't even playing! That's why the NBA is a fucked up league.
Like has been stated by both of us, football just has the strongest control over its players. I don't know though, we are now just going in circles, I'm going back to the baseball forum :rant: |
You cut a 20 million dollar player, who are you gonna get to replace him? You can't. The talent isn't that deep in basketball yet. All the veterans are either signed, or not good enough to sign. That's why people will put in calls trying to get someone like Jordan to unretire. Plus, every team in the NBA is balls deep in the salary cap. Those that aren't.... aren't because they will trade picks and young talent for a huge contract to a team willing to take on a big contract. Like the Timberwolves, who will never get better.
But in the NFL, you cut someone, that's fine. You'll take a cap hit, sure, and that cripples teams all the time, like the Titans, Packers, 49ers, etc... Thing is, there are only 5-10 players you're paying top-end money in the NBA. So one player will make a huge difference. But in the NFL, you will give 5 mil to maybe 20 players. Not exactly that much, but you get the idea. There's a lot more money being spent in the NFL more widely throughout the team. So you can cut a player no problem, and replace him just fine as well. There's always a player sitting at home, or a team looking to unload someone for a low pick. But if you run out of cap room (and the NFL has no luxury tax), then you need to start unloading lots of players. So we have Allan Houston making 20 mil, and we have two years ago the Tennessee Titans were what, 50 mil over the cap? It was absurd. They were cutting draft picks, team captains, superstars, pro bowlers... EVERYONE. Yet they kept McNair. 20 million a year McNair, who is usually injured anyway. The two leagues have shades of each other, definitely. But their differences are there because they have to be. You have 5 positions in the NBA. Most players can play at least two positions. So there are not exactly "pay scales," like the difference between QB and FB. Along with what I already said about the roster size... and the luxury tax... it's impossible to make them the same, but they are as much alike as they can be. |
Titans trade QB McNair to Baltimore
By TERESA M. WALKER, AP Sports Writer NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Steve McNair finally split with Tennessee Titans and is heading for Baltimore. McNair, who led the Titans to the 2000 Super Bowl, was finally dealt Wednesday to a team that has been seeking a prime quarterback throughout its 10-year existence. He still had to pass a physical in Baltimore to finalize the deal, but the Ravens planned to introduce the man who shared the NFL's MVP award in 2003 as their new quarterback at a news conference Thursday afternoon. ADVERTISEMENT The Titans swapped the face of their franchise and a fan favorite for what is believed to be a fourth-round pick in next spring's draft. They had been trying to renegotiate McNair's salary from his scheduled $9 million to reduce a $23.46 million salary cap hit. "Obviously, the best situation would've been somehow to have been able to pay him what his market value was and keep him," said Bus Cook, McNair's agent. "Without that, it's best for everybody that Steve moves on." McNair, who turned 33 in February, was the winningest quarterback in franchise history. In 11 seasons, he went 81-59 and shared the MVP award with Peyton Manning three years ago. The quarterback won a grievance last week that allowed him to return to the team's headquarters and work out after being told he couldn't on April 3. But the Titans had given McNair's agent permission to talk with Baltimore on April 30 about a contract, and Cook worked out a five-year deal with an $11 million signing bonus and $1 million salary for 2006. That was much more than McNair could get from the Titans, who had drafted quarterback Vince Young of Texas with the third overall pick in April. The Titans declined to comment after issuing a brief statement announcing the trade. "Upon passing a physical, final trade terms will be agreed upon," the statement said. McNair is expected to be the starting quarterback for the team that ended the Titans' bid for a second straight Super Bowl appearance in 2001. That loss is merely one piece of the former AFC Central rivalry featuring physical games and trash-talking between the coaches. Kyle Boller, the Ravens' incumbent QB, conceded on Tuesday that McNair would likely be the starter. "If Steve gets here, or when he gets here, we'll handle it then. But as far as now, I'm just out here competing and trying to get this offense where it needs to be," Boller said. "I'm going about my business right now like I'm the starter. That's the only way I can think of it." Ravens coach Brian Billick said Wednesday players know change can happen at any position. He also wasn't worried about McNair's physical, even though the Titans had asked for a new physical, saying McNair failed his exit physical after missing the regular season finale with a strained pectoral muscle. "As I understand it, he was cleared to play in the Pro Bowl. That one I'll leave it to a higher pay grade than me to figure out how someone can fail an exit physical but be cleared to play in the Pro Bowl. I'm a little confused about that myself," Billick said. The trade gives the Ravens the first star quarterback they have ever had. "You can tell that from his mannerisms on the field and how he portrays and handles himself. He definitely brings some stability to the quarterback position," said tight end Todd Heap, who played with McNair in the Pro Bowl. The trade also will reunite McNair with his favorite receiver. Derrick Mason signed with Baltimore last year after being among several starters released in a salary cap purge. He watched McNair a couple times last season and said the quarterback did a great job. "I figure he's still got two, three four years left in him if he doesn't take the shots that he did in previous years," Mason said. McNair is one of only four players in NFL history with 150 touchdowns passing and 35 rushing, trailing only Steve Young, Randall Cunningham and Steve Grogan. He is one of five with 25,000 yards passing and 3,000 yards rushing, a group that includes John Elway, Fran Tarkenton, Young and Randall Cunningham. During his MVP season, McNair had a 100.4 passer rating and led the Titans to a wild-card playoff victory over the Ravens in Baltimore and came up short on a late drive in a divisional loss at New England. McNair played in 14 games in 2005 and threw for 3,161 yards and 16 touchdowns with 11 interceptions. He missed the regular season finale because of a strained pectoral muscle, but recovered to play in the Pro Bowl in February. "The bottom line is it's in everybody's best interest to look to the future and not to the past," Cook said. |
Air McNair is washed up anyways.
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Just read the rest of this page now, it wasn't showing up earlier when i was on for whatever reason. AlphaBean's was the last post to show. My bad :o
He's passed his physical now BTW, he's officially a Raven. Titan's may look to bring in Kerry Collins as a replacement for this season so Vince Young isn't rushed into it too quickly. |
You think McNair the PRO BOWLER is washed up, yet they're gonna bring in Collins?
Doubt it. Give Volek a year. Let him show his stuff so he can get a fat contract somewhere. Hell, if they have time... trade him, even. :cool: |
Vince Young = Carlos Beltran of Football
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So Bean, I read there were up to 100 coaches and players there today, meet anybody cool?
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:lol: BACKUP QBs 4 LIFE. I was in line for lunch with Rob Berzinski, Mewelde Moore stopped and gushed over my niece and I said "Amanda, meet our starting RB!" and he laughed. I just kinda hung out, I didn't do too much "introducing" because I think those guys are embarrassing. I yelled at Birk to take it easy because he was lifting something too heavy and he might get hurt. Some rookie was filling a tarp with mulch for me and another dude, and Lewienski was like, "dude, take it easy... they're not football players" :cool: On the way to dump it off, Sid Hartman was standing there so I told him to help me. He just smirked. Smuggest asshole of all time. At the end of the day, though, I won a weed whacker as a door prize. A Vikings cheerleader gave it to me. :cool: http://www.alphabean.net/vikesday/43.jpg Hot shit. Mayor RT Rybak stood next to me while the kids sang "take me out to the ballgame" and Sid was on my other side. I was like "wtf what a place to stand." http://www.alphabean.net/vikesday/index.html I didn't get too many pics, but there was one dude there... Sean Bubin... big silly lookin' white dude with long hair, looked like a monster. 6'5" 300 pounds, and it was all muscle. :love: It was overload for me. I'm all sunburned now and sore and tired because I worked the night before and didn't get to sleep until 2 before getting up at 7... but man... awesomeness. LOL of course I wasn't on the news... they got lots of video of me working, but nobody wants to see AlphaBean working, they want to see Fred Smoot hanging a sign. |
I've always been a fan of Charlie Batch, and always wanted him to get a shot, but man not this way.
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Steelers maybe, but how exactly are the Pats and Colts crumbling? I'll go ahead and call it. Pats Colts AFC title game. |
Edgerrin James, though I gotta admit... if anyone can survive losing half their team, it's the Pats.
But whether they're "fucked," or not, they're still not as good as they were last year. The Steelers lost the heart and soul of their team, and the "closer" in their games in Bettis, they lost their leading passer in the Superbowl to the Redskins... now they almost lost Roethlisberger. Shame he's gonna come back from this. :( Also, sup with Brackett? |
Nothing that i know of. You mean Cato June?
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You probably wont cause i predicted Cheifs vs Carolina Superbowl last year in the NFL thread. Colts lost a few people, but consider this. Polian is probably the best player personel person in the league and the players the Colts have drafted in the past that you dont know about will step in. Maybe not be better then Thorton, Triplett ( Overated ) or Edge ( Addai eventually will ), but they will get the job done. Remember Cato June last year? Remember Gary Brackett? There's a 6 year history of this. Its not the first time they lost players. And despite there losses in personel, they still have probably the best team in the league on paper( which is easy to say ). I havent given up hope, but i think its coming. By it i mean the Superbowl. |
Robert Mathis is playing fulltime defensive end this season. Colts defense will be sick. I could easily see 4 pro bowlers and 3 all pro's. Marlin Jackson will probably eventually move to saftey. I think Jason David is the guy to look out for.
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Is the page thing messed up for anybody else? It says I am on page 18 of 19, but it won't let me see page 19?
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Robert Mathis weighs all of 240 pounds, so he's going to get destroyed on between the tackle runs, which means that what beat the Colts in the past will beat the Colts again.
Also, they will be running less without Edge... so Manning will have more pressure on him, so he will probably A) have more stats than last year, and B) won't be as successful, because you can't succeed without a running game. |
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