<<< Huge dinosaur mark as a pup.

Kalyx beat me to the punch. I also thought regular Velociraptors were about 6 feet. It's been a while since I've actually brushed up on my Dino knowledge though

Utahs should be bigger, though you could say the movie raptors were just small Utahs

Then again, these were frog-DNA dinos.

What's up with all these new depictions of Raptors with feathers? Fuck that noise. That doesn't sound very scary...more like a 6 foot turkey.

I marked out when Raptors were added to the Dino population of Skull Island in King Kong

You'll find them scary when a raptor gives you a death stare. Also JP3 took many liberties with the raptor design to make them look scarier ('evil' eyes, longer teeth). It worked for me, though the narrative about them being smart as monkeys was a bit forced.

True, but they didn't really look any scarier to me. They just seemed faker. They were almost too polished and exotic looking, to the point where it's like the type of thing you'd see on a cheap ride or museum exhibit.

Pterodactyls looked cool, though.

Feathers on the raptors was actually the correct depiction.

I know I was referring to the searching I was doing online just now, not JP3. In either case, I don't like it. I'm attached to the JP1 Raptors, regardless of their scientific accuracy.

They need to bust out the Compeys that killed Hammond.

They did, for Dieter

Was this in JPIII? I have little recollection of that.

Edit: Never mind, The Lost World. Do not remember that.

Had a hard time finding Compies deadly. They're fucking chickens with an attitude.

Lost World

Yea but they pack hunt. It's the same idea as Pirahnas

Don't find piranhas scary. Gold fish with attitudes.

lol. Still, I can honestly say I'd rather stick my hand in a goldfish bowl than a piranha tank.

As thrilled as I am for the continuation of one of my favorite movie series, I have two concerns:

One, as already discussed, how closely will the movie follow the latest scientific evidence concerning dinosaurs. I actually hope they only sample some tidbits and choose to use entertainment over accuracy.

Second, I'm hoping to see more experienced hunters. There was one in JP and JPLW, but they were both taken out fairly quickly. It'd be nice to see just one last the majority of the film.

Tembo didn't get taken out

From the second one right? It has been a while since I've seen it but didn't he get taken out by a Rex?

Every character in Jurassic Park was an experienced hunter by the second toy line.

Random thought: i'd like to see more of the Triceratops involved the next one preferrably.

Most of the T-rex fossil findings have been from the United States. I think that's pretty awesome.

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I remember in the first movie when Wayne Knight ended up dropping that DNA canister into the mud a few people were thinking that it would lead to a sequel to where the canister would play into it.

Was one of those who'd theorized that would come into play perhaps they may finally tie the loose end so to speak and come to think of I seem to recall another event in the movie that was left sorta open ended.

no. a rex got taken out by him. we've been over this in this thread already. it is why tembo is the most badass hunter in the series, especially over frauds like muldoon.

http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Page...assic-park.jpg

God T-Rex's are bad ass.

watching JP right now on HBO family entertainment. I have it on dvd, but there's something about watching it "live"

Ian Malcolm had a strong influence on me when I was a pup.

Ian Malcolm was one of the coolest action figures ever, because it was hard to find and anticipated (came out after the first wave)

He was also just an awesome character.

http://www.figurerealm.com/Galleries...lm-Series2.jpg

Big fuckin' gun.

I still have that toy. Gun is long gone. At my moms my neices always play with it and an old roddy piper of mine, and have fights.

Roddy Piper vs Jeff goldblum

Book it

That gun was so big the hadle didnt eve fit in his hands. All he could hold was the stock.

Nedreys gun was way better.

see Thed's quote in my signature

Malcolm's gun fit in his hands and stayed though. There were no balance issues. That always suprised me.
His backpack was way better than anyone elses because whatever it contained was a glowing green substance, and that is awesome.

Nedry's removable arms were great

How does Nedry get a figure and not Mr. Arnold? I call racism.

And if Nedry and Malcolm can get armed to the teeth, there is no reason why Hammond and Gennaro shouldn't be kicking some ass too.

IAN FREEZE

I hope they bring out the sea as well this time, that Mosasaurus needs attention. Also, I don't remember the name of this particular dinosaur but it was in Jurassic Park: The Lost World (The book) and was about 10-12 feet high with camouflage ability in the night. It was mentioned that the night belonged to this particular animal and it also roamed in packs, albeit only 3-5 if I remember.

I'm pretty sure you mean the Carnotaurus. I haven't read the book, but it's the closest to your description.

On the idea of there being more aquatic animals involved, I like it. But in the sense of a movie I'm not sure how well it would play out. To me one of the major elements for this series has been people running as fast as they can from things that want to eat them. Can you imagine that happening on a boat? It would no thought be a dramatic sequence, if it is done correctly.

The question is where they would be located. If they were in the waters off the island, they'd be able to swim the entire ocean and that wouldn't make much sense.
They'd have to be contained to the area of the Island somehow. There could be lakes, rivers, and inlets on the island but that would make them freshwater.
Maybe there could be a cove with a massive steel screen that extended down into the water and to the sea floor.

Like something similar to the setup in Deep Blue Sea? Yeah, that could work. It's certainly an obvious choice of circumstances.

I can just imagine it... There was a third island!

With the cove it would be like an inlet, with all ocean and rocks. 3 sides would be natural geographic barriers, like cliffs and land, and the steel wall would hold the creatures in.
Based on some island coves I've seen, it could be pretty big. Not too big though, since you want to increase the danger.

assorted coves before construction of enclosing cage wall and surrounding facilities:

http://www.visitusa.com/california/i...ngton-cove.jpg

http://www.darwinsgalapagos.com/gallery/Tagus-Cove.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neil.ca...worth-cove.jpg

Damn that would be awesome!

The Carnotaurus was the one I referred to earlier, its something different than the regular T-Rex or Velociraptors.

Velociraptors need to be brought back as the bad ass, cereal, killing machines that they are. Fuck science. Actually I would love to see a spin off B rate horror movie made just for those lovable man eaters.

Would love to see some sea dinos as well. After a quick google search this guy looks like the most promising. Wouldn't be too big to sustain in a cove, but pretty fucking big and scary enough for hollywood.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...us_hunt1DB.jpg

Kronosaurus (10 m / 33 ft)
Head 2.5 m / 8 ft long; larger and heavier than most land-based predators of the Cretaceous Period

Hasn't there been a movie made with that sea dino in it?

There's more than likely been several films centered around either that beast or similar creatures, but I think they mostly pertained to straight-to-dvd or SciFi channel movies.

I for one wouldn't mind seeing a sequence where the characters are being chased by a Rex along a beach, only to have that thing come on land (I know that particular dino is aquatic, but their were amphibious ones as well) which would result in the two fighting it out.

Didn't really enjoy that scene in JPIII where that Rex gets taken out by a Spinosaur. I understand they had to build up how dangerous this new dinosaur was, but it just didn't seem that believable to me.

The reason why you don't do sea attacks is becuase it was all ready done and done really well in Jaws.

Of course, but it would be one sequence of a Dinosaur movie, and not the entire focus.
I agree that just about any attempt at making a shark or sea creature movie is pointless because of Jaws, but I don't think that should apply to minor sequences.
There were water attacks in JP3 anyways, since they made the Spinosaurus amphibian.

Fuck the idea of cutting a certain approach just because of a broad stroke like "Jaws was about a shark". So we can't another sea creature movie again? C'mon. There's direction, story, characters, tone... All sorts of ways you can present a deadly sea creature terrorizing people differently.

They're all too derivative of Jaws. It's a cultural thing. When they try to be too much like Jaws, people say it sucks because it's not Jaws and never will be. When it's different, they say "it was better in Jaws."
Filmakers have every right to try but it's been 35 years this summer, and nothing has even come close.
It's also a case of material. Sea creature terror isn't exactly a rich genre of storytelling. It's a pretty primal thing. There's only so much you can do with it.
I would argue that the focus should be on telling a real story, and if it happens to be set in that environment then so be it.
If you're setting out to tell a sea creature horror story, you're setting out to make Jaws in the first place. All of those elements you listed are completely irrelevant if the goal is as shallow as that.
In the case of all of the movies that have come along on the subject since Jaws, it has been.

Moby Dick and Jaws aren't even about sea creature terror anyways. That's what people don't understand.
In the case of Jaws it's something that was done perfectly within the movie, and set the standard, but that's not what made it work.

Fuck it, I don't care what they do. I just want it to be awesome.

Where the fuck is Meg? I want that book to be filmed, dammit.

Nice to see you, Kalyx.

Thanks.

Pleasure is all of ours.

The pleasure is always all Jean Kalyx's

Agreed, my sarcasm must have gone unnoticed.