Yeah if I'm ever at ANY event that plays Rains of Castamere, I'm peace-ing the fuck out.

I don't really agree with the scene in the books and in the show, but I can admit that it is powerful stuff in both. I can see why Martin would have found it "necessary" to do, or whatever, though.

lol it is his world to manipulate as author, so there isn't really anything to "agree with" here.

I was not trying to infer that he had to run it past me, and that my personal opinion matters to him.

As an executive producer, it had his approval. No one has any right to bitch about how it should have been done. He quite obviously saw that it fit his story well enough to go with it.

Read that George Martin wrote this scene last in the book. He skipped it when he was writing, finished the rest of the book and then came back to it. Also said he purposely didn't want to be involved too much in this episode because it hurt so much to write the first time that he just couldn't do it again. That's why he didn't write this episode like he has for a couple through the show's life, and like people thought he would since it is such an important episode.

I think the show did it justice though.


Sounds like Lock Jaw just doesn't agree with this happening at all, not necessarily any differences. So what is it you don't agree with?

Heavy loading most of A Storm of Swords into this season. All of Dany's story from the book is pretty much complete.

So,

As someone like yourself who is up to date with the books, it honestly could not have gone smoother. The only thing that I think they SHOULD have done differently for a more (somehow) epic feel was

Season 3 Episode 9 Spoiler Below


Chances are, they may include bits and pieces from her, remember that the show doesn't necessarily have to follow the narrative of the books since you are reading some POV chapters that may have took place a long time before the previous chapter.



A Feast For Crows Spoiler


No it isn't. If you think characters you love dying is something that will cause you to stop reading, best do so now because if you think its all sunshine and lollipops later, you are sadly, sadly mistaken.

The Starks of course are looked at as the main plot characters, mostly due I think to the actions of Jaime setting off the chain of events. However that isn't to say that nothing would have happened without him showing Bran out the window.

Also guys, what might be useful is to notate what your spoilers are encompassing so peeps know if its safe to click or not.

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And now, a terrible joke.

Why doesn't George RR Martin have a Twitter account?

The major plot of the series is Ice vs Fire. Whatever else is going on in Westeros and Essos is going to play second fiddle to Dragons and the White Walkers.

I personally think it is just fantastic writing. If you really pay attention to the details, you can see it coming so long ago. It's like everyone secretly hopes that people wont receive consequences for making stupid decisions. We all want the happy storybook ending all the time, and here is a series that just won't give it to us. Characters are forced to live with every decision they make, good or bad. Others are just bystanders in those decisions and are affected by them.

Robb wasn't even TRYING to become king. He was trying to exact vengeance on the Lannisters for his father. There was his first mistake. It was a war of passion, not one where he bothered to really think about what he was doing and what it would lead to. He was fighting passionately against people who are thinking critically and treacherously to stop him. They were fighting for totally different reasons, and his just happened to keep him from doing what it took to truly be King. He thought once it was all over he could just hand the city over to someone and go back north and live the rest of his days. Come on, that's too perfect. That kind of shit never happens realistically.

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That was an awesome version of the song.

All you guys are babbling on about stuff in the books but nobody comforted me by telling me if that annoying, goofy looking guy with Daenerys right now dies soon.

Daario is the worst

Eff that guy. Gonna stop watching if I have to see his weird face all the time.

Why can't she end up with a nice man like that bloke that's been following her round from the beginning.

I have that as my ringtone :):)

Very fitting :lol:

Didn't care for book Daario but show Daario is the man stfu all of you.

He reminds me of a gay elf.

I have to say the reverse is true for me. Very disappointed by the lack of blue beard.

Ok, this is amazing:

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My friend who has recently started Season 1 had the events of the Red Wedding spoiled for him by the newspaper on his way to work. lol.

All the more reasons to hate newspapers

This doesn't surprise me.

I agree, mostly BECAUSE of how they changed his appearance. It paints him (lol) totally differently. His vibrant blue hair and beard in the books really makes him seem flamboyant, attention seeking, far more 'weird' than he comes across in the show.


In the show, I can see how people hate him simply because he's encroaching on our Ser Jorah's territory, but let's face it.. they were never going to end up together, and anyone who thought they were is kidding themselves. Dany is at least smart enough to realize that, and she has moved on from him already. Jorah is still clinging to hope when he should have figured it out a long time ago. She is more than Jorah could ever be, and while she appreciates his help and would have been nowhere without him probably, they are not destined to be together. She is too important to end up with some middle-aged exile from Westeros who is only there because he dishonored himself.


Daario represents youth and freedom to her. He's intriguing to her. Let's keep in mind she's a 14 year old girl waging war against slavery in the old world. She's got an obvious teen mancrush on someone who is, to be honest, kind of a badass. She hasn't seen much of the world. Maybe some streets for a while, and then she grew up in luxury for the remainder of her childhood. All she has known really have been the Dothraki since then. Her husband was a khal, a MIGHTY fucking KING of horselords essentially, though he didn't rule the entirety of the Dothraki. Did people really want her to end up with hairy old Jorah Mormont, nice as he may be?

I just think he looks like a huge goof.

Also something weird with the way he talks. Almost looks like he's just miming and he's been overdubbed.

God bless the Internet:

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Found him much more interesting in the books, Like Igin said he looks like too much of a goof.


And yes I realize how odd that sounds considering I think he would look less of one with a dyed beard.

I wonder if

Seeing that they never showed that during Daenerys' visions at the House of Undying, I doubt it.

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