Jesus. 6 episodes and then nearly a year long wait? That's pretty shit. Hopefully that doesn't happen between 2 and 3, and so forth.

Season 2 is already confirmed to be 13 episodes.

13 is still short. That means it's more like half a season. A full season is about 22 episodes.

Holy fuck. Seriously? We have to wait about 10 in a half months for season 2?

godfuckingdamnit.

It's a ridiculously long wait after only 6 episodes.

A year 'between' seasons is normal when there are 22 episodes in a season, so the show could end in May and resume in September. I guess with it getting a start late in the season, etc. there has to be a gap for the holidays and whatnot, but don't understand why it has to wait until October again - and then only 13 episodes.

I hope October is because due to filming and post-production- not for the October gimmick of being appropriate for Halloween.

Because if they could get it out on TV a few months earlier, it would be nice. Waiting for March and then October for new South Park sucks, this is x2 longer.

Fall is when shows tend to premiere.

Either way, that's a longer than usual wait.

loved when the "other sheriff" (still don't know the names) beat the shit out of that one guy.

With 30 minute shows, and on networks. It's pretty standard for cable to have 13 episode seasons.

You people need to stop watching network trash such a Lost and whatever else is on. 6 episodes for a first season is normal with cable. Especially with a show that probably was probably fairly expensive to film for a cable TV show.

Anything more than 6 episodes is trash

No, but the majority of programming on network television is.

Yeah, I hope they can maintain the high quality in season 2 and don't "run into budget problems".

Also, I wonder what the show is gonna do when Rick's kid starts to grow like mad through the off-season, but is still supposed to be the same on the show.

This is true. But I resent Lost being used as the example

Most here would. But I couldn't stand Lost.

Fair enough. Nothing about Lost is really what you would consider a product of network television though. The content and direction holds no punches. It's totally out there, and doesn't make any bones about being it's own thing.
It's pretty complex at points, and it's got it's share of science fiction and non-linear storytelling. It was never watered down for network TV, and abc sort of just let them run with it. It was never the highest rated show or anything.
So I wouldn't lump it in with typical network crap. If anything, it was more similar to a cable/hbo show. It did have a few romantic story-lines, but they were never dominant. It was really just there, which even the most esteemed cable shows seem to require.

Lost was really expensive to film, and the seasons were all written in advance. People can debate whether the show was pre-planned to certain degrees, but the seasons definitely were written out at once.
So as far as budget and production goes, it's similar to any major cable show or mini-series. Actually, being on network TV probably helped the show by allowing it to have a bigger budget to film on location, and have a bunch more episodes that didn't go to waste (spent on individual characters).

As you can tell, I'm in love with Lost.

Me not liking lost had nothing to do with the network it was on, and more to do with the writing and premise of the show.

Indeed. I wish there was a shorter season break though. I know 6 episodes is reasonable for a first season, but it's not unheard of to have the second season start earlier.

OMG @ this

holy shit

that's how you build towards a scene. took 4 episodes, but well worth it

:y:

Best thing on TV.

Damn, just got into this, amazing. Awesome at staging emotional scenes, which is not something I thought I'd ever say about a zombie show. But that scene in the first ep that cut between Morgan with the rifle and Rick putting down the legless zombie, that was some of the best TV I've ever seen.

Also Michael Rooker is stone cold fucking crazy and I love him for it.

I have a feeling that the camp intrusion was caused on purpose by Merle.

I'm guessing Merle is either gonna end up an unlikely hero, or Darryl will be forced to kill him. Possibly while he's still alive.

Merle clearly drove a truck full of zombies into camp

I don't trust that Jim guy. Almost certain that fucker had something to do with the zombies at the camp. Anybody else notice how he just casually walks away when it starts, takes out 1 zombie, and then casually walks back after all the walkers are dead?

That guy is whacked out of his mind. Him and Merle no doubt have something sinister planned or something.

I am however liking how they're gradually turning Merle's brother into less of a dick and a bit more of an antihero.

Lol @ Glen being a pizza boy.

Last thing, was anyone else waiting for the blonde chicks sister to turn and then sit up and bite her sisters face off?

Why are you guys so convinced someone "let" the zombies in to the camp?

Damn. Business has just picked up.

Just the way that so many zombies just so happened to appear undetected and all of a sudden when they hadn't had any problems prior to that incident. Granted there was the 1 in episode 3 that was eating the deer, but aside from him, there were no real indications there were zombies anywhere near them. Could've been let into the camp by someone, or they could've slowly creeped their way there when Glen's car alarm was going crazy, who knows, but at this point in time I'm calling foul play on that camp attack.

Was totally expecting a turn. I yelled "Get the fuck away, dumbass!!" at the tv like 8 times.

My guess is that Merle lead them back to the camp from the city to get a measure of revenge.

They set it up like it was so obviously going to happen, but I guess they don't turn that fast in this series. I mean the girl got bit on the arm and then the neck. She's laying there bleeding to death with her sister sitting on top of her, with her blood all over her hands crying, and I'm just sitting there thinking, "this stupid bitch is so fucked if/when her sister turns into a zombie."

I still say though that Jim is hiding something. I swear I hope they don't say his "dream" had something to do with this. The show is amazing as is and it doesn't need some whacked out idea screwing it up.

I thought Jim was digging everyones grave and would eventually snap and kill someone.

I thoroughly enjoyed watching Shane beat that guy's (earl?) ass on episode 3.

I think the zombie from episode 3 was the indicator that zombies were headed that way. For all Merle knew his brother was in the camp so I doubt he would lead the zombies to him.

Been watching (and loving the hell out of) this show. I didn't think I was going to like any of the new characters that weren't in the comic, but a lot of them have really grown on me (the crazy-ass rednecks in particular; Merle is just the most entertaining kind of scum).

Also, I was actually starting to feel bad for Shane until Lori's reveal in the third episode (not sure if we're keeping the thread spoiler-free). So yeah, fuck him.

Yeah they foreshadowed it with that. I think if Merle was looking for revenge he'd do it himself, rather than somehow leading the zombies there.

Yeah Lori definitely seemed like a straight up stone cold bitch till that reveal. But I'm not absolutely convinced Shane did it in malice. Could've just been bad information.

Or perhaps it was done in a "doing it to protect you, get you to move on and survive" kind of way.

I bet Merle's brother ends up being the one to put Merle down. Like Merle will try to shoot the black dude or someone and Merle will shoot him and save the guy.

You would have to assume that somebody in a coma in a hospital overrun with zombies has no chance of survival...that could have been his reasoning.

people turn at different rates in the book. it's not really covered why. one person turns instantly; another person doesn't turn for (at least) hours, possibly days - it's not really established, but it's at minimum 6 hours for the other person. so i don't think there's really a set time frame for how long it takes.

i know jeritron, "i can't go by the book". but whatever. this is the information i have.

i would agree with this if i didn't feel like the majority of the characters (with the obvious exceptions of daryl, merle, and t-dog [is it t-dog?]) were simply put in there

definitely came across that way with how much time they invested in some vs. others.

Why do you keep talking about the book?

Sry it seems like you are hating, but I don't know if you actually are.

I thought it was a comic, not a book?


Anyway, didn't they have cans and such stringed up around the camp as a warning for stray zombies. Someone (Merle) must have taken them down to let the zombies in.

Actually I haven't read them at all. The comic shop is always sold out.:o

Nope. No reason to.

I've wanted to read the books, but my comic guy can't keep them in stock so, I said the hell with it. It's become a fad at the shop he said so, I'll just wait it out to read them.

Yea, at the very end when they said "Darryl is going to be pissed." I think?

Lol ok CSL.

I think mitchables said that btw CSL.

i was replying to somebody who was talking about characters in the show that weren't in the book, in that particular case, so... that's why.

before that, it's because, y'know, the series is based on one of my favourite comic books ever. that is why. any adaptation is going to be compared to the original format, rightly or wrongly. i'm not saying i don't understand some of the changes they've made, but it doesn't mean i have to like them. and besides, my point from the post you quoted stands like hell - the people were really not there for any good reason other than to add to the body count come the camp invasion. big fucking deal.

fighting every urge in my body to lose my shit at you right now.

Seriously though, was it a comic or a book?

yes but apparently i am forbidden from discussing the books because series that are based on other media should not be held remotely in comparative esteem, especially when said series are advertised as being "based on" the other media. MY MISTAKE.

the two are not mutually exclusive. comics are a type of book. you don't look at an aquarium and go, "oh, is that a snapper or a fish?"

It's more or less a graphic novel I believe. Kind of like Sin City.

Never really think of comics as a book, think of them to be comics. Funny how that works!

it's an ongoing comic book series.

thus, it is three things, really:

1. individual issues of a comic book released on a monthly schedule.
2. collected editions of 5-6 issues as trade paperbacks, which are single books, and probably the closest format to being considered a "graphic novel".
3. hardcover collections which collect 4-5 tpbs in one.

I quite like the fact that its different from the comic anyway, otherwise all you guys who have read it would've spoiled the whole thing by now.

i would be no more driven to spoil it if it followed the book to the letter than as it follows it relatively closely with dramatic license taken for tv.

Don't you think its more creative(and interesting) to not write something that's already been written???

yeah i don't think anywhere in this thread did i say that i don't understand why they've changed stuff. kirkman is not a fantastic dialogue writer sometimes, and he definitely didn't spend time developing the characters early on. you have to do that for tv. i understand that. that doesn't mean that for crucial plot points and moments that are important in the book should be discarded outright or mangled out of recognition.

Fair enough. I'm just looking forward to episode 4 anyway after a shite episode, seemed like nothing happened in episode 3.

oh to clarify for newstead, i am not actually hating. i really have enjoyed the four episodes to date. have nothing but high hopes for the series, and it's delivered so far. that doesn't mean i am not allowed to question certain creative choices, knowing where the series is supposed to go but not necessarily where it will.

I wasn't being a dick, I want to read it, if it's a book (novel) I'm not going to find it in the horror section at Dimocks am I?

Mitch calm down. Just enjoy it ;)

you'd probably find it in the graphic novels section at borders. not sure if dymocks carry it. borders definitely do though.

but yes, you can find it at (some) bookstores, although those will only be trade paperbacks (which is what you'd want anyway).

moreover, you could just torrent it ;)

I don't think we have Boarders here - but torrents will do. :y:

grab yourself a comics viewer like cdisplay. i know there's a torrent on demonoid that has issues 1-66 in one go*, and then you should be able to find the individual issues after that pretty easily. might even have expanded the original one.


*for people like fignuts who will judge me if i don't say this, i also buy tpbs of everything i download.

I found a torrent of the first 78 issues. 1600+ pages. Read about 400 so far. Leagues different from the show, both in tone and storyline. So far, anyways.

I don't buy anything I download - that's the point :D

Why do we think merle was in on it?

Well, they show him steal a large truck and mention that he will want revenge. Then they RUN to camp and find it under attack. merle in a truck would get back much faster than them. Its all assumption, but just an idea that does make sense.

Technically, they never showed him stealing the truck.

yeah it's true, really it was just an assumption on rick/glenn/daryl/t-dog's part to say merle stole the truck. there's a good likelihood of it, obviously, but i wouldn't say it's in the bank just yet.

Sort of a boring episode this week.

Now that I've read the series, I have no patience for any of the characters created for the show :'(

now we understand each other.

I haven't read the books, but since the beginning I don't understand how those 2 sisters fit in. I'm happy the one is dead now, but like fuck, could they have found 2 worse actresses? I plainly just don't understand their purpose, other than god fucking awful scenes that don't fit in with the rest of the show.

Were they in the books?

yeah, andrea features heavily in the books. amy dies the exact same way in the book pretty much, except she has andrea's character model when she was drawn by tony moore originally (or does andrea have amy's character model when adlard took over? :$ whatever) but yeah, andrea is one of the main characters.

I thought it was one of the top 2 episodes. I never read the comics though

Surprised not even one mention of Merle this week. You'd think it would have been an issue with Daryl on whether to leave or not.

Daryl mentioned it a few times.

He mentioned it in a "you left him, and now you got attacked. KARMA, BITCH!" kinda way, but not when they were all talking about leaving.

Also, I really thought Jim was on track to be one of the main characters. I guess not. I have a feeling we'll see Zombie Jim sometime later on in the series though.

His lost brother aside I would think that his own survival would be his #1 priority.

Zombie Jim will know where they are going.

:(

Hey Mitchables, maybe you can answer this for me since you've read the comics. What is the name of the Japanese girl in the series that kills the zombies with a katana sword and drags some of the zombies around with chains like pets? I heard they were going to add her into season 2, but I'd like to do some research about the character first.

might be getting your comics mixed up there. there is a character called michonne who does exactly what you described, but she looks like this:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...x-Issue_19.jpg

she is, however, one of the single most bad-ass characters in the entire book, so i can't wait for her to come along. also look up a character called abraham and understand why i was so confused/disappointed by the addition of the dixon brothers.

you might have thought she was japanese though because of this lady, toyota, from y: the last man:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/y-...t-man/31-1.jpg

who is a japanese assassin with a katana blade that winds up getting fucked up by someone who looks a lot like michonne, agent 355:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:D...ent355.png&t=1

comics be crazy.

How do you mean? Don't really see any parallels between the Dixons and Abraham, other than Abe being a bit of a redneck.