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NeanderCarl 06-23-2010 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3129830)
Because they were doing so in violation of the law. Are you fucking retarded?

That's it. That's all there is. The reason courts had to rule wasn't that this was some strange, unprecedented grounds but because WWE continued to operate in violation of the law.

If I use Hulk Hogan's name, or John Cena's name to imply their support of my promotion, I'm violating the law even before the court orders me to stop. I'm also violating the law even if I manage to fly below the radar.

As such, I have to reiterate:

Are you fucking retarded?

No I am most certainly not "fucking retarded". Don't patronise me. Just because I struggle to empathise with your evident loose grasp of my argument doesn't make me retarded. Au contraire.

My whole point was that WWE has only "operated in violation of the law" if they have broken a legally binding agreement to waive their right to use Owen's footage. If they haven't made any such agreement, they own that material. It is stipulated in a WWE talent contract.

Yes, they were in violation of an agreement made with the World Wildlife Fund for Nature as pertains to use of the initials WWF. As a result, they were forced to eliminate the use of the letters and change their existing footage.

A completely seperate situation with its own completely seperate legalities and WWE were made to pay for their violations.

As far as any of us know, this may or may not be the case with Owen. As I said, if they broke the law then they should - and will - be held accountable. But they will only have done so IF they made a legally binding agreement not to show, promote or market Owen Hart related material.

NeanderCarl 06-23-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nrt4 (Post 3130290)
Do WWE wrestlers get any $$ from there DVD set sales anyways?

Yes they receive royalties for all commercial materials on which they appear, which they continue to receive long after their tenures with the company.

NeanderCarl 06-23-2010 06:39 PM

By the way Kane Knight, I do not speak from the perspective of "fan entitlement" or "what I want" - again, patronising me - as I am not some mindless mark, for WWE or Owen Hart.

I did study law however, including copyright law... fuck I was even involved in a copyright/defamation situation myself several years ago... so I'm not thoroughly unfamiliar. UK law differs from US law, granted, but nothing changes the fact of what is stipulated within the talent contract Owen Hart originally signed; be he dead or alive, or whether Kane Knight morally, legally, personally agrees with it or not.

nrt4 06-23-2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl (Post 3130421)
Yes they receive royalties for all commercial materials on which they appear, which they continue to receive long after their tenures with the company.

So, Martha is suing WWE for basically helping bring in income as a widow? I mean thats what it sounded like in that Linda McMahon interview

NeanderCarl 06-23-2010 06:47 PM

Well that isn't why she is suing but you could look at it that way. The family will have received royalties from the Hart & Soul DVD.

nrt4 06-23-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NeanderCarl (Post 3130438)
Well that isn't why she is suing but you could look at it that way. The family will have received royalties from the Hart & Soul DVD.

And I'm sure Martha probably uses some of this royalties for The Owen Hart Foundation.

NeanderCarl 06-23-2010 07:12 PM

Maybe she's using his royalties to fund the lawsuit! How delicious.

Nark Order 06-23-2010 07:16 PM

I think Martha Hart just likes sueing people.

James Steele 06-23-2010 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3128033)
I can't wait for Kane Knight to come in here and call us a bunch of butthurt entitled wrestling fans.


Krimzon7 06-23-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3127885)
Holy shit, she got $19,000,000 and a book taken out of print? What the hell was in that book that was so slanderous and libelous?

:eek:

MOTHER FUCKER!!!

MrSpikeLee 06-25-2010 06:40 PM

Martha Hart killed Owen Hart..

Look who's gained the most... she has.

Jonathan KoЯn 06-25-2010 07:11 PM

Interesting theory MrSpikeLee. I'll have to give that more thought


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