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Skippord 02-05-2012 01:56 AM

almost similar?

Droford 02-05-2012 02:00 AM

I only mention Eddie George because on ProFootballReference, Curtis Martin is rated similarly to Eddie George through the first 9 years.

Plus I remember Eddie George a hell of a lot better cause of all the games vs the Ravens.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 02:01 AM

Look at the yards again Droford and the fumbles. 4,000+ more all-purpose yards for Curtis Martin. 'Nuff said.

Droford 02-05-2012 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3756250)
almost similar?

Both were consistently around 1,000 yards a season their entire career. Martin played almost 2 seasons more games than Eddie George did which shows the discrepency in career yards. I can't say anything for the fumbles but its only a couple fumbles more..

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 02:06 AM

The years played is part of the deal. Eddie George couldn't cut it anymore and Curtis Martin had a career year in his final full season.

90 to 68 Rushing touchdowns? See reason for christ's sake.

Droford 02-05-2012 02:10 AM

Name the Non Hall of Fame RB who had a similar career to these players:

Career Jim Brown*, Tony Dorsett*, Tiki Barber, Roger Craig, Eric Dickerson*, Curtis Martin*, Lenny Moore*, Fred Taylor, Barry Sanders*, John L. Williams

*=HOF

SPOILER: show
Ricky "Running" Watters


surprised he isn't in the HOF..I think of him being a hell of a lot more suited to be in the HOF than martin..

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 02:12 AM

You have a hate for the Jets or the Pats or something? Allergic reaction to the truth?

Droford 02-05-2012 02:18 AM

When someone says "Curtis Martin", I dont think "Hall of Fame RB"

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 02:19 AM

<font color=goldenrod>I really hope the 3 wideouts make it in soon because in a few years offensive players trying to get into the HOF might be hurt by the NFL's current offensive explosion. The Andre Dawson Effect.</font>

Droford 02-05-2012 02:21 AM

HOF needs to put some kickers in

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 02:29 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Ray Guy needs to be in. The voters seem to think that punters don't belong in but he was a legitimate game changer. If Guy doesn't go in, no punter ever will.</font>

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3756277)
When someone says "Curtis Martin", I dont think "Hall of Fame RB"

When I think Droford, I think Hall of Fame moron/jackass. You're full of shit which is vintage Droford.

By stats alone he's a HOF. Of course had you read them you wouldn't have even posted them since they disprove everything you said. He did the 10,000 in 10 years which has only been done by Barry Sanders.

Now there are the other things that make up a HOF: being a great teammate and influence on the team/community.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 02:34 AM

Kickers of all kinds are shunned by the Hall of Fame. Why in the name of fuck isn't Gino Cappelletti in the Hall of Fame?

Droford 02-05-2012 03:03 AM

ooh, forgot to mention

Suggs Defensive Player Of The Year!

Gonzo 02-05-2012 03:03 AM

Curtis Martin is a HOF RB, no question in my mind.

Droford 02-05-2012 03:08 AM

whoops

Quote:

The Giants.com page briefly had a headline that read "The Giants are Super Bowl champions!" with an ad for official Giants Super Bowl championship gear on it. There was a link to enter Giants.com on the image which contained game photos of defensive end Justin Tuck, linebacker Mathias Kiwanuka, defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul, quarterback Eli Manning and a shot of the Vince Lombardi trophy.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 03:13 AM

CANCEL THOSE RESERVATIONS!

Droford 02-05-2012 03:22 AM

Some poor kid in Africa will be wearing the Giants Super Bowl 46 Champions shirt.

James Steele 02-05-2012 03:27 AM

I have only ever rooted for the Giants once (SB XLII) and I will never do it again, so slap me on the ass and call me Cream Pie because I'm rooting for the Patriots. It helps that I played high school ball with a guy currently on the Pats roster.

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SlickyTrickyDamon 02-05-2012 03:27 AM

You're not doing this just to jinx us are you?

James Steele 02-05-2012 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3756347)
You're not doing this just to jinx us are you?

No. I hate all Northeastern and teams west of the Rocky Mountains, but the Giants were half-ass likeable in 07 and the Pats were very unlikeable after Spygate, the "17 points? LAWL" thing, and Randy Moss being a piece of shit. I also can't stand that people will ever consider Eli Manning better than Peyton if he wins this game. Plus, I've grown to like Bill Belichick after watching some of the NFL Films/NFL Network productions (2 part Football Life, NFL Network SoundFX) done on him. Plus, I want a guy I have known since 8th grade to get a Super Bowl ring because that would be pretty friggin' neat.

Gonzo 02-05-2012 11:57 AM

I don't think Eli is "better" than Peyton but Eli, generally, delivers in big games. I think he is more clutch than Peyton.

Innovator 02-05-2012 12:05 PM

I think I'm developing a tick.

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 12:18 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Not too happy about the glitch on the Giants website. Pretty obvious they accidentally tested the image in the live environment. But the hats look awesome. Gonna be so sad if I can't pick up one of those bad boys during the week. :(

#ALLIN</font>

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 01:08 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Let's wager on how many of these prop bets Droford has money on:</font>

http://www.sbnation.com/2012-super-b...iants-patriots

Nark Order 02-05-2012 01:16 PM

Giants talked a bunch more trash than I thought they would in the buildup for this. Kind of acting like sunsabitches. Wouldn't mind Brady getting his revenge but I still will root for New York so I can feel easier about them beating us if they win the big one.

DaveWadding 02-05-2012 01:41 PM

you still won't feel better about Kyle Williams beating you though.

Nark Order 02-05-2012 01:58 PM

No, probably not. Probably not.

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 02:29 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Chris Canty tweeted a score prediction of 28-17 Giants. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DO YOUR TALKING ON THE FIELD. WHY DO THE GIANTS FEEL THE NEED TO GIVE THE PATS EXTRA BULLETIN BOARD MATERIAL EVERY DAY? GODDDDDDDDDDDD :mad:

Heart rate = 150</font> :shifty:

Nark Order 02-05-2012 02:42 PM

Just watched the NFL Honors. Was Terrell Suggs with a hooker? Lol, Jesus. That woman looked like she had a couple thousand miles on her.

Emperor Smeat 02-05-2012 03:42 PM

Goodell and the NFL considering getting rid of the Pro Bowl game if interest drops again and there is no way to improve it to make everyone happy. Even gave a small hint of possibly moving it out of Hawaii since most players seem more interested in the vacation than playing a game.

They already moved it from the week after to now the week before the SB to help generate interest but it hasn't really worked out well.

Gonzo 02-05-2012 03:50 PM

So fucking excited. COME GET SOME.

Triple Naitch 02-05-2012 03:52 PM

Puppy Bowl on in 10 minutes.

#CANTWAIT

Droford 02-05-2012 04:23 PM

lol Rex Ryan is in an Adam Sandler movie and he has a poster of Tom Brady that Sandler destroys and he goes "he has the perfect amount of scruff".

WTF

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 04:51 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Wonder if there's a prop bet on how many roughing the passer calls Brady will get tonight. Considering you can get a flag for doing so much as coughing on him after the ball is released I'd set the over/under at 3. Meanwhile Eli will draw no flags even if he gets pounded after the throw.</font>

Hanso Amore 02-05-2012 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3756241)
Is Eddie George a HOF RB? Because he had almost similar career numbers over the exact same time span.

Eddie George:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><thead><tr class=""><th class="tooltip sort_default_asc" align="left">Year</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Att</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/A</th> <th class="tooltip hide_non_quals" align="center">Y/G</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Rec</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Yds</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">TD</th> <th class="tooltip" align="center">Fmb</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="delete_this_tip"><td colspan="1">
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</td></tr><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">335</td> <td align="right">1368</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">85.5</td> <td align="right">23</td> <td align="right">182</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">357</td> <td align="right">1399</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3.9</td> <td align="right">87.4</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">44</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">348</td> <td align="right">1294</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">80.9</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">310</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">7</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">1304</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">4.1</td> <td align="right">81.5</td> <td align="right">47</td> <td align="right">458</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">403</td> <td align="right">1509</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.7</td> <td align="right">94.3</td> <td align="right">50</td> <td align="right">453</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">315</td> <td align="right">939</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.0</td> <td align="right">58.7</td> <td align="right">37</td> <td align="right">279</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">8</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">343</td> <td align="right">1165</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">3.4</td> <td align="right">72.8</td> <td align="right">36</td> <td align="right">255</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">312</td> <td align="right">1031</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">64.4</td> <td align="right">22</td> <td align="right">163</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">1</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">132</td> <td align="right">432</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">33.2</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">83</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="9" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">141</td> <td align="right">2865</td> <td align="right">10441</td> <td align="right">68</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">74.0</td> <td align="right">268</td> <td align="right">2227</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">37</td></tr></tfoot></table>


Curtis Martin:
<table class="sortable stats_table row_summable row_summable" id="rushing_and_receiving"><tbody><tr data-row="0" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1995"><td align="left">1995*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">368</td> <td align="right">1487</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">92.9</td> <td align="right">30</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="1" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1996"> <td align="left">1996*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1152</td> <td align="right">14</td> <td align="right">3.6</td> <td align="right">72.0</td> <td align="right">46</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">4</td> </tr> <tr data-row="2" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1997"> <td align="left">1997</td> <td align="right">13</td> <td align="right">274</td> <td align="right">1160</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">89.2</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">296</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">3</td> </tr> <tr data-row="3" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1998"> <td align="left">1998*</td> <td align="right">15</td> <td align="right">369</td> <td align="right">1287</td> <td align="right">8</td> <td align="right">3.5</td> <td align="right">85.8</td> <td align="right">43</td> <td align="right">365</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">5</td> </tr> <tr data-row="4" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.1999"> <td align="left">1999</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">367</td> <td align="right">1464</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">91.5</td> <td align="right">45</td> <td align="right">259</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="5" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2000"> <td align="left">2000</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">1204</td> <td align="right">9</td> <td align="right">3.8</td> <td align="right">75.3</td> <td align="right">70</td> <td align="right">508</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="6" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2001"> <td align="left">2001*</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">1513</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">4.5</td> <td align="right">94.6</td> <td align="right">53</td> <td align="right">320</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="7" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2002"> <td align="left">2002</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">261</td> <td align="right">1094</td> <td align="right">7</td> <td align="right">4.2</td> <td align="right">68.4</td> <td align="right">49</td> <td align="right">362</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">0</td> </tr> <tr data-row="8" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2003"> <td align="left">2003</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">323</td> <td align="right">1308</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">81.8</td> <td align="right">42</td> <td align="right">262</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr data-row="9" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2004"> <td align="left">2004*+</td> <td align="right">16</td> <td align="right">371</td> <td align="right">1697</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">4.6</td> <td align="right">106.1</td> <td align="right">41</td> <td align="right">245</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> <tr style="background-color: rgb(221, 238, 255); background-image: url(&quot;http://d2ft4b0ve1aur1.cloudfront.net/images-001/aqua.png&quot;);" data-row="10" class="full_table" id="rushing_and_receiving.2005"> <td align="left">2005</td> <td align="right">12</td> <td align="right">220</td> <td align="right">735</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">3.3</td> <td align="right">61.3</td> <td align="right">24</td> <td align="right">118</td> <td align="right">0</td> <td align="right">2</td> </tr> </tbody> <tfoot> <tr data-row="11" class="stat_total"> <td align="left">Career</td> <td align="right">168</td> <td align="right">3518</td> <td align="right">14101</td> <td align="right">90</td> <td align="right">4.0</td> <td align="right">83.9</td> <td align="right">484</td> <td align="right">3329</td> <td align="right">10</td> <td align="right">29</td></tr></tfoot></table>


LOL. IF you think these are similar, you must think you look like Brad Pitt.

Using the "similar" rankings on PFR is stupid enough.

Looking at the 4th leading rusher of all time, and comparing him him to someone because they were somewhat close over a period is stupid. They base his stats on his career.

I never watched his career and thought "someday this guy will be in the Hall" like most did with Barry Sanders, but when you look at his career its CLEAR he belongs.

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 04:57 PM

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Innovator 02-05-2012 05:33 PM

I DONT CARE WHO OBAMA WANTS IN THE GAME, JESUS CHRIST

Evil Vito 02-05-2012 05:44 PM

Mark Herzlich is inactive :( not surprised but it would have been cool to see him out there. In more surprising news, Kevin Faulk is inactive.

OssMan 02-05-2012 06:45 PM

What was the deal with NBC playing salsa music after that catch, seriously


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